Lobot Posted September 21, 2011 Posted September 21, 2011 I checked late last night and it was still available; 14 ‘sold’ ..........ah well, at least they managed to close it before it reached 200 like one of the others a couple of weeks ago. I’ve reported anything that I've seen like this since it started; I feel really sorry for those who have fallen for similar scams, but I’m surprised that Ebay is still allowing this to happen.
Sokratesz Posted September 21, 2011 Posted September 21, 2011 How difficult can it be to add a system where new ads that fall within certain criteria (keywords, seller profile whatever) have to be approved before going live?
apps Posted September 22, 2011 Posted September 22, 2011 How difficult can it be to add a system where new ads that fall within certain criteria (keywords, seller profile whatever) have to be approved before going live? Don't be ridiculous that would require spending money on creating a filtering program, clearly one of the most ambitious tasks man could ever attempt!
RichardRobins Posted September 22, 2011 Posted September 22, 2011 For such large items as UCS it would be good if there was some kind of filter. When selling say a Playstation 2 on ebay it requires adding in the serial number so it can be manually approved. *or so the ebay message said when I sold my PS2*
Sokratesz Posted September 22, 2011 Posted September 22, 2011 Don't be ridiculous that would require spending money on creating a filtering program, clearly one of the most ambitious tasks man could ever attempt! I don't see ebay curing cancer or feeding africa with all their fees so where the hell do they put it
apps Posted September 23, 2011 Posted September 23, 2011 I don't see ebay curing cancer or feeding africa with all their fees so where the hell do they put it 3 words, upper management bonuses!
def Posted September 23, 2011 Posted September 23, 2011 I don't see ebay curing cancer or feeding africa with all their fees so where the hell do they put it Yeah, those bastards simply run the first international marketplace ever with millions of users. How dare they not catch every individual scammer before they act?! How dare they make a profit on their full time jobs?! There's a reason the phrase 'buyer beware' is older than the English language. I don't blame the buyer, but bitching about eBay that your "too good to be true" deal wasn't true is pretty lame.
Sokratesz Posted September 23, 2011 Posted September 23, 2011 Yeah, those bastards simply run the first international marketplace ever with millions of users. How dare they not catch every individual scammer before they act?! How dare they make a profit on their full time jobs?! There's a reason the phrase 'buyer beware' is older than the English language. I don't blame the buyer, but bitching about eBay that your "too good to be true" deal wasn't true is pretty lame. I don't think dropping in halfway a conversation and replying based on what has only just been said is a good idea. I did not get scammed and its the buyers own fault for sure, but in the end, it's costing Ebay a lot of money and it's causing bad PR. In the past weeks, we have been reporting these listings on a daily basis and sometimes it took more than 72 hours for one to go down, with close to a hundred fraudulent items being sold causing Paypal (and thereby Ebay) over 10k in losses just for that particular listing, and there have been dozens. Assuming they care about the continuity of their business they could at least implement basic security measures to catch these sellers and prevent their ads from going live. Don't lecture me if you don't know what you are talking about. - Sok.
Fatteh Posted September 23, 2011 Posted September 23, 2011 ...In the past weeks, we have been reporting these listings on a daily basis and sometimes it took more than 72 hours for one to go down, with close to a hundred fraudulent items being sold causing Paypal (and thereby Ebay) over 10k in losses just for that particular listing, and there have been dozens... Ebay has an annual revenue in the order of US$10,000,000,000. It is highly likely that the company is occupied with tackling the effects of fraudulent activity which beggars belief, let alone the odd LEGO scam.
def Posted September 23, 2011 Posted September 23, 2011 I don't think dropping in halfway a conversation and replying based on what has only just been said is a good idea. I did not get scammed and its the buyers own fault for sure, but in the end, it's costing Ebay a lot of money and it's causing bad PR. In the past weeks, we have been reporting these listings on a daily basis and sometimes it took more than 72 hours for one to go down, with close to a hundred fraudulent items being sold causing Paypal (and thereby Ebay) over 10k in losses just for that particular listing, and there have been dozens. Assuming they care about the continuity of their business they could at least implement basic security measures to catch these sellers and prevent their ads from going live. Don't lecture me if you don't know what you are talking about. - Sok. I've been following this thread for weeks. It's the main reason that I found a comment like yours worth replying to. I suggest you send an e-mail to the board of directors complaining that they haven't cured cancer yet if you're unsatisfied with their services. Some Chinese guy who sold toothbrushes then sold half price Falcons. And e-bay is slower to catch it than the people who log in to a Lego fan site daily. And that's your reason for condemnation. Think about that for a bit.
Sokratesz Posted September 23, 2011 Posted September 23, 2011 (edited) I've been following this thread for weeks. It's the main reason that I found a comment like yours worth replying to. I suggest you send an e-mail to the board of directors complaining that they haven't cured cancer yet if you're unsatisfied with their services. Some Chinese guy who sold toothbrushes then sold half price Falcons. And e-bay is slower to catch it than the people who log in to a Lego fan site daily. And that's your reason for condemnation. Think about that for a bit. You sure need a sarcasm detector. Did you honestly think I expected them to cure aids and whatever? I'm naive but not quite that naive, we were just poking fun at ebay for responding slowly. And you'd expect that they'd be able to hire a programmer off of those 10 billion to write a little script that labels listings depending on their sensitivity to abuse. Large companies always seem to underestimate this sort of thing until it blows up in their face when someone who got scammed goes public with the accusation that the company did nothing. Look at what that little phrase ended up costing Philip Morris. - Sok. Edited September 23, 2011 by Sokratesz
def Posted September 23, 2011 Posted September 23, 2011 You sure need a sarcasm detector. Did you honestly think I expected them to cure aids and whatever? And you'd expect that they'd be able to hire a programmer off of those 10 billion to write a little script that labels listings depending on their sensitivity to abuse. Large companies always seem to underestimate this sort of thing until it blows up in their face when someone who got scammed goes public with the accusation that the company did nothing. Look at what it ended up costing Philip Morris. - Sok. By comparing them to Philip Morris, you're equating them to killing people with their product by not tracking Chinese scammers vigilantly enough? Whatever it takes for you to feel you saved faced from your initial comment... You won on the Internet, sure, whatever. E-Bay knowingly gave people cancer, Sok Hopefully the other contributors to this thread can show a little more restraint and not resort to such silly hyperbole.
Sokratesz Posted September 23, 2011 Posted September 23, 2011 (edited) Why would I try to save face, I stand by what I said, we were poking fun at ebay for not responding too quickly. Getting something in place to screen the ads is also not very difficult, so I'm surprised they haven't done that. Regardless of the size of their revenue, it only takes one dissatisfied customer to go public (whether or not deaths were involved hardly matters, and the suggestion that I'm calling Ebay on killing customers is a little far fetched) and they'll have to spend a lot of effort to clean it up. Hence, you would expect them to be on the ball when it comes to illegal activities on their website. I appreciate your concern for civilised discussion but you're taking things too seriously. Lets not start yelling at each other too much though, there's youtube comments for that. - Sok. Edited September 23, 2011 by Sokratesz
def Posted September 23, 2011 Posted September 23, 2011 My apologies. I was taking things too seriously. E-Bay is negligent and will be held accountable for their negligence in a highly embarrassing public fashion, one that will be considered life or death. Their CEOs will regret not countering every contingency possible by humans trying to scam money from the public
apps Posted September 23, 2011 Posted September 23, 2011 Why would I try to save face, I stand by what I said, we were poking fun at ebay for not responding too quickly. Getting something in place to screen the ads is also not very difficult, so I'm surprised they haven't done that. Regardless of the size of their revenue, it only takes one dissatisfied customer to go public (whether or not deaths were involved hardly matters, and the suggestion that I'm calling Ebay on killing customers is a little far fetched) and they'll have to spend a lot of effort to clean it up. Hence, you would expect them to be on the ball when it comes to illegal activities on their website. I appreciate your concern for civilised discussion but you're taking things too seriously. Lets not start yelling at each other too much though, there's youtube comments for that. - Sok. Yeah calm down buddy, take your anger out on fellow road users or something
Lobot Posted September 23, 2011 Posted September 23, 2011 I totally understand that Ebay cannot monitor every item that is advertised, it’s clearly an impossible task! However, I do feel that when items are reported they should be able to act more rapidly, especially when the item(s) have been subject to a recent scam. A couple of the ones I reported were still active over 24 hours after I had emailed Ebay, and I assume I wasn’t the only one doing this! In the UK we’ve had several cases were a genuine, established account appears to have been hacked and used to commit fraud. I must admit that I was almost taken in myself when the first one appeared ; they only listed 6 as being available and the seller had very good feedback over several years and a lot of it was for items of a decent value. However, there was a significant ‘gap’ in the feedback, as the account had been inactive for a couple of years and, thankfully, I walked away. I don't know how frequently this is occurring, but I am surprised that Ebay doesn’t seem have some type of automated flag that notifies them when a dormant account is used to sell a lot of high value items in one go? Anyway, I’m just pleased that these scams seem to be getting less common
Lobot Posted September 25, 2011 Posted September 25, 2011 And they're back! Be warned....7 already 'sold' at £170! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LEGO-Star-Wars-10179-UCS-Millennium-Falcon-Brand-New-/270824170929?pt=UK_Construction_Toys_Kits&hash=item3f0e60e5b1 They also have Death Stars @ £130 and lots of robot vacum cleaners ; exactly the same as a couple of days ago....I've reported them to Ebay.
1980-Something-Space-Guy Posted September 25, 2011 Posted September 25, 2011 It's a pity. Whereas some people make amazing stuff with the internet, such as online shopping, others use it for unscrupulous actions. I for one am tired of all these people who scam innocents taking advantage of their trust. Fortunately I have never been a victim of online scamming, but it just makes me sick to know that there are people who can live with themselves while doing this.
Dfenz Posted September 25, 2011 Posted September 25, 2011 And they're back! Be warned....7 already 'sold' at £170! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LEGO-Star-Wars-10179-UCS-Millennium-Falcon-Brand-New-/270824170929?pt=UK_Construction_Toys_Kits&hash=item3f0e60e5b1 They also have Death Stars @ £130 and lots of robot vacum cleaners ; exactly the same as a couple of days ago....I've reported them to Ebay. I've also reported the seller. The more the better. 19 UCS falcons have now been "sold".
apps Posted September 26, 2011 Posted September 26, 2011 Not entirely certain but I am pretty sure there are new scams popping up where the starting bid is high (1500) but he is offering free shipping, I mean come on it cost at least 500+US dollars to send it to australia and he says everywhere gets free shipping. As if he is going to say goodbye to that amount of money!!!
22kane Posted September 26, 2011 Posted September 26, 2011 Just got done reporting this latest scam on eBay. It blows my mind that people just click and buy without researching the buyer. This one however is pretty good. His profile and previous items sold all look legit. Hopefully his latest feedback comments will scare people off.
Sokratesz Posted September 26, 2011 Posted September 26, 2011 Not entirely certain but I am pretty sure there are new scams popping up where the starting bid is high (1500) but he is offering free shipping, I mean come on it cost at least 500+US dollars to send it to australia and he says everywhere gets free shipping. As if he is going to say goodbye to that amount of money!!! I guess adding shipping would overtly complicate the selling procedure for their purposes ;)
Lobot Posted September 26, 2011 Posted September 26, 2011 And they're back again (this one seems very determined!!): http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LEGO-Star-Wars-10179-UCS-Millennium-Falcon-Brand-New-/120784997280?pt=UK_Construction_Toys_Kits&hash=item1c1f58cba0 Reported
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