Puerto Brico

[Mister Phes]

I have a question regarding the red awnings over the windows of the building on the right - exactly how was that achieved and are there any close-up pictures? I can't view the Brickshelf Gallery at the moment so I assume its being moderated.

[dunamis]

Wow, excellent work! Very nice!

[BaronSat]

I have a question regarding the red awnings over the windows of the building on the right - exactly how was that achieved and are there any close-up pictures? I can't view the Brickshelf Gallery at the moment so I assume its being moderated.

Hi Mr Phes,

Sorry but I must keep some secrets as I have projects for that model. :-|

But it's very simple and use hinge bricks.

My BS gallery seems ok but that happens sometimes to BS, I suppose it's some maintenance?!

[Mister Phes]

Can you divulge further by what you mean by "projects for that model". Are you planning on using it elsewhere?

[BaronSat]

Can you divulge further by what you mean by "projects for that model". Are you planning on using it elsewhere?

Mr Phes,

As some of you may have noticed I sale some of my MOCs. This one seems to be popular and because some people asked me I have planned to produce a small run (due to rarity of some parts) that I'll put on sale soon.

Here's the reason why I must keep a little of mystery about it. :-)

[Mister Phes]

I thought this might be the reason and I like the idea. You've created a Pirate LEGO set that has never existed before and there is a demand for it! So I say "Take that LEGO Company" and start paying attention to what's going on here.

I'd buy one one too, however I'm guessing it would be out of my price range.

[Brick Miner]

your planning on selling these ??? 8-

[BaronSat]

I thought this might be the reason and I like the idea. You've created a Pirate LEGO set that has never existed before and there is a demand for it! So I say "Take that LEGO Company" and start paying attention to what's going on here.

I think their reaction could be compared as the one that a giant dinosaur (let say a brontosaurus) bitten by a flee could have X-D

I'd buy one one too, however I'm guessing it would be out of my price range.

It's too soon for me to know the price but as this model is bigger and more complicated than my Valiant Hart tavern model...

[BaronSat]

your planning on selling these ??? 8-

[Jipay]

I found your prices rather expensive aswell, but I changed my mind when I started to work. Free time is the most expensive thing on earth, especially when you spend it building five time the same set and searching for bricks on BL. So in fact, they seem rather cheap now.

I also think that they might seem expensive because they do look a lot like what TLC would have come up with (the sailbarje is a good exemple, they were really close in term of design), so people tend to think a 200 piece set should cost the same price as a real Lego 200 pieces set.

[BaronSat]

I found your prices rather expensive aswell, but I changed my mind when I started to work. Free time is the most expensive thing on earth, especially when you spend it building five time the same set and searching for bricks on BL. So in fact, they seem rather cheap now.

Hi Jpay,

Right, nothing to add.

I also think that they might seem expensive because they do look a lot like what TLC would have come up with (the sailbarje is a good exemple, they were really close in term of design), so people tend to think a 200 piece set should cost the same price as a real Lego 200 pieces set.

And there's even some people that would like to pay it less...

[Jipay]

those must have a serious lack when it comes to economy...

[Brick Miner]

I also think that they might seem expensive because they do look a lot like what TLC would have come up with (the sailbarje is a good exemple, they were really close in term of design), so people tend to think a 200 piece set should cost the same price as a real Lego 200 pieces set.

good point jipay... doing things LEGO doesn't offer is probably best for selling MOCs. hmmm... makes me wonder if puerto brico is too much like ITP in regards to selling it.

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i had a theory on selling custom figs as opposed to whole sets... see, some SW and Ninja figs already go for 20-30 USD... AFOL are already used to seeing high prices on single figs, due to rarity. well, there is nothing rarer than custom figs... so charging 10-15 per custom wouldn't seem as outrageous. in fact it could seem pretty cheap for a rare fig you can only get from one seller ;-)

so, the next question... is there demand enough. or would AFOL (who are interested in customs) rather just make their own. it pretty much the same question with full sets too.

- BrickMiner

[BaronSat]

i had a theory on selling custom figs as opposed to whole sets... see, some SW and Ninja figs already go for 20-30 USD... AFOL are already used to seeing high prices on single figs, due to rarity. well, there is nothing rarer than custom figs... so charging 10-15 per custom wouldn't seem as outrageous. in fact it could seem pretty cheap for a rare fig you can only get from one seller ;-)

- BrickMiner

Custom figures are expensives but they are still affordable for most of collectors.

Imagine a soda can at $20, it's very expesnive but anybody can buy it.

Now imagine a Ferrari Testarossa at $100,000 (not that I'm saying that my MOC are as precious as Ferraris, it's just an example ;-) ) it's very cheap but only a few people can buy it.

Conclusion : if you want to sale items at high price, keep them under an average price of $50.

Like a custom figure for example.

Is there any economist around that could name that fact???......

.... just kidding if there's one, I'll call upon an malefic power to send him in hell. >:-)

[Jipay]

I will try not to answer then :-D

[Mister Phes]

good point jipay... doing things LEGO doesn't offer is probably best for selling MOCs. hmmm... makes me wonder if puerto brico is too much like ITP in regards to selling it.

Exactly what do you mean by that Brick Miner? As you can see there is quite a difference between them apperance wise.

so, the next question... is there demand enough. or would AFOL (who are interested in customs) rather just make their own. it pretty much the same question with full sets too.

Yes, I'm curious about the demand, given the price its likely to sell for. If I had a lot more money Puerto Brico is something I'd consider buying, however at this point on time I'm not in a financial situation to make expensive LEGO purchases.

[Norro]

I have a question regarding the red awnings over the windows of the building on the right - exactly how was that achieved and are there any close-up pictures? I can't view the Brickshelf Gallery at the moment so I assume its being moderated.

Without a better picture I can't be sure but I reckon it's this hinge setup, connected by their base to one of these with their studs holding the red 1x1 cones and angled down...

The model itself, as I think I've said elsewhere, is very good. The picture quality really brings its best out. I especially like the used boat sign.

God Bless,

Nathan

[BaronSat]

Without a better picture I can't be sure but I reckon it's this hinge setup, connected by their base to one of these with their studs holding the red 1x1 cones and angled down...

The model itself, as I think I've said elsewhere, is very good. The picture quality really brings its best out. I especially like the used boat sign.

God Bless,

Nathan

Hi Nathan,

Can't confirm that, otherwise I would have to kill you...

... it's not personnal it's just business *skull*

Eric the BaronFettonator

[Mister Phes]

But if you sold this MOC wouldn't that reveal the secret anyway? I assume you'd provide instructions unless you only send them completely built. But even then the owner would be able to examine how this was achieved and potentially reveal the secret online.

BaronSat, do you forsee this as a problem?

[BaronSat]

But if you sold this MOC wouldn't that reveal the secret anyway? I assume you'd provide instructions unless you only send them completely built. But even then the owner would be able to examine how this was achieved and potentially reveal the secret online.

BaronSat, do you forsee this as a problem?

No, that wouldn't be a problem (I was joking, I never killed anybody... or at least there's no proofs...) it's just about one detail.

If it was about the complete instructions that would. But my customers are honest people and understand what that would mean for me : a lost of time and money.

The Lego community is fair and we can trust each others*... ok there may be some bad guys but a very few.

Eric

* Yes I live in Sweet-cuttie-sugar-city where it's sunny everyday, the landscape is made of chocolate and all the people are nice, don't you?

[Mister Phes]

Yes, its perfectly understandable that you don't want to reveal your building secrets, and I think for the price your customers would want to help keep your secrets.

I know if I had a Puerto Brico I'd be thinking "Well I paid all that money, so if anyone else wants to know how this thing is built then they can cough up the cash too!"

[Norro]

The Lego community is fair and we can trust each others

I gotta be honest and say even if I'm wrong about the technique used, I doubt it is a totally new idea... The lego community has covered a lot of techniques all ready...

God Bless as always,

Nathan

[BaronSat]

The Lego community is fair and we can trust each others*... ok there may be some bad guys but a very few.

I gotta be honest and say even if I'm wrong about the technique used, I doubt it is a totally new idea... The lego community has covered a lot of techniques all ready...

God Bless as always,

Nathan

I didn't wrote that for you, meaning you were not an honest and nice guy because I'm sure you are. :-)

And I never said my technique was totally new, as there's so many builders that it's difficult to imagine something totally new.

I just say : "I keep the secret". That was a game with Mr Phes, you know just for fun. :-D

Eric

[Norro]

I didn't wrote that for you, meaning you were not an honest and nice guy because I'm sure you are. :-)

And I never said my technique was totally new, as there's so many builders that it's difficult to imagine something totally new.

I just say : "I keep the secret". That was a game with Mr Phes, you know just for fun. :-D

Eric

My comments were also just for fun X-D

God Bless,

Nathan

[Brick Miner]

Conclusion : if you want to sale items at high price, keep them under an average price of $50.

Like a custom figure for example.

good point, so do you sell custom figs ??? or are you trying to appeal to the upper-class of LEGO collecting with your "Ferrari Testarossa".

Exactly what do you mean by that Brick Miner? As you can see there is quite a difference between them apperance wise.

as jipay has already mentioned the sailbarge MOC sales will more likely be low due to the release of the official LEGO set 6210.

obviously, the closer an MOC is to an official LEGO set, the lower demand would be. and the farther away it is (the more rare, exotic, or unique) the higher demand would be... so my question was hypotheical... where is the line where a MOC is unique enough to create demand.

i just used puerto bricko as an example in the theory. im not saying its an question that has an answer... but it's a question that gets the mind thinking about these boundaries.

- BrickMiner