Heroica RPG - Quest Masters' Lounge

[Endgame]

Considering that some swords have SP-denial built in, an artifact (and artifact slots are a luxury!) shouldn't be too OP.

[Dannylonglegs]

Even better--just use my "You want it? You fight it." mantra for cool items.

I tried to follow that mantra with Fleur, but it didn't quite work out the way I intended... (Luck for the necklace, counter-striking for the daggers, encouraged to be a threat+her minions=stupid-hard fight.)

I agree! Charge-up would be deliciously useful for Scroll-Clerics. Even more-so than for scroll-mages..

~Insectoid Aristocrat

Edited June 5, 2013 by Dannylonglegs

[Flipz]

Considering that some swords have SP-denial built in, an artifact (and artifact slots are a luxury!) shouldn't be too OP.

I disagree. Imagine Lifestealer or Conspirator with Piercing Blow equipped. Ouch. The thing with the few SP-piercing swords out there is 1.) they're rare, and 2.) they have to be upgraded separately from other weapons. With an Artifact, you can slap it on on top of powerful and/or Effect-dealing weapons, creating something of a nightmare for QMs. Yes, Artifact slots can be at a premium, but they aren't NEARLY as limiting as weapon-bound abilities--which is a GOOD thing for averting Power Creep.

[Flare]

If artifacts are OP, then perhaps making them take up two slots could be an option - or maybe that really wouldn't be fair, but an OP item isn't fair in any case.

[Flipz]

I tried to follow that mantra with Fleur, but it didn't quite work out the way I intended... (Luck for the necklace, counter-striking for the daggers, encouraged to be a threat+her minions=stupid-hard fight.)

Thus demonstrating why Effects on items are so easily OP. Players don't complain about being able to be Lucky all the time--the tables shift substantially when the enemy is Lucky. Similarly, the worse something is when on an enemy, the exponentially nastier it'll get if you put it on a player.

Edited June 5, 2013 by Flipz

[Brickdoctor]

I disagree. Imagine Lifestealer or Conspirator with Piercing Blow equipped. Ouch. The thing with the few SP-piercing swords out there is 1.) they're rare, and 2.) they have to be upgraded separately from other weapons. With an Artifact, you can slap it on on top of powerful and/or Effect-dealing weapons, creating something of a nightmare for QMs. Yes, Artifact slots can be at a premium, but they aren't NEARLY as limiting as weapon-bound abilities--which is a GOOD thing for averting Power Creep.

Yeah, an SP-piercing artifact works with all weapons, so you're free to switch them or sell them or pick up new ones depending on the circumstances. It's more powerful, just like the Quiver of Poisoning is more powerful than a permanently Poisoned weapon.

[Flare]

Yeah, an SP-piercing artifact works with all weapons, so you're free to switch them or sell them or pick up new ones depending on the circumstances. It's more powerful, just like the Quiver of Poisoning is more powerful than a permanently Poisoned weapon.

Poisoning is a lot less effective effect on most enemies than SP-defiance, mind you. On most enemies, poisoning does little to no effect, while depending on them enemy, SP piercing can be extremelu useful.

[Brickdoctor]

Poisoning is a lot less effective effect on most enemies than SP-defiance, mind you. On most enemies, poisoning does little to no effect, while depending on them enemy, SP piercing can be extremelu useful.

No, that's not my point; my point is that an artifact that grants an effect is more powerful than a weapon that grants the effect. Even if a Poisoning artifact doesn't make much of a difference, it's still more powerful than one weapon that's permanently poisoned.

[Flare]

No, that's not my point; my point is that an artifact that grants an effect is more powerful than a weapon that grants the effect. Even if a Poisoning artifact doesn't make much of a difference, it's still more powerful than one weapon that's permanently poisoned.

Oh, alright. True.

[Capt.JohnPaul]

Speaking of minifigs, I'm planning an epic quest. Here's a preview of some minifigs you'll encounter.

And:

[Palathadric]

I feel silly saying this, but I recognize very few of those faces. Awesome though!

[Pyrovisionary]

Cool figures Cpt!

Edited June 6, 2013 by Pyrovisionary

[Flare]

Neat! Where will this quest be taking place, Rome?

[Brickdoctor]

Well, if you compare features on the map of Olegaia to those of earth, the continent with the Abra Desert looks just like Africa, the continent with Dastan is the right shape and position of Europe, the High Kingdoms, Low Kingdoms, and Mistaria are somewhat shaped like North and South America, the Free Islands are in the Caribbean, and Värtland is Greenland. So that would put Rome just east of Charis, which fits with the fact that Charisian culture is based on that of France.

[Capt.JohnPaul]

Actually, I never planned it to be anywhere near Charis. The Western land of Fenario sounds very Italian to me. But it is a bit North.

Anyways, I also have a knew set built of an old city street. It has technic holes and pins so you can constantly add to it.

[Brickdoctor]

The Western land of Fenario sounds very Italian to me. But it is a bit North.

Isn't that where Nammyra's from? She doesn't look very Roman.

[Shoker86]

The gladiator's subquest would be awsome. Colloseum, heroes fight for factions. Fights to beat time, lion fights, recreations of historical quest fights

I love the roman outfits CJP

[Endgame]

Isn't the leader of the Croises Caesar...?

Where is Brutus when you need him?!

[Capt.JohnPaul]

Isn't that where Nammyra's from? She doesn't look very Roman.

A wizard did it.

The gladiator's subquest would be awsome. Colloseum, heroes fight for factions. Fights to beat time, lion fights, recreations of historical quest fights

I love the roman outfits CJP

Some of those will be added in there!

Isn't the leader of the Croises Caesar...?

Where is Brutus when you need him?!

Yes.... Don't spoil the other character!

[Pyrovisionary]

The gladiator's subquest would be awsome. Colloseum, heroes fight for factions. Fights to beat time, lion fights, recreations of historical quest fights

I love the roman outfits CJP

[Zepher]

Well, if you compare features on the map of Olegaia to those of earth, the continent with the Abra Desert looks just like Africa, the continent with Dastan is the right shape and position of Europe, the High Kingdoms, Low Kingdoms, and Mistaria are somewhat shaped like North and South America, the Free Islands are in the Caribbean, and Värtland is Greenland. So that would put Rome just east of Charis, which fits with the fact that Charisian culture is based on that of France.

I wouldn't say that's exactly how the cultures pan out, though. Mistaria is perhaps South American, but the Low and High Kingdoms are very obviously European, along with Charis. Dastan reminds me more than anything of a perversion of Russia culture. The Free Islands are also clearly European. The map doesn't really (and in my mind, shouldn't) exactly mimic the real world!

A wizard did it.

It doesn't seem very kind to simply throw out Quarryman's back story. He's already said that all he people of that land are similar to Nammyra. Saying that Nammyra only looks the way she does because a Wizard Did It doesn't seem particularly fair. Besides, Fenerio was added specifically because Quarryman asked it to be, and made it up.

[Brickdoctor]

I wouldn't say that's exactly how the cultures pan out, though. Mistaria is perhaps South American, but the Low and High Kingdoms are very obviously European, along with Charis. Dastan reminds me more than anything of a perversion of Russia culture. The Free Islands are also clearly European. The map doesn't really (and in my mind, shouldn't) exactly mimic the real world!

Of course, I didn't mean that the cultures should exactly match. I was just pointing out that looking at the shape of the continents, it looks like that's where Rome should be, if there was a Rome in this universe. (Which there shouldn't be.) The culture part was my realization when saying that Charis was close to Rome that Charis is around France, comparing the geography of those four central continents to earth.

[Flipz]

It doesn't seem very kind to simply throw out Quarryman's back story. He's already said that all he people of that land are similar to Nammyra. Saying that Nammyra only looks the way she does because a Wizard Did It doesn't seem particularly fair. Besides, Fenerio was added specifically because Quarryman asked it to be, and made it up.

Dastan reminds me more than anything of a perversion of Russia culture.

Interesting--I didn't get that vibe at all. To me, I got something of a combination between ancient Rome and "Manifest Destiny"-era Texas, with a side of colonial India thrown in for good measure.

[Zepher]

Then perhaps you don't know much about Russian culture. It's a pretty major perversion, I'll admit it, though there are some obvious nods. I can actually totally see Ancient Rome traits too, and absolutely Manifest Destiny, though that one less so. I'd still say that Russia was (my) strongest influence when developing the culture and architecture, though I don't have the most perfect understanding of their culture, and there were two other people who had a major say in it.

[Flare]

Fenarians live in Fenario - they look like Namyrra. No, they're not some sort of wizard's creation, they're a race