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Does anyone know what the Thor minifig would look like with a darker hair color? (Like the little boy's from Mill Village Raid)? I'm not really a fan of how blonde they made it...It doesn't even match his beard.

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Does anyone know what the Thor minifig would look like with a darker hair color? (Like the little boy's from Mill Village Raid)? I'm not really a fan of how blonde they made it...It doesn't even match his beard.

on flickr a dude named "retlaw2390" has done that and it looks better.

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Does anyone know what the Thor minifig would look like with a darker hair color? (Like the little boy's from Mill Village Raid)? I'm not really a fan of how blonde they made it...It doesn't even match his beard.

Like 'piemaster1446' said, 'retlaw2390' has made a pretty cool Thor. The colored hair piece he used can easily be gotten through the Car and Caravan City set. :sweet:

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There was a guy on eBay selling the 2012 Spidey minifig. I don't really like the design compared to the original Spider-Man movie sets. There is no detail in the pants/legs at all.

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Having said that, I will still probably pick up this set because Spider-Man is my favourite Super Hero.

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I would like to ask several questions about the Lego superhero sets:

1. Why was Captain America's head printed without wings?

2. Why was the Wolverine fig designed without a mask? Do you believe it is purely to appeal to those who prefer the cinematic wolverine to that in the comics, or do you think they saw such a mask as difficult to design without looking slightly ridiculous? if it is the former, why would they do that at the expense of all those who truly want a legit wolverine minifig.

3. Why is the upcoming spider-man minifig printed with big eyes. Sure, it's accurate to the cartoon it's trying to portray, but it's not really what ages groups over 13 who like Spider-man would want, and those below the age group of 13 are indifferent. Why would it be necessary to make such an accurate depiction of the cartoon at the expense of many fans, and, possibly, much money?

4. Do you think they're likely to remake Robin in his classic suit as opposed to what they've designed him with now? And, secondly, where does that black and red color scheme come from?

5. Do you think it's likely they'll redesign the batman minifIg with different suits?

6. Why was Deadpool designed with a brown sword-holder instead of a black one?

7. This isn't really a question related to the superhero sets, but the previous question sparks a point. Often Lego will do things that appeal more to younger generations, which is fair, because that's what will bring in the money, and that's the kind of company they are. But then they do things like design deadpool with a brown sword-holder, and make spider-man have big eyes, and design wolverine without a mask. Lego tries to get an image of caring for all their customers, but when they do things like design spider-man with monstrous eyes and not even give wolverine a mask, it makes me wonder if that image is one true to their nature and why they do things like that. Does anyone else know why they do things like that?

Thanks.

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I think an easy response to all of your questions is that TLG does what it does in order to make money. I am sure their researchers go through hours and hours to find out what will, and won't work. The bug eyes (excuse the pun) on Spider-Man is probably to avoid any confusion that it is not based off of the upcoming movie version, since the cartoon is the only Spider-Man license they currently have. Besides I personally don't think the eyes will turn off TOO many people. As for Deadpool, that was a purely financial decision. I am sure they have hundreds of extra brown holders from the PoP sets, so rather than make news ones they saved money by re-using the old ones. I trust the decisions TLG makes are well researched and thought out.

Now as for the customer service you described, I for one love TLG service. They are always polite and helpful with any request. When making products they can not please everyone, and obviously they have wronged you by not making a mask for Wolverine, not making the wings on Cap (which would not have been to expensive for them :hmpf_bad: ), and for the eyes on Spidey. These versions of the figs are what the kid's are more familiar with these days, and seeing as LEGO is mostly a kid's toy I think TLG did what would help sell to them first and foremost.

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A lot of it will be down to the nature of the license in question (exactly what property they are licensing) and getting approval from the holders of the license. Beyond that the sets are designed for and marketed as toys for children and aesthetics will be largely based on that. There may be some practical/cost decisions as well. The minifigure format presents it's own limitations as well and there may be some things that simply don't look good in that format.

With Superheroes you have to take into account that their costumes and appearance can vary a great deal over the years within certain parameters. Deadpool's various holsters and scabards are often leather/brown (sometimes black, sometimes silver and often not there at all, swords just seem to magically stick to his back), Macfarlane and Bagley's Spider-man (probably two of the most well known Spider-man artists in the last couple of decades) both have large eyes. You'd have to talk to the designers to be sure. Sometimes they give talks on this kind of stuff at conventions, however I'm not sure if they go into so much detailed for license properties as they do for their own original lines.

But to be honest, at the end of the day the number of people who care about this kind of stuff is almost certainly negligible compared to the number of people buying the sets and it's unlikely to have any impact on sales whatsoever. They're never going to please everyone so they'll design what they feel are the best and most marketable sets within the limitations they have and go with that.

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The designers probably knew people wanted a mask for Wolverine, but didn't feel compelled to design one you would actually use, thus why they printed a mask on the back of the torso to let people know how important the mask is.

I know very little about Deadpool, but for whatever reason I couldn't picture him with a black holster. I actually prefer the brown leather. And someone posted a photo when it came out of him showing brown in the comic at one time or another, so that works. Can't please everyone.

I don't even notice that Spider-man has big eyes. He is a spider/man afterall. I'm more concerned of the blue torso instead of the red one.

As far as I can tell, TLG has hit it out of the ballpark with these figures, as they are the only selling point for me. The sets haven't been that fantastic, but I can always count on the figures looking great.

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I would like to ask several questions about the Lego superhero sets:

1. Why was Captain America's head printed without wings?

2. Why was the Wolverine fig designed without a mask? Do you believe it is purely to appeal to those who prefer the cinematic wolverine to that in the comics, or do you think they saw such a mask as difficult to design without looking slightly ridiculous? if it is the former, why would they do that at the expense of all those who truly want a legit wolverine minifig.

3. Why is the upcoming spider-man minifig printed with big eyes. Sure, it's accurate to the cartoon it's trying to portray, but it's not really what ages groups over 13 who like Spider-man would want, and those below the age group of 13 are indifferent. Why would it be necessary to make such an accurate depiction of the cartoon at the expense of many fans, and, possibly, much money?

4. Do you think they're likely to remake Robin in his classic suit as opposed to what they've designed him with now? And, secondly, where does that black and red color scheme come from?

5. Do you think it's likely they'll redesign the batman minifIg with different suits?

6. Why was Deadpool designed with a brown sword-holder instead of a black one?

7. This isn't really a question related to the superhero sets, but the previous question sparks a point. Often Lego will do things that appeal more to younger generations, which is fair, because that's what will bring in the money, and that's the kind of company they are. But then they do things like design deadpool with a brown sword-holder, and make spider-man have big eyes, and design wolverine without a mask. Lego tries to get an image of caring for all their customers, but when they do things like design spider-man with monstrous eyes and not even give wolverine a mask, it makes me wonder if that image is one true to their nature and why they do things like that. Does anyone else know why they do things like that?

Thanks.

1. They haven't printed on the sides of heads before, except for the tops. This would have been the perfect time to start though. :hmpf_bad:

2. I'd think that it was because there were already so many new molds in the Marvel line and this was an easy place to skip a new one.

3. Yes, but LEGO sets are generally targeted at people under thirteen. :wink:

4. I don't know. :sceptic: This suit comes from the comics though. I think that Robin changed his costume from the classic one to this to honor Superboy when he died.

5. Very

6. They didn't want to spend money to recolor it. :hmpf_bad:

7. To make money of course. :laugh: I think that they do care about us more than other companies, but they are a business first.

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7. This isn't really a question related to the superhero sets, but the previous question sparks a point. Often Lego will do things that appeal more to younger generations, which is fair, because that's what will bring in the money, and that's the kind of company they are. But then they do things like design deadpool with a brown sword-holder, and make spider-man have big eyes, and design wolverine without a mask. Lego tries to get an image of caring for all their customers, but when they do things like design spider-man with monstrous eyes and not even give wolverine a mask, it makes me wonder if that image is one true to their nature and why they do things like that. Does anyone else know why they do things like that?

Thanks.

The big eyed Spiderman is an effection dating back at least 13 years now in the comics. It is most often seen in Marvels Ultimate Spiderman series and Mark Bagley , Stuart Imoen and David LaFuente's art. (with Bagley being the main). Since the animated show is based on Ultimate Spiderman and this art it reassembles it. Since this Lego set is based on that animated series, it in turn is based on that same art style. It serves among other things, to avoid any licensing claims with Sony regarding their movies. Plus as I said it reassembles Mark Bagely's art, a man who is one of the most prolific Spideman artists ever. I think only the Romitas may exceed him.

Caps wings may be a technical issue. The printing system may not be able to do the sides of the head easily.

The Wolverine mask thing is rob ably a combination of reasons. His headpiece is complex and unique. He is very distinctive and familiar without the hat. Almost more so. They already had an acceptable Wolverine hair piece. So no real compelling reason to re engineer something new yet.

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