ApophisV Posted January 2, 2005 Posted January 2, 2005 Hi all, I've to announce that there is a makeshift FBTB board where already some of the members meet: http://repoort.proboards43.com/index.cgi There are also some official words from Duchessa and Cello when the site itself and the forum wil be back / updated: http://repoort.proboards43.com/index.cgi?b...&num=1104421743 So have a look at it! (Hmmm, though since we are back there is no need for another community..... :D ;) ) Quote
Sarg_Kulo Posted January 4, 2005 Posted January 4, 2005 You have to sign up for it again? Meh, I can't be bothered Quote
Sarg_Kulo Posted January 4, 2005 Posted January 4, 2005 "If you have a hotmail account you can't join" Exactly what I thought, that hotmail decision was urm... rubbush :/ . I actually dolike it more here anyway. I was considering leaving FBTB anyway. I just wish I could have finished my BattleFront contest tho :'( Quote
Cello Collin Posted January 4, 2005 Posted January 4, 2005 So... you can't spend an extra 15 minutes or so to sign up for a new forum? That's pretty sad, dude. If you don't want to come back, that's fine. But at least have a good reason. Quote
Vader Posted January 4, 2005 Posted January 4, 2005 The no Hotmail decision is a strange one is there a reason for this :/ Quote
ApophisV Posted January 4, 2005 Author Posted January 4, 2005 Yes, they want to make sure every member can be found (via the valid e-mail adresses, those services have the real names and so on of their members) if they make troubles... Its just a question of responsibility and safety... IMO its up to the FBTB staff to decide if this is the wrong or right way to handle the troll problems... This way for sure is making things more complicated for FBTB (and for the members that have no valid email adress) For sure their community will stop growing and many members will be lost by this decission... But as I said: Its up to Ace, Denise and the of their staff to do so or not to do so... It's their place and the members are their guests, so THEY are allowed to select... ;) (BTW: I had a valid adress some years ago, but I forgot both the adress itself AND the password.... :$) Quote
Cello Collin Posted January 4, 2005 Posted January 4, 2005 For sure their community will stop growing and many members will be lost by this decission... What exactly makes you think this'll happen? We started this rule a long time ago, and community growth never stopped. And how do you know they won't make exceptions for members that were at the old forums before the crash? You guys have no place whatsoever complaining about this rule, when you don't even know about everything that's been going on. We (Ace, De, myself, Duch, etc.) haven't told you everything about what's going on and what will happen. If all y'all are going to do is sit here and wish doom upon our little community, have fun. I'm not sticking around this place to deal with the pissiness. Tootles. Quote
ApophisV Posted January 4, 2005 Author Posted January 4, 2005 Sorry, my post wasn't supposed to judge your acting... I just wanted to try to explain why you are doing things and what I think could / will happen... What you see at the makeshift board is, that already some members are saying that they don't know how to join... Those members that are really connected to FBTB will try to sign up as long as it needs, but I think many passive members that joined up on the old board just for reading and some of those that signed up but only visited rarely maybe will not find those "15 minutes to get access to a friends email"... Those are the groups I talked about in the sentence you quoted... Nonetheless I said its up to you what to do... I wouldn't try to solve the troll problem by the way you do, but I still am allowed to say my opinion about your solution. That I don't like the way you try to solve problems and that I say what I think about the consequences DOESN'T mean that I wish this to FBTB (and I'm especially not "wishing doom" upon the community... And I'm very sure none of us does this...) I hope I was able to correct the sound of my previous post... And how do you know they won't make exceptions for members that were at the old forums before the crash? So you will make exceptions? As far as I understood Duchessa's point ("where do you draw the line") I thought you wouldn't? Quote
Vader Posted January 4, 2005 Posted January 4, 2005 Collin IMO you will lose some members at the start if they only have hotmail accounts, i mean many of us only have hotmail accounts so we would be saddened if we were unable to join. It should also be noted that none of us here wish doom and gloom upon fbtb Quote
Darkkazmo Posted January 4, 2005 Posted January 4, 2005 Collin take it easy pal, I'm sure that this refugee tent has it's own Cons on your brain, "ventilation" isn't quite as good, and the heating system is a bit too strong.... :P Apo and others don't worry guys, I'm sure that there will be a solution somehow for every case. I'm not Ace or De, but we might solve this issue by supplying our true addresses to the admins and have some people who traded with us (for example) confirm the legitimacy of it. I don't know, but I'm sure that Ace and De will bend the rules a bit, at least for the trusted members.. :D Believe me, I'm a heavily a hotmail user my self. :^^D Quote
Vader Posted January 4, 2005 Posted January 4, 2005 Yes but how would they decied who the trusted members are??? i mean ive been reading the boards since they first started but i only joined last year and had less than 100 posts to my name. Quote
Darkkazmo Posted January 5, 2005 Posted January 5, 2005 Honestly, I don't know.. But have you traded with any other member before? If you did, probably you could use his/her confirmation of your home address for a trust worthy member status.. I don't know, I'm just shooting some ideas. Quote
ApophisV Posted January 5, 2005 Author Posted January 5, 2005 Thats very similar to my ebay idea.... The "wannabe-member" tell the FBTB staff his / her ebay name, than FBTB sends a message via the seller-contact option to this name, and if there comes a return confirming that this seller is the guy with the free mail adress the new member can now be tracked by its ebay name... Quote
Darkkazmo Posted January 5, 2005 Posted January 5, 2005 What about people (like me) who don't have an e-bay account? Quote
ApophisV Posted January 5, 2005 Author Posted January 5, 2005 They have to find other ways... I'm pretty sure there are millions (okay, at least hundreds... :$ ;)) of ways to solve the problem.... This ebay solution would be a possibility for those who don't have a valid email adress (maybe because they are using internet-by-call or whatever) but an ebay account... What about company adresses? E.g. peter.parker@company-xy.com.... Those should be valid, or not? (In the case that the company gives those adresses only to their employees...) Quote
Darkkazmo Posted January 5, 2005 Posted January 5, 2005 I am fine with the rule, since I do have an e-mail account from my ISP, I'm just trying to find an alternative and convenient way for the others. But I'm sure Ace/De will find a way. Quote
Jipay Posted January 5, 2005 Posted January 5, 2005 What annoys me is that I red in your temporary forum that a guy wanted to be allowed to register with an hotmail adress because he was kinda a big wig. I don't like this kind of distinction :( I must also say that there are many ways to handle problems with people without having to refer to a "valid" "real" e-mail adress. And there are so many different free e-mail provider that you will NEVER be able to take care of all of them. Delete hotmail, yahoo and other main american ones and then you'll have to deal with the local ones, not to forget there are hundreds of free email providers created every week. We had troubles with a guy here that we banned... He came back, we figured it out because we traced his IP, not because he was using the same e-mail. The same guy was banned 3 times from fbtb and was keep coming lately. E-mail is just in my humble opinion the wrong way to achieve what you are trying to do... But it's just my advice and I deeply don't want you to take this as an attack or something. My advice is that you should just let as many people as possible register in your community so nice and cool people will surround the lazy bastards who has nothing to do there :) I must also add that this is really american (once again, no offense) to think that kids will ask their parents before registering on fbtb. Those times are way behind us... And you never know who is behind the computer's screen :/ Quote
Jipay Posted January 5, 2005 Posted January 5, 2005 What about company adresses? E.g. peter.parker@company-xy.com.... Those should be valid, or not? (In the case that the company gives those adresses only to their employees...) This wouldn't solve the problem because the "problem" is mostly coming from kids who don't have a "valid" e-mail adress whereas parents do because they ordred the connection. And don't worry Apo, use your @eurobricks.com adress. you know, it's redirecting to your hotmail account but who cares ? :D Quote
Darkkazmo Posted January 5, 2005 Posted January 5, 2005 Jipay, I'm neither an administrator nor a moderator over FBTB, but if you happen to know a good solution for this problem, please go ahead and post it over there, after all you are a FBTB member nonetheless. To be honest with you, I wasn't a big favor of this e-mail issue, since I always thought it would refrain new people from joining the club. But on the other hand I wasn Quote
ApophisV Posted January 5, 2005 Author Posted January 5, 2005 Huh, yes, i really forgot about eurobricks as a mail provider.... ;) Quote
Sarg_Kulo Posted January 5, 2005 Posted January 5, 2005 So... you can't spend an extra 15 minutes or so to sign up for a new forum? That's pretty sad, dude.If you don't want to come back, that's fine. But at least have a good reason. Quote
ApophisV Posted January 5, 2005 Author Posted January 5, 2005 And anyway, why do I need that reason when there is already a good one:It sucks there, rocks here you know, you took the **** out of me at FBTB, now you come here and do it??? Dudes, things like THIS should better discussed via PM, don't you think so? Quote
Jipay Posted January 5, 2005 Posted January 5, 2005 Jipay, I'm neither an administrator nor a moderator over FBTB, but if you happen to know a good solution for this problem, please go ahead and post it over there, after all you are a FBTB member nonetheless.To be honest with you, I wasn't a big favor of this e-mail issue, since I always thought it would refrain new people from joining the club. But on the other hand I wasn Quote
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