Heroica RPG General Discussion

[Sandy]

How would it work? Would you simply send/post the enemy's stats once the party arrives at a location and then let the co-host run the battle itself, so that they wouldn't have any advantage if their character was to go to the Fields later? Or would it make them ineligible for going at all?

I would share all the enemy statistics with the co-host. Whatever "advantage" they would get from seeing the stats would be their reward for helping me out. So yeah, the co-host's character could enter the Fields, but not when the co-host is hosting.

And would there be more Fields of Glory topics?

No, it would all happen in the same topic. Only one party could still enter at a time.

[Zepher]

If I was better on the number crunching side of battles, I'd totally help out, Sandy. Maybe one day, further down the road.

My enemies often have SP, just not a lot of it.

Considering that the way they raise WP would appear to be by sharpening something, I don't think they would work on shields. But if they do, I need you to buy some for me. Say, I don't know... thirty five?

My enemies now also have SP... something I learned to include while hosting 30, and getting to have enemies cross over from BD's quest, actually. BD's enemies are tougher because they have SP, which literally helps their health so much, and adds an extra element of strategy. If the enemies have 3 SP, and are hit 13 rounds in a row, that's like them having an extra 39 health. That's pretty important.

And, as the original creator of the grating stone, I'd like to say a) I'm happy they're back in two quests right now and b) they were not intended to raise WP, but I guess it's up to the new QMs using them!

Damn, I missed the option of Cronk healing Jorke. Now the battle suddenly became way too easy

If your players aren't conspiring against you, they're not really playing the game.

[Masked Builder]

ATTENTION TO ALL VETERAN PLAYERS!

I'm looking for 1-2 co-hosts for the Unlimited Quest. Lately this game has just taken too much of my time, as much as I love it. I would love to be able to do something else with my ever-growing LEGO collection as well, but the quests take up all my creative juices, and nowadays the battles are getting more and more complex to run.

As a co-host for the Fields of Glory, you would take one party under your wing at a time, and run the battles for them. I have all the enemies and locations already done, so you couldn't affect them much, but I hope you won't mind that...

If you're interested in this position, please PM me explaining why you would be the best guy or gal for this task. If any of you have further questions about this, please ask them here in public so everyone can see the answers.

Thank you for your help in advance!

I'd actually been seriously considering doing this a few weeks ago.

If your players aren't conspiring against you, they're not really playing the game.

This.

[Zepher]

Haldor to the rescue! Best end of a boss fight EVER.

[CMP]

Haldor Super Haldor to the rescue! Best end of a boss fight EVER.

My thoughts exactly. Reminded me of Scooby Doo for some reason.

[Palathadric]

But if they do, I need you to buy some for me. Say, I don't know... thirty five?

There's only two available, but if you give me 5000 gold for it, I'm sure I could work it out.

My enemies now also have SP... something I learned to include while hosting 30, and getting to have enemies cross over from BD's quest, actually. BD's enemies are tougher because they have SP, which literally helps their health so much, and adds an extra element of strategy. If the enemies have 3 SP, and are hit 13 rounds in a row, that's like them having an extra 39 health. That's pretty important.

And, as the original creator of the grating stone, I'd like to say a) I'm happy they're back in two quests right now and b) they were not intended to raise WP, but I guess it's up to the new QMs using them!

Alternatively, you could just give the enemies the 40 extra health. Of course, I know, it's not the same, but still...

If I may ask, since I must have forgotten, what did you create the grating stone for?

[Zepher]

What's your complaint against SP? Just for curiosities sake, so I know why people like it/dislike it.

And they were sold in Quest 19, I believe. Or were in the factory where people had weapons? They're a fun drop. They're useful to people who want to upgrade their current weapon and don't want a bunch of new ones dropped. They also are more valuable to people with higher WPs, so younger heroes can buy them and sell them for a profit to heroes with high WP, who also still save gold. I'm happy they're back, I was actually going to use them in 53 anyway because I like them.

Quest 55, OoC makes quests very hard to read and enjoy sometimes. Here's a fantastically worded reason why you can stop justifying your characters. I was just going to copy one line of it, but it's all applicable, so I kept it all:

One thing I want to add (great post, WBD), is that you should never have to apologize for something your character does, really. It's all in character, and we KNOW it's in character. It's fine. That line is blurred when you play a greedy character that takes all the loot for themselves, but still, that can be worked out most often in the premise of the game (very easy to punish that player, you know, don't heal them or something!). Of course it's possible you will be actually annoyed by someone or something done by a character. After all, we are playing this game for a fairly long period of time with a lot of different people, of course there are going to be clashes. If you feel that way, or you suspect someone feels that way about you, it's best to pm that person, and ask if something is up or not. Most of the time, it will be a misunderstanding.

Just play the game, don't apologize for or clarify your character's actions. We know some characters clash, and that doesn't mean the people do.

Edited December 17, 2012 by Zepher

[-obelix-]

Quest 55, OoC makes quests very hard to read and enjoy sometimes. Just play the game, don't apologize for or clarify your character's actions. We know some characters clash, and that doesn't mean the people do.

This is actually a very good piece of advice. Duly noted!

Edited December 17, 2012 by -obelix-

[Palathadric]

No problem with SP per se, but it just seems like an unnecessary line in an enemies' description and just an additional way to drag out battles. I have nothing against it (please don't mistake my: ), but more just wondering...why bother? I guess it adds a bit of challenge somehow.

[Endgame]

No problem with SP per se, but it just seems like an unnecessary line in an enemies' description and just an additional way to drag out battles. I have nothing against it (please don't mistake my: ), but more just wondering...why bother? I guess it adds a bit of challenge somehow.

I use it as another layer of strategy more then just giving more HP could. For example, do I attack the enemy with high SP and low level for little risk and damage output, or the guy with low SP and high level for higher risk and higher damage output?

[Palathadric]

I suppose so. They are different. I guess as an outside observer, it's always more tiresome to read quests with lengthy battles and huge enemy descriptions, but for those actually participating it is quite a challenge and part of the fun.

I somehow have the feeling that whenever I host a quest my battles are going to get out of hand and become more confusing then anything else. Will have to watch out for that.

Again I'll say that I find it amusing how the enemies in some of the battles in the old days were astoundingly weak.

Power: 2

HP: 15/15

Six heroes have to take this monster down.

[Brickdoctor]

And the effect of SP on a battle depends on how many times the enemy is attacked, so it isn't as definite a measure of how much it takes to defeat an enemy as HP is. The effectiveness of SP depends on how efficiently the enemy can be killed.

[PsyKater]

Quest 55, OoC makes quests very hard to read and enjoy sometimes. Here's a fantastically worded reason why you can stop justifying your characters. I was just going to copy one line of it, but it's all applicable, so I kept it all:

Just play the game, don't apologize for or clarify your character's actions. We know some characters clash, and that doesn't mean the people do.

Thanks!

It's difficult sometimes as my character and I want different things. I really want to read this letter. :P

Capt.JohnPaul: I think obelix voted for taking the letter.

[JimBee]

After some time I've realized that SP, no matter how high, is in no way overpowered as I originally thought it was. Jeb, Sandy and some others have done a great job getting around it. Not that that should be the main focus of battles, but it's good to have alternatives to just having super strong enemies that would be too tough for the other players with little or no SP. So I definitely would agree that the grating stone could be used for SP.

Just a few questions for the FoG QM positions.

- Would the QMs get to pick their own parties out of the ones that applied?

- If no parties sign up together (like they have in the past), do you just pick as many as possible (six)?

- Will you balance the enemies for us (putting more or less enemies depending on party size) or will that be up to us?

- Finally, just a general comment, I do hope you have 2 QMs, or else the one will not be able to participate in the FoG at all!

[Brickdoctor]

There's only two available, but if you give me 5000 gold for it, I'm sure I could work it out.

That'd still save me over 6550 Gold, so if you can get your hands on thirty five Grating Stones, I'd be happy to pay you 5000 Gold for them over the course of a few years.

[Masked Builder]

So, Zeph, when is 53 leaving?

[CorneliusMurdock]

So that's why we brought Haldor along. Absolutely hilarious, Etzel!

[Zepher]

So, Zeph, when is 53 leaving?

Fingers still crossed for the 21st, but if I have to move it a day or two for you three and Dyric, that's fine with me. I just need to hold some of it in the month that I'm home for reasons that will become apparent in the quest.

[Etzel]

The 49'ers will be back in the Hall by tomorrow, so unless Zepher stops the sign ups early in the day it shouldn't be a problem.

[Scorpiox]

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So that's why we brought Haldor along. Absolutely hilarious, Etzel!

The true irony to Haldor saving the day here, is that it is probably the only useful thing he has done all quest.

[Flipz]

The 49'ers will be back in the Hall by tomorrow, so unless Zepher stops the sign ups early in the day it shouldn't be a problem.

Why is an American football team visiting Heroica?

[Sandy]

Sorry, I haven't been able to update the quests because of the downtime of the forums. Now it's too late for today, so they will continue tomorrow.

I have the week after Christmas off, so I can spend a lot of time on this game then. Before that, I'm afraid I'm too busy for anything extra.

Just a few questions for the FoG QM positions.

- Would the QMs get to pick their own parties out of the ones that applied?

- If no parties sign up together (like they have in the past), do you just pick as many as possible (six)?

- Will you balance the enemies for us (putting more or less enemies depending on party size) or will that be up to us?

- Finally, just a general comment, I do hope you have 2 QMs, or else the one will not be able to participate in the FoG at all!

- Yes, the QM would get to pick their own parties.

- It's up to the QM to choose from 3 to 6 participants, no more, no less.

- The QM would do their own balancing for the party they direct. I will only provide the list of enemies and their appearance in each location.

- I won't give up hosting Fields of Glory completely, I would just alternate with the helper(s) I choose.

[Zepher]

"I know a friend who bought mythril..."

I found a hole in Monk Pretzel's story.

No problem with SP per se, but it just seems like an unnecessary line in an enemies' description and just an additional way to drag out battles. I have nothing against it (please don't mistake my: ), but more just wondering...why bother? I guess it adds a bit of challenge somehow.

I agree with you, actually, quick battles are more fun. I've written about it in the QM Lounge before. SP, however, can be a part of that. The increase in SP piercing artifacts makes SP more useful on an enemy, and also limits who attacks what more severely. Higher level heroes are more obligated to attack enemies with high SP, because they're more likely to actually do significant damage.

Edited December 19, 2012 by Zepher

[Palathadric]

That'd still save me over 6550 Gold, so if you can get your hands on thirty five Grating Stones, I'd be happy to pay you 5000 Gold for them over the course of a few years.

No, I need the money now. But I shouldn't have bothered asking you. With that kind of money you could buy up Guts and he could give you the full amount after just one quest.

I found a hole in Monk Pretzel's story.

Well, he couldn't very well say, "I read about a hero in one quest in a faraway land..." How believable is that?

Please, don't ask how believable the first one is though.

[CorneliusMurdock]

Would there be any rule against selling the rusty sword to Anwyl at regular selling price even though it breaks after 3 hits?