Gotham City Mafia: Day Six

[def]

Sorry, Hush, you brought the uppity to the table today. I didn't condescend you until you let me know that the information I was sharing was a "joke". Reread what has been said. What is it with everyone here being so bitchy?

[JimBee]

- Hush suddenly trying to indirectly save Ra's' megablocks by implying he'll go after Ivy since he thinks she's too dangerous after it's been clearly stated that we could simply block him from now on.

Again, really? I had already stated my suspicions on Ra's, and I do believe him to be scum. As I said, I find Ivy to be the bigger threat, and if the blocking/whatever is going to be done about it tonight fails and five or six Criminals suddenly explode... well don't say I didn't tell you so. And I'm sure if Ivy really is the arsonist, then the scum will do everything in their power to make sure that bomb goes off tonight.

Excuse me for trying to look at all of the threats here.

And, it's a little insulting that you think that I would just come out into the open and "flail", as you say, if I were scum. Obviously I would have just ignored, but no I'm being as open as possible about it.

Sorry, Hush, you brought the uppity to the table today. I didn't condescend you until you let me know that the information I was sharing was a "joke". Reread what has been said. What is it with everyone here being so bitchy?

I'm not disagreeing with you on that, I am defensive and uppity. But as I said it was because of your accusation, and later your high-and-mighty attitude.

Geez, no wonder why everyone's so bitchy. You've been right most of the time so far, but let's not start accusing everyone of treachery. We're not all scum, and I really don't understand how you find me to be so unhelpful.

[def]

Actually, the more Hush speaks, the scummier he looks. His attitude of, "Oh, you caught me! " is totally ridiculous. I didn't say he was scum. I was saying that he hasn't brought any information to the table that helped bring scum down. And it's true. But, I wasn't gloating over him that I had nabbed another scum. He read that into it himself, and we now have "Bitchy Hush" telling me why I'm wrong... For what?

He's been investigated Criminal. But, there will be scum who do that. And he voted for scum. Wow. All the scum have. His attitude today is based on a whole lot of nothing. I was not accusing him of anything before, just summarizing who was cleared. But this flail he's doing has put him back up on the radar. Utterly uncalled for.

[Brickdoctor]

- And Black Mask...? We're still deciding on your fate, but we're inclined to believe you're scum. We have some evidences against you, and we have some stash of it privately, so better get your defenses ready.

I have nothing to hide. Ready and waiting.

[Oky]

There was a little humor there, but the main message is that I'd like to see you pay attention to what's going on.

The main reason we've caught so many so fast is that a lot of town is working together, and when players start slowing down, that's when the scum catches you!

I see. Perhaps I did not detect the humor because I am beyond emotions. They have been frozen dead in me.

I certainly agree with your point though and shall do my best.

[JimBee]

Actually, the more Hush speaks, the scummier he looks. His attitude of, "Oh, you caught me! " is totally ridiculous.

I was actually talking to those who've openly accused me, Doll and Music Man.

He's been investigated Criminal. But, there will be scum who do that. And he voted for scum. Wow. All the scum have.

So... I'm different from anyone else, how? That is what I'm trying to figure out, and you still haven't specified how I've been especially unhelpful. If that makes me bitchy, scummy, and whatnot then so be it. I'm just trying to understand what you were getting at in your initial... accusation, comment, whatever you would like to call it.

[Oky]

Hush's attitude does seem a bit fishy, but I wouldn't say he's scum.

And I don't think Black Mask is scum either. I think he has been helpful enough not to be, and his claim to be an investigator seems plausible.

[def]

I'm not disagreeing with you on that, I am defensive and uppity. But as I said it was because of your accusation, and later your high-and-mighty attitude.

Geez, no wonder why everyone's so bitchy. You've been right most of the time so far, but let's not start accusing everyone of treachery. We're not all scum, and I really don't understand how you find me to be so unhelpful.

I already spelled it out for you. I quote, mere hours ago:

By no help, I mean that your "night results" have done nothing to help us. All the scum did the same thing. Zsasz had an open line of communication most of the game, and he wasn't able to help us once.

Who have you helped convict, outside of your vote? Nobody. That's what I mean by "No Help". Don't make me spell it out again.

You weren't accused of anything, you just chose to flail all over the place. Much like Bane, if you are town and get killed by us, it'll be on your shoulders for looking so totally scummy today.

There really wasn't a high-and-mighty attitude, merely bafflement that you could be so bitchy when I'm simply doing my job in stating things as they are :hmpf:

If six criminals die tomorrow, I'll take the heat from it (and anyone else who decides not to vote for Ivy). It has never ever ever happened in a game here, so I'm not going to play as if that's likely to happen. You can do your best to explain that to people.

[JimBee]

I already spelled it out for you. I quote, mere hours ago:

Who have you helped convict, outside of your vote? Nobody. That's what I mean by "No Help". Don't make me spell it out again.

And as I've said, mere hours ago, I don't know what my night actions do in the first place. Does me not being open about that fact, and everything else I've shared with you, make me more unhelpful than, say a vanilla townie? Me at least trying to reach out and give you what I have... not once did I think that I was being unhelpful by doing that. If it helps, I'll be glad to not tell you anything anymore.

[Capt. Redblade]

I was actually talking to those who've openly accused me, Doll and Music Man.

Meister! It's Music Meister, goddammit! Get it right!

[def]

If it helps, I'll be glad to not tell you anything anymore.

Yes, acting like a five year old is what would help

Let me spell it out for you, slower... The other townies have done things behind the scenes to help take out scum. That puts them above you in the list of innocents. Does that explanation not offend your delicate sensibilities? Or should I pretend this isn't a mafia game and take your word for things

Really, why would someone have a tantrum because they were placed in the possible godfather list. It's really ridiculous. The only reason I can think of is guilt. It's what all the other scummies have done. We just need to wait for you to bitch about sheep

[JimBee]

*sigh* Now you're just making things difficult. Behind the scenes... hmm, now that rings a bell. Possibly, maybe, I've told you everything I know, and in return you tell me nothing. Gasp! Yes, I'm the one acting like a five-year old.

That is, if trying to completely understand where someone is coming from is considered a tantrum.

[Oky]

All that sarcasm really isn't helping your case, Hush.

[def]

I'm getting embarrassed for Hush. He's bitching since he's not getting enough credit for doing nothing

Is anybody else thinking it's ridiculous? I hope he's just drunk or something to justify this attitude.

[Jedi master Brick]

Hush's reaction seems a bit tantrum like. I think Ra is going to get my vote today thought

[badboytje88]

Well I'm here to address the rumour of me being the arsonist. That's complete crap. Think about it. Fire isn't my friend. Never was and never will be. The bomb-ish action which the creeper quoted has nothing to do with the seeds. It was clever of the creeper to post this quote cause out of context or looks really shady.

The bombish role is sort of a protective role since it protects me against people targeting me. Resulting in their death. I haven't used it yet since it doesn't help me win this thing and it would be a shame if we lost an investigator thanks to my action. I will be using it tonigt.

[def]

Well I'm here to address the rumour of me being the arsonist. That's complete crap. Think about it. Fire isn't my friend. Never was and never will be. The bomb-ish action which the creeper quoted has nothing to do with the seeds. It was clever of the creeper to post this quote cause out of context or looks really shady.

The bombish role is sort of a protective role since it protects me against people targeting me. Resulting in their death. I haven't used it yet since it doesn't help me win this thing and it would be a shame if we lost an investigator thanks to my action. I will be using it tonigt.

For the record, I didn't make any of that stuff up about an arsonist or exploding seeds. Did Hush do that? Babydoll? I already don't want to go back and read through everything At the very least, you'll have relaxed a lot of people who think you've been planting bombs on us everyday. It might have been better to pretend you had it. Now we can just kill you if we like without any worry I'm not saying we'll do that, but, you know, cooperation.

What I would like to pay attention to is the people who voted for Bane, who we often forget, should have been a massive map to the scum. Let's look, shall we?

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Final vote tally

Bane (Masked Builder): 15 - KielDaMan (clear), Brickdoctor (suss), Bob_, WhiteFang, Rumble Strike, Captain Tamamono (clear), Mrlegoninja (suss), Sirius Black (clear), Oky (clear), Nightshroud99, Scorpiox, Jedi master Brick (clear), Peanuts, Professor Flitwick, K-nut (suss)

The Ventriloquist (Professor Flitwick): 7 - Masked Builder, Alopex, JediAnakin, badboytje88, def, Capt. Redblade, sok117

At this point, it really looks like all the scum were rallying to save that knob end, the Ventriloquist. Foolishly even. There is a slight concern that the Music Meister (Redblade) could be scum, but really, the others who voted for Ventie seem on the up and up. (note that the Meister didn't throw a tantrum today when I didn't vouch that he was cleared, though. Nice one )

I think the key thing to consider is that the scum put all their eggs in one basket. And we're going to step on it and smash them to pieces

What do you fine folks think?

[Oky]

Ah, so Ivy's seeds and her bombing action (which isn't really a bombing action) are two different things? That makes sense.

Ivy told me that she can win with the seeds even if she is dead, so if she's telling the truth (and she hasn't lied to us so far) lynching her would be pointless.

[badboytje88]

Ah, so Ivy's seeds and her bombing action (which isn't really a bombing action) are two different things? That makes sense.

Ivy told me that she can win with the seeds even if she is dead, so if she's telling the truth (and she hasn't lied to us so far) lynching her would be pointless.

I said it before (I think) I don't need to live to win as long as most surviving players have a seed on them. I don't know how long this whole ordeal is going to last, but I'm quite positive chances of me winning this thing are slimming down rapidly due to the incredible work of the criminals/the sucking of the agents. If the agents managed to kill more players, my chances would have been bigger to win this thing. Not that I'm complaining I know the Creeper didn't want a seed because he thought it might have a consequence but it doesn't. I respected his wish for a while but in the end I too want to win so going for people who are most certainly criminals is the best tactic for me. In the end we all want to beat and win this thing!

[XimenaPaulina]

In the end we all want to beat and win this thing!

In all honesty Ivy, I really have no problem with you as long as you don't f*ck up those you have planted seeds on. Like you, all I want is for us to win to get over with this mission so we could claim our reward money. Maybe it's just paranoia on the criminal's side, but do understand that we have to do what we have to do in order to prevent any untoward incident that might result in a catastrophic loss for the criminals. So we'll do whatever it takes to render you harmless, not necessarily kill you. You are but a side concern, since our main focus is terminating the rest of the scumdumb agents. Like what the Creeps has said, the least you could is to cooperate and we'll give you a free ride to victory.

Now that that is out of the way, I guess what's clear is that we'll be taking out Ra's today. And since it has been confirmed that 4 out of the 14 who voted for Zsasz yesterday are not town, if we remove Ivy who claims to be independent and if Ra's turns out to be indeed an agent, then we're left with two more scum agents. Those who'll be on our watchlist/hitlist are Hush, Black Mask, and Two-Face.

[def]

It's official, something is up with Black Mask. Two nights in a row, we tried to investigate him, and the investigation won't go through. Something about his thugs being too tough or something.

On top of that, the vig tried to kill Ra's last night, but wasn't able to, something to do with Ra's.

So, our path is clear. We vote out Ra's today, kill Black Mask tonight if we can, then think about what to do with Hush tomorrow, assuming we're still figuring things out. Unless you guys want to lynch Ivy on the chance that she'll kill five of us tonight.

Up to you folks. The Creeper doesn't control you! Right Ivy

[Tamamono]

I am just dumbfounded by Hush's childish behavior. He's having a Simon-level tantrum just because Creeps said that he might be the Godfather and that he hasn't done anything for the town yet. Yes, because everyone knows that getting all pissy is the best thing you can do in a situation like this.

You misunderstand me. Look at the person I responded to. Egghead referenced someone claiming Investigator when in the hot seat. I'm pointing out that I wasn't in the hot seat when I claimed it. I'm not denying the fact that I'm an Investigator or that I claimed so.

Okay, sorry I misunderstood. I thought you had claimed investigator as soon as you were accused in private. Now, since you're an investigator, I hope you won't mind sharing a few results with us?

Well I'm here to address the rumour of me being the arsonist. That's complete crap. Think about it. Fire isn't my friend. Never was and never will be. The bomb-ish action which the creeper quoted has nothing to do with the seeds. It was clever of the creeper to post this quote cause out of context or looks really shady.

I'm not accusing you of burning down houses, arsonist is just the closest thing to your unorthodox action.

That 'bomb-ish' action could very well be misquoted or out of context, but why would the Creeper want to incriminate you like that? That's a scum move, Ivy, and Creeps is town.

The bombish role is sort of a protective role since it protects me against people targeting me. Resulting in their death. I haven't used it yet since it doesn't help me win this thing and it would be a shame if we lost an investigator thanks to my action. I will be using it tonigt.

Oh? And you have to activate that action the night before, just like you said?

What I would like to pay attention to is the people who voted for Bane, who we often forget, should have been a massive map to the scum. Let's look, shall we?

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Final vote tally

Bane (Masked Builder): 15 - KielDaMan (clear), Brickdoctor (suss), Bob_, WhiteFang, Rumble Strike, Captain Tamamono (clear), Mrlegoninja (suss), Sirius Black (clear), Oky (clear), Nightshroud99, Scorpiox, Jedi master Brick (clear), Peanuts, Professor Flitwick, K-nut (suss)

The Ventriloquist (Professor Flitwick): 7 - Masked Builder, Alopex, JediAnakin, badboytje88, def, Capt. Redblade, sok117

At this point, it really looks like all the scum were rallying to save that knob end, the Ventriloquist. Foolishly even. There is a slight concern that the Music Meister (Redblade) could be scum, but really, the others who voted for Ventie seem on the up and up. (note that the Meister didn't throw a tantrum today when I didn't vouch that he was cleared, though. Nice one )

Good point, Creeper. Music Meister had no reason to vote for Ventriloquist, but he did so anyway.

I said it before (I think) I don't need to live to win as long as most surviving players have a seed on them. I don't know how long this whole ordeal is going to last, but I'm quite positive chances of me winning this thing are slimming down rapidly due to the incredible work of the criminals/the sucking of the agents. If the agents managed to kill more players, my chances would have been bigger to win this thing. Not that I'm complaining I know the Creeper didn't want a seed because he thought it might have a consequence but it doesn't. I respected his wish for a while but in the end I too want to win so going for people who are most certainly criminals is the best tactic for me. In the end we all want to beat and win this thing!

It's like I asked before: why didn't you just tell Creeper about how 'you win when the majority of survivors have been seeded'? Your putting a seed on him against his will and then lying publicly about your action does not help your case, Ivy.

Now that that is out of the way, I guess what's clear is that we'll be taking out Ra's today. And since it has been confirmed that 4 out of the 14 who voted for Zsasz yesterday are not town, if we remove Ivy who claims to be independent and if Ra's turns out to be indeed an agent, then we're left with two more scum agents. Those who'll be on our watchlist/hitlist are Hush, Black Mask, and Two-Face.

Yes, surprising as it is that there are still four scum/independents left, I don't think we'll have much trouble eliminating them. Ra's today, Ivy tonight (unless Creeps wants to keep her around and just make sure she doesn't win), and then a choice of two out of three of the other suspects. We're almost there!

[Brickdoctor]

Okay, sorry I misunderstood. I thought you had claimed investigator as soon as you were accused in private. Now, since you're an investigator, I hope you won't mind sharing a few results with us?

Sure, why not? Harley Quinn, Criminal. Two Face, Criminal. The reason I originally claimed my role on Day 2 was because on Night 1, I investigated Baby Doll to check my results against the public revelation to try to check my sanity, and I got an Agent (Not Criminal) result. The other Nights, I used my skill or my action failed. (it's a variant on a normal investigative action - the action has a 50% chance of investigating successfully and returning a result, the skill ensures that the next Night's action succeeds)

[def]

It's like I asked before: why didn't you just tell Creeper about how 'you win when the majority of survivors have been seeded'? Your putting a seed on him against his will and then lying publicly about your action does not help your case, Ivy.

She told me that, but it was nothing I had verified, so I said to her, "as long as I don't have a seed on me." It was self-serving, I admit, but his day one choice, Harley, is still with us, so I didn't consider it as pressing a matter as taking out the real scum. Now that he's planted one on me, I want to know for sure what it is, in case there is a problem. Before, he was an outsider I was willing to leave on her own, but she had to pull me in.

I will say, I don't believe she is an Agent, despite not being investigated, based on her early Day One vote of Catwoman.

Sure, why not? Harley Quinn, Criminal. Two Face, Criminal. The reason I originally claimed my role on Day 2 was because on Night 1, I investigated Baby Doll to check my results against the public revelation to try to check my sanity, and I got an Agent (Not Criminal) result. The other Nights, I used my skill or my action failed. (it's a variant on a normal investigative action - the action has a 50% chance of investigating successfully and returning a result, the skill ensures that the next Night's action succeeds)

So if you used your skill, then you action wouldn't fail

Crappy, crappy lie.

Can you explain why you were uninvestigatable for two nights? Or will that get you another five penalty votes

[badboytje88]

Oh by all means investigate me! I don't mind.