Skipper Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 At the moment, my vote is leaning towards Ms. Darth. She comes up with amazing plans to capture scum, then warns them explicitly of the presence and sometime even the nature of the "trick" in public. If she were really trying to catch scum (and not just appear so) what is the point of this? I am also somewhat interested in the relationship between Mrs. Darth and Sir Carrot. If we pretend for a moment that they are both mafia, than their initial "conflict" might be to publicly distance themselves and take suspicion away from one or the other. On another note: Wait! I have cracked it!" "I'm still sad that some have suspected me as witchbreed, so to prove that I am actually a nice little whipping boy, I will share the information of what it says if anyone is interested." How the. Only five pieces have been shared, and from my own efforts to begin laying these out I can tell you we're missing a lot. But since you say you have 'em all together, let's see it.
Piratedave84 Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 To follow up on a previous statement and seeing that the discussion has progressed without him I Vote: Gilly Wooks (Gingerwookie)
Darkdragon Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 Wait, I missed the eclairs? I did happen to find a piece of the strange puzzle, and I'm not sure if sharing is right or not but we'll never know what it is unless everyone shows what they have. Right? So here is my piece of the great puzzle, I hope it is helpful to town. For right now, I will Vote: Flanagan, The Whipping Boy (Flare) because he is saying things, just enough to not be the "unhelpful quite people". However, he says nothing of substance. I look forward to hearing his defense.
Flare Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 Flanagan told us he cracked the paper puzzle..but never revealed it. Plus, he took Franklin side accusing the Wife of D. Why? *sniffle* "You don't have to be so hard on me. I said that I would reveal what it says if anyone was interested. But everyone just ignored me! Why should I share it if people don't even have the time to ask a poor abused child a simple question?"
Chromeknight Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 ...Why are you voting for me then? Oh, to kill me! Umm, well the only reasons you have so far are flawed ones, as this is my first time having to deal with Witchbreeds, and you see, I was confused, they DO know who each other are, which means we are doomed! Also, for those who voted for me... I am sure you would not want to do to anyone that doesn't deserve it, unlike those Witchbreed SCUM! I guess that sounds reasonable enough. And I don't want to be unreasonable. But I also don't want to be seen as flip-floppy or vote jumpy. So I'm going to hold off my unvote until you suggest who you think might be scum. It's nice of you to offer apologies to WifeofDarth and SirCarrot. Are you so sure they are both in the clear? what have each said specifically to clear themselves. From my point of view, SirCarrot has done more, but I'm still uncertain... There is still 30+ hours of day to go. Plenty of time to poke people.
The_Customizer Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 I guess that sounds reasonable enough. And I don't want to be unreasonable. But I also don't want to be seen as flip-floppy or vote jumpy. So I'm going to hold off my unvote until you suggest who you think might be scum. It's nice of you to offer apologies to WifeofDarth and SirCarrot. Are you so sure they are both in the clear? what have each said specifically to clear themselves. From my point of view, SirCarrot has done more, but I'm still uncertain... There is still 30+ hours of day to go. Plenty of time to poke people. Well, like I said, other than my confusion, there hasn't really been much against me, has there? Maybe i missed something i didn't know about....
Chromeknight Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 Well, like I said, other than my confusion, there hasn't really been much against me, has there? Maybe i missed something i didn't know about.... And like I said, I can see that there isn't. But until I have a better target, my dot is on you. Not because I dislike you or I'm dead set against you, just because I've already rolled the dice and poked someone. If you want the dot to move, poke someone yourself, perhaps you'll stir up a discrepancy that makes them a valid choice.
Chromeknight Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 Christos Knight, after finishing one of Franklin's eclairs that he took, but left in the sun all day is feeling all talkative. Perhaps the cream has fermented slightly. Perhaps it's just the two bottles of wine. Perhaps he's just a competitive bastard who thinks this is all a game... Spotting scum 101: Spotting scum takes work. Only dumb scum fall for easy tricks. You might think you can spot one because they don't know something obvious, or because someone says "only a scum would do that" and they do it... no. The way to spot them is when they reveal they know something they shouldn't reasonably know. Of course, what you think is unreasonable, may in fact be reasonable. for every argument there is an equal and valid counterargument (Newton's law of conversational inertia). Which brings us back to the talking. Lots of talking. The more we get the scum to talk, the more chance we have of catching them out. That's why the quiet ones get picked on. (and why "I've got a life, I can't play all the time" is understood, but doesn't completely excuse a person). You can tell someone is worried if they've got a bunch on unanswered questions directed at them. So ask questions. especially questions like 'how do you know that?' How do I know to ask that question? I'm not just a pretty face you know. I do my share of reading
Cecilie Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 I had a minion prepare a list. there are six people who have only spoken twice in the last 32 hours. Skip Pudding (once!), Dragus, Pirelly Dabito, Gilly Wooks, Bisky Partsy, and my own Master Hale. Odds are the is a witchbreed among that list. Let's see who leaps up to defend themselves... Yes, that looks like the list I had in mind. And who jumped out first to "defend" themselves? Pirelly Dabito. He didn't exactly start a defense, which was wise, he instead tried to seem more helpful, by accusing a couple of people from that list. I'd say he's trying to hide the fact that he's scum and not really trying to help us. Therefore, I'll Vote: Pirelly Dabito (Piratedave84). Do you have anything to say for yourself?
Wuntin Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 I have assembled the puzzle pieces revealed so far: The visible text looks like: Th__ _re four _f t__ Witchbreed With just a little bit of imagination, it seems plausible that the complete message is: There are four of the Witchbreed I guess it doesn't help much today, but in a few days it may be good to know whether there's one or two witchbreed left. Assuming, of course, that the message is correct and the witchbreed - despite their name - cannot actually breed. Hi, I'm selling these fine leather jackets...
The_Customizer Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 I think you are spot on with what the puzzle pieces mean... Oh, and how much for one of those fine leather jackets?
Tachyon Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 I have assembled the puzzle pieces revealed so far: The visible text looks like: Th__ _re four _f t__ Witchbreed With just a little bit of imagination, it seems plausible that the complete message is: There are four of the Witchbreed I guess it doesn't help much today, but in a few days it may be good to know whether there's one or two witchbreed left. Assuming, of course, that the message is correct and the witchbreed - despite their name - cannot actually breed. Hi, I'm selling these fine leather jackets... I have a theory that only townies recieved the puzzle pieces as there are only twelve pieces but 16 players. So if my theory is correct,those without pieces are scum. Oh yeah, i forgot i also baked cookies I have a theory that only townies recieved the puzzle pieces as there are only twelve pieces but 16 players. So if my theory is correct,those without pieces are scum. Oh yeah, i forgot i also baked cookies Here they are So far the Cuslo Mizzle, Christos Knight, Sir Carrots, Skip Pudding,Dragus and I have revealed our pieces
def Posted November 17, 2011 Author Posted November 17, 2011 Vote Tally The Wife of Darth (darthnihilius) 2 : fhomess, flare, Franklin Holmes (Fhomess) 1 : darthnihilius Zam Kuric (Zakura) 4: penalty x 4 Cuslo Mizzle (The customizer) 2 : Chromeknight, yumiyoshi Skip Pudding,(Skipper) 1 : Scubacarrot Gilly Wooks (Gingerwookie) 1 : Piratedave Flanagan, The Whipping Boy (Flare) 1 : Darkdragon Pirelly Dabito (Piratedave84) 1 : Cecile
Fred Daniel Yam Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 I found this curious little piece on the way to the convent:
Tachyon Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 Good, there's another piece found.Anyway i'm going to vote Wife Of Darth earlier as she said she didn't have a puzzle piece and she's trying to be extremely friendly to the town for a normal townie. Vote: The Wife Of Darth (darthnihilus)
def Posted November 17, 2011 Author Posted November 17, 2011 Good, there's another piece found.Anyway i'm going to vote Wife Of Darth earlier as she said she didn't have a puzzle piece and she's trying to be extremely friendly to the town for a normal townie. Vote: The Wife Of Darth (darthnihilus) Please bold your votes. When I have to tally them, it's easy to miss them. In the future, unbolded votes won't be counted Vote Tally The Wife of Darth (darthnihilius) 3 : fhomess, flare, zakura Franklin Holmes (Fhomess) 1 : darthnihilius Zam Kuric (Zakura) 4: penalty x 4 Cuslo Mizzle (The customizer) 2 : Chromeknight, yumiyoshi Skip Pudding,(Skipper) 1 : Scubacarrot Gilly Wooks (Gingerwookie) 1 : Piratedave Flanagan, The Whipping Boy (Flare) 1 : Darkdragon Pirelly Dabito (Piratedave84) 1 : Cecile
yumiyoshi Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 See? My husband is a clear man. He cracked the code and revealed it. He didn't made games as Flanagan. And I really like the theory that only townies got the piece but... maybe someone didn't recieved it on the first night and we'll have to wait. My old country man always said that Not always scum know each others...sometimes they just met by chance and fall in love. So let's not just assume there's a coalition. Still, if they fall in love and marry, I can sell them nice clothes! C-Knight: calling my ideas on you irrational doesn't really do better. It's a weak reply and I still don't understand something about you. Is that so easy to accuse many people? why don't thinking a little more and then revealing your thoughts? Wait! I said " C. Knight " but I was thinking about the one we both voted as Witchbreed: Cuzlo! Sorry for the mistake!!!!!!!
Fred Daniel Yam Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 I really have nothing to go on but for the meantime I will vote the Wife of Darth because 1) She is trying too hard to prove herself a townie and 2) She doesn't have a piece of this mysterious puzzle. Vote: Wife of Darth (darthnihilous)
Wuntin Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 I have a theory that only townies recieved the puzzle pieces as there are only twelve pieces but 16 players. So if my theory is correct,those without pieces are scum. An interesting theory, and I'll admit I've entertained thoughts in the same direction. There are, however, two problems with this theory: - There are 17 of us, not 16. Less four, that's thirteen townies. Looking at the puzzle, I would be very surprised if there weren't twelve pieces. The numbers don't add up. - If it were this easy and all pieces were revealed, what would happen? The five people without pieces would be unable to convince us not to lynch them and the town would only need to wait four (or five?) days to be rid of all the witchbreed. Yes, they would kill a townie per night, but that's not enough for them to win - they need townies to be lynched as well. Ignoring our dear King's exercises with the abacus, what's the next thing to happen after Zam proposed his theory? I found this curious little piece on the way to the convent: You held on to your piece this long; I wonder what made you decide to reveal it. Did you think we would accept this theory as truth and saw an easy way to "prove" yourself a townie? I think you did. Vote: Voltana Panana (volcanicpanik). This just in! Fancy shirts from a far away place. I believe they're called Ha'wayan shirts.
Fred Daniel Yam Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 No, I saw it because I thought only townies had pieces and didn't want to be marked by the Witchbreed, secondly, having a piece of the puzzle doesn't necessarily mean you are a townie, it is not a guaranteed townie pass. Anyone could have found a piece. I think it is unfair you are leaping at anyone's fishiness in your eyes when we're all grasping at straws.
Tachyon Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 I just came up with an idea improving my theory. You know how there are 17 players but only 12 pieces in the puzzle, perhaps 4 of the 5 which did not received a piece are scum and the remaining 1 is a third party role such as serial killer Who want's some freshly baked from the bakery? Who want's some freshly baked bread from the bakery?
Skipper Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 Great job on the puzzle Wully Tintin. For now, I'm going to Vote: Flanagan (Flare). He has both said nothing constructive and not shown the finished puzzle claiming that no one asked to see right after I asked. Now, I'm off to "work."
Cecilie Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 Votes seem to be flying around all over the place, and nobody seems to bother much with defending themselves . Maybe we need to stop spreading the votes so much, and focus on the ones with the most suspicious behavior. (Yes, easier said than done, I know...) - If it were this easy and all pieces were revealed, what would happen? The five people without pieces would be unable to convince us not to lynch them and the town would only need to wait four (or five?) days to be rid of all the witchbreed. Yes, they would kill a townie per night, but that's not enough for them to win - they need townies to be lynched as well. This is the main reason why the theory of the puzzle pieces being an indicator of who's town and who's scum is complete nonsense. Then all the the townies could just present their puzzle pieces on day 1, and we would know all the scum. I'm afraid it's not going to be quite as easy. It would be wise not to get sidetracked by this, giving the scum more opportunities to hide in all the confusion.
Darth Nihilus Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 Votes seem to be flying around all over the place, and nobody seems to bother much with defending themselves . Maybe we need to stop spreading the votes so much, and focus on the ones with the most suspicious behavior. (Yes, easier said than done, I know...) This is the main reason why the theory of the puzzle pieces being an indicator of who's town and who's scum is complete nonsense. Then all the the townies could just present their puzzle pieces on day 1, and we would know all the scum. I'm afraid it's not going to be quite as easy. It would be wise not to get sidetracked by this, giving the scum more opportunities to hide in all the confusion. I agree both ways. Someohow I don't think I'm living tonight, but howsabout I tell you who I am? That was my last resort, and I guess I'll have to go with it. If all of you are listening, here goes. This might stop the Town from lynching an innocent (me), but it almost certainly means death for me by the Scum. Okay, I've been beating around the bush a bit. If you all want to know, I'm the Town Roleblocker. If I can find the Godfather, I might be able to block them, and then no kill. That's why I've been trying to catch a Scum, to see who jumps up and defends them, or who waits and just jumps on the bandwagon. That would narrow the possibilities, and then I could make an educated guess as to who to block. So, if I could just find that friggin' Godfather, that would be very helpful.
Wuntin Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 No, I saw it because I thought only townies had pieces You saw what? If you meant "revealed", that would make more sense. "No, I revealed it because I thought only townies had pieces" Yes, that statement by itself would have convinced me to look elsewhere for now. Unfortunately, you continued speaking. and didn't want to be marked by the Witchbreed What does "marked by the Witchbreed" mean? secondly, having a piece of the puzzle doesn't necessarily mean you are a townie, it is not a guaranteed townie pass. Anyone could have found a piece. Yes, that is my point. Anyone can have a piece of the puzzle - including the witchbreed. Waving yours around when there's a chance people will believe only townies have them, however... I think it is unfair you are leaping at anyone's fishiness in your eyes when we're all grasping at straws. Yes, we are all grasping at straws. Some of us are acting on the straws that our eyes deem to have the wrong colour. What would you rather have us do? Nothing? Fall into mindless sheep mode behind somebody else? I know who'd love that. I'm sorry, your response has not convinced me that you are not witchbreed. Fine riding crops. Genuine leather; superb craftsmanship. On sale today!
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