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Thank you, Nadir. Seriously.

I haven't really taken notice of Melaena before now, but what you and Patrick say makes sense. And at this point, I'm willing to vote just about anyone if I can survive this mess and prove my virginity, I have no trouble admitting that. :tongue:

Unvote: Mehmet Attabar (Hinckley)

Vote: Melaena Stools (CallMePieOrDie)

Now we'll just have to wait for Melaena announce that she's a virgin, too... :look:

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Well, I'm almost going to say this makes perfect sense.

I can go for that. Melaena has been at the top of my suspect list since Day 1. Besides the fact that she passively participates in what's going on around here (apparently I am guilty of that too :blush: ), there is one thing that caught my attention in particular. From Day 1:

With a sarcastic tone, she simply assumes that I have the same strategy as Jennifer. Also notice the sudden trust in Patrick. On Day 1, we couldn't trust anyone more than another, so why this baseless, strong trust in Patrick? It makes no sense to me, and at this point I am thinking that regardless of Patrick's alliance, Malaena is sitting off to the side and fueling the fire that maybe she hoped would get Mehmet or someone else lynched.

Here's my reply, after which she hesitates (whispering to her Cultist buddies, perhaps?), and ultimately ignores. Seems like a scummy move to me.

So she ignores it, and finally makes this post. "I'm going to vote this person for her weirdness". Like I said on Day 1, the scum were probably splitting their votes so that when looking back at the voting patterns, we couldn't pick them out. This strategy would work particularly well in a situation such as this, where there is no majority needed, the person with the most votes is lynched.

So, I will

Unvote: Jennifer Taylor (Sandy)

Vote: Melaena Stools (CallMePie)

The reason I'm unvoting Jennifer is because her defense is solid. Particularly in her first posts, she outlines behavior that would not be that of a Cultist. I voted for her originally because it seemed like the best option at the time, and I didn't want to add to the confusion (of Jennifer, the cloak, etc.) by bringing up Melaena.

Alright. Perhaps I wasn't being fair in that observation of you. I just found it slightly ironic, and to poke fun at that time (or at this time) isn't a good idea. You've got me there. :blush: But to say I have trust in Patrick, after being one of the people to vote for him on Day One, is pretty ridiculous. Really, if you'll go through the rest of my posts on Day One, you'll see I have not been a big fan of Patrick's actions. He was being a total megablocks that day.

Given the web of seemingly 'towniessness' surrounding him (stated by Mehmet), I've dropped it, as has everybody else who has issues with him. Do I like him? Hell no. I hate how he operates by being a total bitch to everybody (cloaked by sarcasm and cynicism or not), but I don't think he's scum. You may say I'm directly contradicting what I just stated concerning my stance on votes, however, at that time I was unaware lynches also counted towards the scum win. :sceptic:

As for ignoring it...well, I suppose I could've just said 'okay, I understand'. But there was a hell of a lot of mud and votes being thrown around at that point. I was just poking fun, and I didn't think I had come up as extremely suspicious of you, so I didn't reply.

As far as Ophelia Balls goes, I hope you're not going to defend her. I doubt you will, anyway, you're just looking at that I wasn't being particularly helpful for my vote at that point. Later on I realized this myself, and started making the votes that mattered, one could say.

Thank you, Nadir. Seriously.

I haven't really taken notice of Melaena before now, but what you and Patrick say makes sense. And at this point, I'm willing to vote just about anyone if I can survive this mess and prove my virginity, I have no trouble admitting that. :tongue:

Unvote: Mehmet Attabar (Hinckley)

Vote: Melaena Stools (CallMePieOrDie)

Now we'll just have to wait for Melaena announce that she's a virgin, too... :look:

Well, you're agreeing with Nadir and Patrick (who I just realized had voted for me. That's what I get for skimming over the posts in my absence. :wall), and you're currently the head on the chopping block, so you're off the hook for voting me right now. :laugh:

As to Patrick, well, he's voting for me since I haven't been particularly active. Understandable. I wasn't entirely active Day One, and have barley said anything today (again, most of it took place yesterday). But I urge him to look at that pile of priest clothing next to that statue and tell me it's a good idea to go through lynching someone for being quiet again. :look:

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But to say I have trust in Patrick, after being one of the people to vote for him on Day One, is pretty ridiculous. Really, if you'll go through the rest of my posts on Day One, you'll see I have not been a big fan of Patrick's actions. He was being a total megablocks that day.

That's the thing. You seemed to be supporting Patrick ever since the argument between him and Mehmet arose, and then when that sort of died out and the attention shifted to multiple other people, you suddenly lost interest and voted for a seemingly lesser threat, Ophelia. Splitting the vote more.

Given the web of seemingly 'towniessness' surrounding him (stated by Mehmet), I've dropped it, as has everybody else who has issues with him. Do I like him? Hell no. I hate how he operates by being a total bitch to everybody (cloaked by sarcasm and cynicism or not), but I don't think he's scum. You may say I'm directly contradicting what I just stated concerning my stance on votes, however, at that time I was unaware lynches also counted towards the scum win. :sceptic:

Understandable, but you didn't seem to mind until the fight between Patrick and Mehmet has ran its course. Also, what do you mean, you thought lynches didn't count towards the scum win? A townie death is a townie death, when has that ever been different in these games... of life?

As far as Ophelia Balls goes, I hope you're not going to defend her. I doubt you will, anyway, you're just looking at that I wasn't being particularly helpful for my vote at that point. Later on I realized this myself, and started making the votes that mattered, one could say.

No, I won't defend her, but I didn't think she was worth voting for then, and I don't think so now.

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I have clarification from the tracker. The result was that he though he followed me and "they" targeted Fitzdef. They as in a generic they, not the tracker, generic they. :look: What the megabluck?

Congratulations, you just outed another Virgin. :hmpf_bad:

You know that you just did that to yourself, right? You think the only way to stop the lynch is to announce publicly that you're a Virgin. That's as unwise as Fitzdef doing it yesterday. I find this hard to believe, especially since you had opportunities to take care of this in private. And no, I'm not insisting you should've told me. One of your reasons for voting for me in the first place was because I put "so much pressure on you, you actually decided to stop communicating with me." That's not the exact quote, but let's have a look at this "pressure situation" I created:

OK. :thumbup: Any results from last night or suspects you'd like to share anonymously through me? I can post anything you like in the thread. You'll have some cartoon name, of course. Any specific cartoon you would like to be?

No, I've got nothing. Sorry.

So then you're a virgin, right?

Run and hide!!!! Hinckley's tightening the thumbscrews!!!! That was no pressure. That was an opening to talk. Your next move didn't have to be claim, but if you were so suspicious of me, it was certainly an opportunity to try to poke me for slip-ups. The problem I have with this is not that she didn't claim to me but that she claimed to everyone I was pressuring her to reveal to me. Does that seem like pressure to you?

My other problem is your tunnel vision on me and your automatic mistrust and derision for the list I posted. Why are you insisting that it's all lies. I've said every time I've referenced it that it is comprised of claims. I'm not trying to get people to think it's a list of facts, I'm keeping all of the claims on the table so we can all take a part in strategizing. You keep trying to tell people that it's some ruse I'm pulling and that I'm Scum making a list of lies. Everyone on that list knows who they are! I'm totally accountable for all the claims and the information they've confided in me.

I just want to add that although Mehmet is not leading the vote against me (I'm very aware that you are, since you've emphasized it every step of the way), voting me out is actually a pro-Mehmet move. I'm the only one who actually rose to oppose him and his sovereignity, so of course I'm getting all the ire on me.

Are you forgetting that the person who voted for you is the person who brought forward the investigation result of Cultist against me? I would hardly call Fitzdef my ally. I certainly wouldn't call him pro-Mehmet. I don't think anybody would call me sovereign at this point. Did you miss the plan to once again focus all night actions on me?

You are a cruel and unreasonable man, Huge Anus. I can't believe innocent people are following anything you say. :sceptic:

I have to agree that the insults from Huge are excessive. Can we all stop playing this way? Where did this culture of insults begin? It's a game. How's my glass house? :look:

I think your glass house just exploded :look:

:laugh:

This game is not won by voting out all the people who are NOT in contact with Mehmet. Your "line of defence" is full of holes, mark my words.

Where did anybody suggest that we lynch the people not on my list?

I'm really torn, since I think you deserve to be lynched for your bad strategies, without any better choices, and I'm inclined to believe Manmeat's claims so far, so we don't have a fair target.

In light of the absolute lack of evidence about you, and your history of bad strategies, I Unvote: Jennifer Taylor (Sandy)

Rather I will vote for someone who has done nothing of note other than agree with the crowd:

Vote: Melaena Stools (CallMePieOrDie)

There are a number of other low-key non-participators (Hans Gubernaculum, Mellifluous Murgatroyd, Toulouse Leplot, Ishaq Ettaq, some others), who I think need to get active to show they are interested in getting things done. Unless of course they blabbed everything already to Manmeat.

I agree that Malaena is probably Scum and I would add Hans to that too, but I don't think Ms. Taylor is off the hook. Especially since she keeps insisting that voting first means she's Town. :hmpf: Reverse psychology: If I vote first, I'm automatically not Scum! And she didn't vote first on Day One, she infamously voted second.

I thank you for unvoting me, but I don't know what makes my strategies so bad? It's not like I can be held responsible for killing either Percy or Father Tomato... I did vote for you yesterday, and sorry if you still hold a grudge over that, but nobody is cleared as an innocent for me yet. What makes me voting for people worse than other people's votes, then?

Well, if we knew he was responsible for Percy's killing we would definitely be lynching that person.

I still see this mass of votes against me as a way to try to steer attention away from Mehmet. If he's not a cultist, then at least the cultists are using him and are seeing him as too valuable to waste. What better way to influence the crowd than via a puppet that can be thrown under the bus when things get heated?

Like I said, I don't know if Mehmet is a cultist, just like I don't know that about anyone, but for now I'm inclined to believe he is. Even that "mirror cloak" is something he could've very well made up, since nobody else has said such a thing even exists.

You think attention has been steered away from me?? I assure you it's not. I haven't stopped reading or typing every waking moment of my weekend. And as far as the "mirrored cloak" story being cockamamie, yes, I agree with you, it's nuts. I wish it weren't happening to me. I'm just surprised as you are that I'm not lynched at this point and that people are believing it. But they have expressed reason to trust me. The Scum alone couldn't save such a bullshitter from a lynch. I suppose people believe I'm telling the truth, but it's not lost on me that someone wants me around. I'm not convinced that someone on my list isn't trying to get more info from what I know. Some people have asked for the info and that itches my suspicions, but for now, I'm being trusted and if I am telling the truth about all of this, isn't that an asset to the Camp? I think people are willing to find out because if we just knock me out right now and I am telling the truth, that's probably helping the Cultists by removing the person that people are trusting and reporting Night Action results. Have I lied about any results thus far? No. So, your blind insistence that I'm Scum makes me suspicious of you because you seem desperate to turn people on me. Almost every post you made at the beginning of the day was against me and against the list. What's your fixation on it about? I've done this before successfully. Why are you suddenly so against the idea? I even explained that to you by PM. I pointed out that I did this successfully in another hole in the desert. Are you afraid of me succeeding? I'm not ready to unvote you. It shows the Scum all they have to do to avoid being lynched is claim Virgin publicly. :hmpf: You really put a target on yourself and that's all your doing. Nobody forced you.

Lieutenant, watch your language! That's a lady you are talking to!

Perfectly true, I haven't contacted you. I need to be sure your town before I reveal my results to you. Surely you can see the risk in giving a stranger the name of a virgin?

Bhaa-haa-haa! I was under the impression that they'd watch/track/investigate me last night without anybody asking! An investigator would be invaluable. Okay, whatever watchers/trackers/investigates, validate my claims tonight!

Well, it appears that Ms. Taylor is next to be put in Imhotep's mouth (The lucky devil! Bhaa-haa-haa!). I find it hard to believe that such an attractive woman could still be virgin, no to mention her odd way of voting yesterday, although it could've been an attempt to stay out of the limelight and protect her virginity. I'd offer to investigate her tonight, but if she is a virgin, the scum would either kill her during the night now that she has confessed, or frame her, rendering the investigation null..

--- Fin ----

See? That's why I'm not blurting it out! I hope you understood that, because you'll be able to understand this: Vote: Mellifluous Murgatroyd (Scubacarrot). The cultists probably appreciate what your doing, but I don't.

That's not a smart vote. I don't like you. Especially since your play is about what could happen, not what did. Don't confuse people, Captain. It's irresponsible. That's a hasty vote and unwise.

I'm surprised so many of you are convinced.

Mirror cloak protection that makes all actions look the opposite of what they are? Really?! :wacko:

I agree. It's wacko. We're in total agreement there. I expected to be lynched today and that's why my first comments were mostly a farewell. But that changed. People either trust me or want me around for other reasons. We'll find out soon why. Following what I've started is a viable strategy. Ending it now leaves the Town with a lot less to work with.

Simply put, you can't encourage Goodenarde to trust someone at random. Doing so makes you look like one of the people who has trusted Mehmet without thinking twice about it...

Oh god, I fear this camp is so screwed already... :hmpf:

That's not a good attitude. I'm inclined to keep my vote with you because the Town doesn't need negative people around. You've already given up on us, then what good can you do for us? You're just going to drag our efforts down or drag us down with your possible Cultist cohorts. And do you really think these people just ran to me and claimed without thinking twice? We had conversations, we looked for ways to confirm each other. You're insulting everyone on the list, no wonder they're not following your attempts to lynch me. You're calling them all stupid.

I think it was never Mehmet's attention to give up, but rather a scheme to make him seem innocent, after all, What is more suspicious? someone who uses his last moments to help the town? or someone who spends his last moment arguing with others?

Although I still very much distrust the Captain, No one seems to share my suspicions, so It will not come to a lynch of him in any case.

Thus, I am Unvote: Captain Roger Goodenarde (Professor Flitwick)

vote: Mehmet Attabar (Hinckley)

That's odd considering our private conversations...

I don't get the whole mirror business... Can someone explains in layman terms? I am pretty certain I had missed it somewhere.

Someone protected me with a mirrored cloak. The two night actions that focused on me had they "thought" they protected and tracked me. I'm theorizing that the mirror messed with their results. Perhaps even gave a mirror image of what was actually happening.

Why would the investigation result been solid if the other two night actions got "you think" results? Fitzdef, are you sure you can trust this investigator??

Thank you, Nadir. Seriously.

I haven't really taken notice of Melaena before now, but what you and Patrick say makes sense. And at this point, I'm willing to vote just about anyone if I can survive this mess and prove my virginity, I have no trouble admitting that. :tongue:

Unvote: Mehmet Attabar (Hinckley)

Vote: Melaena Stools (CallMePieOrDie)

Now we'll just have to wait for Melaena announce that she's a virgin, too... :look:

:wacko: I don't even know what to think about this. Kill Mehmet! Kill Mehmet! Kill Mehmet! Oh that's not working? Kill the first person that Fitzdef votes for instead... I don't trust Melaena either, but I think my vote is better placed with you. I think you're both Scum and it would be a good long strategy to vote for a fellow Scummie to screw with the voting pattern.

I hate this. There really is a big risk in lynching anyone that could possibly be a Virgin...

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That's the thing. You seemed to be supporting Patrick ever since the argument between him and Mehmet arose, and then when that sort of died out and the attention shifted to multiple other people, you suddenly lost interest and voted for a seemingly lesser threat, Ophelia. Splitting the vote more.

Understandable, but you didn't seem to mind until the fight between Patrick and Mehmet has ran its course. Also, what do you mean, you thought lynches didn't count towards the scum win? A townie death is a townie death, when has that ever been different in these games... of life?

No, I won't defend her, but I didn't think she was worth voting for then, and I don't think so now.

Supporting Patrick? :wacko: Where did I do that? Again, I voted for the person I found most suspicious. I stated my reasoning for voting for her on Day One.

Like I just said in my speech about voting, I know townie deaths always count towards a scum win, indirectly or not. At that point, I don't think anyone saw this as just 'the cultists have to outnumber us to win'. Like I also just said in my post, there's never been a more clear-cut goal for the scum. They have to kill some number of virgins is what I'm drawing from Is and Ossie's revelation today. I'm assuming that number if significantly less than a majority, since it would be retarded to make a goal like that if it wasn't it. That means lynching a virgin is possible even worse than lynching a role. The fact that the scum are a person closer to winning because of us isn't a good feeling.

I've also dropped the case of Ophelia Balls, since a slight amount of evidence has been brought up against other people, none of which I feel is fully concrete and worthy of a vote that could easily destroy us. Unless you missed my post, by my understanding, voting has far more risks than usual. Given the option of not voting and making a half-hearted vote, I choose the former. I've read books about where people are lynched for this, but virgins are worth too much to risk accidentally lynching one, so I'm not going to do it.

Of course, I was hoping for a more positive reaction to that post, so I guess nobody else is seeing this the same way. :sceptic:

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I'm sorry, I've learned better than to trust anyone this early in the process, Mehmet. That might make me a negative nancy for doubting everything, but on the other hand I've consistedly said that all options need to be held open until we know better.

And seriously, in your opinion I should've just started privately discussing my virginity with some people, hoping that they would rise to defend me? No, unlike you I'm without allies in this game of life. There was nobody to turn to, so I had to reveal my virginity to the public. I simply had no other option, not with nine votes already against me.

Kill Mehmet! Kill Mehmet! Kill Mehmet! Oh that's not working? Kill the first person that Fitzdef votes for instead...

Haha, as if that was how it went! Do you honestly expect me to stick to my vote even though almost nobody else supports it, even if it would cost my life? People seem keen to verify your trustworthiness first before getting rid of you, even though I'm still of the opinion that we'd be better off with you dead. But this is not a single-player game, and I'm obviously not the one calling the shots here, so I have to go with the second-best option.

I'm really curious; in case you're innocent, how exactly are you planning to protect yourself from conversion, if someone has that kind of an ability?

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In response to what you said earlier to me, Taylor, it would be easier for scum to claim virgin at this point than claim a night action. For one thing they can just sit back and say "Save Me!" and not have to make up a believable role that they would then have to fake. And there are the odds. There are probably far more virgins than power roles in this desert. The claim may or may not work for you this time. Day's not over yet.

I'm leaving my vote where it is right now. I am not, however, overly confident in the vote and if there is a better lead shortly, I may yet change it.

You make a great point, Will. Virgin is the perfect thing for the scum to claim, because then they don't have to do anything to back it up, yet they will usually get priority over power roles because the cultists need to kill virgins to win. However, what about Good and Hard? He can tell who the virgins are, thus revealing any claims from people that they are virgins. Of course, if a scum is backed into a corner, then he or she has no choice but to make a 'revelation' like that to save his/her megablocks for a little while longer.

I guess I'm just too trusting of role claims. :sceptic: I just don't know what to do about Jennifer. Her 'eccentric' playing isn't helping us at all, but eccentric does not automatically equal scum.

With a sarcastic tone, she simply assumes that I have the same strategy as Jennifer. Also notice the sudden trust in Patrick. On Day 1, we couldn't trust anyone more than another, so why this baseless, strong trust in Patrick? It makes no sense to me, and at this point I am thinking that regardless of Patrick's alliance, Malaena is sitting off to the side and fueling the fire that maybe she hoped would get Mehmet or someone else lynched.

Melaena has been tripping my scumdar for a while, too. If she's scum, then it would definitely be in her best interests to keep her mouth shut and not repeat her last performance. So far, she's been incredibly quiet, which is not something we usually see from her. In addition, the majority of her posts are genuinely scummy.

Her defense isn't particularly strong either. It mostly just consists of her saying 'I was just poking fun!'. :hmpf:

I have clarification from the tracker. The result was that he though he followed me and "they" targeted Fitzdef. They as in a generic they, not the tracker, generic they. :look: What the megabluck?

What? :wacko: This mirror cloak business is getting weirder by the minute...

I have to agree that the insults from Huge are excessive. Can we all stop playing this way? Where did this culture of insults begin? It's a game. How's my glass house? :look:

I agree with Mehmet on this. I think we're all getting a bit too worked up here. This is a game, and it's supposed to be fun. If it isn't fun, then we shouldn't play. Insulting people certainly doesn't make the game fun. I was out of line with my insults as well, and I'm sorry once again if I offended you, Jennifer.

:wacko: I don't even know what to think about this. Kill Mehmet! Kill Mehmet! Kill Mehmet! Oh that's not working? Kill the first person that Fitzdef votes for instead... I don't trust Melaena either, but I think my vote is better placed with you. I think you're both Scum and it would be a good long strategy to vote for a fellow Scummie to screw with the voting pattern.

This is the main thing that worries me about Jennifer. She's indiscriminate about who she votes for. Her voting was all over the board yesterday (not that everyone else's wasn't as well), and today she's been willing to hop onto almost anybody to take suspicion off of herself.

Melaena reeks of scum as well, and her defense is full of way more holes than Jennifer's (although it isn't like Jennifer's defense is any good either).

I don't know, I'm going to think things over a bit. I'm leaning towards Melaena, but I'm finally starting to see how claiming virgin was Jen's best defense.

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That's not a good attitude. I'm inclined to keep my vote with you because the Town doesn't need negative people around. You've already given up on us, then what good can you do for us? You're just going to drag our efforts down or drag us down with your possible Cultist cohorts. And do you really think these people just ran to me and claimed without thinking twice? We had conversations, we looked for ways to confirm each other. You're insulting everyone on the list, no wonder they're not following your attempts to lynch me. You're calling them all stupid.

If you're not with us then you're against us... Is that how it's going to go down? :tongue:

I do have to wonder how you've all been able to verify each other in just one night? And you had 11 people on your list yesterday, so if they did not run to you then how did it happened? Did you do a "zepher" and send 11 random people a message to trust you? :tongue:

I'm not calling anyone stupid, I'm calling people gullible. There's a difference.

Her voting was all over the board yesterday (not that everyone else's wasn't as well), and today she's been willing to hop onto almost anybody to take suspicion off of herself.

Of course I am! I even said as much! If you were a virgin with the most votes on you, would you just lay down and accept your fate? I'm playing this game for the innocents, not for myself. Sure, I've not made any alliances yet, but I've read too many books about people who've trusted someone too early and paid it for their lives, and I can relate to those characters very closely.

It has never been my intention to stir up confusion, Mehmet's done most of that all by himself. I don't think my votes have been any more erratic than anyone else's - save for my first vote yesterday. I've never voted for anyone who I did not agree could be guilty (although admittedly that's just about everyone at this point).

So I still don't know what I'm doing that's so scummy and wrong and crazy. I might've acted overly cautious and doubtful when it comes to trusting people, but that's just who I've become with my experience.

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People seem keen to verify your trustworthiness first before getting rid of you, even though I'm still of the opinion that we'd be better off with you dead. But this is not a single-player game, and I'm obviously not the one calling the shots here, so I have to go with the second-best option.

I'm really curious; in case you're innocent, how exactly are you planning to protect yourself from conversion, if someone has that kind of an ability?

If I'm telling the truth, how are we better off with me dead. How is that "holding all options open?" You contradict yourself in the same paragraph!! I've answered to the conversion possibility. I doubt I can be converted. If I am, how could I possibly continue to give the true results. Somebody would call me out on giving false results. Would I be Scum and forced to give up the Scum that the Nocturnal Skillers are uncovering??

If you're not with us then you're against us... Is that how it's going to go down? :tongue:

I would call that a Scum move on your part. Boiling down what I said to a simple sound bite. Perhaps you'd make a good politician. No, I didn't pull a "Zephyr" :tongue: and send out 11 random messages. As I said, I left "easter eggs" in my posts and 11 people were able to decipher them based on their roles. Is that why you were afraid to have a conversation with me? You knew you couldn't be verified by my hidden code??

I'm fine keeping my vote where it is for now. Does anyone else find it odd that the three pointing their fingers at each other, Nadir, Malaena and Jennifer are on a list of reasonable suspects?

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I'm fine keeping my vote where it is for now. Does anyone else find it odd that the three pointing their fingers at each other, Nadir, Malaena and Jennifer are on a list of reasonable suspects?

I'm defending myself. If it gets down to a tie I'll vote Jennifer, but I'm keeping my tender little digits to myself. :sweet:

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I'm fine keeping my vote where it is for now. Does anyone else find it odd that the three pointing their fingers at each other, Nadir, Malaena and Jennifer are on a list of reasonable suspects?

No. :sweet:

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I agree that Malaena is probably Scum and I would add Hans to that too, but I don't think Ms. Taylor is off the hook. Especially since she keeps insisting that voting first means she's Town. :hmpf: Reverse psychology: If I vote first, I'm automatically not Scum! And she didn't vote first on Day One, she infamously voted second.

:hmpf: What have I done that could possibly be seen as scummy? Is it because I don't talk much?

It's rather hard to create and explain points when your topic is already a few pages back and doesn't really apply anymore. At any rate, I believe I already did weigh in on saying that I believe we're looking in the wrong direction. There's a chance that both Jennifer and Hugh are townies/campies and are both misguided. There's a chance that all the "active" (I.E.: Jennifer, Mehmet, Patrick) people are all on the same side and don't even realize it. That's only my views, though.

In my opinion, I believe that when we find out who the cultists are we'll all be shocked because they're the ones that aren't flailing their arms around screaming. They're likely the ones that post so it looks like they're actively participating.

I'm eagerly awaiting tomorrow morning, when Mehmet's list of contacts will have new information or something important to say hopefully. Other than that, I don't know where to vote from here.

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You know what Nocturnal Skill this game needs? A Virgin megablocker. That way we can megabluck all the Virgins and take away the Cultist's ability to sacrifice them. Actually, why don't we just megabluck all the virgins right now. Consentually, of course. I'm not a monster. That would be a fun game. Even better, let's dissolve this lynch mob and make it a megabluck mob. We'll nominate the most likely Virgin's and megabluck them. That way, the worst that happens is we have good sex with an experienced non-virgin. :sweet: That's a fun game.

Let me go on the record as saying I can't stand that we have to stop the Cultists from sacrificing certain among us. It's really making this game twice as difficult and is breaking my brain even more than normal. megablock Cultists... :hmpf_bad:

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And seriously, in your opinion I should've just started privately discussing my virginity with some people, hoping that they would rise to defend me? No, unlike you I'm without allies in this game of life. There was nobody to turn to, so I had to reveal my virginity to the public. I simply had no other option, not with nine votes already against me.

Maybe if you had taken your time and given your reasons calmly in private chat then I would have listened, the fact that it took me 3 or 4 times asking you to address my points was what hasn't made me unvote you. Nine votes can easily be lowered, its just about replying in the right way.

It's really making this game twice as difficult and is breaking my brain even more than normal. megablock Cultists... :hmpf_bad:

I kinda agree, plus since it was revealed on Day 1 and 2 virgins are dead, it seems we are at a serious setback. I said otherwise earlier but its getting harder and harder. :def_shrug:

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Vote Tally

Mehmet Attabar (Hinckley): 1 vote (Scubacarrot)

Jennifer Taylor (Sandy): 7 votes (Eskallon, fhomess, Hinckley, Brickdoctor, ADHO15, Cecilie, CorneliusMurdock)

Ophelia Balls (fhomess): 1 vote (KielDaMan)

Melaena Stools (CallMePie): 3 votes (def, JimButcher, Sandy)

Mellifluous Murgatroyd (Scubacarrot): 2 votes (Professor Flitwick, Zepher)

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Vote Tally

Mehmet Attabar (Hinckley): 1 vote (Scubacarrot)

Jennifer Taylor (Sandy): 7 votes (Eskallon, fhomess, Hinckley, Brickdoctor, ADHO15, Cecilie, CorneliusMurdock)

Ophelia Balls (fhomess): 1 vote (KielDaMan)

Melaena Stools (CallMePie): 3 votes (def, JimButcher, Sandy)

Mellifluous Murgatroyd (Scubacarrot): 2 votes (Professor Flitwick, Zepher)

Aw geez. If the people I think are scum are scum, then they're all voting for each other right now... :sceptic:

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Everyone listen. I have a reason to keep Jennifer around.

The role of Virgin is a BAD ONE FOR CULTISTS TO CLAIM. Roger can check that out in the night. But losing a virgin is awful, we've already lost two. Why not keep her around for a night and whack off another one of the high suspects, have Roger check her out, and if she's not a Virgin she HAS to be a cultists, since no innocent would claim virgin if they weren't one, as it would lead directly to the cultists killing them. I think a virgin is too much to lose, even potentially, so why not test her out in the way that we know WORKS.

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Everyone listen. I have a reason to keep Jennifer around.

The role of Virgin is a BAD ONE FOR CULTISTS TO CLAIM. Roger can check that out in the night. But losing a virgin is awful, we've already lost two. Why not keep her around for a night and whack off another one of the high suspects, have Roger check her out, and if she's not a Virgin she HAS to be a cultists, since no innocent would claim virgin if they weren't one, as it would lead directly to the cultists killing them. I think a virgin is too much to lose, even potentially, so why not test her out in the way that we know WORKS.

But we need to verify Roger too then. We can't have him confirming people for us if we don't know if he's a Cultist or not. He roleclaims to avoid the lynch and now most everyone's suspicion is off of him. If he's a Cultist and Jennifer is too, then tomorrow they're both just like "Oh yeah, Jennifer is cleared. Someone protect her for the rest of the game, please." :wacko: Your plan would work better without public knowledge...

I don't trust Roger at this point. If he's Scum and lying, it's way too easy for him to skirt through the rest of the game on that one claim.

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He was being a total megablocks that day.

First of all, get a life and grow up, baby :laugh: This is not a situation of "vote out the person with the attitude you dislike". It's a situation of "look out for your team".

But, Nadir has pointed out something incredibly useful here. You did support me before that, letting him know that I was useful to town. "Fitzy over there may be a bit squeaky on the hinges, but at least he knows who to scribble down in that little notebook of his. " Then, you decide to vote for me when there are a base of votes there. I think with your bad karma from your past lives, yeah, that's what you would do. Support me when there are no votes to stay on my good side (sorry, I hadn't even read it either :blush: ), and then take the chance to get me out when you can.

What we can see from this is that you publicly implied I was an asset to the town, then tried to take a chance to get me out when the numbers were in your favor.

Your crime is worse than Taylor's. She plays with a poor strategy (sorry to reiterate that, Taylor, it's simply part of a dramatic structure), while you're playing with an anti-town one... floating in back and merging with the group, only speaking up to take out the people you want gone. You wanted me gone for either personal reasons or for scum reasons (or both :oh: ), but either way, you were going against the statement you had made only a short while before, highlighting my use to the camp.

Town, I speak to you, from this poor, humble virgin's heart. Let's lynch this hypocrite Stools. Let's clean up this godforsaken camp by taking out someone who isn't a team player.

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megablocking megablok! :rofl:

Virgin claims are easily verified, either by the Virgin Cop, or by the tracker (since there will be nothing to track), so let's leave Taylor till tomorrow, when she can introduce a great new strategy... maybe alphabetical voting or something :laugh:

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Virgin claims are easily verified, either by the Virgin Cop, or by the tracker (since there will be nothing to track), so let's leave Taylor till tomorrow, when she can introduce a great new strategy... maybe alphabetical voting or something :laugh:

Exactly what I've been saying. Virgin is actually the WEAKEST claim for scums. That's why I want to keep Jennifer alive for someone to test. Even if they choose to not use their nocturnal actions, our tracker works as a block.

For the purpose of upsetting the vote on her:

Unvote: Mellifluous Murgatroyd (Scubacarrot), Vote: Melaena Stools (CallMePieOrDie)

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That's not a smart vote. I don't like you. Especially since your play is about what could happen, not what did. Don't confuse people, Captain. It's irresponsible. That's a hasty vote and unwise.

I hate to tell you this old chap, but I'm not really here to make friends.

Of course it's about what could happen! I was trying to explain to Ms. Murrygold of the repercussions of my contact (the virgin I found last night) vouching for me, which is what she wanted. Had my accomplice and I done what she asked, we'd of been playing right into the cultists hands. Hardly an unwise vote if what she was asking for was for us to practically lend the cultists a helping hand.

But we need to verify Roger too then. We can't have him confirming people for us if we don't know if he's a Cultist or not. He roleclaims to avoid the lynch and now most everyone's suspicion is off of him. If he's a Cultist and Jennifer is too, then tomorrow they're both just like "Oh yeah, Jennifer is cleared. Someone protect her for the rest of the game, please." :wacko: Your plan would work better without public knowledge...

I don't trust Roger at this point. If he's Scum and lying, it's way too easy for him to skirt through the rest of the game on that one claim.

I did ask earlier, if any followers or such are out there, to follow me. Surely you, with your vast network of alliances, would be able to get someone to verify me tonight, eh-what?

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Wait wait wait! I mostly agree with you two, but it's not that easily verified!!!

Come on now. Does every Scum have a Night Action??? Vanilla Scum can claim Virgin and then sit there and do nothing and the tracker can say "They did nothing." Especially if they can swap the kill around. The tracker can not verify Virgin claims.

But Ms. Stools is on my list, so if we think it's a good idea to spare the scummy Ms. Taylor, I have no problem switching my vote. Especially since I am inclined to trust Ahmet and Patrick.

Unvote: Jennifer Taylor (Sandy)

Vote: Malaena Stools (CallMePieOrDie)

:hmpf:

Any more Virgin claims though, and I'm unvoting and staying unvoted. If we keep getting Virgin claims, it's best to vote nobody at all. God knows we have a ton of voting patterns to look at already with all these switched votes! And stop claiming Virgin publicly! We only seem to have three protectors and one has this ridiculous side effect that nobody understands quite yet. If the Cultists swoop in at the last minute to take advantage of nobody voting, we can easily get rid of that person at night, or by lynch tomorrow.

I hate to tell you this old chap, but I'm not really here to make friends.

...

I did ask earlier, if any followers or such are out there, to follow me. Surely you, with your vast network of alliances, would be able to get someone to verify me tonight, eh-what?

Oh shove eh-what in your ear. :tongue: My network is busy verifying me tonight since the stupid framer latched onto me or the investigator Patrick is talking to is a lying Cultist pig. :hmpf: We'll verify you as soon as we can. Get in line.

I love you.

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Who let the swift-boaters in here?

I hate political ads, but I can't help but follow this one. It's so pink... :blush:

Wait, wait. I see Malaena is about to speak. Here comes a public Virgin claim. What a load of stools. :hmpf:

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Unvote: Jennifer Taylor (Sandy). Vote: Malaena Stools (CallMePieOrDie). I'm in no mode to be losing any virgins today.

Oh shove eh-what in your ear. :tongue: My network is busy verifying me tonight since the stupid framer latched onto me or the investigator Patrick is talking to is a lying Cultist pig. :hmpf: We'll verify you as soon as we can. Get in line.

Fhwa! That is a jolly painful experience, dontcha know!

I love you.

I know.

Gets lowered into Carbon Freezing Chamber.

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