Torture legalized in the US ?

[JINZONINGEN73]

However, that's only part of the phrase. What it actually says in Koran is:

"There is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is clearly from the wrong way."

And that's where the problems come from... the notion that someone is right, and therefore those who do not believe same are "wrong". From there it's a short hop, skip, and jump to crusades, concentration camps, and the grim future of religious and cultural warfarre that will be coming to a country near you in the next 10-50 years.

I don't see too many militant atheists blowing themselves up in the name of nonbelief.

Exactly. Religions have SO much gobbledygook tossed in with the more "sane" passages that any leader or figurehead can just alter the meaning to how they see fit.

You can live with the poor and give them the shirt off your back... but you DON'T need a god or symbolic artifact to do so. And when you do, as said... what means "live with the poor and give them the shirt off your back" THIS decade, could be "the poor are lesser than us, and get in the way of enlightenment" the next decade.

I think the real trick is setting up a set of courteous, common-sense directions for what one should do in a situation, but without it being "law" or falling under a religion or other malleable idol.

The Ten Commandments ALMOST go there, but not quite. And with tons of baggage that gets in the way.

But even if it can be accomplished, then you'd still have a section of people saying they're "right", and another saying, "they're wrong".

I think the last South Park that aired had it humorously described.

Cartman freezes himself because he can't stand waiting for the Nintendo Wii to be released, but accidentally wakes up like 500 years from now.

Ms. Garrison's anti-religion ramblings in current times led to humanity being atheist in that future.

Everything is hyper-technologfical and at peace, but then the Atheist Alliance gets raided by the Alliance of Atheists group.

X D

We all just love fighting, we do.

[gylman]

Hey Jinzo, where is that crazy sig picture from (of the bunny monsters attacking that guy). I can't stop looking at it....

HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!~

[Chuck]

Oh come on...

"Torture" is just a fancy way of saying "asking politely so that they will tell us where they hide their nuclear stockpile". I thought everyone would know this by know.

-l2k-

[zouave]

I havent heard anything about torture.But wouldn't you rather there be abroken armed terrorist or a couple thousand dead people?

[Asuka]

I havent heard anything about torture.But wouldn't you rather there be abroken armed terrorist or a couple thousand dead people?

Indeed. All we need is a very good reason.

We know that dictators are quick to choose aggression, while free nations strive to resolve differences in peace. We know that oppressive governments support terror, while free governments fight the terrorists in their midst. We know that free peoples embrace progress and life, instead of becoming the recruits for murderous ideologies.

George W. Bush

No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God.

President George Bush

If the bloodbath must come, then let's get on with it!

Gov. Ronald W. Reagan to the U.C. Board of Regents

To safe the life of a thousands.... yes, that sounds noble.... but on the same time

you would risk the lifes of millions too.... everyone with some different opinion

could be considered as a terrorist. Me, you, any kind of opposition, and The World

Almanac 2001 states that there are about 5.8 million Muslims in the USA....

Every nation in every region now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.

George W. Bush

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