Dannylonglegs Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 I will be greatly amused if we decimate every singe high-ranking officer in the Wolfgang at once. Ahaha! This'll be hysterical. ~Insectoid Aristocrat Quote
Brickdoctor Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 I get the feeling that you're supposed to kill all of the Wolfgang lieutenants, that Baba wants you to get rid of them so she will encounter no resistance within the faction in convincing Ulric to rule Eubric as her figurehead. At the least it seems to me that Baba wants you to kill them; she's not doing anything right now. (I think) Assuming that there isn't some other surprise that Baba is waiting to spring on you. "Only the Wolfgang are attacking. I wonder what Baba is waiting for." "You're in attack position now, Baba." "Hold here." "You're not going to attack?" "I have my orders from Ulric himself. He has something special planned for them. I only need to keep them from escaping." Quote
Endgame Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 She is brainwashing the crowd to accept Ulric as their king, currently. Don't see where the generals fall in, they're all pretty much willing to do whatever he says. Quote
Brickdoctor Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 I thought she was done with that. She stopped singing. Quote
Endgame Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 It put them in a trance - they're still hypnotized, despite the song stopping. Quote
Scorpiox Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 I'm killing them both. Just to make things clear: if the back-door party kill either Donny or Violeta, Haldor will come after and decapitate every last one of them (Giving the heads to Dyric to keep). Please don't kill the major plot characters before they're ready to die, it's annoying. Quote
Endgame Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 Hey, people die. Not everyone can tell their life story before they're slaughtered. Quote
The Legonater Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 Just to make things clear: if the back-door party kill either Donny or Violeta, Haldor will come after and decapitate every last one of them (Giving the heads to Dyric to keep). Please don't kill the major plot characters before they're ready to die, it's annoying. Yay heads! Quote
Scorpiox Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 Hey, people die. Not everyone can tell their life story before they're slaughtered. All I'm saying is this: if you kill them both now, it'll end up ranking high on Most Lame And Unsatisfying Deaths Of All Time. I really, really hope that you choose to spare them, they're far to interesting to die in such a boring way. And hey, they didn't even want to fight if you read their dialogue; they were only there to bring a message, and Sorrow took it to another level. Wonder how the group will cope with Donny and Violeta's blood on their hands... Quote
CMP Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 And hey, they didn't even want to fight if you read their dialogue; they were only there to bring a message, and Sorrow took it to another level. Wonder how the group will cope with Donny and Violeta's blood on their hands... Heartless undead assassin, destructive yeti berserker, Town Guard cadet trained to fight the Wolfgang. I imagine they'll be okay. Quote
Pyrovisionary Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 (edited) Hey, people die. Not everyone can tell their life story before they're slaughtered. B-b-b-but It's my job to mindlessly mess up plots! Edited May 19, 2013 by Skyrimguy Quote
Endgame Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 (edited) And hey, they didn't even want to fight if you read their dialogue; they were only there to bring a message, and Sorrow took it to another level. Wonder how the group will cope with Donny and Violeta's blood on their hands... Hey, we had to stop Steerpike - and Violetta and Donny are on the same boat as him. Sorrow isn't one to let criminals slip. Cope? He'll probably present his corpses to Patricia. Heartless undead assassin Heartless? You do realize he suffers Heart Attacks, right? Sorrow is a legitmately nice guy... but if you tick him off, run for it. Edited May 19, 2013 by Endgame Quote
Scubacarrot Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 If Donny and Violetta weren't ready to die, it wouldn't be possible for them to die. (of course, Donny was supposed to make an appearance in the continuation of Quest 40(planned Q3 2013 ), But it's easy enough to switch his position out for a slightly similair character and justify it for some reason (Mass Effect style)). Quote
TheBoyWonder Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 I really hope the party do not kill them, I feel they could add so much more, especially Donny. Quote
Scubacarrot Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 I think Baba showing up and siding with the Wolfgang is proving one thing: Things are about to change. (I'm talking in tropes now). Donny and Violetta's deaths help with that. Both sides will go at it harder if they die. The Town Watch with basically their first major victory, the Wolfgang for losing two (three?) of the lieutenants. Quote
Scorpiox Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 Hey, we had to stop Steerpike - and Violetta and Donny are on the same boat as him. Sorrow isn't one to let criminals slip. Cope? He'll probably present his corpses to Patricia. I'm finding it a bit difficult to understand the in-character motive. "You're all just brutal, pillaging thugs; so we're going to murder you instead of handing you over to Patricia". Taking them prisoner would be so much more awesome... Sorrow gets to snark, the leaders are humiliated and the party proves a point that they're better people. Quote
Scubacarrot Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 I know I am sometimes/often guilty of this as well, but please don't listen to people telling you how they want things to go. YOU have the option to influence the story of Heroica now. Do as you want! Taking them prisoner would be so much more awesome... Sorrow gets to snark, the leaders are humiliated and the party proves a point that they're better people. Oh please, you know they'd escape in minutes. Quote
Endgame Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 I'm finding it a bit difficult to understand the in-character motive. "You're all just brutal, pillaging thugs; so we're going to murder you instead of handing you over to Patricia". Taking them prisoner would be so much more awesome... Sorrow gets to snark, the leaders are humiliated and the party proves a point that they're better people. Sorrow had a bad habit of letting criminals slip at one point in time - he's still a generous enough person who likes to help others, but if you cross the line, he is going to go to the afterlife and back and deliver permanent justice. Quote
Tanma Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 (edited) Yeah, this is your moment, do it how you will. Personally I am just interested to see what they do. If they kill them, then the Wolfgag will permanently lose two of their generals. If they imprison them the Wolfgang ould free thm one day, and they would have more chances to corrupt the watch. On the other hnd if they capture the generals the watch might be able to interrogate them and learn new information about the Wolfgang. I don't think sparing the generals will prove any higher morals, since they just murdered a bunch of gang members. Ony difference between those guys and the generals is rank, so if you spare them it would be for politics or information, rather than a sense of mercy. Grunts are people too. Edited May 19, 2013 by Tanma Quote
Scorpiox Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 Oh please, you know they'd escape in minutes. Wouldn't bet on it. Not knowing that if either of them move for a second, Sorrow will hose them into the gutter with 8x ranged damage. I know that Sandy will justify it either way, so it's still all on Sorrow, Arthur and Nagure to do what they want. I'm still going to Bricklink those Donny pieces so I can make him, however. Head-taking thing still stangs, though. Grunts are people too. Anyone who's every played a video game/seen a film/read a book would disagree. Quote
Scubacarrot Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 Anyone who's every played a video game/seen a film/read a book would disagree. Oh? (Character is called Grunt, good character. Currently replaying ME...) Quote
Flipz Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 (edited) I just think it's pretty amazing that a psuedo-medieval character knows what any of those things are at all! I'm surprised he didn't gain an extra level of experience for that. (Hint: nails and lightning ) I know I am sometimes/often guilty of this as well, but please don't listen to people telling you how they want things to go. YOU have the option to influence the story of Heroica now. Do as you want! Will do. Also, because I'm too lazy to find your quote about Paper Mario, Endgame: does watching Chuggaaconroy's Let's Play count? (Is too poor busy buying LEGO to afford the game for the Wii Virtual Console ) Edited May 19, 2013 by Flipz Quote
JimBee Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 (Character is called Grunt, good character. Currently replaying ME...) Possibly one of the worst characters in that game, IMO. Right after Kelly Chambers... Wrex is a much better Krogan to have. (Currently playing ME3 for the first time, so no spoilers! ) I wonder how long Guts and Hybros will have to sail the seven seas before Guffy needs their help again? Yes I must nag. Quote
Flipz Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 Also, wow Sandy, what do you have against men?!? All of your gender-locked items and Artifacts have been for women only... Quote
Pyrovisionary Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 I don't think anyone except me here has quoted Terry Pratchett? Quote
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