ZCerberus Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 I hope some people will switch to shake things up. Historical allegiance may or may not factor in. I also think if you were involved in the prior book your building scores may also factor into to "balancing" the sides. Say if 10 people tended to score in a certain range in book 1 and there are an even number of Kaliphlings on each side of the war, then 5 of each of those top 10ers would be randomly assigned to each side. this is why "random" is in quotes. It will be random with an eye on what might balance for a good competition.
Mike S Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 Finally, do you all think many people will be coming to the sands? I don't really think we will see too much of a member change up other than a few Avalonians going to Nocturnus. I'm sure Kaliphlin will get a percentage of any newcomers to Historica but I don't think we will see the guild trend differentiate as the guilds building styles will remain the same.
Nightstalker Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 I'm still not quite too sure about the whole civil war thing. While I get the whole mixing of builders, this could be rather difficult for new comers, especially if each challenge has builders switching up building styles. Just saying this from a newcomer position myself, I'm barely developing a Kaliphlin building style; possibly having to do that for several other regions may be good for those who have been here for awhile, but for those with limited parts it could be difficult. Just throwing my two cents out there; feel free to ignore
soccerkid6 Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 (edited) I hope some people will switch to shake things up. Historical allegiance may or may not factor in. I also think if you were involved in the prior book your building scores may also factor into to "balancing" the sides. Say if 10 people tended to score in a certain range in book 1 and there are an even number of Kaliphlings on each side of the war, then 5 of each of those top 10ers would be randomly assigned to each side. this is why "random" is in quotes. It will be random with an eye on what might balance for a good competition. I'm glad to hear this! I think the civil war in each guild is a neat idea in that it gives chance for people to work with different people as you said. Yet you can still stay loyal to what ever guild you are in if you so choose Edited August 2, 2013 by soccerkid6
ZCerberus Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 I'm still not quite too sure about the whole civil war thing. While I get the whole mixing of builders, this could be rather difficult for new comers, especially if each challenge has builders switching up building styles. Just saying this from a newcomer position myself, I'm barely developing a Kaliphlin building style; possibly having to do that for several other regions may be good for those who have been here for awhile, but for those with limited parts it could be difficult. Just throwing my two cents out there; feel free to ignore Remember there will be three challenge categories, so you can enter the smaller categories in the other guilds and still freebuild in Kaliphlin.
gedren_y Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) @Nightstalker: Or you could simply not enter the challenges in the guild you don't want to build in. The guild points should probably just start over, if it is agreed that the system stays. The Challenge guild points allotments would probably have to change, but the freebuild allotments probably could be left as they are. This is all contingent on having someone to do the scoring. Would this be the core group? Would they be able to commit the time and effort? Could the amounts awarded and how be made more transparent? As for the Nestlands: Sdair Zuuree says that the Minister is compiling a chronicle of the Nestlands' attempt at ending the Victor Revolword threat. There is talk of mounting a new quest to find the Egg of the Armored Eagle Goddess. Sdair hopes to be released from the Minister's service to join the quest. Minister Aturl Prndrn plans to make his trip to Petraea to meet with the major trading companies some time in the fall. Fleshmage Neord Bloodmane is to be appointed as the Nestlands Ambassador to Nocturnus as soon as the new leadership is determined. Several of the Nocturnian werewolves trading in Cobalt Vale have offered to help him set up his embassy. Icemaiden Ryssa Kend is planning a trip to Berigora. Escorting the false Peregrinus Causeway guard captain to face formal charges is a duty she will gladly perform. Sdair is still awaiting the return of his brothers from Mpya Stedor. There is also an enshrining ceremony for the armor of the Ghuin Nol High Guard fallen at the Battle of Queenscross. The High Ministry is expected to be in attendance. Edited August 2, 2013 by gedren_y
Nightstalker Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 I think I'll have to sit out on Book II. With my next college year coming up in the next couple of weeks, and my overall general inability to build "large" MOC's, I might be backing out of GoH for a long time. I'll probably attempt to put out one last MOC, but that'll probably be the last from me for a while.
robuko Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 I still think that Kaliphlin members who wish to join the council should represent a city/town. My main character doesn't fit too well though, as I lay no claim to city or mighty wealth. The territorial p1ssing contest that didn't happen in Kaliphlin is one of the attractive things in our guild I think. The PGTC makes no territorial claims either, although we would be happy to sit on the council as a representative of commerce. The Mad Monks do claim their isle but they won't leave it to sit in council and frankly they're mad, so they wouldn't be much use. It appears we have some sort of accidental claim over Qarkyr but we will not dispute if anyone else wants to represent that fair city. I think I'll have to sit out on Book II. With my next college year coming up in the next couple of weeks, and my overall general inability to build "large" MOC's, I might be backing out of GoH for a long time. I'll probably attempt to put out one last MOC, but that'll probably be the last from me for a while. The best bit of book II for me is the small size category for builds. The big builds are too intimidating and intensive to compete casually. I hope we will see you compete in the smaller size categories! I am sure building is a good way to come up with ideas for the college work. Oh and anyone who wants to transfer to Kaliphlin would be very welcome as far as I am concerned, even if they come with intentions of conquest - they will mellow out once they get here. If the proposed civil war comes to Kali, I will probably sit it out I guess. Conscientious objector.
ZCerberus Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 I think I'll have to sit out on Book II. With my next college year coming up in the next couple of weeks, and my overall general inability to build "large" MOC's, I might be backing out of GoH for a long time. I'll probably attempt to put out one last MOC, but that'll probably be the last from me for a while. Again, my response would be: Remember there will be three challenge categories, so you can enter the smaller categories in the other guilds and still freebuild in Kaliphlin. -- If the proposed civil war comes to Kali, I will probably sit it out I guess. Conscientious objector. My suggestion: get on the sotry team and get the conflict in Kaliphlin to be of a different nature. Maybe it isn't war that plagues Kaliphlin, maybe the struggle is economic or political or cultural.
Mike S Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 I think I'll have to sit out on Book II. With my next college year coming up in the next couple of weeks, and my overall general inability to build "large" MOC's, I might be backing out of GoH for a long time. I'll probably attempt to put out one last MOC, but that'll probably be the last from me for a while. There is no pressure to build or enter a challenge. If you don't feel like you have the time to enter then don't enter. But we sure would like to see more Historica builds from you even if they are only freebuilds.
Nightstalker Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 I'll see about it. I guess it depends on how "small" most of these challenges actually are.
Mike S Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 The territorial p1ssing contest that didn't happen in Kaliphlin is one of the attractive things in our guild I think. The PGTC makes no territorial claims either, although we would be happy to sit on the council as a representative of commerce. The Mad Monks do claim their isle but they won't leave it to sit in council and frankly they're mad, so they wouldn't be much use. It appears we have some sort of accidental claim over Qarkyr but we will not dispute if anyone else wants to represent that fair city. If I recall correctly there hasn't been any real territorial claims except for in Avalonia and I hope that isn't what came across as my proposition. I was thinking of more of a representation for a Kaliphlin city/town, something like the "adopt a highway" we have here in the USA. And if you didn't want to represent a city/town, you could always be the representation of a tribe/group of inhabitants as gedren is with his nestland clans. Anyway this all may become irrelevant as Book 2 begins.
SkaForHire Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 Who would have thought that the conflict would come outside of the game, I can see it now book II gets to Kaliphlin, all the Kaliphlinites sit it out to do their own thing while all the rest of the guilds take sides and fight an imaginary civil war of fake kaliphlinites... We could call it the "Imaginary War!" Haha... Actually I have an idea what our conflict could be without having a war. Since there already are a few civil wars in Kaliphlin at the moment, I think we could get away without having another when the story rolls on over to us.
Kai NRG Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 ...Since there already are a few civil wars in Kaliphlin at the moment, I think we could get away without having another when the story rolls on over to us. There are?
Mike S Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 There are? Well for one ever since Dugal was killed there has been wierd stuff going on in Eastgate although I don't recall ever reading of any open conflict. Remember you had to rescue Merith?
Maxim I Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 Well for one ever since Dugal was killed there has been wierd stuff going on in Eastgate although I don't recall ever reading of any open conflict. Remember you had to rescue Merith? Indeed, and my troops are still camping in front of Eastgate waiting till we have the order to take over that city
SkaForHire Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 That plot is coming, I swear! It is part of the common story arc. Spoiler (not sure how you do the HTML) It will be open conflict starting next week. Indeed, and my troops are still camping in front of Eastgate waiting till we have the order to take over that city Also, I didn't know your troops were there, thought they had to plunder Rowia first? haha
Nightstalker Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) Indeed, and my troops are still camping in front of Eastgate waiting till we have the order to take over that city I can send some samurai to assist your men if needed. On another note, I actually will be able to bring my pieces with me to college, which means I can actually participate in small scale challenges and freebuilds in book II Edited August 2, 2013 by Nightstalker
SkaForHire Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 Totally off topic -- If you are living in a Dorm, LEGO is actually a great way to meet girls. It is pretty much the only toy that is "cool" to most college age girls. I got a bunch of dates for leaving neat looking models out on the shelves. MOCS can serve as great icebreakers, of just throw up a Black Seas Barracuda, and you might land a long term relationship haha. That is what happened to me (Not the relationship I am in now, mind you.) Now back to your regularly scheduled program. I can send some samurai to assist your men if needed. On another note, I actually will be able to bring my pieces with me to college, which means I can actually participate in small scale challenges and freebuilds in book II
Nightstalker Posted August 3, 2013 Posted August 3, 2013 Totally off topic -- If you are living in a Dorm, LEGO is actually a great way to meet girls. It is pretty much the only toy that is "cool" to most college age girls. I got a bunch of dates for leaving neat looking models out on the shelves. MOCS can serve as great icebreakers, of just throw up a Black Seas Barracuda, and you might land a long term relationship haha. That is what happened to me (Not the relationship I am in now, mind you.) Now back to your regularly scheduled program. *facepalm* I'm sorry I just have to laugh at that. Cool story
SkaForHire Posted August 3, 2013 Posted August 3, 2013 Hey Kaliphlin is not only about building, it is about the life experiences.
Infernum Posted August 3, 2013 Posted August 3, 2013 Totally off topic Ha, ha, I'll remember that when I'm in college. That's a long ways off.
Captain BeerBeard Posted August 3, 2013 Posted August 3, 2013 So what does this guild think of having a new leader named Zakon GoldBlade?
Legonardo Posted August 3, 2013 Posted August 3, 2013 Totally off topic -- If you are living in a Dorm, LEGO is actually a great way to meet girls. It is pretty much the only toy that is "cool" to most college age girls. I got a bunch of dates for leaving neat looking models out on the shelves. MOCS can serve as great icebreakers, of just throw up a Black Seas Barracuda, and you might land a long term relationship haha. That is what happened to me (Not the relationship I am in now, mind you.) Now back to your regularly scheduled program. I like it. I don't plan on parting with my lego, especially now knowing what a catch it could potentially land.
Maxim I Posted August 3, 2013 Posted August 3, 2013 So what does this guild think of having a new leader named Zakon GoldBlade? The I.A.M.S. would find it a very interesting idea (as Zakon GoldBlade is on Kaliphlin soil then without the "safe pass"-guarantee of a celebration or whatever) However, I think I can speak in name of most Kaliphlin lords on this one, as a merchant, I fear that having Zakon Goldblade as a major Kaliphlin character will kill our excellent relations we have with other people
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