Dragonator Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 Dammit, not another townie. While we can thank the poisoner for getting Max, the other deaths really aren't helping us at all. I'm beginning to suspect this poisoner has to be a serial killer, the daily kills and almost random approach certainly suggest that. I too would like to hear from Ruxana before proceeding with a vote, although I have to agree that the evidence, if we can take Samuel's word, is certainly compelling. "I'm going to need a bigger canvas." Irene says. That canvas is empty!
Hinckley Posted August 24, 2011 Author Posted August 24, 2011 That canvas is empty! Mod note: Shut the megabluck up.
iamded Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 Gosh darnit! This poisoner just has to be a serial killer, right? No scum would kill their own godfather, unless the poisoner was also an usurper... And if it's a vigilante, well... do be more careful! Try to get the godfather again! Hmmm. The days got a lot quieter rather quickly, didn't they? Although I guess we've lost quite a lot of people. And we're still waiting to hear from Ruxana then. Righto.
RileyC Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 Sorry guys I haven't replied yet (busy day, only been able to read) I'm so glad Donil turned out to be scum. I'm glad we could get our first scum conviction. I can also add to the fact that Stanislav also told me about Dmitri is scum. Here's what he had to say, "Oh, and if I end up dead, I guarantee that Dragonator is scum. I'm sending this before I die to be sure it's heard.". So as he turns out town I'm inclined to believe him as he had very good connections with most people. Now I know he was in contact with the investigator so I do think Dmitri is the investigator. But why Stanislav is so certain he's scum is odd indeed. So yes, I did follow Petr last night. Unfortunately I didn't see what he was up to because he ended up dead. Its so sad he had to die. Now yes I was going to follow Boris, I said that to Barbara as she was very suspicious about Boris. And now she's dead too She was my first ally that I had from the very beginning. Even though she had no night action she was a big help in deciding what I should do at night. Now I chose Petr over Boris because Stanislav was very very suspicious about Petr yet forgot to tell Barbara after I had said to God what I was going to do at night. So I did him a favour and tried to follow him. Disappointed I could not see who his killer was or what he was even doing. Did Stanislav share this suspicion of Petr to anyone else? If anyone wants to ask me any other questions I'm here for a while.
WhiteFang Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 Poor Barbara. I am starting to believe and strongly believe that he is likely a serial killer in our town... But, if I may ask, is the only reason you doubt me because of what Stanislav told you? His gut instinct? I'm sorry, but that seems like very little to risk killing off the investigator in my opinion. If you're willing to take that risk I sure can't stop you, but at least my death will confirm my results for you and be of some little help I guess. He didn't got a chance to explain to me further as he hesitated a little and he sort of left his death note/will before he was brutally murdered. Mark his words, he STRONGLY EMPHASIS that if he is going to get killed tonight, then you are one of the confirmed culprit for his certain death... I am not taking any chances and I do not think you are the investigator in my book. Gosh darnit! This poisoner just has to be a serial killer, right? No scum would kill their own godfather, unless the poisoner was also an usurper... And if it's a vigilante, well... do be more careful! Try to get the godfather again! I shared the same sentiments.
Dragonator Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 Now I chose Petr over Boris because Stanislav was very very suspicious about Petr How very interesting. He appears to be very suspicious of me too, contrary to any possibly logical reasoning I can think of. Wilem, to be honest I find your complete trust in the unverified suspicion of Stanislav somewhat odd. Why exactly do you believe he is correct in his finger pointing? As Ruxana said, he was extremely suspicious of Petr, and how did that turn out? Petr seems to be dead. Oh, and a townie too. I'm also finding it a bit strange that Stanislav told Ruxana of all people not to trust me, considering he was he was quite happy to consider voting Ruxana today, as he said yesterday. Odd also that he didn't mention Denis in that particular message. I don't know, all these random messages out of nowhere are starting to seem mighty suspicious. It just doesn't add up at all.
Peanuts Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 Poor Barbara. She wasn't helpful, but apparently she was at least town. Can't say I blame the killer for his mistake, I think we can be sure he wasn't scum. The scum would never kill so many of the quiet people, especially not those who come up with stranbge ideas that often and have already been voted for. So it's either a serial killer who takes out the quiet ones for obvious reasons or a vigilante who kills quiet people, as he has no clue who he should kill instead. About this whole affair of Stanislavski's legacy to the town, Dmitri is right, claims don't add up. That means, in the end, either were Wilem and Samuel right, or Dmitri (considering, that Stan wasn't saying "absolutely sure" when he meant "could be"). "Absolutely" is absolute. So one of them is lying. And Dmitri can't be an investigator if he was scum. So there has to be another investigator (unless he's dead by now). Denis hasn't made many claims, but it's basically the same with him, though. It's strange that Ruxana claims to have been in contact with him, while he said yesterday he'd be gladly voting for her, if Donil wasn't the major danger in his eyes. It might be that Ruxana tries to gain trust and survive to more rounds by backing up the arguments against the other two. I think it's unlikely he worked together with both Samuel and Ruxana, they don't seem to like each other much. Does anyone of the others he was in contact with ever heard something about Ruxana working with him?
CorneliusMurdock Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 Ruxana's claim is easily faked. How hard is it to say that "Hey I was in contact with Stan, too. He told me the exact same thing he told the others." She's been reading the thread. She knows what the others said and that most of us feeling inclined to vote for her. This seems like a last ditch attempt to save herself to me.
The Crazy One Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 Poor Babara. So sad. If this is a vigilante he's bloody careless. Ruxana's claim is easily faked. How hard is it to say that "Hey I was in contact with Stan, too. He told me the exact same thing he told the others." She's been reading the thread. She knows what the others said and that most of us feeling inclined to vote for her. This seems like a last ditch attempt to save herself to me. A valid point, but then again, it's hard to trust what anyone says in the circumstances.
Peanuts Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 I've thought about it, and I'll vote: Ruxana (Roncanator). It may be a bit early in the day, but I don'tthink there'll anything come up in her favor. If something does though , I'll still have my unvote. Time to get rid of the scum!
Sandy Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 So yes, I did follow Petr last night. Unfortunately I didn't see what he was up to because he ended up dead. Its so sad he had to die. Now yes I was going to follow Boris, I said that to Barbara as she was very suspicious about Boris. And now she's dead too She was my first ally that I had from the very beginning. Even though she had no night action she was a big help in deciding what I should do at night. Now I chose Petr over Boris because Stanislav was very very suspicious about Petr yet forgot to tell Barbara after I had said to God what I was going to do at night. So I did him a favour and tried to follow him. Disappointed I could not see who his killer was or what he was even doing. Did Stanislav share this suspicion of Petr to anyone else? Nice try, Ruxana, but no cookie. Like Nika said, everything you said above could easily be made up by a person who's been watching the talk closely. Unsurprisingly, everyone who could confirm these claims of yours are dead. Besides, it wasn't Barbara who told me you said you were going to follow Boris. You're just full of lies. Vote: Ruxana (Roncanator) And I apologize for ever suspecting your late wife, Boris. She was just so quiet...
Tamamono Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 I can also add to the fact that Stanislav also told me about Dmitri is scum. Here's what he had to say, "Oh, and if I end up dead, I guarantee that Dragonator is scum. I'm sending this before I die to be sure it's heard.". So as he turns out town I'm inclined to believe him as he had very good connections with most people. Now I know he was in contact with the investigator so I do think Dmitri is the investigator. But why Stanislav is so certain he's scum is odd indeed. Like my good sister Nika said, it's only too easy to claim that now that Stanislav is dead. You're just copying what others have said at this point. So yes, I did follow Petr last night. Unfortunately I didn't see what he was up to because he ended up dead. Its so sad he had to die. What was the point of that? The whole issue of Petr had been settled days ago. I'm convinced; Ruxana, you are definitely scum. Vote: Ruxana (Roncanator)
CorneliusMurdock Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 I don't believe Ruxana's statement any more than I believe anything else she's said. An unblockable tracker just doesn't add up. And Donil was lynched yesterday for being seen targeting someone who died. His story was even a little more believable than yours. Combined with the fact that Samuel has revealed that Barbera wasn't the siource she was referring to and it looks like you were scraping the bottom of the barrel when it came to lies. Vote: Ruxana (Roncanator) I don't believe Dmitri's story either but I think an unblockable killer takes priority.
Quarryman Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 I don't believe Dmitri's story either but I think an unblockable killer takes priority. No, Dmitri's story sounds weird indeed, but we can get back to him tomorrow, so for now I think Ruxana is the way to go. Vote: Ruxana (Roncanator)
WhiteFang Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 I don't buy Dmitri's story, but as of now, we should go for Ruxana instead. I don't want to see our votes being divided up again. We will re-visit Dmitri's case first thing tomorrow morning, if me and Samuel is still alive by then... Vote: Ruxana (Roncanator)
Brickdoctor Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 And I apologize for ever suspecting your late wife, Boris. She was just so quiet... No worries - I think I suspected her more than anyone else did. In addition to what everyone else has said, Ruxana is our only suspect not implicated by the messages from Stanislav, which makes her the best choice of the three suspects. Therefore, I Vote: Ruxana (Roncanator).
CMP Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 Ruxana, you don't tell everyone to trust you if you track Boris, and don't track him. The hell is wrong with you, woman? Vote: Ruxana (Roncanator)
JimBee Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 Plus, even if Petr died last night, I would still think that you obtained a result on who targeted him. Vote: Ruxana (Roncanator)
Tamamono Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 Plus, even if Petr died last night, I would still think that you obtained a result on who targeted him. Vote: Ruxana (Roncanator) Actually, she wouldn't. A tracker follows a certain person to see who they target, but a watcher watches a certain person to see who targets that person. In any case, she's obviously lying about her role. The whole issue of Petr was solved days ago, so I wouldn't be surprised if she was the only person to target him.
Fugazi Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 Well it would appear that the evidence against Ruxana is condemning, obviously as long as those who produced it can be trusted. A similar pattern of behaviour led us to a successful lynch yesterday against Donil, so unless anything major comes up: Vote: Ruxana (Roncanator)
Hinckley Posted August 24, 2011 Author Posted August 24, 2011 vote tally Ruxana (Roncanator): 10 votes (Peanuts, Sandy, Captain Tamamono, CorneliusMurdock, Quarryman, WhiteFang, Brickdoctor, CallMePieOrDie, JimButcher, Fugazi) A conviction has been reached. The day will continue until 72 hours are up. During this time, the conviction can be overturned. If you are content with your vote, you may start sending in preliminary night actions. If the day continues this way until the end, I may be able to post the conclusion and next day right away. Thanks.
Sandy Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 A conviction has been reached. The day will continue until 72 hours are up. During this time, the conviction can be overturned. If you are content with your vote, you may start sending in preliminary night actions. If the day continues this way until the end, I may be able to post the conclusion and next day right away. Thanks. Samuel the Big Voice.
Tamamono Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 A conviction has been reached. The day will continue until 72 hours are up. During this time, the conviction can be overturned. If you are content with your vote, you may start sending in preliminary night actions. If the day continues this way until the end, I may be able to post the conclusion and next day right away. Thanks. Hooray for Day 5 early not sleeping! However, we shouldn't just sit around waiting for the Day to end. We need to try and start making sense of this whole ordeal.
The Crazy One Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 I had better lodge my vote: Vote: Ruxana (Roncanator). Anyways, any other leads or evidence that we need to follow up?
Pandora Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 Things have happened apace today. Firstly, Boris, I'm very sorry for your loss, and it worries me greatly that our numbers are dwindling so. The bandwagon has formed and Ruxana, as it stands, will be voted out tonight. The bandwagon formed a little quickly, no? There was no unvoting (yet) or splitting of the votes, just a landslide conviction. I have no idea if Ruxana is scum or not. She certainly hasn't done herself any favours, however I do believe her when she says Stanislav asked her to follow Petr, as I do believe Stanislav didn't trust Petr. And while we're talking about Stanislav, a confirmed townie, we seem to have dismissed our concerns regarding the messages he sent out. I was somewhat under the impression that Stanislav trusted Dmitri, and given Stanislav's role as an inventor, I don't understand how he could be certain about anyone being scum or town, unless he had a strong belief in his own gut feeling. Mind you some gut feelings are better than others. Stanislav seems to have sent a message out regarding his suspicions to an awful lot of people, including some I believed he suspected, however I don't doubt that those messages were sent (although I know nothing of their contents). As has been noted earlier, why did Stanislav trust Dmitri to confirm Samuel as Town but yet accuse Dmitri himself of being scum? As to Denis, he seems happy to ignore the fact that a once vocal townie, Stanislav, pointed quite clearly to him being scum in these last-breath messages. Even after he spent a good while trying to get Stanislav lynched for trying to convict a scum in Donil. We all seem to be happy to ignore that too. So onto our successful conviction of Donil yesterday, resisted by some - those in fact still pushing for Ruxana's death, but it now appears that Donil was merely coincidentally targeting Yuri when Yuri was killed by the (presumed) other mafia. There are a lot of coincidences, really. That Ruxana should be targeting Petr the night he dies too, and not forgetting that Dmitri was targeting Stan the night he died as well. All these night actions buzzing around each other, and there are reports of ?watchers seeing Ruxana go about her business. It's almost as if the scum have this beautifully coordinated - pulling our strings and laughing at how stupid we look when we dance. I'm still not completely convinced Ruxana is scum, and it doesn't matter now really as I don't imagine anyone will unvote (and re-vote for another suspect) after a conviction has been reached. There is always the possibility that people may unvote to leave us convictionless, but I doubt that very much too. I don't have another target for my vote in mind, at least not one that isn't backed up by gut-feelingTM alone, so in order to use my vote and to ensure some sort of conviction I will: Vote: Ruxana (Roncanator)
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