Big Cam Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 I've given this careful consideration and can't think of any other way to handle the situation but to come and lay it out to all of you directly. Last night, I took my medication and was given an awesome power and responsibility, the chance to track someone to see who they targeted. I made my choice and awoke with a fresh memory of what happened. I had sort of wished it was a nightmare, but it was real, and it was horrible. "Lumpy" Zed Furby (Zepher) killed Rolly "Cracker-Man" Crackerman (Ricecracker) last night while disguised as Darth Vader. He is either the scum or serial killer. I'm leaning towards serial killer since the Walrus seems to be related to the events of the past and all of this insanity with Frau Crazypants. We need to work together and act quickly to stop Zed before he can strike again. I hope I can count on all of you to help. Oh, and before he claims to have been targeting for another purpose, I was able to take advantage of a lucky coincidence to confirm that his meds yesterday were useless. Therefore, he had to be acting with an action he already had, one to kill us brutally. So there you have it, our first real lead. Let's use it, this is incredibly important. Wow, why did you choose Lumpy? I ask because I choose Lumpy as well, the drug I took yesterday allows me to investigate someone to see if they have the ability to kill, and I choose Lumpy and my result came back that he can kill. So your results back mine up and out makes me think that the results are trustworthy. Also note if the drugs do the same thing every day then Pearl (peanuts) will be able to investigate someone tonight for a kill ability. I think we got lucky and have at least a killer to target today, we still don't know if he's a serial killer or scum, but the less killers the better. And as for out bring careless sharing the results, that may be, but how else would the group get to know, I can't say vote for Lumpy with no reason, we all see how well that turned out yesterday.
Shadows Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 OK, our first result given to us by the meds. So there was a watcher action too. We've killed the tracker action and I do have to say you were rather careless in revealing what your meds did!! :hmpf: If they do the same thing every day, the Scum will most likely kill you tonight to get rid of that med! What were you thinking? There's no way to tell that the drugs do the same thing daily, especially when taken by different people, that's just silly to assume so. I could keep quiet and maybe die a coward, or speak out and try to help us and in the process, protect myself from the serial killer. That seems like the better alternative, to be blunt. I'd much rather reveal what I know and stop a killer than die in my bed with some masked freak hovering over me slashing me to bits. Duh. At the same time, do the meds give an honest result? And did it tell you he dressed up as Darth Vader and killed him? That's a very specific return from your action. Wouldn't it just say he targeted Crackerman? If so, he could've investigated him or something. Crackerman is notorious for being quiet and therefore being hard to read. I can be nearly 100% secure here, and as you don't think I should reveal everything, don't expect me to be any more specific. There simply isn't a need, a killer has been revealed. That's all there is to it. If we're smart, we'll find out about the reliability of the results, but I feel very secure in them, it would be ridiculously coincidental to see someone target the exact person who died and then have it be wrong. It did not mention the Darth Vader costume. I guess this is a situation where we have to follow the lead to see if it pans out, but if Zed is a werewolf Scum, then you better hope someone can protect you, and that med, from the Scum tonight! Finally you start making sense, and yes, I know it puts me in danger, but what else could I do? I do hope someone can protect me... Wow, why did you choose Lumpy? I ask because I choose Lumpy as well, the drug I took yesterday allows me to investigate someone to see if they have the ability to kill, and I choose Lumpy and my result came back that he can kill. So your results back mine up and out makes me think that the results are trustworthy. Also note if the drugs do the same thing every day then Pearl (peanuts) will be able to investigate someone tonight for a kill ability. I think we got lucky and have at least a killer to target today, we still don't know if he's a serial killer or scum, but the less killers the better. And as for out bring careless sharing the results, that may be, but how else would the group get to know, I can't say vote for Lumpy with no reason, we all see how well that turned out yesterday. It was pretty random, I didn't have anyone who bothered me much yesterday except tattoo face and that situation was over. You probably shouldn't have revealed all of that, but it's damn good to hear it confirmed, it makes me feel a lot more sane.
Peanuts Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 Wow, why did you choose Lumpy? I ask because I choose Lumpy as well, the drug I took yesterday allows me to investigate someone to see if they have the ability to kill, and I choose Lumpy and my result came back that he can kill. So your results back mine up and out makes me think that the results are trustworthy. Also note if the drugs do the same thing every day then Pearl (peanuts) will be able to investigate someone tonight for a kill ability. Thank you for pointing that out. Anyoen else want to tell the effects of his pills? Come on, don't be shy, I'm sure the scum doesn't listen. They now know the effect of at least nine pills: the testicles, the devils, the peach cobbler, the crystals and the five ones they took.
Big Cam Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 Foolish or not, knowledge is power and the town needs to get some power on our side so we can make an educated vote today.
Peanuts Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 Foolish or not, knowledge is power and the town needs to get some power on our side so we can make an educated vote today. Yes, but the scum can use this power to take our night actions out one by one. And to be honest, I think we would have most likely killed Zed without you telling them the effect of the crystals. And even if we hadn't, you could have backed it up later.
Big Cam Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 Day One, Shift One: 1. Nasal Inhaler Poby Flanagan 2. The Big Fat Pill Ali "Periscope" Perry 3. DMT Pandoo 4. White Crystals Pearl Nuttin 5. Powdered Rhino Horn Rickety Cannon 6. Red Devils Draxia 7. Horse Tranquilizers Stanley Spussemmin 8. Peach Cobbler Shalonda Cunningham 9. Lemon Peel 10. Sponk Boo Cameron 11. Downers Heng Lewley I'll take the sponk], it's about time for some pills.
Shadows Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 Thank you for pointing that out. Anyoen else want to tell the effects of his pills? Come on, don't be shy, I'm sure the scum doesn't listen. They now know the effect of at least nine pills: the testicles, the devils, the peach cobbler, the crystals and the five ones they took. I know for a fact that the peach cobbler hasn't been revealed as I took it today and have told nothing. I checked and it wasn't revealed yesterday either. I'd actually thought it was new when I picked it, because I took my meds during the first shift yesterday and didn't look at the second shift list very closely. Whatever the case, no one knows what, if anything, it does. I don't know about all of the rest because I don't intend to take anything twice, I'm going to try as many different things as I can, as I said yesterday. Plus there is still no guarantee that everything does the same thing every day when taken by different people. Or maybe shift 1 and shift 2 versions of the same med do different things. There are too many possibilities to assume anything until a few days have passed and patterns can hopefully be found. Still, you're probably right, we should be as careful as possible about our meds until we understand everything, I just think that this situation was important enough to warrant revealing what I could. If none of us do that, we'll all sit quietly by, waiting to be killed.
Big Cam Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 Yes, but the scum can use this power to take our night actions out one by one. And to be honest, I think we would have most likely killed Zed without you telling them the effect of the crystals. And even if we hadn't, you could have backed it up later. Very possibly, but then I'm sure there would be accusations of me making it up to keep the votes on Lumpy if people were swaying away. Being up front and honest from the beginning is the best way to go about it in my eyes. The only thing we can do is work together, if I withhold information I don't see how that's working together. I may have revealed too much about my drug, but by telling you all what I found put, it wouldn't be hard to guess what my drugs ability was, plus transparency is key, so we are all on the same page. Thank you for pointing that out. Anyoen else want to tell the effects of his pills? Come on, don't be shy, I'm sure the scum doesn't listen. They now know the effect of at least nine pills: the testicles, the devils, the peach cobbler, the crystals and the five ones they took. Your forgetting that now the town knows as well. Pills get gobbled up quickly, so if the town can get the pills with active powers (assuming they stay the same) then we have the advantage!
Tamamono Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 Oh no! Poor Rolly and Rick! Frankly, I was suspecting Carl to actually come up neutral, what with his strange claims and all, but apparently he was town. He really dug his own grave with his behavior. So there you have it, our first real lead. Let's use it, this is incredibly important. Wow, why did you choose Lumpy? I ask because I choose Lumpy as well, the drug I took yesterday allows me to investigate someone to see if they have the ability to kill, and I choose Lumpy and my result came back that he can kill. So your results back mine up and out makes me think that the results are trustworthy. Also note if the drugs do the same thing every day then Pearl (peanuts) will be able to investigate someone tonight for a kill ability. Thank you both for being brave enough to reveal your results, but don't you realize that you've now made those pills useless? Whoever gets them will be killed by the scum so they can get rid of the pill! Well, at least you were able to catch Lumpy in the act. It looks like we're going to be lynching a scum/serial killer today!
Peanuts Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 I know for a fact that the peach cobbler hasn't been revealed as I took it today and have told nothing. I checked and it wasn't revealed yesterday either. I'd actually thought it was new when I picked it, because I took my meds during the first shift yesterday and didn't look at the second shift list very closely. Whatever the case, no one knows what, if anything, it does. I don't know about all of the rest because I don't intend to take anything twice, I'm going to try as many different things as I can, as I said yesterday. My bad, I meant the sugar pill. I was confusing the two pills you took. There's something I came to think about: -The scum doesn't have to take medicine. -Every player has only two possibilities: Choose a medicine or not choose a medicine -If you choose a medicine, you'll get the medicine you chose. => -The only way the scum can get no medicine is not choosing medicine. => -If the scum doesn't choose a medicine, they don't get a medicine. -Every townie, who doesn't choose a medicine, gets one randomly though. What happens if nobody chooses a medicine then? I can't ofind a logical error, can anyone?
Big Cam Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 Thank you both for being brave enough to reveal your results, but don't you realize that you've now made those pills useless? Whoever gets them will be killed by the scum so they can get rid of the pill! Well, at least you were able to catch Lumpy in the act. It looks like we're going to be lynching a scum/serial killer today! It's a double edged sword, even if we said nothing of the pill, everyone would be able to look back ans see what we took. We can only hope the pills effects are not the same each night. Plus if no one revealed any clues we would all continue to die anyway. This is actually a huge win for us, because we are removing someone with the ability to kill, so even if, (God forbid) a townie gets killed due to the information released about the kills, we are hopefully saving many more from dying randomly each night by a killer. If we successfully vote off Lumpy then he can't target the ones taking any pills. It's our only line of defense.
Professor Flitwick Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 What happens if nobody chooses a medicine then? I can't ofind a logical error, can anyone? Holds dead fish to ear. Koilette would like me to congratulate you; you've come up with a good resolution to our problem! Anyone takes a pill, especially one proven to have a decent night action, shall be lynched. What is more, we could al reveal our results the following day; Freu's agents wouldn't necessarily attack them; they won't have the same pill/night action again the next night!
Peanuts Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 If we successfully vote off Lumpy then he can't target the ones taking any pills. It's our only line of defense. You do realize the scum will assign a new killer, who'll be able to kill me and Cunningham, don't you? Anyway, I still think you wouldn't have to out our pill. Even in case we wouldn't have followed Cunningham (which I doubt) and even if we wouldn't have believed you after you revealed our pill nevertheless (which i doubt), I still could have told them you said the truth about the effect.
Big Cam Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 Here's the results of the first day. Once Day Three hits, we can take a look at people who will go back for the same meds... Um, will this posting stop people from going back for seconds? The nature of the meds "game mechanic" will naturally stop people from doing this if they're up to something. If I post it or not, people will know it's being watched. This way, it's all out in the open. Someone tell me if there's an angle I'm not considering. This is from yesterday, I think it will prove helpful in figuring out this pill thing. So who didn't take a pill yesterday?
Shadows Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 What happens if nobody chooses a medicine then? I can't ofind a logical error, can anyone? Aren't we all required to or one will be assigned to us? I've sort of assumed that the scum have their own prechosen actions and the medicine is just a cover for them, while we're hoping to get good actions to use against them. I'm even thinking that the only way it would be fair is if there are multiples of some actions in the drugs, just to give more of us the chance to do something to help. By that logic, they can't kill everyone who gets a good med, plus they can never be sure how many of any action could be out there. I really don't think that the small number of reveals so far amount to much, I'm betting there are more powerful drugs out there and some that they would much rather find if they can. If they can identify 5 a day on their own, it wouldn't take long to find a lot of them anyway, so early honesty is probably our best bet, within careful limits, of course. Patients who choose not to select their own medicine will be randomly assigned medicine from the remaining stock. So everyone is going to get medicine no matter what. I think it's more a matter of someone not paying attention/participating much, since it would be stupid for scum to reveal themselves this way. The important part is that the scum doesn't have to use theirs, from what it said before this, meaning they must have their own actions. Probably worse ones.
Hinckley Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 There's no way to tell that the drugs do th...th Vader costume. Finally you start making sense, and yes, I know it puts me in danger, but what else could I do? I do hope someone can protect me... Stop yelling at me and rolling your eyes at me! I'm trying to work with you. You're so aggravating. Can't you just move on with the positive? I'm endorsing voting out Zed. You're probably right and we have to test the results. Jesus, you can be rude. Foolish or not, knowledge is power and the town needs to get some power on our side so we can make an educated vote today. However, should we stop revealing what our meds do? What if they do the same thing every day? You're putting others at risk. You're even pointing out who took your med today. Knowledge is power, but it's just as powerful for the Scum to know what the meds do? Are we to reveal what all meds do? Let the Scum know who to take out? What if the meds are our only Night Actions? Should we just cripple the Town by telling everyone what each one does?? Come on people... What happens if nobody chooses a medicine then? I can't ofind a logical error, can anyone? I can! Fraulein Bloodbrick assigns meds to the people who don't choose them, so I would assume everyone would get one. I doubt she would make it so obvious as to setup a rule that could potentially reveal all five of her henchmen at once. The medicine-taking I would imagine would be they can choose not to use it. So, if we see someone take a medication that has an obvious result and they don't use it, then we know they're Scum. But how many meds have an obvious result? And who's to say that the person chose not to use it vs. being blocked.
Tamamono Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 Whoops, almost forgot my meds! Day One, Shift One: 1. Nasal Inhaler Poby Flanagan 2. The Big Fat Pill Ali "Periscope" Perry 3. DMT Pandoo 4. White Crystals Pearl Nuttin 5. Powdered Rhino Horn Rickety Cannon 6. Red Devils Draxia 7. Horse Tranquilizers Stanley Spussemmin 8. Peach Cobbler Shalonda Cunningham 9. Lemon Peel "Tammo" 10. Sponk Boo Cameron 11. Downers Heng Lewley Down the hatch! It's a double edged sword, even if we said nothing of the pill, everyone would be able to look back ans see what we took. We can only hope the pills effects are not the same each night. Plus if no one revealed any clues we would all continue to die anyway. This is actually a huge win for us, because we are removing someone with the ability to kill, so even if, (God forbid) a townie gets killed due to the information released about the kills, we are hopefully saving many more from dying randomly each night by a killer. If we successfully vote off Lumpy then he can't target the ones taking any pills. It's our only line of defense. That's a good point. If nobody revealed their actions, then we wouldn't be able to get the scum. Let's just hope whoever gets those two pills today will be able to survive the night. If Lumpy is the SK (or even the scum killer), and we lynch him today, then he can't kill anybody.
Scouty Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 Well, that was unexpected . I guess I'll take the Lemon Peel, sounds fresh! Day One, Shift One: 1. Nasal Inhaler Poby Flanagan 2. The Big Fat Pill Ali "Periscope" Perry 3. DMT Pandoo 4. White Crystals Pearl Nuttin 5. Powdered Rhino Horn Rickety Cannon 6. Red Devils Draxia 7. Horse Tranquilizers Stanley Spussemmin 8. Peach Cobbler Shalonda Cunningham 9. Lemon Peel Sassy Cooter 10. Sponk Boo Cameron 11. Downers Heng Lewley Oh, bugger, I was microseconds off Guess I'll have to wait for the second shift. Anyway, it looks like Zed is the clear target for today, and I hope that it is the right choice.
WhiteFang Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 Why am I always late?? I want to choose my own medicine instead of randomly left for the last pill. Guess I needs to wait for the second shift and I hope I will be around to get some medicine to ease my nerve.
Brickdoctor Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 Oh Oh,, MegaBloks MegaBloks.. Four Four Townies Townies dead dead.. This This is is definitely definitely not not the the way way I I wanted wanted to to start start.. And And Tammo Tammo took took the the last last pill pill!! Now Now I I have have to to wait wait,, and and since since I I am am probably probably going going to to have have to to sleep sleep through through the the whole whole Day Day,, I I will will most most likely likely end end up with with a random random pill pill or or whatever whatever is is left.. But But that that is is okay okay,, because because Tammo Tammo is is so so incredibly incredibly handsome handsome.. :wub:
WhiteFang Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 What happens if nobody chooses a medicine then? I can't ofind a logical error, can anyone? If I recall correctly, I was the "last" person yesterday who did not have the chance to choose the medicine and I am very sure that I had took the remaining last piece, so I do believe all of us can choose a medicine one way or another, but the decision might lies with, whether the scums "consumes" them by choice, unlike us, where our consumption in terms of townies is "compulsory". I am not sure if I am thinking it right.
Peanuts Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 Oh Oh,, MegaBloks MegaBloks.. Four Four Townies Townies dead dead.. This This is is definitely definitely not not the the way way I I wanted wanted to to start start.. And And Tammo Tammo took took the the last last pill pill!! Now Now I I have have to to wait wait,, and and since since I I am am probably probably going going to to have have to to sleep sleep through through the the whole whole Day Day,, I I will will most most likely likely end end up with with a random random pill pill or or whatever whatever is is left.. But But that that is is okay okay,, because because Tammo Tammo is is so so incredibly incredibly handsome handsome.. :wub: Could you quit saying everything twice? Gives me a hard time following you. If I recall correctly, I was the "last" person yesterday who did not have the chance to choose the medicine and I am very sure that I had took the remaining last piece, so I do believe all of us can choose a medicine one way or another, but the decision might lies with, whether the scums "consumes" them by choice, unlike us, where our consumption in terms of townies is "compulsory". I am not sure if I am thinking it right. That's a good idea. So if I understand you right, you mean the scum doesn't have to take them themselves, but can e.g. give them their other scum members or decide not to take them at all?
def Posted September 18, 2011 Author Posted September 18, 2011 MOD NOTE: As the first shift's medicine has been obediently taken, we can start on shift two. Results tomorrow, cuz I'm a sleepy game host 1. Strawberry Dust 2. Paint Thinner 3. Black Beauties 4. Opium 5. Bug Dust 6. Magic Beans 7. Uppers 8. Blue Bennies 9. Yellowjackets 10. Saline Infusion 11. Sugar Pill
Brickdoctor Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 Oh Oh good good!! 1. 1. Strawberry Strawberry Dust Dust 2. 2. Paint Paint Thinner Thinner 3. 3. Black Black Beauties Beauties 4. 4. Opium Opium 5. 5. Bug Bug Dust Dust 6. 6. Magic Magic Beans Beans 7. 7. Uppers Uppers 8. 8. Blue Blue Bennies Bennies Dr. Dr. Bethany Bethany Bovary Bovary 9. 9. Yellowjackets Yellowjackets 10. 10. Saline Saline Infusion Infusion 11. 11. Sugar Sugar Pill Pill Oh Oh good good!! 1. 1. Strawberry Strawberry Dust Dust 2. 2. Paint Paint Thinner Thinner 3. 3. Black Black Beauties Beauties 4. 4. Opium Opium 5. 5. Bug Bug Dust Dust 6. 6. Magic Magic Beans Beans 7. 7. Uppers Uppers 8. 8. Blue Blue Bennies Bennies Dr. Dr. Bethany Bethany Bovary Bovary 9. 9. Yellowjackets Yellowjackets 10. 10. Saline Saline Infusion Infusion 11. 11. Sugar Sugar Pill Pill Now Now I I can can admire admire the the awesome awesome Tammo Tammo and and not not be be upset upset with with him him for taking the the last last pill!!
WhiteFang Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 I will like to take the magic beans then? 1. Strawberry Dust 2. Paint Thinner 3. Black Beauties 4. Opium 5. Bug Dust 6. Magic Beans Shinobu Shiroba 7. Uppers 8. Blue Bennies Dr. Bethany Bovary 9. Yellowjackets 10. Saline Infusion 11. Sugar Pill
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