ADHO15 Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 An out-of-place cabin, a giant statue, a hatch, a polar bear, dynamite and ancient egyptian links? This place is unusual to say the least, but also seems somewhat familiar. Anyway, another day, another hat. Who likes my pretty blue bowler? Quite a charming headpiece, if I do say so myself. It is a shame that we lost two 'pure ones' so quickly. Are these definitely Virgins or is that just how non-Cultists are confirmed? I think it is time for this camel to do some mingling...
Hinckley Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 Well, he did harass me for all of day one, before leading a lynch on me, forcing me to reveal my Virgin status, before switching his vote eighteen times, before settling on a different Virgin to lynch. I think his Innocent status has been perfectly confirmed by this point Haven't you sent him all your information yet? Whatever has happened has happened. We need to put that behind us. I believe we have both apologized. I could use your help in verifying certain people, so perhaps it's time we worked together.
fhomess Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 I need to go back through my notes on day 1, but I don't think anyone voted for Percy or even cast much suspicion his way. Seems like a fairly safe approach from cultists who are trying to avoid casting suspicion back at them. It's almost certain that there were cultists among the frantic vote switchers toward the end of the day, and also almost certain that not all of them were a part of it. Mehmet, given that we've had one night kill, but have a protector, blocker, and vigilante... I would think that you could work with those people to be able to verify claims. It'd be quite useful to know if Percy's death really was a cultist attack (which I strongly suspect it was based on him being fed to IMHOTEP), but at least it'll get us closer. Also, it's worth pointing out that just because there was only one night kill, doesn't mean the vigilante was blocked. An innocent friendly vigilante may have elected not to kill anyone if they weren't sure of who to kill, or may have a limited number of bullets.
Hinckley Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 I need to go back through my notes on day 1, but I don't think anyone voted for Percy or even cast much suspicion his way. Seems like a fairly safe approach from cultists who are trying to avoid casting suspicion back at them. It's almost certain that there were cultists among the frantic vote switchers toward the end of the day, and also almost certain that not all of them were a part of it. Mehmet, given that we've had one night kill, but have a protector, blocker, and vigilante... I would think that you could work with those people to be able to verify claims. It'd be quite useful to know if Percy's death really was a cultist attack (which I strongly suspect it was based on him being fed to IMHOTEP), but at least it'll get us closer. Yes, but results are very slow in coming in. I will post an update once I have everything in case my activity is being monitored. Cultists may be able to tell who I'm verifying by what time I decide to post new info. They are sneaky and can check my claims against time zones or even follow me to see if I'm having a private conversation and see who else might be having one at the same time. So please have patience. I have sworn to bring all the info I find to the Campies and will continue to do so. But, I have to be smart and give the cultists no opportunity to learn the true identities of our Virgins and Nocturnally Active Campies. Also, it's worth pointing out that just because there was only one night kill, doesn't mean the vigilante was blocked. An innocent friendly vigilante may have elected not to kill anyone if they weren't sure of who to kill, or may have a limited number of bullets. Perhaps you need some assistance in reading. I said the vigilante told me they planned to target a certain suspect who is still alive today. If he elected not to kill anybody, I think he would've told me. But, you only have my word for that at this point. But don't miss what I'm trying to communicate. He was supposed to target somebody. And I'm using "he" in the generic sense. You know, the sense that we're all men, unless we have boobs. What? But, don't read into the pronouns. OK? I have a terrible cold and keep forgetting to do the "he/she" megablocks. Even the women here are men, and yes Cecilie, all of them.
Waterbrick Down Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 Not too much to add, going to review some day 1 and day 2 again. Ms. Taylor, your thoughts concerning the cook have been duely noted, I'm not to keen on this whole reveal everything to one person who has yet to be confirmed himself and may be possibly converted at some point felling the whole house of cards.
XimenaPaulina Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 Although Percy was not the most active people, there were defenitely less active people around, (perhaps including me), Percy did raise some good questions, most notably his suspicion of Mr. Gordon Bennett. Are the cultists trying to make it look like it was important, because of Percy's clear suspsicion of Mr. Bennett? Because one could argue that his death gave some suspicion to mr. Bennett... I do find it interesting that the one public conflict we saw with Percy revolved around Gordon Bennet. Maluflous is right. It could be Bennet wanted to silence Percy's suspicions and it could be that the Scum wanted to incriminate Gordon. Or the Scum wanted us to think that someone would try to incriminate Gordon and therefore... While I admit that I had a public conflict with Percy yesterday due my annoyance to his repeated questioning of me, it doesn't automatically mean that I am a Cultist does it? If I were a cultist, would it make sense for me to have a public conflict with an Innocent and have my Cultist team kill poor Percy? That would be a dumb scum move on our part if I was part of the Cult as it would just expose ME the next day! THINK GUYS THINK! Though I wouldn't take these against the both of you Mehmet and Ms. Murgatryod, I understand the reasoning behind your suspicion and if I were your in position I would probably do the same thing. If anyone is still suspicious of me, here's what I propose you to do: - Ask me more questions (publicly or privately), and out of respect for Percy for "not answering" his questions right away, I will do my best to address any suspicions you may have on me. - Anyone with a Nocturnal Skill, I very much welcome any investigation on me tonight. - Lynch me so you'll know that I'm one of your fellow Innocents. I'm very much welcome to go through any process to confirm my innocence. And I'll do my damn best to help us rid out these dumb cultists among us. And one last thing: Killing Poor Percy? That's a bastardly COWARDLY move by the Cultists - kinda expected, but totally unfair for someone of the stature as Percy. (STUPID METAGAMERS! GO TO FREAKIN' HELL! ) I'm quite confused as to why people are coming to you and revealing their information. If you ask me, one thing I've learned in my travels is to not trust anyone. Hans, I couldn't agree more. Even if Mehmet was clearly working doubly hard, I was quite surprised that A LOT of people had trusted him on the First Day! I'm in no position to accuse Mehmet of being a Cultist, but if he's indeed a Cultist, then all who revealed their roles to him will be completely ducked up in the coming days. And here I though I was in the company of experienced people. But if he's one of us Innocents, him having a lot of significant info would surely put a HUGE target on him, so he better have some kind of protection on a nightly basis...
Fugazi Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 Despite losing two Virgins last night, there is hope that this town is starting to organise itself in order to fight back. The return of Harriet the Slut is certainly encouraging (not to mention entertaining). Well, he did harass me for all of day one, before leading a lynch on me, forcing me to reveal my Virgin status, before switching his vote eighteen times, before settling on a different Virgin to lynch. I think his Innocent status has been perfectly confirmed by this point Haven't you sent him all your information yet? Ms. Taylor, your thoughts concerning the cook have been duely noted, I'm not to keen on this whole reveal everything to one person who has yet to be confirmed himself and may be possibly converted at some point felling the whole house of cards. You both raise valid concerns. I'm sure that if any townie dealing with Mehmet finds him acting suspiciously, they will sound the alarm. And since there was a sacrifice to Imhotep last night, we can only hope that no conversion has taken place yet. - Lynch me so you'll know that I'm one of your fellow Innocents. You can't be serious.
Hinckley Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 While I admit that I had a public conflict with Percy yesterday due my annoyance to his repeated questioning of me, it doesn't automatically mean that I am a Cultist does it? If I were a cultist, would it make sense for me to have a public conflict with an Innocent and have my Cultist team kill poor Percy? That would be a dumb scum move on our part if I was part of the Cult as it would just expose ME the next day! THINK GUYS THINK! Please read the statement of mine that you quoted. I admit for you to be a cultist you would have to rely on the reverse psychology of our obvious conclusion. Perhaps you've had Fitzdef as a role model for too long as your first instinct is to assume we're not thinking. Hans, I couldn't agree more. Even if Mehmet was clearly working doubly hard, I was quite surprised that A LOT of people had trusted him on the First Day! I'm in no position to accuse Mehmet of being a Cultist, but if he's indeed a Cultist, then all who revealed their roles to him will be completely ducked up in the coming days. And here I though I was in the company of experienced people. But if he's one of us Innocents, him having a lot of significant info would surely put a HUGE target on him, so he better have some kind of protection on a nightly basis... Of course this is true. But as I am now revealing the results I'm getting, I can be watched by the people who's info I'm revealing. If the Scum convert me, it would be quickly become clear that I wasn't revealing correct info anymore. The Scum should know it would be impossible to convert me since it would be so obvious. If they're telling me and I'm immediately reporting the results to everyone, I couldn't play for the Scum without working against them at the same time. I mean, really, Gordon, THINK!
XimenaPaulina Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 Of course this is true. But as I am now revealing the results I'm getting, I can be watched by the people who's info I'm revealing. If the Scum convert me, it would be quickly become clear that I wasn't revealing correct info anymore. The Scum should know it would be impossible to convert me since it would be so obvious. If they're telling me and I'm immediately reporting the results to everyone, I couldn't play for the Scum without working against them at the same time. Of course I am aware that those who've revealed their roles to you will definitely keep a watchful eye on you, and the way you actually put yourself at risk by being in this precarious situation makes me inclined to believe that you are one of us Innocents (and with apologies to my perceived "role model" Mr. Fitzdef, you seem to be the Towniest of the unconfirmed Town). My statement was just an expression of concern, especially knowing some Innocents who are quick (and dumb?) to reveal their "Virginity" to you this early, as I've always thought the best course of action for Virgins is to keep it to themselves as much as possible - to keep these coward Cultists guessing their stupid minds off. The Virgins telling you such vital info, even if kept "confidential" by you, still risks of being revealed to the Cultists in one way or another (slip-ups, blind faith/trust). So I just hope in the best interest of the Town you will do what's best for our cause.
Hinckley Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 (and with apologies to my perceived "role model" Mr. Fitzdef, you seem to be the Towniest of the unconfirmed Town). My statement was just an expression of concern, especially knowing some Innocents who are quick (and dumb?) to reveal their "Virginity" to you this early, as I've always thought the best course of action for Virgins is to keep it to themselves as much as possible I see the Towniest of Town can reveal it to everyone (of course he was forced... by evil me) on Day One, but these other people are dumb to reveal it to me? I see how it is. Sorry. It takes me some time to catch on to things.
JimBee Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 So... are you going to reveal who this liar is, Mehmet? You know, the one who claimed to be both a virgin and have a night action? Or are you still working that out with said person?
Hinckley Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 So... are you going to reveal who this liar is, Mehmet? You know, the one who claimed to be both a virgin and have a night action? Or are you still working that out with said person? What the hell is wrong with you? Nobody claimed to be both. Where do you think I said that? If someone claimed to me to be a virgin and have a Night Action, you'd already have their name. So please point out what you are talking about. I thought I already responded to your misunderstanding earlier.
JimBee Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 Jen said it. Nadir has already said that. Here: So let me get this straight: the innocents with night actions are not virgins, and none of the virgins have night actions. So those two roles are mutually exclusive, right? Now, has anybody been contacted by a person claiming to be both a virgin and having a night action yesterday? Because that person is obviously lying, we can determine that much. Since we can't take anything for face value, even if there is a person like that it would not warrant for an immediate lynch, but it would give us another hint of someone we should not trust. And then you said it was you with the info. So Nadir thought you knew someone that claimed to be both a virgin and have an action. Now Nadir understands that what Jen was saying was hypothetical. A miscommunication. So, if you believe Superman, is there anything else to go on? (Nadir isn't doing the old "so any leads?", it's an honest question.)
fhomess Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 Jen said it. Nadir has already said that. Here: And then you said it was you with the info. So Nadir thought you knew someone that claimed to be both a virgin and have an action. Now Nadir understands that what Jen was saying was hypothetical. A miscommunication. So, if you believe Superman, is there anything else to go on? (Nadir isn't doing the old "so any leads?", it's an honest question.) Yeah, Jen asked the question. It's a bit unfortunate that our hosts revealed so much information about the win conditions as it would've been fairly easy for the virgin and non-virgin innocents to come together eventually and determine that night actions are mutually exclusive for the two groups. In the meantime, it would've been possible that a cultist or other non-innocent would have tried to claim both before they figured out the same thing. Such is life. Anyway, while it seems a bit early to have so many people all trusting Mehmet with their various roles and skills, hopefully we'll get enough information out of it to make a more informed decision today, and by tomorrow, we'll have even more to go on.
Professor Flitwick Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 A spiffingly bad show that we lost two virgins in the night. Although in hindsight, we should've realised that Mr. Freaky-eyes and the Priest were virgins! Bhaa-haa-haa! And, a Polar Bear? In Egypt? I saw a few Polar Bear cadavers when I was in the Sudan (fighting against the fuzzie-wuzzies, dontcha know), but never heard of any in Egypt. Bhaa-haa-haa!
Sandy Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 I'm also extremely worried that if Mehmet truly has all that information in his pocket, the cultists will want to convert him instead of killing him, if they have that ability. Unlike Mehmet himself, I do not see that as an impossible option. He could very well continue feeding us information gotten from people, but at the same time cultists would have a list of virgins that they could just pluck out one by one. What adds my worry is that Mehmet tried to persuade me to reveal what kind of an innocent I am just recently, at which point I just left the discussion. I really do not like the idea of a single player holding all the cards, and if I look at Mehmet's behaviour from these past two days, I can't help but to notice aggressiveness that hints he might be a cultist. This is just me keeping all the options open, though. But people, please consider that before telling Mehmet anything.
WhiteFang Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 Alright, now we are back to square one. It is indeed misfortune that the conviction yesterday ends up as a tragedy and we lost another one among us last night, with an obvious crazy cultist on the loose. No other killings had happened and let's hope we will have a better heading today.
XimenaPaulina Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 I tried to read my notes on what happened yesterday, and I looked back at those who voted for Mr. Fitzsilent, the only confirmed Innocent amongst us so far. One highly interesting incident that really struck my attention is this: Let me refresh all of you: At this particular point in the voting, both Mr. Goodenarde and Mr. Fitz are in a tight battle in the vote tally, with the latter leading by a hairline. Vote Tally Ophelia Balls (fhomess): 1 vote (Professor Flitwick) Ishaq Ettaq (Wuntin): 1 vote (ADHO15) Roger Goodenarde (Professor Flitwick): 4 votes (Scubacarrot, Brickdoctor, CorneliusMurdock, Tamamono) Penelope Farago (Waterbrick Down): 4 votes (TinyPiesRUs, Zepher, KielDaMan, Sandy) Fr Thomas Thomson (Ricecracker): 1 vote (Waterbrick Down) Gordon Bennett (KielDaMan): 1 vote (Fugazi) Jennifer Taylor (Sandy): 1 vote (Cecilie) Hugh Janus (Eskallon): 1 vote (def) Patrick Fitzwilliam (def): 5 votes (Hinckley, Eskallon, Wuntin, CallMePieOrDie, JimButcher) After the this update from our host Ossie, Mr. Fitz changed his vote to Roger to even the things up, and then Mr. Leplot (WhiteFang) also voted for Roger that put Mr. Goodenarde in the lead. It is at this point that, when the voting seems to be turning in favor of our only confirmed Innocent Mr. Fitz, that Ms. Ophelia Balls (fhomess) and Ms. Jennifer Taylor (Sandy) began to vote for Mr. Fitz, in succession, to once again put Mr. Fitz in the lead in the vote tally. Once Mr. Fitz was forced to reveal his Virginity, I, your reliable greasy engineer tied things up once more when I voted for Roger in order to possibly save a Virgin in Mr. Fitz. Then Ms. Balls suspiciously followed and unvoted for Mr. Fitz, BUT instead of voting for Mr. Fitz's closest 'rival' at that point (Mr. Goodenarde), Ms. Balls inexplicably chose to vote for Ms. Taylor (who was in no way in danger at that point). Owing to his vast experience in these types of situations, Mr. Fitz immediately noticed these suspicious behavior from Ms. Balls: I think this is a scummy move. Voting for me late, unvoting me quickly, and then throwing your vote away on Taylor (who certainly has been of no help whatsoever other than her helpful, condescending lecture showing me the error of my ways ). You can't really care about the truth of my statements if you won't make a move to save me. This is a legitimate Finger of Shame aimed at you for your behavior today. Was it a half-assed/half-hearted move from Ms. Balls? I'm sorry Ophelia, I know you "asked for advice" from me privately regarding this, but I think the rest deserves to know the reasoning behind your suspicions move. And mind you, these two were also the first ones to test Ms. Taylor's questionable voting tactic, with Ms. Balls "starting" with her weirdo moment of voting-unvoting-revoting of Mr. Lelplot followed by Ms. Taylor's (being true to her word) voting the same. A staged act perhaps? I think these two are worth looking at...
Scubacarrot Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 Hmmm, mr Bennett makes a good point, I am interested to hear what Ms Balls and Ms Taylor have to say for themselves, AS WELL as Captain Roger. If Goodenarde's claim he made yesterday was true, surely, he would not mind telling us the result from his nocturnal actions?
def Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 It is at this point that, when the voting seems to be turning in favor of our only confirmed Innocent Mr. Fitz, that Ms. Ophelia Balls (fhomess) and Ms. Jennifer Taylor (Sandy) began to vote for Mr. Fitz, in succession, to once again put Mr. Fitz in the lead in the vote tally. I would feel comfortable voting for either of these two as things stand.
ADHO15 Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 I would feel comfortable voting for either of these two as things stand. As would I. The links that have shown up between them seem rather suspicious to me, not to mention their unusual voting tactics.
Professor Flitwick Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 Hmmm, mr Bennett makes a good point, I am interested to hear what Ms Balls and Ms Taylor have to say for themselves, AS WELL as Captain Roger. If Goodenarde's claim he made yesterday was true, surely, he would not mind telling us the result from his nocturnal actions? Bhaa-haa-haa! Now, now, my little filly, I wouldn't want to give the cultists a name to go after!
Scubacarrot Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 Bhaa-haa-haa! Now, now, my little filly, I wouldn't want to give the cultists a name to go after! To me it seems that that is just another lie, trying to defend yourself. Yesterday you CLAIMED to be able to see who the virgins are, I didnt believe you were innocent, but apparantly some people did. You were pretty close to being lynched, until some people suspicially changed votes, taking the heat off of you. Without some proof, you are still marked as prime suspect in my book. If you really are a flavour cop, give us your results. Right now, I am inclined to believe your claim yesterday was an act of desperation, a last resort. If you want to avoid my vote, you better give us a result, and it better be good.
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