Aethersprite Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 EDIT: What I almost forgot to say about Core Hunter... Silver 2.0 shields! Actually, I believe they're black on Core Hunter, and silver on Stringer and Bulk. Quote
dviddy Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 I am planning on buying the hell out of Speeda Demon. Love it. Quote
Front Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 How many new "bone" or beam pieces do you think 2012 will bring ? 2012 is a good year, the building system is still developing, and I'm really happy about it. Erland, Part Design Quote
Dorek Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 How many new "bone" or beam pieces do you think 2012 will bring ? 2012 is a good year, the building system is still developing, and I'm really happy about it. Erland, Part Design You are the king of enigmatic statements, good sir. I'm going to interpret your question as meaning that we'll see new ones; I have no idea where, though, or what they'll look like. Any hints? :P Quote
Logan McOwen Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Sorry, I didn't take any pics of the ninjago. But I can say the serpent bike or something like that is pretty lame because it's squarish-looking. But hey. HEY. There you go There is some better pics of the other sets too, but if you need some more info, for example, core hunter's head has many details, including six eyes. Speeda Demon looks awesome in my opinion~ Quote
ZORK64 Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Actually, I believe they're black on Core Hunter, and silver on Stringer and Bulk. Well, in that case I have to fix my post. But that's even more awesome. Quote
Darking Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 How many new "bone" or beam pieces do you think 2012 will bring ? 2012 is a good year, the building system is still developing, and I'm really happy about it. Erland, Part Design Let me guess, we have the new one in Voltix's arms that I pointed some pages ago, and the yellow bad dude seems to use a new, armored bone just right before his feet. Quote
Mesonak Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Voltix has no new bone piece; in this picture, you can clearly see how his arms are constructed. While the TV show variant is different, the TV show usually takes artistic liberties with set designs in order to "neaten them up" persay. I disagree with the way Voltix's arms are designed, I think they look cluttered, and I would prefer the version depicted in the TV show. But that's not what we're getting unless they radically alter his arm design. Regarding XT4, he doesn't have any new bone pieces either. He simply uses a standard "upper-arm/leg" bone piece with a size 5 armor piece attached to the side. He does, however, appear to have a new piece that makes up his central torso design. But who can really say? Quote
Darth Nihilus Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 How many new "bone" or beam pieces do you think 2012 will bring ? 2012 is a good year, the building system is still developing, and I'm really happy about it. Erland, Part Design Oh, why do you tease us so? I can't say how many new limb pieces, but I do see a new armor piece on Voltix's upper arm, another on Core Hunter's lower leg, and one more on Core Hunter's upper arm. Quote
Jetrax99 Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Oh, why do you tease us so? I can't say how many new limb pieces, but I do see a new armor piece on Voltix's upper arm, another on Core Hunter's lower leg, and one more on Core Hunter's upper arm. The armor on Core Hunter's upper arms is not new. It's the claw piece from Rocka and Stormer 3.0 in black. Quote
Darth Nihilus Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 The armor on Core Hunter's upper arms is not new. It's the claw piece from Rocka and Stormer 3.0 in black. No, it isn't. I've tried that connection, and the only way for that piece to attach to the upper arm of a villain or hero is if you don't snap the piece on entirely. Also, there are no visible bar pieces on the armor in the picture. Quote
Bfahome Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 No, it isn't. I've tried that connection, and the only way for that piece to attach to the upper arm of a villain or hero is if you don't snap the piece on entirely. Also, there are no visible bar pieces on the armor in the picture. They look like they're behind the armor, not directly on it. Wait you can't even see the armor, the blade is in the way. He probably just has one of the "paw" pieces on his shoulders. Quote
Jetrax99 Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 They look like they're behind the armor, not directly on it. Wait you can't even see the armor, the blade is in the way. He probably just has one of the "paw" pieces on his shoulders. That "paw" piece is what I was referring to. Quote
-PROCTOR- Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Hmm, it seems that both Core hunter and Voltix have the same armor on their lower legs. Quote
MakutaDreadscythe Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 How many new "bone" or beam pieces do you think 2012 will bring ? 2012 is a good year, the building system is still developing, and I'm really happy about it. Erland, Part Design Considering he mentioned technic beams as well, I'll be the first to suggest that Speeda Demon has a new beam piece with a ball joint or two inside. Quote
Aanchir Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Considering he mentioned technic beams as well, I'll be the first to suggest that Speeda Demon has a new beam piece with a ball joint or two inside. Beam in this case is probably just him using the official term for bone pieces, as can be seen on LDD. For instance, there are lower limb bones (A beams), upper limb bones (B beams) and beams with a ball cup on each end (C beams), as well as torso beams. Part of the reason I prefer calling them bones is that it helps differentiate them from Technic beams (and because they form the "skeleton" of the model). Front, are you just referring to parts in new colors, or to new parts altogether? If you mean completely new parts, then I suspect at least one will show up in the torso of Stormer XL. His torso build is very complicated-looking compared to some previous "titan" sets, and it's hard to tell what parts are used in its construction. Quote
Front Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) Beam in this case is probably just him using the official term for bone pieces, as can be seen on LDD. Front, are you just referring to parts in new colors, or to new parts altogether? If you mean completely new parts, then I suspect at least one will show up in the torso of Stormer XL. His torso build is very complicated-looking compared to some previous "titan" sets, and it's hard to tell what parts are used in its construction. Beams in this building system are in my terms something with Technic holes, ball cups, and balls. Maybe even a Technic connector as we have on the two special beam elements with 2 and 3 balls respectively. Even axle holes could be added. Not necessarily all these connector types all at once, more often only two of them, and in some cases only one. I don't think we've seen an element with only one type, but one part has to be the first. I do count torsos as beams, or more correctly in the beam system. Opposed to shells. The backbone in this new systems, beams (bones) and shells. On shells we can then add "finishing" or decoration elements using the two small shaft holes one module apart. Very few decoration elements has the ability to have any further part added to them. Simply to avoid "flimsy" and unstable builds. And no, new colours never make a new piece in my book. If all the company wanted to add in the future was new colours to existing parts, I would be bored at work. Erland, Part Design Edited January 17, 2012 by Front Quote
_shaddow_ Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 I'm pretty sure that the grey piece that attaches the white torso armors on Stormer XL's lower legs are new and I think they would be pretty useful to cover hero backs using other armors instead of MTIS. Quote
Logan McOwen Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 I'm pretty sure that the grey piece that attaches the white torso armors on Stormer XL's lower legs are new and I think they would be pretty useful to cover hero backs using other armors instead of MTIS. I'm late here: What grey piece? :/ Quote
Mesonak Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 The piece that connects the large torso armor to the sides of Stormer XL's legs, while still allowing for a smaller piece of armor to be connected to the other sides via traditional means. Quote
Logan McOwen Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 The piece that connects the large torso armor to the sides of Stormer XL's legs, while still allowing for a smaller piece of armor to be connected to the other sides via traditional means. I need showing this. Quote
Omicron Squad Leader Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Beams in this building system are in my terms something with Technic holes, ball cups, and balls. Maybe even a Technic connector as we have on the two special beam elements with 2 and 3 balls respectively. Even axle holes could be added. Not necessarily all these connector types all at once, more often only two of them, and in some cases only one. I don't think we've seen an element with only one type, but one part has to be the first. I do count torsos as beams, or more correctly in the beam system. Opposed to shells. The backbone in this new systems, beams (bones) and shells. On shells we can then add "finishing" or decoration elements using the two small shaft holes one module apart. Very few decoration elements has the ability to have any further part added to them. Simply to avoid "flimsy" and unstable builds. And no, new colours never make a new piece in my book. If all the company wanted to add in the future was new colours to existing parts, I would be bored at work. Erland, Part Design Front, may I ask you a question? Did the designers plan to use the 1.0 helmets for Breakout since the beginning, or was it due to fan reception? Thanks. Quote
Front Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 Front, may I ask you a question? Did the designers plan to use the 1.0 helmets for Breakout since the beginning, or was it due to fan reception? Thanks. The 1.0 Hero helmet/masks are in my view iconic. In my perfect world a mask should never be reused, at least not in the same colour. Recolours can sometimes be awesome. By using an old helmet it make rooms for new designs of shell, bones, or decoration parts. Designers at LEGO HF select the designs of sets, based on their own beliefs, and group discussions among the designers, within the limits of the available number of new part designs and colour diversions. The rest of the project group are also encouraged to come with input to the early designs, leading up to management giving a go for final development of the sets. Designers at HF use "kid-test" to see how the target group, both light and heavy users, react to the sets and the story-concepts presented to them. Most of the fan inputs they get from me, but they don't listen to me. I often tell them to do mere complex builds, use rarer colours, or some other features that I pick up at e.g. Eurobricks. But what fans like is not always what sell. More likely it's the opposite way around. Kids in the target groups may more likely pick up a simple iconic two legged, two armed hero, than some weird hard to depict "structure", when they are in the store with their parents. Some sets that are praised to the skies by fans, resulting in multiple purchases by fans, may in the large scale sell quite poor. There is no equivalent to Modular buildings in LEGO action figure sets. As much as I would like it to happen, I just don't think it ever will. Erland, Part Design Quote
Metalshadow Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 The 1.0 style heads are my favorite, so I'm really happy they were reused on the Breakout figures. Quote
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