Professor Flitwick Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Oh fiddlesticks, I wasn't voting for Ms. Taylor in the first place! That'll teach me to copy/paste off people when changing my vote. Unvote: Mellifluous Murgatroyd (Scubacarrot). Vote: Malaena Stools (CallMePieOrDie)
CMP Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Sorry. Power outage. I mean- lost my voice. First of all, get a life and grow up, baby This is not a situation of "vote out the person with the attitude you dislike". It's a situation of "look out for your team". But, Nadir has pointed out something incredibly useful here. You did support me before that, letting him know that I was useful to town. "Fitzy over there may be a bit squeaky on the hinges, but at least he knows who to scribble down in that little notebook of his. " Then, you decide to vote for me when there are a base of votes there. I think with your bad karma from your past lives, yeah, that's what you would do. Support me when there are no votes to stay on my good side (sorry, I hadn't even read it either ), and then take the chance to get me out when you can. What we can see from this is that you publicly implied I was an asset to the town, then tried to take a chance to get me out when the numbers were in your favor. Your crime is worse than Taylor's. She plays with a poor strategy (sorry to reiterate that, Taylor, it's simply part of a dramatic structure), while you're playing with an anti-town one... floating in back and merging with the group, only speaking up to take out the people you want gone. You wanted me gone for either personal reasons or for scum reasons (or both ), but either way, you were going against the statement you had made only a short while before, highlighting my use to the camp. Town, I speak to you, from this poor, humble virgin's heart. Let's lynch this hypocrite Stools. Let's clean up this godforsaken camp by taking out someone who isn't a team player. megablocking megablok! Virgin claims are easily verified, either by the Virgin Cop, or by the tracker (since there will be nothing to track), so let's leave Taylor till tomorrow, when she can introduce a great new strategy... maybe alphabetical voting or something I've gotten over the fact that you're an megablocks. If you take one statement as support, ignoring the vote I later put out for you, you're as hypocritical as a Scottish Korean. If you take that one statement as a 'public implication you're town', that's....well, I have no idea what that is. I wanted you gone for several reasons. You suck is a small, minor one. There that was borderline insane behavior you exhibited most of the day. You kept calling out Mehmet on his roleplaying, and I'd assume somebody of your experience would know he's always like that. Perhaps you don't understand what a Day One lynch is. It's a lynch where we do everything based on behavior. If you can look me in the eye and tell me your behavior was perfectly normal on Day One, you're a liar. If you ever die, I want you to look back in hindsight at your Day One posts. But enough with the baseless stuff - 5 other people voted for you that day. Because I'm not entirely active, you're singling me out of them. The point is, it was Day One. You've been quoted as being towns by Mehmet, other people take his word for it, and I've decided to do so as well. I haven't brought up a word against you since. Please explain where I've been hypocritical. If it's about my no-voting speech (which somebody has finally read, thank you ), I just told Nadir why - I had no idea lynching would be counted a sacrifice, which judging by Imhotep's hunger, it does. So I'm not going to vote unless it A, a case in which I'm sure the votee is scum, or B, is the decision between my life or death. That's not being hypocritical. That's called adapting to the situation. Exactly what I've been saying. Virgin is actually the WEAKEST claim for scums. That's why I want to keep Jennifer alive for someone to test. Even if they choose to not use their nocturnal actions, our tracker works as a block. For the purpose of upsetting the vote on her: Unvote: Mellifluous Murgatroyd (Scubacarrot), Vote: Melaena Stools (CallMePieOrDie) Well, you say this is for the purpose of saving Jennifer. So...okay. Wait wait wait! I mostly agree with you two, but it's not that easily verified!!! Come on now. Does every Scum have a Night Action??? Vanilla Scum can claim Virgin and then sit there and do nothing and the tracker can say "They did nothing." Especially if they can swap the kill around. The tracker can not verify Virgin claims. But Ms. Stools is on my list, so if we think it's a good idea to spare the scummy Ms. Taylor, I have no problem switching my vote. Especially since I am inclined to trust Ahmet and Patrick. Unvote: Jennifer Taylor (Sandy) Vote: Malaena Stools (CallMePieOrDie) Any more Virgin claims though, and I'm unvoting and staying unvoted. If we keep getting Virgin claims, it's best to vote nobody at all. God knows we have a ton of voting patterns to look at already with all these switched votes! And stop claiming Virgin publicly! We only seem to have three protectors and one has this ridiculous side effect that nobody understands quite yet. If the Cultists swoop in at the last minute to take advantage of nobody voting, we can easily get rid of that person at night, or by lynch tomorrow. Oh shove eh-what in your ear. My network is busy verifying me tonight since the stupid framer latched onto me or the investigator Patrick is talking to is a lying Cultist pig. We'll verify you as soon as we can. Get in line. I love you. Same reason as Ahmed, it seems. Understandable.
def Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 If you take that one statement as a 'public implication you're town', that's....well, I have no idea what that is. That's not what I wrote. Probably why you don't know what it means I wanted you gone for several reasons. You suck is a small, minor one. Sure thing, Pool Cue There that was borderline insane behavior you exhibited most of the day. You kept calling out Mehmet on his roleplaying, and I'd assume somebody of your experience would know he's always like that. I most certainly did not call him out on his roleplaying. You can tell by the fact that I never wrote anything of the sort Perhaps you don't understand what a Day One lynch is. It's a lynch where we do everything based on behavior. If you can look me in the eye and tell me your behavior was perfectly normal on Day One, you're a liar. Oh, it was perfectly normal. I'm not lying. If there was Skype here in this desert, I would... Oh who am I kidding, I wouldn't waste the time. But, my absolute disdain for those who voted for me day one is a great example of the degree to which I think it was not only normal, but pro-town! If you ever die, I want you to look back in hindsight at your Day One posts. But enough with the baseless stuff - 5 other people voted for you that day. Because I'm not entirely active, you're singling me out of them. I singled out Taylor already, and Mehmet on day one. I can tell you aren't keeping a notebook The point is, it was Day One. You've been quoted as being towns by Mehmet, other people take his word for it, and I've decided to do so as well. I haven't brought up a word against you since. Why would you? Nobody would support it. And abstaining from a vote on day two when there are five candidates doesn't make you look any more town. Please explain where I've been hypocritical. If it's about my no-voting speech (which somebody has finally read, thank you ), I just told Nadir why - I had no idea lynching would be counted a sacrifice, which judging by Imhotep's hunger, it does. So I'm not going to vote unless it A, a case in which I'm sure the votee is scum, or B, is the decision between my life or death. That's not being hypocritical. That's called adapting to the situation I think it's hypocritical to imply I'm an asset to town, then vote me out with a group. That's why I wrote it in the paragraph summarizing my previous statements. I don't know if you're scum, but you're scummy, and your defense isn't doing you any favors. " That's why I wrote it in the paragraph summarizing my previous statements. " That's why I wrote it in the paragraph before I summarized my statements, calling you hypocritical. Sorry, confusing structure there
CMP Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 That's not what I wrote. Probably why you don't know what it means "Fitzy over there may be a bit squeaky on the hinges, but at least he knows who to scribble down in that little notebook of his." "What we can see from this is that you publicly implied I was an asset to the town, then tried to take a chance to get me out when the numbers were in your favor." Sure thing, Pool Cue :shrug: I most certainly did not call him out on his roleplaying. You can tell by the fact that I never wrote anything of the sort Whoops. Your word for it was spam posts, my mistake. Oh, it was perfectly normal. I'm not lying. If there was Skype here in this desert, I would... Oh who am I kidding, I wouldn't waste the time. But, my absolute disdain for those who voted for me day one is a great example of the degree to which I think it was not only normal, but pro-town! Well, that's your absolute disdain, not me. You can see from the posts following your...er, raving, that pretty much everybody was questioning what the hell is wrong with you. I singled out Taylor already, and Mehmet on day one. I can tell you aren't keeping a notebook Oh, so you're only concerned about the people who voted for you? Duly noted. Why would you? Nobody would support it. And abstaining from a vote on day two when there are five candidates doesn't make you look any more town. Because I trust Mehmet, as does seemingly everybody else, not to mention him being scum and having managed to do all this so far is too hilarious to take seriously. And I have explained everything concerning my vote abstaining in the post where I stated I was going to abstain anyway. Not much else to say on it. I think it's hypocritical to imply I'm an asset to town, then vote me out with a group. That's why I wrote it in the paragraph summarizing my previous statements. I didn't imply you were an asset to the town. I was saying you were right to be suspicious of Nadir. Sounds funky, but the scum would gladly making a observation of somebody acting scummy. I don't know if you're scum, but you're scummy, and your defense isn't doing you any favors. My defense isn't over, and personally, I'm pretty proud of it so far. Just because you didn't make it doesn't mean it's not good. But that's my deepset hatred of you. We've all got some of it.
Hinckley Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Let's take a break from the Malaena Stools saga and watch a little play. I think I've caught a liar. Inspector Harriet the Super Sleuth and the Mystery of the Psycho Psychiatrist Freud: I notice everyone's claiming to you. I hate to join the lemmings, but I'm the Psychiatrist. (Harriet takes her magnifying glass out of her bag and examines Freud.) Inspector Harriet the Super Slut: Oh, is that so? Please tell me more about your role. It sounds bloody intriguing. Pip pip! Cheery-O! I'm British! Long live the Queen and all that poppicock! Bewaaaaa! Freud: What's the matter with you? Inspector Harriet the Super Slut: Nothing, old chap! Just had some fish and chips, eh-what? Freud: You're annoying. Inspector Harriet the Super Slut: I've just found my jersey in the boot of my trolley and I took the lift and had to run to the loo and I've eaten some fish and chips. Freud: Can you please pay attention?? Inspector Harriet the Super Slut: Fine. You're no fun. Freud: I'm the Psychiatrist. I can turn the Serial Killer back into a Campie. Inspector Harriet the Super Slut: Pip pip! Freud: Huh? (Harriet inspects Freud's ears with the magnifying glass.) Inspector Harriet the Super Slut: I said, Pip pip! All British people say that. Jolly-O. Can't you hear? Freud: This is significant, though! It's really helpful. It proves there is a Serial Killer. There was no serial killing last night though so the killer was either blocked or the correct person was protected. That means something, doesn't it? (Harriet pull out her pipe and smokes it) Man from Audience: You're that man from Nantucket!!! Inspector Harriet the Super Slut: I believe that you are a Cultist, Mr. Freud! (The audience collectively gasps.) Freud: No, I'm not. I'm the psychiatrist. Inspector Harriet the Super Slut: Now, I shall leave this part up to the audience. Can you tell how I came to the conclusion that Freud is a Cultist? Why do I think he's lying? What in his explanation is fishy...and chippy? Pip pip! To be continued... By you. Continued by audience participation. Anybody see it? You know where Freud slipped up? I do.
Hinckley Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Freud has pretty much thrown in the towel in private, but I'll wait and give everyone a chance to analyze the play and see if they can find the lie. Today's lynch should turn out to be easy.
def Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Just in brief, in case you actually think you made a defense... "Fitzy over there may be a bit squeaky on the hinges, but at least he knows who to scribble down in that little notebook of his." "What we can see from this is that you publicly implied I was an asset to the town, then tried to take a chance to get me out when the numbers were in your favor." You said I said you implied I was 'town' (and even had it in quotes), while I wrote, 'an asset to town'. Different things, particularly on day one when nobody is cleared. So, you are wrong. Whoops. Your word for it was spam posts, my mistake. Spam is not role-playing. Role-playing is when I say, "You could say Ra told me," since we're in Egypt, you know? So maybe your word spamming is role-playing, but my word for role-playing is not spamming. So, you are wrong. Well, that's your absolute disdain, not me. You can see from the posts following your...er, raving, that pretty much everybody was questioning what the hell is wrong with you. Yeah, well, they were all wrong, weren't they? Oh, so you're only concerned about the people who voted for you? Duly noted. Nope, I've named others. I was replying to your accusation that I "singled" you out, and I was pointing out that there were two others, so I suppose you were "tripled" or "thirded"... So, you are wrong. ****A reminder to all the townies out there: when making a defense, an honest, town defense, it's best to be straight with your accusations, because manipulating what was said to suit your story looks scummy. Case in point: Stools says I singled her out of all that voted for me. I retort that I voted for two others as well (not in any way limiting the people I have suspicions of to simply those three, which can further be supported by past statements in thread where I have called out others). Stools then makes the logical fallacy of stating that I'm "only concerned about the people who voted for (me)". This is a dangerous defense, since it's both so sneaky looking, and wrong. Townies, don't defend yourself in this way. Scum, please do, it makes it easier to call you out. Because I trust Mehmet, as does seemingly everybody else, not to mention him being scum and having managed to do all this so far is too hilarious to take seriously. And I have explained everything concerning my vote abstaining in the post where I stated I was going to abstain anyway. Not much else to say on it. Fair enough. Not voting is still not a town strategy when there are so many heads on the chopping block. I didn't imply you were an asset to the town. I was saying you were right to be suspicious of Nadir. Sounds funky, but the scum would gladly making a observation of somebody acting scummy. Huh? If I was right to be suspicious of Nadir, why not vote for him then? My defense isn't over, and personally, I'm pretty proud of it so far. Just because you didn't make it doesn't mean it's not good. But that's my deepset hatred of you. We've all got some of it. I think it's quite possible to make good defenses, while at the same time, not be me. It has occurred. I'll let you know if you ever make one
Bob Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 You know you've gotten way to into this game...of life, when you're making banners to advertise who to sacrifice. Vote: Melaena Stools (CallMePieOrDie) If only to get this day over with and not split the vote anymore.
JimBee Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 They said that there was no serial killing last night. How would they know whether or not the killing was a serial killing or a cultist killing? Is that it? Did I get it? I can't tune in next week, so just tell me now.
CMP Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 They said that there was no serial killing last night. How would they know whether or not the killing was a serial killing or a cultist killing? Is that it? Did I get it? I can't tune in next week, so just tell me now. If the serial killers feed their victims to the statue, then they should just be called 'independent cultist'.
Hinckley Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 They said that there was no serial killing last night. How would they know whether or not the killing was a serial killing or a cultist killing? Is that it? Did I get it? I can't tune in next week, so just tell me now. Well we know there was a cultist killing. We can tell because he fed the body to the statue. Or maybe all killings end up in the statue's mouth. The Vig's method of killing makes me think it's possible for his victims to end up in that statue anyway... But you're close. It was him commenting on the potential activity surrounding the serial killer last night. He left something out. Something that should have been foremost on his mind if he actually is the psychiatrist. Wouldn't Is and Ossie be cruel to give us a serial killer in this game? Isn't protecting the Virgins and trying to find the Cultists...and figuring out the mirror enough without a serial killer??? How could you keep a balance with this concept if there were a serial killer. I think the third party thing is just a patsy. Part of the rules to keep us on our toes. I don't think we have to worry about the serial killer any'ing us. Anyone else have a guess as to why I don't believe Freud?
Brickdoctor Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 If the serial killers feed their victims to the statue, then they should just be called 'independent cultist'. But that would make it possible for the Scum to lose if the SK killed enough Virgins. I think we've been over this already. Don't get me wrong, it would be great if that were the case, but it doesn't make sense to me. It would be too easy for the Town to win. (probably with the SK) Also, what would happen if all the Virgins died but the Scum didn't kill enough of them, and then the Scum killed everyone else? (Townies and Independents alike) Then no one's win condition would be fulfilled. (the Town [and Virgins] would have failed to eliminate the Cultists, the Cultists would have failed to kill enough Virgins, and the Independent [i'm guessing at their win condition(s), but the assumption I make is a logical one] would have failed to survive)
Hinckley Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 But that would make it possible for the Scum to lose if the SK killed enough Virgins. I think we've been over this already. Don't get me wrong, it would be great if that were the case, but it doesn't make sense to me. It would be too easy for the Town to win. (probably with the SK) Also, what would happen if all the Virgins died but the Scum didn't kill enough of them, and then the Scum killed everyone else? (Townies and Independents alike) Then no one's win condition would be fulfilled. (the Town [and Virgins] would have failed to eliminate the Cultists, the Cultists would have failed to kill enough Virgins, and the Independent [i'm guessing at their win condition(s), but the assumption I make is a logical one] would have failed to survive) So, it's possible for none of us to win this?
CMP Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 So, it's possible for none of us to win this? Gaah! I knew we were hunting witches!
Brickdoctor Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 So, it's possible for none of us to win this? It appears to me that that is the case if not all the kills are fed to the statue.
Hinckley Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Inspector Harriet the Super Sleuth and the Mysterious Case of the Psychotic Psychiatrist Part II Inspector Harriet the Super Slut: So, Mister Freud answer me something pipping as quickly as you pipping can pip-pip! Freud: Fine. Inspector Harriet the Super Slut: If you were, as you claim, attempting to convert the Serial Killer to a Campie, then why did you say the serial killer must've been blocked or the target protected, Cheery-pip, eh-what? Freud: Like I told you, you know what people are doing, you probably have some idea who was blocked or protected. Inspector Harriet the Super Slut: Agreed, sir! Quite true, Pip-Cheery-Pip-O! But, if you were truly attempting to hunt the serial killer, I believe your sentence would have started with "My action wasn't successful last night, so he must've been blocked or the target protected..." I don't expect you to offer up immediately who your target was last night, but the information or idea is completely missing from our interactions. I tried to convert someone, but wasn't successful. Even after I told you I didn't believe you, there was no mention of your activities from Night One! Freud: But I have a picture! Inspector Harriet the Super Slut: It's against the rules to share those. Freud: Fine. Inspector Harriet the Super Slut: But, if you do have an object, then you are called a certain something. The others who are carrying objects have a sub category. What is it called. Freud: It's against the rules to use the structure of your role PM to your advantage. Inspector Harriet the Super Slut: Touché. Freud: But if it helps me, I'm called the Snake Charmer. Inspector Harriet the Super Slut: So then what's the picture of? Freud: A snake. Inspector Harriet the Super Slut: A snake charmer uses a snake? You use the snake to poison people don't you. Freud: No, I use the snake to ... charm people. Inspector Harriet the Super Slut: Well, if you are a serial killer and you use a snake to bite them, I suppose that's inline with my idea that the body ends up in the statue. The snake bites someone, they're poisoned, so they collapse and the cultists come and throw them in the statue. Or God makes them stumble into the statue. Freud: I'm a psychiatrist. Inspector Harriet the Super Slut: What did you do last night then? You didn't even think to tell me you attempted to convert someone and it was unsuccessful. Why did you leave that out? In case you were tracked or watched? Did you try to kill someone? Patrick maybe? Disappointed that he was protected? I think you tried to kill Patrick last night with your snake. The End. There. What do you guys think?
MagPiesRUs Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 I'm leaning towards Ms. Stools myself, for the reasons Mr. Fitzwilliam and Mr. Zenith have brought up (and in addition, for voting for Ms. Balls yesterday, with the reasoning: "I don't truly believe you to be a cultist", but I'll vote for you anyway because you're stupid). Although I see Mehmet seems to have another suspect. The issue I can see is what the serial killer would become once they are converted. I mean, psychiatrists usually convert serial killers into vanilla townies, but in this game it would detrimental to the camp, as it would grant the cultists one more virgin in which to sacrifice. I suppose it could be possible for the serial killer to retain their night kill action once they've been converted, but I don't know, that sounds a little too good to be true. I feel that voting for those who have made action claims should be our priority today. We can't risk voting out more claimed virgins, especially when we have a tracker and a virgin cop to verify these claims tomorrow.
Brickdoctor Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 That is one confusing claimed night action. What the MegaBloks does being a snake charmer have to do with converting Independents into Townies? I realize that normally there's no connection between elements of the story and mechanics of the game, but converting SKs by being a snake charmer doesn't seem likely to me. Both the action report and the action claim seem suspicious to me. I Unvote: Jennifer Taylor (Sandy) and Vote: Melaena Stools (CallMePieOrDie).
Hinckley Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 That is one confusing claimed night action. What the MegaBloks does being a snake charmer have to do with converting Independents into Townies? I realize that normally there's no connection between elements of the story and mechanics of the game, but converting SKs by being a snake charmer doesn't seem likely to me. Both the action report and the action claim seem suspicious to me. I Unvote: Jennifer Taylor (Sandy) and Vote: Melaena Stools (CallMePieOrDie). Supposedly the snake's name is Nancy and when it bites the victim it renders that person sane. WTF??
CMP Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Supposedly the snake's name is Nancy and when it bites the victim it renders that person sane. WTF?? When cloaks are mirrors, and mirrors are cloaks, there's something terribly wrong with the world.
Brickdoctor Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Supposedly the snake's name is Nancy and when it bites the victim it renders that person sane. WTF??
CorneliusMurdock Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 That's certainly, um, special. How much would one pay an hour for this wizard of Psychiatry? Or do you pay in mice for Nancy?
WhiteFang Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Now, I understands about the conditions. Exactly what I've been saying. Virgin is actually the WEAKEST claim for scums. That's why I want to keep Jennifer alive for someone to test. Even if they choose to not use their nocturnal actions, our tracker works as a block. I agreed with you completely. Come on now. Does every Scum have a Night Action??? Vanilla Scum can claim Virgin and then sit there and do nothing and the tracker can say "They did nothing." Especially if they can swap the kill around. The tracker can not verify Virgin claims. Why it can't be possible? In worst case scenario, I will only believe that the killing can be transferred among the cultists, whereas the rest of the whole gang will still continue using their devious actions in the night to do what they do best. The tracker can at least verify if the person who claimed virgin is staying still as he/she had claimed in public. It is random and it is a risk for the cultists to take. If the virgin has a night action and was caught in night, then this virgin might not be "virgin" as he/she claims to be. It is a gamble. Here is my vote too, Vote: Malaena Stools (CallMePieOrDie)
Hinckley Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 That's certainly, um, special. How much would one pay an hour for this wizard of Psychiatry? Or do you pay in mice for Nancy? Yeah, technically, the snake is the psychiatrist. I didn't go to school for psychiatry, I went for sluts, but I did take Intro and it said nothing about snakes. Leaches, yes. Snakes, no. Some cultures use snake venom as psychiatric medication though...like the nation of Nowhere.
CMP Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 The tracker can at least verify if the person who claimed virgin is staying still as he/she had claimed in public. It is random and it is a risk for the cultists to take. If the virgin has a night action and was caught in night, then this virgin might not be "virgin" as he/she claims to be. It is a gamble. Or you could just have your flavor cop designed to check on the virginity of people do it. Some cultures use snake venom as psychiatric medication though...like the nation of Nowhere. We're in the Saqqara....god knows what goes on here. Look what the desert did to Percy! His chest was as pink as one of those strawberry flavored marshmallows.
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