CorneliusMurdock Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 Holy Crap. If we revive Mallelio, he can revive someone else with his essence. Quote
Waterbrick Down Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 If I revive anyone, it will be Alexis since she is hastened. She can take two shots at Wren to make up for Hoke's attack. Actually reviving Alexis would work, technically we could revive almost everyone PC wise this turn and have everything still be managable. The only one I think we'd lose this turn is Nyx, but she could easily be revived next round (if there is one) it would be sad to see the NPC's go though. Quote
UsernameMDM Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 (edited) I really don't care about the NPCs unless they can help the party. PCs get loot and XP and actually play this game. Plus, as we have seen in this quest, NPCs can be killed out of battle at a drop of the hat. Edited March 23, 2013 by UsernameMDM Quote
Flipz Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 (edited) I really don't care about the NPCs unless they can help the party. PCs get loot and XP and actually play this game. Plus, as we have seen in this quest, NPCs can be killed out of battle at a drop of the hat. I've tried, really tried to care about the NPCs on 53, but I'm just so, so sick of babysitting them. I'll have more (much more!) to say about them in the post-Quest analysis, but suffice to say in this Quest they've shown us their worst traits (their mechanical ones) while hiding/neglecting most of their best ones (their personalities). If we save one, I'd say save Phil, since his death would just screw up everything we fought for in Dastan; otherwise, they can all go perform an anatomically infeasible act as far as I'm concerned. PCs...actually play this game. Not singling anyone out but...no, not really. I mean, some of them do, but there are a huge chunk who contribute about as much to Heroica as Phil and Mallelio have to Quest 53. technically we could revive almost everyone PC wise this turn and have everything still be managable. I'm lost, care to explain to me exactly how we would go about this? Edited March 23, 2013 by Flipz Quote
Brickdoctor Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 Save Phil! I need to go on another quest with him. Quote
Flipz Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 EDIT: Actually, to be fair, there have been a great number of interesting characters on 53...they're all either dead or fled. The ones who are SUPPOSED to be relatable...just aren't. It's frustrating, especially for a roleplayer like me. Also, Poletad. Poletad is an even higher priority for revival than Phil; he's the only allied NPC I still like. Save Phil! I need to go on another quest with him. You should have come along to help us, then. Wren is, after all, balanced for a 1-on-1 fight with you. Quote
CMP Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 I really should stop signing up Atramor for Zepher Quests. He's like, an omen for allied NPCs. Constance, U'Stus, Triad, Mallelio, Hans, Felton, Poletad, Gnash, Phil....maybe Thothwick has the right idea after all. Quote
UsernameMDM Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 (edited) Not singling anyone out but...no, not really. I mean, some of them do, but there are a huge chunk who contribute about as much to Heroica as Phil and Mallelio have to Quest 53. But NPCs can't sign up for or host quests. Plus, like I said before, NPCs can die at the QM's whim. The only NPC I have any interest in is Vipera, but she doesn't need any help. Edited March 23, 2013 by UsernameMDM Quote
CorneliusMurdock Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 I wish we could save Poletad and Felton. Maybe Gnash, too. We hardly know him but what little we do know of him, he sounds like a decent guy. Hans has held his own this quest, so I hate to see him go, but I'm not really attached to his character like Felton. Quote
Zepher Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 (edited) The Jiin should not have lost that much health, since it wasn't summoned until AFTER Atters rolled Special murder party Damage. Thank you! EDIT: Actually, to be fair, there have been a great number of interesting characters on 53...they're all either dead or fled. The ones who are SUPPOSED to be relatable...just aren't. It's frustrating, especially for a roleplayer like me. Also, Poletad. Poletad is an even higher priority for revival than Phil; he's the only allied NPC I still like. It's interesting. I'm sure a lot of other players and the NPCs would probably say that about Arthur. I wish we could save Poletad and Felton. Maybe Gnash, too. We hardly know him but what little we do know of him, he sounds like a decent guy. Hans has held his own this quest, so I hate to see him go, but I'm not really attached to his character like Felton. Hans is just an average guy. He is decent. Edited March 23, 2013 by Zepher Quote
The Legonater Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 I'll be saddened if we can't save Felton, Hans and McColt - both as a PC, and as Dyric. Such is life, I guess. Quote
Waterbrick Down Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 I'm lost, care to explain to me exactly how we would go about this? If the stats are correct, we have 5 Phoenix Essences available to us currently (4 can be used this round, or alternatively we can revive Mallelio and have 1 more available to us) there are currently 4 PC heroes knocked out, thus we should be able to revive everyone this turn. Currently there are 6 essences in the party collectively, thus only 2 of the NPC's could be revived if we are putting PC at the top of the priority list (unfortunately Mallelio would have to be one of them). Take into account we do have Vipera, so she might bring someone back as well. Why didn't we bring any druids on this quest. Quote
Flipz Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 If the stats are correct, we have 5 Phoenix Essences available to us currently (4 can be used this round, or alternatively we can revive Mallelio and have 1 more available to us) there are currently 4 PC heroes knocked out, thus we should be able to revive everyone this turn. Currently there are 6 essences in the party collectively, thus only 2 of the NPC's could be revived if we are putting PC at the top of the priority list (unfortunately Mallelio would have to be one of them). Take into account we do have Vipera, so she might bring someone back as well. Why didn't we bring any druids on this quest. In that case, we should try to not finish off Wren too soon. Hmm...if Cronk or Haldor use some of their weaker weapons, they can heal Wren to avoid damage and specials, giving Vipera time to raise a few NPCs. Sounds like a plan to me! Quote
Waterbrick Down Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 In that case, we should try to not finish off Wren too soon. Hmm...if Cronk or Haldor use some of their weaker weapons, they can heal Wren to avoid damage and specials, giving Vipera time to raise a few NPCs. Sounds like a plan to me! Careful, it's like playing with fire remember. As much as we hate it, now might be our best chance. If we don't start dealing with the summoned chaos beasts we're soon going to be outnumbered and we won't be able to do anything then. Quote
Flare Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 You better take out Wren before she does another swap something always goes wrong there, it has seemed to me... Quote
Flipz Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 Careful, it's like playing with fire remember. As much as we hate it, now might be our best chance. If we don't start dealing with the summoned chaos beasts we're soon going to be outnumbered and we won't be able to do anything then. If the damn things weren't all "Immune to Effects", we'd have half a shot... We should at least make sure we give ourselves ONE extra Round. Poletad needs to be a priority, at the very least. Quote
Sandy Posted March 23, 2013 Author Posted March 23, 2013 Speaking of witch, is Elphaba going to be showing up soon, Sandy? Thanks for the reminder. I am almost certain that Sandy has not stated anywhere that magic can only be used outside battle to overcome obstacles. Who am I to prevent anyone's creative juices from flowing? It's really up to the QM if s/he wants to allow magic-use in the specific situation. The only thing I'm opposed to is trying to get rid of enemies with magic outside of battle mode - because that would make battles futile to begin with. Quote
Palathadric Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 I don't want another #42 on my hands Now, why would you say that? Quote
Dannylonglegs Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 Hey, sorry 62ers, I'll update you in maybe 15 minutes. I've had a busy morning. ~Insectoid Aristocrat Quote
Flare Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 Why is it so quiet in the hall... Because no one is there! Everyone is gone on quests You should have a large influx of heroes returning soon, with #48 and #53 finishing soon (it seems...) Quote
The Legonater Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 For the record, if Dyric were conscious right now he'd note that Arthur seemed to come to his senses after Wren knocked him out. Speaking of which, if Arthur dies this battle, does that mean redemption equals death? Quote
Scubacarrot Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 For the record, if Dyric were conscious right now he'd note that Arthur seemed to come to his senses after Wren knocked him out. Speaking of which, if Arthur dies this battle, does that mean redemption equals death? Did he do something heroic though? That is required for the trope to work. If he didn't do anything Heroic/redeeming, it would be more of a Heel Face Door Slam. Quote
UsernameMDM Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 Did he do something heroic though? That is required for the trope to work. If he didn't do anything Heroic/redeeming, it would be more of a Heel Face Door Slam. That's my vote! Quote
Scubacarrot Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 Speaking of tvtropes, the place where hours magically disappear. I would love to see a complete list of tropes for characters, not going to do it for Guts, way too much work, but would be pretty cool. Quote
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