timslegos Posted July 22, 2013 Posted July 22, 2013 I would love to have this model on my shelves, it dwarfs my attempt at a rotator town truck! tim Quote
Blakbird Posted July 22, 2013 Posted July 22, 2013 Man this thing is awesome! How long did it take you to build it? I spent about a week on it, several hours per day. It took me longer than it might have because remember that I was creating the instructions, not just using them. The lack of electrical and pneumatic definition in the instructions took me the most time to work out. In fact, I would say that it takes about 50% about as long to wire as it does to build the entire 5000 part truck! Quote
Boxerlego Posted July 22, 2013 Posted July 22, 2013 Simply incredible! A chrome bumper would be amazing to see on this. Quote
MrNumbskull13 Posted July 22, 2013 Posted July 22, 2013 Absolutely HUGE!! This truck is a true masterpiece of Lego engineering, looks like it is taking Lego to its limits! Fantastic model!!! Quote
Blakbird Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 Rather than trying to model all the wires with LSynth, I am considering doing an electrical schematic diagram instead using color coding. Take a look at the linked images and give me some feedback concerning whether you think this would be adequate to make all the electrical connections. This model has 36 individual electrical parts to connect. (Files are linked because they are too large to attach) Figure 1 Figure 2 I might also include some text to help explain such as: LED Lights: Power from battery via white main power feed to dark tan switch. Switch goes to 4 purple aft LED lights. Trans red extension wire goes from switch to electrical junction bay. Front 4 brown LED lights connect to junction bay. Quote
Alasdair Ryan Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 (edited) Blakbird that is a good idea to save time on your side. Your idea would work fine as long as you did not need to 'thread' the cables through any thing on the model. If this was the case you would need to highlight how to do this. I could also give you a hand with LSynthing the cables if you need it..... Edited July 23, 2013 by Alasdair Ryan Quote
GuiliuG Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 This is the best idea Blakbird. I'm also doing this in the building instructions I'm working on. I think that this solution has two advantages. First, you save lot of times and secondly it's lot more clearer for builders than with a lot of cable going everywhere. People who will build this model aren't new in the lego world, so it should work well for them ! Quote
Tubby Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 How does this work then? Has the MOC creator/OP of this thread given permission for you to create CAD drawings and instructions, have you been working with him to create them? I'm just curious really. As I've typed this reply I can see he is actually looking at this thread. It's an awesome model with some great features. Quote
skriblez Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 I spent about a week on it, several hours per day. It took me longer than it might have because remember that I was creating the instructions, not just using them. The lack of electrical and pneumatic definition in the instructions took me the most time to work out. In fact, I would say that it takes about 50% about as long to wire as it does to build the entire 5000 part truck! Damn! Great work so far on the model and your site by the way ;) Ill buy the instructions when they come out just so that im ready if i win a lot of money so i can build it :P Quote
dikkie klijn Posted July 23, 2013 Author Posted July 23, 2013 How does this work then? Has the MOC creator/OP of this thread given permission for you to create CAD drawings and instructions, have you been working with him to create them? I'm just curious really. As I've typed this reply I can see he is actually looking at this thread. It's an awesome model with some great features. I asked Blakbird to make a render of my model because of his incredible rendering skills. After a Yess from his side I started disassembling the model and taking photographs at the same time. After that a 1000 or so photo's were send Blakbirds way and from that he started making the render. I have never requested blakbird to make the model in real bricks but I find it a big honor to have a moc of mine in Blakbirds collection :). Quote
legomuppet9 Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 How does this work then? Has the MOC creator/OP of this thread given permission for you to create CAD drawings and instructions, have you been working with him to create them? I'm just curious really. As I've typed this reply I can see he is actually looking at this thread. It's an awesome model with some great features. Do you even know who Blackbird is? Or have you even read this thread? If you had you'd realise that Blackbird is working with Dikkie Klijn to make instructions for this awesome model... he does with loads of people... Do you even know who Blackbird is? Or have you even read this thread? If you had you'd realise that Blackbird is working with Dikkie Klijn to make instructions for this awesome model... he does with loads of people... Quote
Tubby Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 (edited) Do you even know who Blackbird is? Or have you even read this thread? If you had you'd realise that Blackbird is working with Dikkie Klijn to make instructions for this awesome model... he does with loads of people... Muppet is an apt name, I've read the thread several times but it's obvious you don't read posts. I can't say I've ever met Blakbird so no, I don't know him. I said I was just curious as to how this came about, nothing more. Thanks Dikkie Klijn for your reply. Edited July 23, 2013 by Tubby Quote
Blakbird Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 Your idea would work fine as long as you did not need to 'thread' the cables through any thing on the model. If this was the case you would need to highlight how to do this. Well that's the problem. With so many wires they do need the be threaded through some special places. But I could handle this by just putting in a few photographs. As promised, here are a few pictures of the model next to Grazi's tow truck. Quote
skriblez Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 Nice pictures Blackbird. Nice for us mer mortals to seem them both at together :P Quote
750ACE Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 @Blakbird: How do these two stack up to each other, function and part wise? Dikkie's Tow Truck looks to have better proportions and less clutter. Also, not to get off topic, what is your opinion if you were to throw Sephirot's Kenworth T800 TS into the mix? All three in a collection would be awesome. When available I am really looking forward to purchasing the TowTruck xl instructions, you do fantastic work. Quote
skriblez Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 Think how awesome it would be with all 3 of them beside each other! Quote
Blakbird Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 @Blakbird: How do these two stack up to each other, function and part wise? Dikkie's Tow Truck looks to have better proportions and less clutter. Also, not to get off topic, what is your opinion if you were to throw Sephirot's Kenworth T800 TS into the mix? All three in a collection would be awesome. When available I am really looking forward to purchasing the TowTruck xl instructions, you do fantastic work. I have never built Sephirot's truck, so it is hard to make any comparison. Sariel and M_longer also had amazing tow trucks. However, I can compare these two if you like. The style is quite different so either could be considered superior depending on what you like. Grazi's tow truck is based on 5571 and is obviously a scale model of a much older truck (maybe 30 years old). The "clutter" you describe was very common at the time, and truckers would add on detail to make their trucks look as flashy as possible. Dikkie's truck is more modern and smooth. Quote
Sariel Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 So, I've come across Blackbird's comparison chart, and I thought it would be interesting to add my electrical behemoth to it :) Please note that my tow truck sacrificed suspension and pneumatics to rely on electric systems only, which required stuffing almost 19 meters of wires inside it. Some of its mechanisms were remote-controlled but are not listed here as such for the lack of space in the chart. For the same reason there is no full list of all the 44 LEDs the model included, nor is there information that they were parts of various mechanisms - most served as regular lights, but some were functioning as turn signals and reversing lights. Quote
Blakbird Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 So, I've come across Blackbird's comparison chart, and I thought it would be interesting to add my electrical behemoth to it :) Please note that my tow truck sacrificed suspension and pneumatics to rely on electric systems only, which required stuffing almost 19 meters of wires inside it. Some of its mechanisms were remote-controlled but are not listed here as such for the lack of space in the chart. For the same reason there is no full list of all the 44 LEDs the model included, nor is there information that they were parts of various mechanisms - most served as regular lights, but some were functioning as turn signals and reversing lights. Thanks for adding this. The comparison between these three behemoths is fascinating. Sadly, no one will ever own all 3 to compare them visually! Quote
skriblez Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 Thanks for adding this. The comparison between these three behemoths is fascinating. Sadly, no one will ever own all 3 to compare them visually! You only need one more. You can do it :P Quote
dhc6twinotter Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 Has anybody built a 100% remote control rotator tow truck? Quote
Blakbird Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 You only need one more. You can do it :P I'm not unwilling. But there is no CAD file or instructions so there is nothing I can do. Has anybody built a 100% remote control rotator tow truck? I thought Sariel's was 100% I/R. Quote
dhc6twinotter Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 I thought Sariel's was 100% I/R. I may be wrong, but I thought the outriggers and drop axle were controlled by a switch on the truck. Quote
timslegos Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 (edited) Has anybody built a 100% remote control rotator tow truck? Mine was completely IR, although not quite to the scale of the other trucks . http://www.brickshel...ry.cgi?f=478902 tim Edited July 24, 2013 by timslegos Quote
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