Scorpiox Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 I didn't say it. You said it and claimed it was my plan. Therefore, you said it My idea, which I clearly explained at the time, was to start a vote for someone in the not-so-active townie area, since I figured there would be a better chance to round up some scum in that net. That is to say, NOT RANDOM. And from there, start a vote. After you start a vote, you watch people's reactions. Who jumps on the vote, who doesn't. If you have two or three lynch candidates, you can see who groups together. It's likely that a member of town will be lynched, but on subsequent days, as we take the scum out, we have this vote to look at and consider, making the first vote of use to us in the long run. When we all pile on the same player for flimsy reasons, not only are we likely to take out one of our own (RANDOMLY), but the vote will be near meaningless since everyone went the same way. In years of EB games movies, only once has the day one lynch been successful. Therefore, long term thinking is important. Got it? Aah, it appears I misunderstood you, you weren't saying it was my idea, simply that I mistook your plan for a fictional one. No harm done. Now I understand that you're thinking ahead, sorry, people might as well call me Simon the Misinterperateman.
badboytje88 Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 Wait, so you're saying you want to get rid of outspoken criminals? What kind of logic is that? Mister egghead, you need to read my comment above in which I said it was never my intention to get him convicted. Thank you. Honestly, that's insane. But okay, you said you didn't have the intention to covict him. It's basically good to accuse many people, but it's never good to jump on conclusions. And if you accuse someone with few reason, don't be surprised if someone else defends him. In fact, those who don't defend him are more likely to be scum, as the scum would see the accusation and wait for it to form a bandwagon, in case the Creeper is town, of course. We have to work together, we should all together discuss our suspects. And if you vote for the Creeper, who I don't think should be convicted, I state why I think he shouldn't be convicted, as I try to avoid a wrongful conviction, as it would only be useful for the scum. I don't know him much, yes, but I see he's active, and I don't want an active player to die although he's no more suspect than a less active player. My only intention in voting for Mr Creeper was to get reactions from others. Which might or might not turn out to be helpful tomorrow. Hopping on the bandwagon does no one any good, unless it's almost certain that person is scum.
CMP Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 Oh, jeez. This is the most chaotic Day One yet... Okay...so from what I've read (again), the Riddler's being voted on for asking suspicious questions about Baby Doll. I can kinda see where people are coming from on that. But the the fact that she hasn't really answered him, that can sort of be challenged. Thing is, I can also see why she doesn't want to give details of her role. The Creeper's plan (though it's pretty much fallen apart) did pretty much make sense, and though he is rather outspoken, I think he's just being a very active criminal. I do disagree with him on the point of the Riddler, though. Although he's probably right about people jumping on the bandwagon to not look suspicious and really have no idea about the reasons for lynching him, I still think the basis of the argument, him asking details of Baby Doll's role, the basics of which she's repeated at least 3 times, is still coming against him. However. I'm not going to be the one who votes him out. Maybe you can call me crazy, but I think he was just being foolishly curious about Baby Doll's role. You can call me unhelpful, but my vote will stand. The Riddler hasn't given any other indication of him being suspicious in my mind. Still, though I'm not voting for you - curiousity may have killed the Riddler.
Brickdoctor Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 Why do you guys have to talk so much when I'm asleep? Honestly, I don't think we have that much of a case against anyone. Right now, it's between an unhelpful person who made an elementary mistake to garner penalty votes or a fairly active person who might have just asked too many questions. Normally, I would prefer to vote for the former, because it's the safer lynch. (if he ended up being a Townie, it could still be a useful lynch) However, in this case, I think the case against the latter is a bit stronger, since I've seen enough of his talking to get a general idea of what he's trying to accomplish in this situation (which to me seems to be to try to be an active Townie leader [possibly] who can coordinate the Night Actions of other players) and seen what he did to cause Baby Doll to accuse him. It's still too early to truly judge well just how unhelpful the apparently unhelpful players really are. In that light, I will Vote: The Riddler (sok117)
Alopex Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 So much confusion... :wacko: I don't really know who to vote for, since theres nobody who we have proof of being a traitor... However the Riddler is probably the most suspicious, so I shall: Vote: The Riddler (sok117)
Tamamono Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 Well, that's that. Nygma's fate has been sealed. It doesn't matter now, so I might as well jut go ahead and Vote: Riddler (sok117) Let's hope we caught ourselves an agent.
Brickdoctor Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 I don't really know who to vote for, since theres nobody who we have proof of being a traitor If it's 'proof' you're waiting for, I'm afraid you're going to be stuck voting like this for the majority of the situation. The closest thing there is to 'proof' of scum is a Cop result, and those can be faked.
def Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 Oh, jeez. This is the most chaotic Day One yet... Okay...so from what I've read (again), the Riddler's being voted on for asking suspicious questions about Baby Doll. I can kinda see where people are coming from on that. But the the fact that she hasn't really answered him, that can sort of be challenged. Thing is, I can also see why she doesn't want to give details of her role. The Creeper's plan (though it's pretty much fallen apart) did pretty much make sense, and though he is rather outspoken, I think he's just being a very active criminal. I do disagree with him on the point of the Riddler, though. Although he's probably right about people jumping on the bandwagon to not look suspicious and really have no idea about the reasons for lynching him, I still think the basis of the argument, him asking details of Baby Doll's role, the basics of which she's repeated at least 3 times, is still coming against him. However. I'm not going to be the one who votes him out. Maybe you can call me crazy, but I think he was just being foolishly curious about Baby Doll's role. You can call me unhelpful, but my vote will stand. The Riddler hasn't given any other indication of him being suspicious in my mind. Still, though I'm not voting for you - curiousity may have killed the Riddler. Your posts were exactly what I was looking for day one. Helpful-ish without saying anything in particular. Then, when the vote comes around, you 'aren't convinced' so if Riddler turns up town, you have that in your pocket for later (ie. "I didn't bandwagon him."). It could just be a coincidence, but I think you're just broadcasting your behavior too clearly (and I've been playing scum too much recently ). I think you're scum. Unvote: Killer Croc (Jedianakin) Vote: Catwoman (Callmepie) I'm on the fence about the Riddler, but I think there's a good chance if he's one of us that Catwoman isn't.
ADHO15 Posted November 12, 2011 Author Posted November 12, 2011 ? We'll get penalty votes for not voting, not for reaching a majority vote... I think. If we don't reach majority, I'm assuming top vote gets it. Don't know though. The Demonic Duo running this show didn't clarify, and it's kind of confusing to have both a majority rule and a mandatory vote rule. Ideally one or the other would be used. But the Joker's crazy, so why not just go with it Oh Creeper, you're too kind! Ha ha! There is no penalty for not coming to a consensus and leaving the voting tied, just that the lynch will be random. Current vote tally The Riddler (sok117): 14 - KielDaMan, Masked Builder, Brickdoctor, Bob_, Rumble Strike, Captain Tamamono, Alopex, JediAnakin, Nightshroud99, Scorpiox, Capt. Redblade, Peanuts, Professor Flitwick, K-nut Killer Croc (JediAnakin): 6 - Oky, 5 penalty votes Man-Bat (Sirius Black): 1 - CallMePieOrDie The Creeper (def): 1 - badboytje88 Catwoman (CallMePieOrDie): 1 - def Clayface (WhiteFang): 1 - sok117 Yet to vote: WhiteFang, Mrlegoninja, Sirius Black, Fred Fred Burger, Jedi master Brick
def Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 Oh Creeper, you're too kind! Ha ha! There is no penalty for not coming to a consensus and leaving the voting tied, just that the lynch will be random. Well, there are 24 of us. If nine vote for one, eight for the next, and seven for the last, is it safe to assume the one with nine will get it, or will the lynchee be chosen at random from those three
ADHO15 Posted November 12, 2011 Author Posted November 12, 2011 Well, there are 24 of us. If nine vote for one, eight for the next, and seven for the last, is it safe to assume the one with nine will get it, or will the lynchee be chosen at random from those three That's correct: the person with nine votes will be lynched. If three people are tied with eight votes each, I will pick one at random and it is likely you'll never see them again!
Peanuts Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 Your posts were exactly what I was looking for day one. Helpful-ish without saying anything in particular. Then, when the vote comes around, you 'aren't convinced' so if Riddler turns up town, you have that in your pocket for later (ie. "I didn't bandwagon him."). It could just be a coincidence, but I think you're just broadcasting your behavior too clearly (and I've been playing scum too much recently ). I think you're scum. Unvote: Killer Croc (Jedianakin) Vote: Catwoman (Callmepie) I'm on the fence about the Riddler, but I think there's a good chance if he's one of us that Catwoman isn't. That's interesting, considering she was the second one to jump on the Ventriloquist after the Riddler brought him up, she was the second one to jump on Ra's after the Ventriloquist brought him up, and she was the second one to "split the votes" after you suggested so. She never really came up with anything, but was always fast to support plans which involved voting or convicting. I'm inclined to vote for her, but I'll give it some thought. For now, I unvote: Riddler (Sok).
badboytje88 Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 I too unvote: the Creeper (def) As I said I don't suspect him, just wanted to get some reactions. There are others who are way more interesting to vote for. I need to think this through.
Tamamono Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 Your posts were exactly what I was looking for day one. Helpful-ish without saying anything in particular. Then, when the vote comes around, you 'aren't convinced' so if Riddler turns up town, you have that in your pocket for later (ie. "I didn't bandwagon him."). It could just be a coincidence, but I think you're just broadcasting your behavior too clearly (and I've been playing scum too much recently ). I think you're scum. Unvote: Killer Croc (Jedianakin) Vote: Catwoman (Callmepie) I'm on the fence about the Riddler, but I think there's a good chance if he's one of us that Catwoman isn't. You know, I've been pretty suspicious of her as well. She seems ready to go with just about any herd (as Crane said, she followed the Riddler about Wesker and she followed Music Meister about Ra's), which is not a sign of a good criminal. I'm going to keep my vote where it is for now, but I'll definitely think about voting for her later.
TheBoyWonder Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 I agree. I will not unvote Riddler today, but if he turns out town, and BabyDoll does also, It would be a good move to follow her actions.
Fred Fred Burger Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 Vote: Riddler (sok117) The case against him isn't as strong as I'd like it to be, but I feel he's the best suspect among those who have been accused today.
badboytje88 Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 You know, I've been pretty suspicious of her as well. She seems ready to go with just about any herd. She's not the only one... Vote: Riddler (sok117) The case against him isn't as strong as I'd like it to be, but I feel he's the best suspect among those who have been accused today. Who are you?
Tamamono Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 Vote: Riddler (sok117) The case against him isn't as strong as I'd like it to be, but I feel he's the best suspect among those who have been accused today. Where have you been all day, Ra's? She's not the only one... What are you implying, Ivy? The fact that I'm open to ideas doesn't make me a sheep.
Mrlegoninja Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 Wow. I missed a lot, but the case against the Riddler is very strong. Vote: The Riddler (Sok117)
badboytje88 Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 What are you implying, Ivy? The fact that I'm open to ideas doesn't make me a sheep. I'm just implying that she is not the only sheep in the herd. Sjees no need to take it personal
Peanuts Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 Wow. I missed a lot, but the case against the Riddler is very strong. Vote: The Riddler (Sok117) It's not. Are you just a sheep following the flock, or are you scum? Because you can't have thought about that decision much, otherwise you'd know it's not strong. There rarely is a strong case on day one at all. I can tolerate people voting for him because they don't know what else to do, but frankly, saying the case was strong is wrong.
Brickdoctor Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 It's not. Are you just a sheep following the flock, or are you scum? Because you can't have thought about that decision much, otherwise you'd know it's not strong. There rarely is a strong case on day one at all. I can tolerate people voting for him because they don't know what else to do, but frankly, saying the case was strong is wrong. Indeed. Neither amount of votes nor amount of sheep supporting a case make it strong.
Tamamono Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 I'm just implying that she is not the only sheep in the herd. Sjees no need to take it personal Ah, I see. Sorry for immediately assuming the worst. It's not. Are you just a sheep following the flock, or are you scum? Because you can't have thought about that decision much, otherwise you'd know it's not strong. There rarely is a strong case on day one at all. I can tolerate people voting for him because they don't know what else to do, but frankly, saying the case was strong is wrong. The more I look at what he says, the more he seems like scum to me. First he says that we shouldn't vote people off because of behavior, and then he jumps on the Riddler bandwagon with no explanation at all. Hush, would you like to explain your scummy behavior?
Mrlegoninja Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 I'm just saying that compared to everyone else being voted for, he is most likely to be the suspect. Compared to the amount of evidence we have (which is none) it is a terrible case. But like I said before, it is a blind vote, and someone has to go. And he is the top suspect. Perhaps the case isn't that strong, but still, I'll maintain my vote.
Brickdoctor Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 Then why did you say the case was strong in the first place? Just because a case is stronger than all the other cases against current suspects doesn't make it a strong case. If I have three apples, and two are rotten and one is all soft and bruised, the soft, bruised apple is better than the two rotten ones, but it's still not a good apple.
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