Hinckley Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Please read what I said to the end... And I did read it, by the way. It's just as stupid no matter how much of it I quote. Whatever your reasoning, I hope we will learn something from it. Weirdo.
fhomess Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Why???????? I want to call Ms. Taylor on her statement. Now, I would like to Unvote: Toulouse LePlot (WhiteFang)
Tamamono Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 I want to call Ms. Taylor on her statement. Now, I would like to Unvote: Toulouse LePlot (WhiteFang) Well, it doesn't do much good if you don't even keep the vote on him long enough for her to vote for him too. You've got a lot to learn, Ophelia.
Hinckley Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 I want to call Ms. Taylor on her statement. Now, I would like to Unvote: Toulouse LePlot (WhiteFang) Then why didn't you wait to see if she would vote along? I apologize for being so confounded. I'm not following your strategy.
fhomess Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Then why didn't you wait to see if she would vote along? I apologize for being so confounded. I'm not following your strategy. Fair enough, I'll leave the vote out there until Ms Taylor responds appropriately. Vote: Toulouse LePlot (WhiteFang)
Eskallon Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Also, now I've got your attention, I wanted to ask you something.How do you know there are exactly 6 cultists[/url]? Okay, noone else seems to be bothered, so I might be looking into it too much . I said roughly, but as you already know, it was a guess based on the rough estimate of how many people their would normally be in a game of life. Anyhow, on the current topic of who to vote for, I like all the rest of you am at a loss and don't have a clue as to who to vote for. I haven't seen much (if any) evidence which would be enough to condemn one of us. So I will be happy to pass for today and see how the night pans out. Then again, saying that if something comes up, I will be happy to support a vote provided that it has an inch of reasoning behind it.
Zepher Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 He is claiming I'm not being productive, while I've actually been the only one to make any concrete statements. The second part just sounds like prep-work for a later vote when he isn't satisfied with my 'production'. Perhaps I'm being paranoid, but that is all too often how these "Day One"s go I have said that I do not distrust you and all your points are valid. I've only asked to see a list of suspects that you claim to have. See, seeing the list would be productive. I had no intention of making you a sacrificial lamb today or any other day. You immediately jumping on those you think are accusing you is not abnormal behavior, I don't think, so I won't penalize you for it. Anyway, I think you're just playing the situation different than me. We've had very different upbringings, you and I, no reason that I should knock your way just because I don't think it's helpful to anyone. Furthermore, you said that you were the only one bringing up suspects, but when i suspected one of your supporters, you flat out ignored it and said I was lining you up in the cross-wires. As for my lamb, I Vote: Penelope Farago. The reasons are below. I'll offer a suspect. Penelope Farago, I don't trust her. You seem to be having fun and trying to cause a ruckus, but for the purpose of stirring up sand to see where the scorpions are, as we say at my village, while she seems to be following you just to get at someone. Is it likely she's a cultist? No. But I'm giving us all more to think about.
Sandy Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Just wait a minute... First you guys are all "yeah, let's vote randomly", and now it's "random vote is stupid, pulling a name out of your big behind is better", and when Ophelia literally pulls a name out of her big behind it's "omg why did you vote without any reasons?!". Can you just make up your mind about what you are for and what you are against, please? The bottom line for me is that I do not trust any sort of behaviour or matter of speech to reveal anything about a person's alignment. The cultists could be hiding behind the noisy ones, or they could be the noisy ones themselves. A passive player could as well be a cultist as an active player. And nobody has approached me with any sort of claim or theory that would help me make any sort of decision as to whom to vote for, so my strategy sticks. I am going to vote: Toulouse Leplot/WhiteFang, even though I am aware Ophelia will most likely draw back her vote. If the votes start piling on somebody else, I might change my vote. But at least now I've done my duty as an innocent victim of this dire situation and voted.
Hinckley Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Just wait a minute... First you guys are all "yeah, let's vote randomly", and now it's "random vote is stupid, pulling a name out of your big behind is better", and when Ophelia literally pulls a name out of her big behind it's "omg why did you vote without any reasons?!". Can you just make up your mind about what you are for and what you are against, please? The bottom line for me is that I do not trust any sort of behaviour or matter of speech to reveal anything about a person's alignment. The cultists could be hiding behind the noisy ones, or they could be the noisy ones themselves. A passive player could as well be a cultist as an active player. And nobody has approached me with any sort of claim or theory that would help me make any sort of decision as to whom to vote for, so my strategy sticks. I am going to vote: Toulouse Leplot/WhiteFang, even though I am aware Ophelia will most likely draw back her vote. If the votes start piling on somebody else, I might change my vote. But at least now I've done my duty as an innocent victim of this dire situation and voted. Nobody ever endorsed voting randomly except for that crazy idiot who talks to his dead fish... I mean, the British sounding chap, the cliche. You know who I mean. Anyway, have fun with your strategy. Ok, then. I Vote: Toulouse LePlot (WhiteFang) OK, she voted along with you. Is the experiment over? Will you unvote him now or at least give some reason why the vote would go to him? I agree he's been awful quiet. But there are quite a few quiet folks in our group. As for my lamb, I Vote: Penelope Farago. The reasons are below. I mentioned being suspicious of her too, but it was a very small hunch and would hinge on Mr. Fitzdef being Scum. I guess if she's Scum, we'd have more of an inkling if he is. I want to take a look at all the quiet people and then I'll make a vote. Besides, if I voted along with you right away Ms. Murgatroyd would be even more suspicious of you and I.
Cecilie Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 I feel like we're not really getting anywhere here. And there has been so much bickering today I can't ever hear myself think I don't really understand the choice of Toulouse for a vote though (other than that he's been mostly quiet today, but so have many others, including me...), but I guess it at least proved that Jennifer wasn't lying about choosing to be a sheep as a strategy . I think I need to go back over today's events before I can make up my mind about who to vote for...
Professor Flitwick Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Nobody ever endorsed voting randomly except for that crazy idiot who talks to his dead fish... I mean, the British sounding chap, the cliche. You know who I mean. Phraw! Sounds like my kind of chap, dontcha know! Loyal, good sense of humour, sounds like a fine body of a man! Now then, on to the subject of the sacrifice! I'm going to Vote: Ophelia Balls (fhomess). I found the whole charade of voting for Mr. Leplop, just to get the little filly, Ms. Taylor to vote, to be pointless, and relatively foolish, rather like a game of charades. I'm not sure if Leplop or Taylor are innocent, nor am I positive that Ms. Balls is a cult member, but I feel trying to waste two votes is rather absurd. I know I suggest a random sacrifice earlier, but it would obviously be pointless if the majority didn't agree to it, and was spiffingly useless in Ms. Balls' application.
ADHO15 Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Alright. I am going to get a vote in before I take my camel-nap, and seeing as we, or I at least, are no closer to finding a Cultist than at the beginning of the day, I shall just go ahead and Vote: Ishaq Ettaq (Wuntin) My reasons are these: he has been extrememly quiet today, which could possibly be in an attempt to fly under the radar. Even if it is not, he has clearly not been very helpful in today's discussions and would likely not be missed. His character also seems to be a little in question, in this camel's opinion. One who would likely sell out the group for his own personal gain. Ishaq Ettaq - Played by WuntinIshaq is a suave and cool guy, who’s dealt with explorers on a number of occasions in other parts of his Egypt. He’s a warm and friendly person, but he sure knows how to squeeze the most cash out of these crazy Westerners. That said, he’ll do anything for the right price. The allignment of the people in our group may well be random, or it may not. If it is not, I would say that this man is a safe bet. Of course I will gladly retract and my vote if I see fit reason to do so.
Scubacarrot Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 I am going to vote for Captain Roger Goodenarde, mainly because of his absurd suggestion to vote randomly, to me at least, it seems more logical to vote for people that act suspicious, than for a random person. Since a random sacrifice will have odds against the innocent's favor. His reasoning for suggesting this are very thin it seems, and I would have thought that an experienced man like himself would not make such a mistake if he was innocent. Furthermore, he brought up that I was among the people that didnt comment on the debate, I would like to urge the captain to reconsider what I said, or it could be seen as suspicious activity... Also, a random sacrifice would'nt make NEARLY as good as a story! So without further ado, I vote Captain Roger Goodenarde (Professor Flitwick)
fhomess Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 OK, she voted along with you. Is the experiment over? Will you unvote him now or at least give some reason why the vote would go to him? I agree he's been awful quiet. But there are quite a few quiet folks in our group. I'll go ahead and let it stand for now as it wasn't an entirely random selection in the first place. Mr. Leplot has been very quiet but has popped in enough times with comments that haven't added to the conversation in a way that I think is helpful in getting any future value out of. For that reason, I'll ask Mr. Leplot to explain himself. A reasonable response will get an unvote. Now then, on to the subject of the sacrifice! I'm going to Vote: Ophelia Balls (fhomess). I found the whole charade of voting for Mr. Leplop, just to get the little filly, Ms. Taylor to vote, to be pointless, and relatively foolish, rather like a game of charades. I'm not sure if Leplop or Taylor are innocent, nor am I positive that Ms. Balls is a cult member, but I feel trying to waste two votes is rather absurd. I know I suggest a random sacrifice earlier, but it would obviously be pointless if the majority didn't agree to it, and was spiffingly useless in Ms. Balls' application. A reasonable response if you think my actions weren't entirely helpful (and I admit it probably was), but in the end, tossing out votes on people who are quiet is not spiffingly useless. It encourages those people to join the conversation and will hopefully lead to information that can be used later even if it's not entirely revealing today. Allowing the day to fly by without any real accusations is wasting the day and plays into the Cultists hands. I don't have any real evidence to go on with Mr. Leplot, but allowing him to remain quiet if he is a cultist would not be in our best interest.
Hinckley Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Alright. I am going to get a vote in before I take my camel-nap, and seeing as we, or I at least, are no closer to finding a Cultist than at the beginning of the day, I shall just go ahead and Vote: Ishaq Ettaq (Wuntin) My reasons are these: he has been extrememly quiet today, which could possibly be in an attempt to fly under the radar. Even if it is not, he has clearly not been very helpful in today's discussions and would likely not be missed. His character also seems to be a little in question, in this camel's opinion. One who would likely sell out the group for his own personal gain. The allignment of the people in our group may well be random, or it may not. If it is not, I would say that this man is a safe bet. Of course I will gladly retract and my vote if I see fit reason to do so. Being quiet is a good reason. That assessment of his character is an awful reason since we've been warned against such behavior: We will say this once and once only. The characters were written before assigning players, and before assigning alignments. All assignments are entirely random. Information here is for fun; any assumptions are made at your own risk. I'll go ahead and let it stand for now as it wasn't an entirely random selection in the first place. Mr. Leplot has been very quiet but has popped in enough times with comments that haven't added to the conversation in a way that I think is helpful in getting any future value out of. For that reason, I'll ask Mr. Leplot to explain himself. A reasonable response will get an unvote. I agree with your reasoning. It's a solid lead. However, I don't understand why you originally unvoted after only a couple of minutes.
Rufus Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Vote Tally Toulouse LePlot (WhiteFang) 2 (fhomess, Sandy) Ophelia Balls (fhomess) 1 (Professor Flitwick) Ishaq Ettaq (Wuntin) 1 (ADHO15) Roger Goodenarde (Professor Flitwick) 1 (Scubacarrot)
MagPiesRUs Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Wait a minute - we're still in the canyon???? Oh right, a rope bridge collapsed and we can't get out... Can't we build a ladder or something? I'll go ahead and let it stand for now as it wasn't an entirely random selection in the first place. Mr. Leplot has been very quiet but has popped in enough times with comments that haven't added to the conversation in a way that I think is helpful in getting any future value out of. For that reason, I'll ask Mr. Leplot to explain himself. A reasonable response will get an unvote. A reasonable response if you think my actions weren't entirely helpful (and I admit it probably was), but in the end, tossing out votes on people who are quiet is not spiffingly useless. It encourages those people to join the conversation and will hopefully lead to information that can be used later even if it's not entirely revealing today. Allowing the day to fly by without any real accusations is wasting the day and plays into the Cultists hands. I don't have any real evidence to go on with Mr. Leplot, but allowing him to remain quiet if he is a cultist would not be in our best interest. I guess this makes sense, but why did you originally unvote straight away? You applied some pressure to Leplot, then immediately retracted it all. Or did you just want Jennifer to vote for him? Personally I'm leaning towards Ms. Farago too. I'm not sure why you'd rush to someone's defense so early on in the game. She could be trying to defend a fellow cultist, or trying to attach herself to someone she knows is town. Or she could just be a townie sticking up for someone who hasn't led her astray in previous expeditions.
Hinckley Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 As for my lamb, I Vote: Penelope Farago. The reasons are below. Vote Tally Toulouse LePlot (WhiteFang) 2 (fhomess, Sandy) Ophelia Balls (fhomess) 1 (Professor Flitwick) Ishaq Ettaq (Wuntin) 1 (ADHO15) Roger Goodenarde (Professor Flitwick) 1 (Scubacarrot) Is someone voteless? Is there a vote thief? Is God retarded? Let's all flip out and speculate wildly!
JimBee Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Hm. While Nadir was cleaning up after Aloysius, it seems that some heated discussions have been going on. Nadir, for one, thinks that both Mehmed and Patrick are innocent, and the real culprits are either watching quietly or fueling the fire that puts both Innocents on the line. I am not suspicious of one or the other, at least to the extent of voting for one of them. Since there is no way of knowing anyone's alignment for me today, I will personally vote the first person who gets a vote against them. I guess this is the fairest method for me, since I cannot say who will get that vote. Soo... Vote: Jennifer Taylor (Sandy)? No? Okay, maybe it would have been funnier if Nadir had done it before the actual first vote had been cast. Or not... Unvote: Jennifer Taylor (Sandy) You see, Nadir was just pointing out the silliness of your... strategy. Surely, you must have some kind of suspicion after all of this talk and debate? It seems to Nadir that this bandwagon strategy is overly passive, even at this stage of our current crises. As for Nadir, he thinks that he will put his word in early and agree with the notion that Mr. Leplot seems rather... unhelpful and quiet. Vote: Toulouse Leplot (WhiteFang) Nadir is not saying that Toulouse is much more suspicious than anyone else, but at this point Nadir does not see a clear best option. Nadir is willing to change his vote should something more substantial come up (as unlikely as that seems).
CMP Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 You see, Nadir was just pointing out the silliness of your... strategy. Surely, you must have some kind of suspicion after all of this talk and debate? It seems to Nadir that this bandwagon strategy is overly passive, even at this stage of our current crises. Nadir is not saying that Toulouse is much more suspicious than anyone else, but at this point Nadir does not see a clear best option. Nadir is willing to change his vote should something more substantial come up (as unlikely as that seems). You're right, that's just silly. You should wait until at least 2 people put their votes on the same person. That makes it perfectly okay. There's no need to be such a hypocrite. Fitzy over there may be a bit squeaky on the hinges, but at least he knows who to scribble down in that little notebook of his. I'm still re-sifting through all the dirt (er, sand?) that's been thrown around today. Rest assured, I'll be casting my vote soon enough. So, Gordon. Did you get the oil yet?
JimBee Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 You're right, that's just silly. You should wait until at least 2 people put their votes on the same person. That makes it perfectly okay. There's no need to be such a hypocrite. Fitzy over there may be a bit squeaky on the hinges, but at least he knows who to scribble down in that little notebook of his. Nadir knew someone would say this. Nadir isn't being a hypocrite. At all. Just because we voted for the same person doesn't mean we voted for the same reasons. Jennifer was voting just for the sake of voting. She didn't seem to care who it was--she was willing to follow the vote on anyone. I actually had reasons. The difference is not in who, but in how. What makes you think he knows better than any of us who is innocent and who isn't? He even said himself that he didn't, so this sudden utmost faith in Patrick is really uncalled for in Nadir's opinion.
MagPiesRUs Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 Now that I have some balls, I'll Vote: Penelope Farago (Waterbrick Down), for reasons already stated. Delicious!
def Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 Someone not having anything to a conversation add isn't suspicious, especially when the 'conversation' is, like William said, a pissing match between our cook and our party leader. However, I do find the rest of what he's said to be pretty suspicious. Do you even read what's being said by everyone, or do you just latch on to what the guy before you wrote and copy it? Nadir is willing to change his vote should something more substantial come up (as unlikely as that seems). Well then, let's hope something substantial comes up, that tends to be how day ones work Anybody got any leads? Anyway, I'm going to follow that vote, I was thinking about earlier: Vote: Mehmet Attabar (Hinckley) The thinking behind it is as I've already stated. I'll add that, regardless of whether he was scum or town, he was going to be the most prolific poster here. Those posts have had troubling aspects. If he thinks he's merely bending the truth in order to provoke me, well, I don't see the 'town' quality in that. It's unhelpful, and a distraction. On the subject of Mr. Leplot, conversely, he was going to be quiet, regardless of his alignment. That's simply the way he is. For that reason, I wouldn't vote for him on day one. The ones who have been too quiet today also distress me, people like Hans, Melaena, Mellifluous, Father Thomson, and Ishaq. It's still early in the first day, so it's hard to make definitive statements about being absentee just yet. At the same time, Apu's behavior troubles me still too. One reason not to make a list like that early in the day is that, upon reading their name called out, scum can adjust their behavior in order to be "active". Apu's repeated bleating, requesting lists did nothing for us, and makes it appear as if I'm in a squabble, when in fact I was simply being harassed. I worry that Mehmet and Apu are trying to seize on any sort of reputation I've made for myself before this situation started, and play that back to the crowd, regardless of my own behavior, and, at least in the case of Sheila Suxsumb, they've succeeded For scum, it's a fair day one strategy. For town, it's just misleading. You're right, that's just silly. You should wait until at least 2 people put their votes on the same person. Why aren't you voting? I think my next list will be of those who are posting but not voting, for whatever reason. There is no majority needed, and unvoting is fine, so I don't get any conservative behavior here
Wuntin Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 Vote: Ishaq Ettaq (Wuntin) My reasons are these: he has been extrememly quiet today, which could possibly be in an attempt to fly under the radar. Even if it is not, he has clearly not been very helpful in today's discussions and would likely not be missed. Yes, I have been rather quiet. That is a character flaw of mine - I find it hard to speak unless I have something to say. There have been things I felt needed to be said, but every time someone beat me to it. If I had spoken up anyway, I'm sure you'd be suspicious of me for echoing what others are saying. As for my lamb, I Vote: Penelope Farago. The reasons are below. Is someone voteless? Is there a vote thief? Is God retarded? Let's all flip out and speculate wildly! If I were counting the votes, I would have missed (skipped?) that one too - it doesn't follow the rules.
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