Hinckley Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 Heck, if I was in your position, I would gladly sacrifice myself and take a bullet to save Patrick since I know he is much more useful than I am in this desert hole - it's called "taking one for the team". That's a pretty heavy accusation to make. From other people's legitimate perspectives, Patrick seemed suspicious. He lied about the investigation result on me for a whole day. Whatever his reasoning, it made some people suspicious. So, finding def more valuable then themselves? Sorry, you're asking people to be sheep. People who are "valuable" should be scrutinized in the early days. You don't sacrifice yourself for someone you don't fully trust yet. This hole in the desert concept has been doubly hard because it takes time to confirm people and in the time we're taking to confirm people, Virgins are dying. How many do they have to sacrifice? How much time do we have? We have to trust people hastily in order to win this race against dead Virgins. That sucks. It's made me so paranoid, because there are so many claims to validate, that I haven't revealed my list to anyone. So, if I die, nobody will know what I know. That's dangerous and this concept is wreckless. Anyway, Gordon, how townie have you been? You are (metagame-ish) uncharacteristically not helpful. Then who the heck are these "know-it-alls" who suspiciously asked to remove Patrick's protection last night? I'm not asking you to divulge them publicly, but at least you'll be able to "evaluate" them and their hidden intentions based on your conversations with them. Still, I don't understand why any Innocent would do that move unless they have a "good plan" or they're simply as paranoid as Ms. Tomato-Face there. Oh, I should talk to them in private! I hadn't thought of that. Thanks. Who is this investigator that Patrick was talking to? If Gordon's plan was to verify me and have me investigated again... Why did Gordon insist on me being investigated two days in a row? Percy was suspicious of that too. I understand why he needed it the second day, but he was suspiciously vocal about "Mehmet needs to be investigated." I would assume if I was to be investigated, without that mirror cloak on me, that I would come up Innocent. If the investigator targeted me and found me innocent they should probably contact me. Did they find me a Cultist again? Well then, tell someone. Please! Ask them to report it to you. We need to get to the bottom of this. Why would the tracker's results say "You think you targeted Hinckley and they targeted def." Did the investigator get "You think you target Hinckley and they are a Cultist?" We need this information from the investigator. If you are the investigator and you do not trust me, please find someone you do trust to report these findings either to me or publicly. Or was this investigator a crock of shit?
Sandy Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 I already explained that I at one point voted for Fitzwilliam on Day One because the vote on LePlot wasn't going anywhere and I found Patrick's behaviour uppity and arrogant, and to my knowledge then he was the one with the most votes. As a virgin with no contacts to anyone I had no way of knowing what his alliance was then, and he hadn't even claimed his role before that (which is why I changed my vote away from him). To my experience the best way to get people talking is to vote for them - now is that strategy "stupid, illogical and scummy" as well, like all of my other strategies? You're grasping at straws by going back on that case, really since Fitzwilliam was never that close to being convicted in the first place. And remember, even if I was a cultist, I would not have known if Patrick was a virgin or not at that time. Is that answer enough for you, or do you want to repeat yesterday by voting for me?
Hinckley Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 And remember, even if I was a cultist, I would not have known if Patrick was a virgin or not at that time. I don't feel like explaining strategy to you, so please read things before you post them.
Sandy Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 I don't feel like explaining strategy to you, so please read things before you post them. I don't feel like getting picked by you over everything I say, so please shut up.
Hinckley Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 I don't feel like getting picked by you over everything I say, so please shut up. Oh God, I'm sorry. I wasn't picking. I was going to make a legitimate point but then didn't feel like typing. I don't know why I posted it then. Stop! Stop making me look like I have to start something with somebody, like it's some complex I have to push people. Because that is your doing, not mine. OK, that was an megablocks move and I apologize. Let's all have fun.
Fugazi Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 You're grasping at straws by going back on that case, really since Fitzwilliam was never that close to being convicted in the first place. And remember, even if I was a cultist, I would not have known if Patrick was a virgin or not at that time. Is that answer enough for you, or do you want to repeat yesterday by voting for me? I will admit I was mostly looking for Ms Balls' response, as she was the one switching her vote from Mr Fitzdef to you. I guess it was quite early in the game for scum to vote one another... or maybe not. In any case, thanks for explaining your position once more. A lynch always starts with a first vote. Now that we know that Mr Fitzdef was truly a virgin, we do need to consider every attempt at his life. And even without knowing that he was a Virgin, the scum might have wanted him out on the grounds of his pro-activity. I may be grasping at straws, but I thought Mr Bennett's observation was valid and had never been addressed. If there are better leads to follow today, by all means let's hear them! And I should add that neither Mr Bennett or myself voted for you yesterday, so I assume your last sentence is destined to the camp in general?
Tamamono Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 First of all, Thanks Tomato-Face for calmly explaining by PM where I had gone wrong in my thinking. That shows quite a growth in strategy even just from your first reaction to my accusation to the conversation we just had. So, again, good job. Thank you, Mehmet. I'm sorry that my initial response to your accusation was a bit snappy. I was having a really stressful night, and getting accused out of the blue didn't help. I'd also like to apologize to Gordon for lashing out at him like that. The most important thing to remember is that this is just a game, and it's not worth hurting anyone's feelings over. Ok, the "much much much thing" might've been a bit exaggerated, and I'm sure you're a "hard-worker"at these types of situations, but it's still a no-brainer that Mr. Fitz is more "valuable" than you and I would've wanted him to be alive right now than you. Heck, if I was in your position, I would gladly sacrifice myself and take a bullet to save Patrick since I know he is much more useful than I am in this desert hole - it's called "taking one for the team". You might be an Innocent, but you made a big and risky move that backfired against us, double black-eye at that: a) your plan got Patrick killed (one of our most valuable Townies) and b) as a consequence of your "uncoordinated" plan, you made Mehmet wrongly suspicious about you which eventually outed your Virginity. Looks like the cowardly Cultists are enjoying themselves right now with this Townie mess-up. I was almost certain that the scum would go for me last night, so I tried to get protection so they would waste a kill on me. I know, the plan didn't work. I ducked up. We all make mistakes here, but I think this is one of my biggest ones yet. I'm sorry everybody. I suggest you do the same Tomato-face, and put more effort on it, especially when "planning your moves". Even if your uncoordinated moves are highly questionable, I will still give you the benefit of the doubt and will follow Mehmet's admission that he wrongly accused you. I know all of what I've just said is "unproductive" as it doesn't really move us forward in finding out the Cultists, sorry but I just can't help feel disappointed with what happened. I'm feeling pretty disappointed as well. While I'm happy that Mehmet was finally able to see reason due to the conversation we had in private, I'm totally pissed that I had my virginity given away in-thread, and I'm pissed that Fitzdef died last night, too. Damn it, we need to shape up, or pretty soon we're going to be handing the cultists a victory on a silver platter.
Hinckley Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 I was almost certain that the scum would go for me last night, so I tried to get protection so they would waste a kill on me. I know, the plan didn't work. I ducked up. We all make mistakes here, but I think this is one of my biggest ones yet. I'm sorry everybody. I'm feeling pretty disappointed as well. While I'm happy that Mehmet was finally able to see reason due to the conversation we had in private, I'm totally pissed that I had my virginity given away in-thread, and I'm pissed that Fitzdef died last night, too. Damn it, we need to shape up, or pretty soon we're going to be handing the cultists a victory on a silver platter. I have about 50 different responses to this. This game concept makes it doubly hard to figure out who to trust. With so many people's information, I need to just shut up and think for a while. Tomato face's response here makes me suspicious of her on one word and convinced she's Innocent on the next. As a Town, we're confused. That's what the Scum want. It's only day three, I suggest everyone re-group, take a look at things and find out what we can move forward with. I'm not going to being any accusations forward until I've really looked at everything and talked to everyone involved. We've got this, I think! As confusing as it is, we're really close. They wouldn't be trying so hard to push us off our track if we weren't really close to nabbing them all. We can do this if we work together...and trust the right people. And therein lies the dichotomy of the game. But we can do it!
Brickdoctor Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 I know all of what I've just said is "unproductive" as it doesn't really move us forward in finding out the Cultists, sorry but I just can't help feel disappointed with what happened. Agreed. Three or four really long statements, and we're back at square one. Anyone still think Ms. Taylor or Ms. Balls are worth lookin' at? I don't think we ever got any information that made Ms. Taylor look innocent. The case against her simply wasn't that strong (though it looked like the strongest one we had at the time), and it was a no-brainer to vote for, well, Nancy the Psychologist Snake instead. Same for Ms. Balls, as far as I'm concerned. It's a small suspicion based on one or two bits of behavior that don't form a strong case. Though if we're still at square one later Today...
Hinckley Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 Agreed. Three or four really long statements, and we're back at square one. I don't think we ever got any information that made Ms. Taylor look innocent. The case against her simply wasn't that strong (though it looked like the strongest one we had at the time), and it was a no-brainer to vote for, well, Nancy the Psychologist Snake instead. Same for Ms. Balls, as far as I'm concerned. It's a small suspicion based on one or two bits of behavior that don't form a strong case. Though if we're still at square one later Today... We should also keep looking at you, Beaufot Boner-head or whatever your name is. Also, Gordon Bennet was really quick to point out Ms. Taylor and Ms. Balls voted for Patrick, but he's real quiet about Nadir Zenith voting for Patrick. Sorry, Nadir, I just have this odd fixation on you. Impulse control... I forgot
Cecilie Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 Alright, fresh start. It seems we're at a bit of a standstill here. Maybe it's time to look at some new suspects, instead of just keeping on with the pounding of the same old ones... (and now that it's a bit more quiet, someone who's a bit more slow in the head like me can take some time to look things over and collect some thoughts ). I've had a new look at yesterday's events, and I've picked out this little interesting quote by Betty Swallocks. I'm leaning towards Ms. Stools myself, for the reasons Mr. Fitzwilliam and Mr. Zenith have brought up (and in addition, for voting for Ms. Balls yesterday, with the reasoning: "I don't truly believe you to be a cultist", but I'll vote for you anyway because you're stupid). Although I see Mehmet seems to have another suspect. The issue I can see is what the serial killer would become once they are converted. I mean, psychiatrists usually convert serial killers into vanilla townies, but in this game it would detrimental to the camp, as it would grant the cultists one more virgin in which to sacrifice. I suppose it could be possible for the serial killer to retain their night kill action once they've been converted, but I don't know, that sounds a little too good to be true. I feel that voting for those who have made action claims should be our priority today. We can't risk voting out more claimed virgins, especially when we have a tracker and a virgin cop to verify these claims tomorrow. Now, first, you say that you're leaning towards Ms. Stools. Fair enough. Then, you're hypothesizing a bit about the psychiatrist role. No harm in that I guess (although it can be interpreted as planting ideas that it might be useful to keep the psychiatrist around, in case said person could turn the serial killer into a vigilante, but that's hypothesizing on my part). Then comes the interesting part. You feel that voting for those who have made action claims should be a priority? Wtf? This doesn't specifically refer to the weird psychiatrist role, but to people with actions in general. Do you really think that it's a priority to vote out people who claim to have potentially useful actions? I thought it was a priority to vote out people who are acting suspicious... Also, one more thing. In this post you say you're leaning towards Ms. Stools. But you're not voting for her. And later in the day, when there are already plenty of votes against her, you decide that you won't bother voting at all... Even if you seem to agree she should be voting out, you just say you're going to trust that we don't make any last minute vote changes. Why couldn't you just throw your vote in like everybody else? Now, I may not have a super evolved scumdar like Mehmet or Patrick, but I wouldn't mind hearing some explanations to those oddities .
Pandora Posted January 19, 2012 Author Posted January 19, 2012 Day Three Interlude Ossie and Is, together with their temporary companion Mawhrin-Skel, are busy satisfying their curiosity about an unexpected guest. "I don't think they really understood what on earth we were going on about this morning" observes Ossie, pulling something slimy from the carcass in front of him "No" agrees Is "I think they have an Outside Context Problem " "Bahahaha!" offers Mawhrin-Skel, deftly slicing layers of tissue with its knife missile "Yeah, they're just so unCultured." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ During this exchange another group of unexpected guests arrive. This time from hopefully a more easily referenced pop-culture sci-fi source. "Now... spread out... men... and let's... see... what we can find" commands the dashing yellow-shirted Captain in his unusual phraseology "Tricorder's reading dangerous levels of farts, Captain" reports the team's Doctor "Phasers set to mild tingling sensation in the left foot" assures the Science Officer in his ever-serious voice "...." gulps the red shirted Ensign. ~~~~~ On the other side of the camp, with Mehmet insisting on remaining buried in the sand, Mellifluous (the renowned reporter from Edinburgh, remember?) has taken it upon herself to cook Clan Murgatroyd's infamous three-bean chilli. "Och aye the noo, hoots mans, come an' grab a wee bowl a mae bean chilli!" shouts Mellifluous "Yummmm, that smells fantastic" is the general murmur through the camp as the campers run to grab some grub. "Bean chilli!?!" observes a party-pooper "that's the last thing we need with all Mehmet's gaseous eruptions!" The inviting smell of chilli also draws the adventurers from beyond the stars, and they wander over to the mouth-watering aroma "Tricorder reading normal, sir, it's safe to eat" notes the Science Officer "Ah" says the Captain with a winning smile "Well... then... you'd best... bean me up, Scotty" (I'm so, so sorry, Rufus made me put it in ) "Now" says the Captain, satisfied with his snack "who'll... be the first... to... explore that... fascinating... statue?" An uncharacteristic silence falls over the camp... You may now vote. You have 48 hours to decide on a sacrifice.
Hinckley Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 "I don't think they really understood what on earth we were going on about this morning" Sigh...
JimBee Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 I'm just checking to see if you were paying attention. Yet you still haven't said anything all day besides "hi hello I'm useless". Do something. Also, Gordon Bennet was really quick to point out Ms. Taylor and Ms. Balls voted for Patrick, but he's real quiet about Nadir Zenith voting for Patrick. Sorry, Nadir, I just have this odd fixation on you. I'm not sure what I think of Gordon. He sure does like Patrick a lot though... Anyway, I've been thinking about those who've suddenly become quiet after leaving the spotlight. A list of people I had in mind: Roger Mellifluous Penelope Ishaq And those not saying anything at all, Mustafa and Leplot. While voting for "the quiet one" didn't turn out so well on Day 1, we are now on Day 3 and these people have blended back in. Specifically, Roger still hasn't given us results. I can understand if he wants to keep people's identities a secret, but wouldn't you think that he would try to investigate someone who's claimed to verify? Such as Jennifer? Do we even know that he was telling the truth on Day 1?
Sandy Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 Specifically, Roger still hasn't given us results. I can understand if he wants to keep people's identities a secret, but wouldn't you think that he would try to investigate someone who's claimed to verify? Such as Jennifer? Roger certainly hasn't contacted me. I was kinda hoping he would, so that I'd have at least one person believing I'm a virgin for real...
Brickdoctor Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 I'm not sure what I think of Gordon. He sure does like Patrick a lot though... Could just be because in a book called Gotham Mafia, a character a lot like him and a character a lot like Patrick teamed up, organized the Town, and blew the Scum out of the water.
Eskallon Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 Roger certainly hasn't contacted me. I was kinda hoping he would, so that I'd have at least one person believing I'm a virgin for real... Sure... I still don't get that interlude. (P.S- Excuse my absence, working hard till tomorrow on a project for work)
Hinckley Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 Roger certainly hasn't contacted me. I was kinda hoping he would, so that I'd have at least one person believing I'm a virgin for real... Sorry. It's just that you act so experienced. Lame joke. Sorry. Could just be because in a book called Gotham Mafia, a character a lot like him and a character a lot like Patrick teamed up, organized the Town, and blew the Scum out of the water. Metagame much?
Scubacarrot Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 Right, all this bean chili and space-people (cant we go on their ship and escape that way?) aside, I think I am going to vote for mr. Mustafa Nidia (brickdoctor). My reasoning? So glad you asked, lets take a look: On day 1 AND day 2, Brickdoctor jumped on the bandwagon, without any original (what wasnt said before) reasoning of his own, looks like he was hiding behind others, scummy move, bro. Also on day 1, Brickdoctor seemed insistent on voting someone out, this is suspicious, because the odds of a (mostly) random lynch are against the town. I know the hosts would prob not have let us get away with not voting, but the way he stated it then, makes it suspicious. His posts, today: Well, I don't think anyone is surprised we caught a cultist. Hurray for us! On the other hand, it's a shame that we had to lose one of our most proactive members. Right after he caught the first Cultist, too. Standard megablocks thing what one would say right after the lynch, Totally useless after a person has already said it, could very well be made to look more (pro)active. This is not a point I would condemn you on "tried to hammer Big Butthole"? I merely expressed my opinion of it. Do you really think our hosts wouldn't have noticed it? I was expressing my annoyance that the penalty votes could completely change the lynch. In a book I read called Bloodbrick, Part II, a character a lot like me was getting a lot of penalty votes, and a character a lot like you told be to stop before I got myself lynched instead of the main suspect. (although the character a lot like you was Scum in that book) I was under the impression that I had explained my private statements in the same private conversation with you. This post was made after he was accused by the cook(not me, the other one). Pointing out the edit was a bit suspicious, all of you must admit. The hosts are just human, not ancient egyptian gods, right? They could have missed it. An innocent with votes makes it easier for the scum to work with, face it. I am not goint to condemn you on this point either, but it counts. His last post, I wont bother linking it because itself is a reply to 2 other posts, the main point I managed to grab between the nonsense, is that he doesnt trust Ms Taylor or Ms Balls, Great, Perfect, I dont give a shit. ELABORATE. As a conclusion to my wonderful story, I would like to say that I feel that Brickdoctor (his name is too complicated, hosts, make names that are more easy to remember/are based on player's names please!) has generally been not helpful, often not giving thoughts of his own, and following other people. These things I pointed out may not be very damnable on their own, together they form a hot ball of suspicion, and it belongs to Mustafa Nidia (See how generic and uninteresting that name is?). I would make a sign that says, Vote Mustafa, but that would be unoriginal. ADD: I forgot to vote. Vote: Mustafa Nidia (Brickdoctor)
fhomess Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 I've picked out this little interesting quote by Betty Swallocks. Betty is an interesting person to ask about as she was one of two people who did not vote yesterday. The other person was Ishaq, who only conrtibuted once to the day 2 conversation, and that was to discuss possible ways the mirror cloak could have resulted in an odd tracker result.
Hinckley Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 The Case of Betty Boop or Even Dumb Virgins are Important Betty Boop: The title infers that I'm stupid. Harriet the Slut: Don't give away the ending. Betty Boop: The title kind of does that too. Harriet the Slut: So, Betty. Betty Boop: What? Are we performing the play now? Harriet the Slut: Freud says he bit you with the snake. Do your morning results give any indication that you were bitten by a snake named Nancy? Could you imagine? Why would someone make such a far-fetched... Betty Boop: I don't have a night action!!! Harriet the Slut: Excuse me? That's not what I asked. I asked if you were bit by a snake. Betty Boop: Oh well, morning results are just for Night Actions, right? Well, I don't have one. Harriet the Slut: You seem slightly defensive. Betty Boop: I'm not Scum! Harriet the Slut: This is the first time we've talked. Why would you tell me, so quickly, that you don't have a Night Action? We know that means you're either Scum or a Virgin. Betty Boop: Yes. Harriet the Slut: If you are trying to protect the Town why would you divulge that information so freely knowing how detrimental it would be to the Town? If I'm Scum, I would immediately know you're a Virgin. Betty Boop: The term "morning results" confused me. And so do the rules of the game. The End. My big problem with Betty Boop is her immediate defensive reactions. She's also sloppy enough to just tell me she has no Night Action without me even asking that, immediately revealing her virginity, if she is Town. That's very dangerous in this game. Also, since Malaena Stools used her as part of his Freud ruse, I'm assuming that alone means she's Scum. If Malaena wanted me to believe his megablocks story, he needed to use someone who he knew wouldn't turn out to be a serial killer later. How else could he be sure Betty Boop wasn't the serial killer unless she is also a Cultist? Maybe she already claimed her role to him in private, but that would surprise me as Malaen didn't do much to endear herself to others. The real problem is we can't risk losing claimed Virgins, especially since we don't know how many Virgins they need to kill to win! I'm urging Ossie and Is here to think about the spot we're in and how detrimental it is to our game to not know if we can risk losing a Virgin to test these claims. As it is right now all we can do is try to verify them with Night Actions and this game would then have to last 13 days. Please, oh Wise Ones, let us know the extent of the threat we are up against! I can't reveal Betty Boop to you guys. What if she is telling the truth. Right now, it's the weakest Virgin claim, but that's not enough for me to know what to do with her!! Do we just not lynch? I'm willing to go forward with that plan: no lynching. Let's have the game last 10 weeks because only one person dies a night. Or if we get lucky with our blocker or protector, none! Maybe our vig would kill at some point, but killing a potential Virgin is way too risky! We don't know that his victim wouldn't stumble into the megablocking statue's mouth! Betty Boop: Language... The play is over!
Brickdoctor Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 On day 1 AND day 2, Brickdoctor jumped on the bandwagon, without any original (what wasnt said before) reasoning of his own, looks like he was hiding behind others, scummy move, bro. Also on day 1, Brickdoctor seemed insistent on voting someone out, this is suspicious, because the odds of a (mostly) random lynch are against the town. I know the hosts would prob not have let us get away with not voting, but the way he stated it then, makes it suspicious. If you read back to Day 1, I wasn't even going to vote for the person who got lynched. I voted for Roger because he brought up the random lynch thing. It wasn't a random vote if I cast it based on my opinion. This post was made after he was accused by the cook(not me, the other one). Pointing out the edit was a bit suspicious, all of you must admit. The hosts are just human, not ancient egyptian gods, right? They could have missed it. An innocent with votes makes it easier for the scum to work with, face it. I am not goint to condemn you on this point either, but it counts. There are rules in this situation. You can't play the game expecting the hosts to miss something and not enforce a rule. I play assuming that all rules will be enforced consistently, therefore, I expressed my frustration that someone could get himself lynched instead of the suspect by getting penalty votes which, as far as I'm concerned, he's guaranteed to get whether I comment on his mistake or not. His last post, I wont bother linking it because itself is a reply to 2 other posts, the main point I managed to grab between the nonsense, is that he doesnt trust Ms Taylor or Ms Balls, Great, Perfect, I dont give a shit. ELABORATE. There's nothing to elaborate. I said that I had a suspicion based on a couple bits of behavior. (Ms Taylor's random vote 'strategy', and a gut feeling, if you will, concerning Ms Balls) I don't have anything else against them. Like I said, it was a small suspicion that remains because nothing has been done about them. Nancy the Psychologist Snake came in instead, and who would seriously believe that story and not vote for her?
CorneliusMurdock Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 It was odd that you called attention to Hugh's mistake, Mustafa. Even if you believed he would have gotten the penalty anyway, maybe you could have pulled him aside privately. It was a particularly close vote with all the switches and twists and turns. Those five votes could have meant the difference between lynching the popular vote candidate or Huge. Nobody likes a tattletale.
Scubacarrot Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 If you read back to Day 1, I wasn't even going to vote for the person who got lynched. I voted for Roger because he brought up the random lynch thing. It wasn't a random vote if I cast it based on my opinion. There are rules in this situation. You can't play the game expecting the hosts to miss something and not enforce a rule. I play assuming that all rules will be enforced consistently, therefore, I expressed my frustration that someone could get himself lynched instead of the suspect by getting penalty votes which, as far as I'm concerned, he's guaranteed to get whether I comment on his mistake or not. There's nothing to elaborate. I said that I had a suspicion based on a couple bits of behavior. (Ms Taylor's random vote 'strategy', and a gut feeling, if you will, concerning Ms Balls) I don't have anything else against them. Like I said, it was a small suspicion that remains because nothing has been done about them. Nancy the Psychologist Snake came in instead, and who would seriously believe that story and not vote for her? You are completely dodging the point, By bandwagon, I didnt mean Flitwick, I of course meant the infamous Mehmet-shuffle, were you basically followed like a sheep follows his trusted shepherd (I don't mean the shepherd will feed the sheep, take care of the sheep and then butcher the sheep). The point of insistance was even before that, It was about the matter of to vote or not to vote, that question, thing. Point 2, man, I said it was a minor thing, and notice how I said COULD. I never implied that we could have expected that they would have missed it, but still. Whose side are you on, the hosts? No elaboration heh? Interesting, funny, how you just DID elaborate your points... And you keep bringing that point up, you voted for Nancy the psycho, blahblah it would be stupid not to blahblah blah. Of course, it was, she was scum, obviously. But the way you make it sound to me is that you are overacting it.
Brickdoctor Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 You are completely dodging the point, By bandwagon, I didnt mean Flitwick, I of course meant the infamous Mehmet-shuffle, were you basically followed like a sheep follows his trusted shepherd (I don't mean the shepherd will feed the sheep, take care of the sheep and then butcher the sheep). The point of insistance was even before that, It was about the matter of to vote or not to vote, that question, thing. Because there wasn't really a case against anyone. Mehmet seemed more or less trustworthy compared to all the other people. He sounded like he knew something about Tomato, and I didn't really have a strong suspicion of anyone at the time. Call me a sheep if you want. No elaboration heh? Interesting, funny, how you just DID elaborate your points... Poor wording. I meant, "There's nothing more to elaborate." My suspicions of those two had already been voiced. (or, actually, in the case of Ms. Balls, it was a gut feeling, so there was nothing to be voiced, really)
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