TheBoyWonder Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 Why am I scum? Because the Creeps says so? Whatever he says is law apparently, he is a demigod to you folks; and perhaps rightly so as he has been correct about almost everyone... But, perchance that this is HIS plan. He purposely votes out a couple of his scummy teammates; they even agree. He becomes a trusted source who can do no wrong. So people believe what he says. However, let us reflect on yesterdays discussion. Scarecrow, a now confirmed townie, was still suspicious of the Creeps, and what happens? He dies in the night!!! I'm guessing that Creeper sent Man-Bat (either vigilante or scum killer) to kill scarecrow. Creeper has you all wrapped around his finger, and only need to say the word and you will kill for him. Right, All The Red is him being rude, and saying the exact same thing as pieman virtually. And your theory is very wrong. Remember Ventriloquist? A scumbag, killed in the night. The Scum would not kill their own to get 1 trusted. Think, the Scum's daykiller, and blocker have been killed because of Creeps. They would not lose 2 for one.
Tamamono Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 Where is all this 'Zsasz is our last scum' crap coming from? All of us have two night abilities, so it would be only fair for there to be six scum to begin with. In addition to that, there has only been 1 scum kill. Bane protected Riddler on Night 1, but there was no day-kill yesterday and there was no day-kill today, so that means that there was probably a conversion at some point. Zsasz might be our second-to-last, but I highly doubt that he's the last. But, perchance that this is HIS plan. He purposely votes out a couple of his scummy teammates; they even agree. He becomes a trusted source who can do no wrong. So people believe what he says. However, let us reflect on yesterdays discussion. Scarecrow, a now confirmed townie, was still suspicious of the Creeps, and what happens? He dies in the night!!! I'm guessing that Creeper sent Man-Bat (either vigilante or scum killer) to kill scarecrow. Creeper has you all wrapped around his finger, and only need to say the word and you will kill for him. If he were scum, then he wouldn't have made sure that 4 scum died! Catwoman, Deadshot, Ventriloquist, and Simon, they were all scum! Do you really think four scum would just say, "Yeah, please kill me so you can put yourself in a good position!" And whoever killed Crane also killed Ventriloquist (who, in case you forgot, was scum). I don't even think the scum are allowed to kill each other with night kills. Besides, Creeps publicly said yesterday that he was going to get the vig to kill Scarecrow. Get your story straight.
Alopex Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 4 scummates killed to gain trust? Rather unlikely theory...
Oky Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 Dear criminals, It has come to my attention today that one of our criminal cohorts, the one and only king of the cold, the sultan of shiver himself, Mr. Freeze, has never been given the chance to learn his own native language Isn't this, my friends, the real crime? That one such as this could have fallen through the cracks of Gotham's education system. I will be taking up a collection dish in order to accumulate enough funds to send dear Mr. Freeze to a remedial high school English class. Please give generously, won't you? Go back to school? NEVER! Maybe some of my English memory was frozen as a result of my accident. I really must be uneducated as I have no clue what you are going on about again. Where is all this 'Zsasz is our last scum' crap coming from? Nobody said he was; the number of dead agents simply suggests that we're closing in on the last one. If he were scum, then he wouldn't have made sure that 4 scum died! Catwoman, Deadshot, Ventriloquist, and Simon, they were all scum! Do you really think four scum would just say, "Yeah, please kill me so you can put yourself in a good position!" Agreed. Trying to make the Creeper look like scum in order to distract from his own scumminess is indeed a pathetic response. If Zsasz wasn't suspicious before, he certainly is now.
Nightshroud99 Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 Right, All The Red is him being rude, and saying the exact same thing as pieman virtually. And your theory is very wrong. Remember Ventriloquist? A scumbag, killed in the night. The Scum would not kill their own to get 1 trusted. Think, the Scum's daykiller, and blocker have been killed because of Creeps. They would not lose 2 for one. You have an odd idea of what is rude, personally I believe the Creeper has been volatile this entire game time. What between calling out people for irrelevant grammar mistakes or just wanting to glorify his ego. I'm just pointing out facts; the fact is that all of you are following him. If he were scum, then he wouldn't have made sure that 4 scum died! Catwoman, Deadshot, Ventriloquist, and Simon, they were all scum! Do you really think four scum would just say, "Yeah, please kill me so you can put yourself in a good position!" It is actually a very clever plan and probably one that has not been seen before in eurobricks mafia Gotham City. And whoever killed Crane also killed Ventriloquist (who, in case you forgot, was scum). I don't even think the scum are allowed to kill each other with night kills. Besides, Creeps publicly said yesterday that he was going to get the vig to kill Scarecrow. Get your story straight. So Creeper used the vigilante to his advantage, I said that was a possibility.
Brickdoctor Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 I really must be uneducated as I have no clue what you are going on about again. I think it was because you asked for his reasoning behind the accusation, even though he clearly stated that it was because of a result of an investigation.
def Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 I am really not the type of person to make long discussions, I stay in the background waiting and thinking of my next move. So for one minute perhaps everyone could stop drinking the Creepers' Kool-aid and think!! Why am I scum? Because the Creeps says so? Whatever he says is law apparently, he is a demigod to you folks; and perhaps rightly so as he has been correct about almost everyone... But, perchance that this is HIS plan. He purposely votes out a couple of his scummy teammates; they even agree. He becomes a trusted source who can do no wrong. So people believe what he says. However, let us reflect on yesterdays discussion. Scarecrow, a now confirmed townie, was still suspicious of the Creeps, and what happens? He dies in the night!!! I'm guessing that Creeper sent Man-Bat (either vigilante or scum killer) to kill scarecrow. Creeper has you all wrapped around his finger, and only need to say the word and you will kill for him. Lets scry into the future and see what happens tomorrow. I'm confirmed town, Creeper says that perhaps his imaginary investigator was paranoid. and then nothing happens! Creeper will suggest another innocent to kill and perhaps use Man-bat again to kill at night. (I'm guessing it was Man-Bat that did the killings based on how the people were killed, similar to how Deadshot made his mark.) :roflmao: Once again, the only people getting offended at the Creeper are the scum. I realize you were all talking about me together, cursing my name, so it's easy to share the same language. Honestly, I find it hilarious that the scumbums have had their feelings hurt so much in this game situation. If having an investigation against you is not a reason to vote, I don't know what is. We had no evidence against Catwoman. I clearly stated it. We had strong circumstantial evidence against Deadshot. I clearly stated it. We had strong circumstantial evidence against the Ventriloquist. (I'm sure some of you who aren't Mr. Freeze see where this is going....) I clearly stated it. We had circumstantial evidence against the Pieman. I clearly stated it. We had no evidence against the Scarecrow. (Mr. Freeze is starting to clue in...) I clearly stated it. Today, we have evidence against you! The first time! I'm clearly stating it now! I'll come right out and say it. I killed Scarecrow. I killed four scum and one townie so far. And you think that's a scum ploy? Once again, like Deadshot, like the Pieman, it's great to lie and all, but at least make it a plausible one. For future reference when you're playing mafia games in Hell I'm going to be busy for a while, but if anyone wants to look through the last few days voting record and see how much Zsasz had been "drinking the Kool-aid," please do. It'll give us more to taunt him about Go back to school? NEVER! Maybe some of my English memory was frozen as a result of my accident. I really must be uneducated as I have no clue what you are going on about again. It's true! You have an odd idea of what is rude, personally I believe the Creeper has been volatile this entire game time. What between calling out people for irrelevant grammar mistakes or just wanting to glorify his ego. I'm just pointing out facts; the fact is that all of you are following him. It is actually a very clever plan and probably one that has not been seen before in eurobricks mafia Gotham City. So Creeper used the vigilante to his advantage, I said that was a possibility. 1. I don't think I have been calling people out for grammar mistakes. That's unpossible I have pointed out some people's fundamental misunderstanding of the meanings of words. That's different. 2. No, that's a moronic plan. Kill one of you own? Maybe. Kill four of them? That's Zsasz-level stupidity 3. If I were scum, I would just kill people myself, not use a vig. Think about it, Zsasz, think! Anyway, Zsasz, you missed the point in your defense. You got an agent reading. You're supposed to argue why it wasn't accurate (framed, lying investigator, etc), not call me the scumbum. I'm just the messenger. I'm afraid you fouled up your lie so much now, like Deadshot, nobody is going to believe you I guess there's nothing else to do except change those dirty diapers and bite the bullet. 24 hours have passed, so Vote: Mr. Zsasz/Nightshroud
Nightshroud99 Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 :roflmao: Once again, the only people getting offended at the Creeper are the scum. I realize you were all talking about me together, cursing my name, so it's easy to share the same language. Honestly, I find it hilarious that the scumbums have had their feelings hurt so much in this game situation. If having an investigation against you is not a reason to vote, I don't know what is. You hurt mah feelings We had no evidence against Catwoman. I clearly stated it. We had strong circumstantial evidence against Deadshot. I clearly stated it. We had strong circumstantial evidence against the Ventriloquist. (I'm sure some of you who aren't Mr. Freeze see where this is going....) I clearly stated it. We had circumstantial evidence against the Pieman. I clearly stated it. We had no evidence against the Scarecrow. (Mr. Freeze is starting to clue in...) I clearly stated it. Today, we have evidence against you! The first time! I'm clearly stating it now! Score!! The Creeper has caught another one!!! I'll come right out and say it. I killed Scarecrow. I killed four scum and one townie so far. And you think that's a scum ploy? Once again, like Deadshot, like the Pieman, it's great to lie and all, but at least make it a plausible one. For future reference when you're playing mafia games in Hell I'm going to be busy for a while, but if anyone wants to look through the last few days voting record and see how much Zsasz had been "drinking the Kool-aid," please do. It'll give us more to taunt him about I was thirsty, sheesh! It's true! 1. I don't think I have been calling people out for grammar mistakes. That's unpossible I have pointed out some people's fundamental misunderstanding of the meanings of words. That's different. 2. No, that's a moronic plan. Kill one of you own? Maybe. Kill four of them? That's Zsasz-level stupidity I will kill all of you!!! It is MY mission!! MY WILL BE DONE! 3. If I were scum, I would just kill people myself, not use a vig. Think about it, Zsasz, think! If you had a kill ability, if you didn't you would have to use someone else Anyway, Zsasz, you missed the point in your defense. You got an agent reading. You're supposed to argue why it wasn't accurate (framed, lying investigator, etc), not call me the scumbum. I'm just the messenger. I'm afraid you fouled up your lie so much now, like Deadshot, nobody is going to believe you I guess there's nothing else to do except change those dirty diapers and bite the bullet. The investigator is a dirty liar!! I didn't do it!!! (believe me now ) 24 hours have passed, so Vote: Mr. Zsasz/Nightshroud I will vote later... I need some time to think on who may be scum. There's probably five left so we need to be careful.
ADHO15 Posted November 29, 2011 Author Posted November 29, 2011 Sorry, folks! The Creeper's right... it's time to vote! There are 43 hours left of Day Five. Current vote tally Black Mask (Brickdoctor): 5 - 5 penalty votes Hush (JimButcher): 5 - 5 penalty votes Mr Zsasz (Nightshroud99): 1 - def
Brickdoctor Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 I Vote: Mr. Zsasz (Nightshroud99). Because there's no reason not to trust the investigation result right now.
Tamamono Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 Sorry, folks! The Creeper's right... it's time to vote! There are 43 hours left of Day Five. Egg-cellent! Vote: Mr. Zsasz (Nightshroud99) Current vote tally Black Mask (Brickdoctor): 5 - 5 penalty votes Hush (JimButcher): 5 - 5 penalty votes Mr Zsasz (Nightshroud99): 1 - def If you don't mind me asking, why do Hush and Mask have penalty votes?
Brickdoctor Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 If you don't mind me asking, why do Hush and Mask have penalty votes? I can't speak for Hush, but mine are because I had a small problem with the way I was sending in my Night Actions. I still got results, and it's been worked out, now.
Sirius Black Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 I will vote later... I need some time to think on who may be scum. There's probably five left so we need to be careful. Why the complete 180 here? You go on a diatribe about how: 1. Creeps masterminded a plan where he would sacrifice four fellow agents 2. Somehow I am the scum killer/vigilante and he used me to kill off Scarecrow last night 3. You claim he's coming up with fake investigation results And then you have the guts to say that "you need more time to think on who is scum? Yeah, right. You obviously don't believe what you said earlier, or else you would have stuck with your story. And where the hell are you getting these five agents from? Vote: Zsasz (Nightshroud99)
Brickdoctor Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 Why the complete 180 here? You go on a diatribe about how: 1. Creeps masterminded a plan where he would sacrifice four fellow agents 2. Somehow I am the scum killer/vigilante and he used me to kill off Scarecrow last night 3. You claim he's coming up with fake investigation results And then you have the guts to say that "you need more time to think on who is scum? Yeah, right. You obviously don't believe what you said earlier, or else you would have stuck with your story. And where the hell are you getting these five agents from? He's basically given up and has begun mocking the behavior of various others.
badboytje88 Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 I will Vote: Mr. Zsasz (Nightshroud99) Because I really see no reason why not to trust mr Creeper.
Oky Posted November 30, 2011 Posted November 30, 2011 I think it was because you asked for his reasoning behind the accusation, even though he clearly stated that it was because of a result of an investigation. Oh, I see... Well, let me rephrase then: What exactly did this investigation reveal about Mr. Zsasz?
Tamamono Posted November 30, 2011 Posted November 30, 2011 Oh, I see... Well, let me rephrase then: What exactly did this investigation reveal about Mr. Zsasz? Anyway, Zsasz, you missed the point in your defense. You got an agent reading.
Oky Posted November 30, 2011 Posted November 30, 2011 Yes, I got that, but what is it that gave us the agent reading? Behavior? Actions? Or something else?
Brickdoctor Posted November 30, 2011 Posted November 30, 2011 Yes, I got that, but what is it that gave us the agent reading? Behavior? Actions? Or something else? You do know how the Cop role works, right? The investigator is simply given the allegiance of the target. (unless, of course, the target is the Godfather or other role which confuses investigations, the target was framed, the investigator was one of the variants that doesn't give the true result, etc.)
Oky Posted November 30, 2011 Posted November 30, 2011 No, I didn't, that's why I asked (I didn't even know there is a mafia wiki ). Thank you, and excuse my inexperience with these kinds of "situations". Now I have no hesitation to... Vote: Mr. Zsasz (Nightshroud99) Not just because I trust the Creeper, but also because of Zsasz's very scummy reaction.
XimenaPaulina Posted November 30, 2011 Posted November 30, 2011 Vote: Mr. Zsasz (Nightshroud99) Why? Because according to the scum agents' BEST defense since Day 1, we are nothing but poor sheep following Creeps the Shepherd. You scumdumbs are the all-time worst in the mafia crime covert operation history.
Nightshroud99 Posted November 30, 2011 Posted November 30, 2011 Why the complete 180 here? You go on a diatribe about how: 1. Creeps masterminded a plan where he would sacrifice four fellow agents 2. Somehow I am the scum killer/vigilante and he used me to kill off Scarecrow last night 3. You claim he's coming up with fake investigation results And then you have the guts to say that "you need more time to think on who is scum? Yeah, right. You obviously don't believe what you said earlier, or else you would have stuck with your story. And where the hell are you getting these five agents from? Vote: Zsasz (Nightshroud99) I was just screwing with ya Although from the way those two people were killed, it kind of seems like you could have done it, or maybe Croc. Vote: Mr. Zsasz (Nightshroud99) Why? Because according to the scum agents' BEST defense since Day 1, we are nothing but poor sheep following Creeps the Shepherd. You scumdumbs are the all-time worst in the mafia crime covert operation history. Not you of course Babyface, you have been trying your darndest! I can't argue the fact that we're one of the stupidest undercover agents in history!! I mean come on! I'm a sociopath who wants to kill everyone! Simon bakes effing Pies!!! Deadshot is a hired killer! The Ventriloquist talks to himself!! Catwoman is dang sexy! Then there are five more people I won't mention. I need some more time to vote, so many possibilities, we must be sure to vote correctly!
JimBee Posted November 30, 2011 Posted November 30, 2011 If you don't mind me asking, why do Hush and Mask have penalty votes? Someone might have forgotten to send in their night action. Not me though, I would never do that. Anyway, we have the investigation results, so what more is there to say? Even if Creeper was scum, it would be highly unlikely that he'd just sell out most of his teammates just so he could be trusted. We'd be seeing Day 16 by the time he got the numbers down so that he could outnumber us. Besides, it seems like Zsasz has basically confessed... so... Vote: Mr. Zsasz/Nightshroud
WhiteFang Posted November 30, 2011 Posted November 30, 2011 There is nothing much that we can do right now, especially when we have concrete evidence! I stood by the judgement of the Creeper! Vote: Mr. Zsasz (Nightshroud99)
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