1h 2012 models

[Alasdair Ryan]

Might the B model for the 9395 be a airport lift for wheel chair users or a access platform?

[JunkstyleGio]

@ Anio:

Venting your opinion as the truth is getting boring!

I would love to see you write something with a little more positive attitude!

For one thing i doubt if you have even built the model yourself or even took the time to read the Building Instructions.

The gearbox for instance is not used to drive the pick-up but to switch between winch and fork. A very nice feature with this gearbox is that the handle is placed in the cabine.

You and others are right about the obvious (and missing of a hinging) fork and winch, but what else would you get on a tow-truck and comparing them with better/different versions from the past is crazy because most of those sets aren't available anymore...

The set itself has so many parts because there are over a hundred axles and more than two-hundred pins and has lots of other parts to give the set this much extra details that makes it a fun set to look at.

One more thing: the pricetag for the 9395 is a bit steap, but if you shop around you might get it lots cheaper! (I've seen prizes down to €43,95 here in the Netherlands..)

So just that's it... and my opinion...

[Meatman]

Well put JSG. My set was just delivered about an hour ago and I can't wait for the kids to get home so we can start building this beautiful model. I think the major overall feature of the 9395 is the stunning appearance because it was designed very well regardless if it has 20 features or not. Calling the 9395 a "Bad Joke" is like slapping the designer across the face.

[JunkstyleGio]

And hinging the forks on the loading platform is a piece of cake!

[zewy623]

JSG can you possibly post a video or pictures of just the model and its functions?

[Edwin Korstanje]

As mentioned here and on Technicbricks we already saw some names and numbers for new set for the 1h2012 wave of Technic sets.

LEGO Technic 2012

9390 Mini Tow Truck

9391 Tracked Crane

9392 Quad Bike

9394 Jet Plane

9395 Pick-Up Tow Truck

A member of LowLug (TAFOL) found on a German website some other things.

Mini-Abschleppwagen €9,20

Raupenkran €13,85

Quad €18,47

Düsenflugzeug €37,17

Pickup-Abschleppwagen €56,07

Holztransporter €112,46

That is 6 set instead of 5....

There is the mentioning of a "Holztransporter", which roughly translates in Wood-Transporter...

Could this be the missing (9393)number?

Could it be a "march release" like last years 8070?

Furthermore on this months desigerblog on the LEGO Technic Designers blog Markus Grosman is talking about some of the unimog may appearances.

This part is combined withe the above mentioned Woodtransporter VERY INTRIGUING:

1 and 1 makes 2?

Or does it?

Could it be some kind of small unimog with a trailer with a woodloader?

Or...

Maybe we would get a first time add-on to the 8110 unimog and could that be a trailercar with crane?...

Or...

Please leave your comments here.

I think it's the small unimog the U20

The upcoming 9397 Logging Truck set looks like a Kenworth. Maybe TLG is trying to increase the appeal of Lego Technic in the American market (where it could do SO MUCH BETTER, considering that its got many times the population of Germany where Technic is king). I know that it will be a big seller in the Pacific Northwest, where there are LOTS of logging trucks in the National Forests around here:

Best DLuders at your Picture off the 9397 is that the new set for 2012 or a old set i have never seen it in Holland

greets Edwin

[zewy623]

I just noticed that 9393 is missing and 9396 is. Is it possibly that they're 2H2012 models?

[bb15080]

I think it's the small unimog the U20

Best DLuders at your Picture off the 9397 is that the new set for 2012 or a old set i have never seen it in Holland

greets Edwin

it's a new set for 2012 possible march

[allanp]

I think that when I see comments like Anio's "bad joke" comment, I agree that it is kinda insulting to the designers that we all know read these blogs, it can't be nice for them to read comments like that. BUT, I am hardley one to judge, I know I have written some things that should have been worded better. I guess it's just because we all owe technic a great hobby (personally I feel I owe it much more than that) so to be a technic designer is more than a Job, to be able to, shall we say, steer the good ship technic into a brighter future is a privaledge we would all love to have and I admit, when I see the first pictures of new models to come out, and when I think of the potencial that could have been (at least in my one single opinion), I get jealous. But at the end of the day I must remind myself that it takes alot of hard work to become an official technic designer working for Lego, work that I have not done. So I try to remain purely constructive in my critisms (unless for comic effect ), So don't sweat it guys, Anio, like me, shouts, because he cares

[Anio]

Venting your opinion as the truth is getting boring!

I would love to see you write something with a little more positive attitude!

It is fun to read that when people have no valuable argument to expose.

I agree that the look of a model may be a matter of opinion.

However, for the features, it is a matter of facts.

steering + fave engine + winch + towing plateform for nearly 1,000 parts, it is lame.

In other words, the set could have been smaller (and so cheaper) and includ the same features.

The gearbox for instance is not used to drive the pick-up but to switch between winch and fork.

Oh thank you so much, I was not aware of that.

A very nice feature with this gearbox is that the handle is placed in the cabine.

Really ? A handle in the cabine is enough for the 9395 to be a great set ? Really ?

but what else would you get on a tow-truck

Nothing but a smaller model with an optimised build.

Look at the concept car of Nathanaël Kuipers and compare it to most other supercars you may find on the Internet. You will understand very quickly what the words "optimised build" mean.

Regarding the hinged plateform, what you did works but seems very weak.

The hinge on 8462 was strong, and the plateform was automatically centered when raised.

As for the gearbox, it is here only to make the motorisation possible.

But motorising a plateform and a winch when we just have to raise and unwind them by 10 cm is pretty useless.

Motorization make sense when the mechanisms require loads and loads of turns. Like 8295, 8053 or 8265.

Sadly, the motorisation disfigures 8295 and 8053.

Fortunately, motorisation is very hardly noticeable on 8265. And it is one reason why 8265 is a terrific set.

Edit :

So don't sweat it guys, Anio, like me, shouts, because he cares

Yes, exactly.

After all, it is not a problem if all the models designed by the Lego designers are not perfect. I would even say that they can not all be perfect. Because they are made for kids with budget restrictions.

What is boring is to read that all the models are great, that they are all outstanding, and that they all deserve 5/5.

Even the Lego designers know that this is not true. They have great building skills, and so, they know the weaknesses of their model. As much as a MOCer know the weaknesses of his MOCs.

As for the bad joke, it is a taunt.

Edited December 13, 2011 by Anio

[Meatman]

Nothing but a smaller model with an optimised build.

Look at the concept car of Nathanaël Kuipers and compare it to most other supercars you may find on the Internet. You will understand very quickly what the words "optimised build" mean.

Couldn't all of the same features in Nathanaël Kuipers' concept car also be done in a smaller model?

[JunkstyleGio]

@ Anio:

Let's agree to disagree.

[Anio]

Couldn't all of the same features in Nathanaël Kuipers' concept car also be done in a smaller model?

Modular build (gearbox, front axle, rear axle, engine, front side) + Gearbox 5+R + steering + 3 transmission modes (+ doors, hood, etc) for 1458 parts.

I do not know how the part number could be significantly lower.

@ JunkstyleGio : Great answer !

[DarkShadow73]

Exactly my question, does Europe get the 9397 Logging Truck now or soon, and we in the USA don't get it until much later? I rather wondered as usually 1st half sets are usually the smaller ones, the 9395 Tow Truck being the biggest I could see on the TRU website. I would love to get my hands on the 9397, t is the 1 set I wanted out of all the newer sets, the little ones don't do much for me, I like a challenge, but I did buy the tracked crane, 9391 I believe is the no., looks interesting, but maybe the 9397 will be a spring release like the 8070 was last year in the US? I did Google it and saw a few people had it in their hands already, so that makes me wonder if they are staggering the release dates and we in the US get it later?

As mentioned here and on Technicbricks we already saw some names and numbers for new set for the 1h2012 wave of Technic sets.

LEGO Technic 2012

9390 Mini Tow Truck

9391 Tracked Crane

9392 Quad Bike

9394 Jet Plane

9395 Pick-Up Tow Truck

A member of LowLug (TAFOL) found on a German website some other things.

Mini-Abschleppwagen €9,20

Raupenkran €13,85

Quad €18,47

Düsenflugzeug €37,17

Pickup-Abschleppwagen €56,07

Holztransporter €112,46

That is 6 set instead of 5....

There is the mentioning of a "Holztransporter", which roughly translates in Wood-Transporter...

Could this be the missing (9393)number?

Could it be a "march release" like last years 8070?

Furthermore on this months desigerblog on the LEGO Technic Designers blog Markus Grosman is talking about some of the unimog may appearances.

This part is combined withe the above mentioned Woodtransporter VERY INTRIGUING:

1 and 1 makes 2?

Or does it?

Could it be some kind of small unimog with a trailer with a woodloader?

Or...

Maybe we would get a first time add-on to the 8110 unimog and could that be a trailercar with crane?...

Or...

Please leave your comments here.

Edited December 13, 2011 by TechnicFreak

[DarkShadow73]

JSG - how exactly do you hinge the lift? I see your pics, but I don't really see how you did it speficially? This model is exactly how regular-duty tow trucks look like in the USA with a winch and wheel lift. From what I gathered on the TRU website before I ordered I understood that the lift goes up and down manually, or when PF motorized it automatically goes up and down? Is that not the case, does it always stay down, that would be plenty stupid if it did, in the US the wheel lifts generally slide under the truck, but obviously it would be impossible to do with this model, but please correct me and I hope I am right, does it lock up into place when not used? As far as the turning or pivoting of the lift side to side, I believe that is what you accomplished in your pics, but is there any way you can elaborate a bit more on how to modify it to do this?

Thanks, Eric

And hinging the forks on the loading platform is a piece of cake!

Alasdair-

This looks a bit interesting, but does anybody know how this lift works as far as does it go up and swing inwards onto the chassis of the truck? There actually have been a few Technic models I have bought simply for the B model. I bought this for the main model, but if it is functional enough I might buy another down the road for the B model.

Might the B model for the 9395 be a airport lift for wheel chair users or a access platform?

I had expected after the release of the Unimog last summer, Lego was creeping back into pneumatics, I see this has an LA to the lift the boom of the 9397, kind of disappointing in a way, I love pneumatics so much more...

I've been harvesting this set since I first seen it... Looks like fantastic a Model..

Hopefully Lego has those panels in stock to sell soon.

I haven't seen any pics of the B-Model of the 9397 yet...

Edited December 13, 2011 by TechnicFreak

[Pauger]

I do not understand your question.

8265 is a great set. Awesome look, great features, so many gears, and motorizing make the model even cooler.

9395 is not a great set. That's it.

My point was that I think 9395 and 8265 are very similar. The front loader needs a motor and a gearbox more than the tow truck (and is also more useless without a motor), but still... 8041 is a prime example of bad joke, 9395 seems nowhere near as bad.

[gmshades]

My point was that I think 9395 and 8265 are very similar. The front loader needs a motor and a gearbox more than the tow truck (and is also more useless without a motor), but still... 8041 is a prime example of bad joke, 9395 seems nowhere near as bad.

I know this is getting off topic, but I just bought the 8041 set at half price because of the 5 flat panels, v8 motor, rear end components, 10 black 15 long liftarms, and other misc parts you can't get for that price on brickshelf.

Back on topic:

I'm getting the 9395 for Christmas. Only thing that concerns me is it's not in scale with 8258 8285 etc. I'm hoping to convert it to look like a semi with a tow hitch adaptor that attaches to a fifth wheel. Imo would have been a better set if scaled down to the flatbed 8109 from last year.

[davidmull]

I wonder what's the chances of getting a set with pneumatics in 2012?

[Anio]

8041 is a prime example of bad joke, 9395 seems nowhere near as bad.

Agreed.

[jorgeopesi]

We must not forget that this is for kids, I do not like anything in 2012 so I do my mocs, sorry for collectors...

[zewy623]

Why do trucks with winches (usually the bigger trucks) have 50cm strings but small sets like the mini crane have 100cm string?

Edited December 14, 2011 by zewy623

[DarkShadow73]

Big overall question for the models that have just come out 1h2012. Lego has not posted the B model instructions. I considered building the B model of the 9395 Tow Truck, but without being able to download the instructions, what good is it. I know S@H rarely has items on their website before TRU does, which has always seemed odd to me. If they are in the TRU distribution centers they obviously came from Lego, but why does it take S@H, at least here in the US, sometimes 3-6 weeks to catch up and get them posted on their website. One would think if TRU got them, TLG would have to have shipped them from their dist. centers. Anybody have the B model instructions for the 9391 and 9395?

[gmshades]

Alasdair-

This looks a bit interesting, but does anybody know how this lift works as far as does it go up and swing inwards onto the chassis of the truck? There actually have been a few Technic models I have bought simply for the B model. I bought this for the main model, but if it is functional enough I might buy another down the road for the B model.

There is a vertical axle that the platform pivots on. It has a worm gear on it for the 24t gear to raise and lower the platform. Its topped off with a yellow half bushing. Hth.

[JunkstyleGio]

@ Technicfreak and others!

Made a Pdf with building instructions on my "hinged Loading platform"

Mega-upload

Hope you like it!

Edited December 14, 2011 by JunkstyleGio

[DarkShadow73]

Thanks JSG, appreciate it.

@ Technicfreak and others!

Made a Pdf with building instructions on my "hinged Loading platform"

Mega-upload

Hope you like it!