Yakuza Family - Day 6

[MetroiD]

Setsuko, you know what would be awesome? If you just confessed and told us about your partners too

Pretty please, Setsuko?

Although I tried that with one of your scummy mates on Day 1 and it didn't work. Then again, it hasn't really "worked" for you and your gang for the last 6 days, now has it. Perhaps coming clean on Day 1 wouldn't have been such a bad idea...

As to Kenta - I knew there was something fishy about him, and it most definitely wasn't his rolls. I'm happy to see that the white ninja took notice of these suspicions. And it brings tears to my eyes to hear how little fragile Cherry Blossom has gone down valiantly and shown so much cool-headedness for the greater good of this Family . Whatever the loyal members of this Family had to do yesterday, we did perfectly well. I know I'd be rather alarmed if I was hiding green or purple snot!

Talking about snot, I must admit I can't say I'm too distressed about losing wifey. Other than a quick "Hi, tell me if you want to cooperate" on Day One, there's not much useful information I've managed to hear from her either. But her shenanigans have been ceaseless! I mean, how disrespectful is that - feeling up my butt in front of the entire Family!!! And who in their right mind would not want to come with their husband on an ocean cruise around the world. Oh well. Guess if the Kami smile down upon me, I might just end up having a bachelor's Boat Trip once this is all done!

So, with the course for today's voting pretty much decided, I actually agree with Norio that it would be best if we tried to discuss in public our contribution and the work we've put in for this Family. As useless Family goes, Noriko and Lizzy have definitely found their way to the top of that pile - I wonder what they'd be willing to do to help us root out the few remaining Mutineers. Other than stating the obvious, which I think we've really all gotten quite used to already...

[Eskallon]

That was an interesting night, its good Cherry took one of em down with her! Im willing to go with Setsuko, based on your suspicions Norio. It would be hard for me to say that you haven't been a star in the past few days and its enough to earn my trust.

Noriko (Eskallon)

If any of the above would like to make a case why they are town, the rest of the true townies are waiting patiently

Im still in the game to make sure we have the best chance possible, I haven't had time for the game and its finally starting to pick up and I'm more available. My performance over the past few days has been terrible and the only thing that kept me from pulling out was that one more townie can make all the difference in these situations. Like I said, hopefully I could be more active over the next few days.

[Rick]

Cherry did what she had to do. She seemed to understand that her claim would not save her. It now seems likely that Minoru indeed blocked Chieko, the Mutineer's killer, on night 2. I won't hold my breath though because, if there are still Mutineers left alive, I'm sure the kill has passed on to another Mutineer by now though.

Poor aunt Manga, she did a brilliant job helping us get rid of the scum so far. She will truly be missed. But another scum reading by one of the investigators makes this quite a successful night after all. Setsuku, prepare to be fed to the dragon.

[Professor Flitwick]

*sniff* I've lost my daughter, and we were wrong about Cherry. At least she was able to take mother with her!

Setsuku, you're in the same position as Hiroki. You're pinned against the wall with a incriminating investigation result. There is no question you'll be lynched tonight.

[Capt. Redblade]

Daisuke (Scorpiox)

Again, check your list. I do believe poor Daisuke is now permanently indisposed. Also, after we lynch Setsuko, would it be too much to ask for a reading on Shiro? He made no effort yesterday to answer my carefully laid-out concerns, and his one statement so far has been, in keeping with his current trend, less than helpful.

[def]

Again, check your list. I do believe poor Daisuke is now permanently indisposed. Also, after we lynch Setsuko, would it be too much to ask for a reading on Shiro? He made no effort yesterday to answer my carefully laid-out concerns, and his one statement so far has been, in keeping with his current trend, less than helpful.

I made that list before Daisuke became indisposed

[swils]

Again, check your list. I do believe poor Daisuke is now permanently indisposed. Also, after we lynch Setsuko, would it be too much to ask for a reading on Shiro? He made no effort yesterday to answer my carefully laid-out concerns, and his one statement so far has been, in keeping with his current trend, less than helpful.

And for your own defense? Yet again you are being hypocritical, neglecting to answer my carefully laid-out concerns, and your one statement so far today hasn't been, if you don't mind me saying, particularly helpful. You're under suspicion, just like a few of us, and if you choose not to give any reason why you shouldn't be, well, that's your choice, but I think it's a damned stupid one, if you're a true templie.

[fhomess]

So your entire defense is, "The result is wrong and I'm not Scum because I say I'm not Scum"?

I don't understand why that's not convincing enough for you. I'm convinced by it!

Seriously, though. I don't think there's anything I could say to convince anyone that Norio's result isn't worth testing in the mouth of the dragon. If this result came back on anyone else, I'd react the same way you all are reacting. If I had a power role, I would have already been a part of a core group of verified Yakuza. For me, it's merely ashame that I wasn't verified by Tamiko, as I believe that's the only way my true Yakuza nature would have been revealed.

At any rate, it appears you'll be joining me shortly.

First of all, I didn't say Cherry Blossom was investigated by the same person who investigated Hiroki and you. Second, I pegged you for scum yesterday when you were fishing me for info, so I told you what I felt like telling you So, please, trust my results this time around.

There's no need to trust your result because I know the truth of it. Trust is based on an element of uncertainty. Once something is known for certain, there's no trust required anymore. Everyone else already trusts your result. I would, too, if I were them.

[Rumble Strike]

I know why I am on this list of suspects and I completely understand why, with not much of a presence in the earlier days. Hopefully you will all see that I was a lot more active the last day.

I believe Norio has led or helped in several key lynches and that means I do trust him. I have spoken to him with a quiet word but have nothing to hide here in front of any of you. I am only a vanilla Yakuza, nothing special at all.

As a vanilla Yakuza, I know I am also one of the 'least worst' options for us in terms of a lynch target, but hopefully there will be others that stand out more than I do, and to that end I will put up my thoughts on everyone. We are so close to rooting out the scummy presence here and now that there have been several casualties over the course of this ordeal I feel in a better place to evaluate everyone. I am not privy to any outside information and I am not asking for any, this is based on that much heralded "Gut Feeling". Hopefully this will get the quieter ones among us to talk up a bit. Silence means you can hide without incrimination, but it's more and more obvious as time goes on. Like Norio said when he did his list, there will no doubt be honest Yakuza in this list, but at this point we all need to be pitching in and sharing ideas, discussion and information.

Nobuo (MetroiD)

At loggerheads with Norio for much of the early days, however has calmed down a bit since. Has certainly been forthright with opinions, so I think they are most likely Yakuza.

Shizuko (CallMePieOrDie)

Not provided a great deal during the day, certainly one of the quieter ones. Possible Scum.

Noriko (Eskallon)

As above, not provided much in the way of opinions during the day. Possible Scum.

Setsuku (Fhomess)

Under suspicion today with Scum investigation reading. Hasn't been one of the more vocal peeps, but always seems to put a bit of effort in when they do talk. I am happy to trust the investifation result though, as will many people I expect.

Saburo (Masked Builder)

Too quiet and not producing much. Doesn't appear to be paying much attention. Putting aside her alignment, if we voted Cherry off for lack of involvement, then Saburo can't be far from that fate either if we have no leads.

Emi (Brickdoctor)

Says a lot, makes relevant points, but doesn't want to trust Norio, which some may find suspicious. Has it in for Lizzy during the day. I am undecided.

Lizzy (Capt. Redblade)

Posts without adding anything to the discussion, is suspicious of Shiro. Emi and Maniko are both after her for scumlike behaviour. I can see where they are coming from.

Shiro (Played by Alopex)

Doesn't say much at all, maybe one thing a day. Very suspicious. Would not be a great loss even if Yakuza. Interestingly, has caught the atention of Lizzy. Perhaps the fact we have 3 factions here means that the Agents are suspicious of the Mutineers and vice versa.

Hanako (Played by Professor Flitwick)

Hasn't brought much to the table in the day threads. Possible Scum.

Akira (Bob)

Instrumental in one lynch so far, so most likely Yakuza.

Kin (Rick)

Doesn't say much, but makes good points when they do. Undecided.

Maniko (Swils)

Doesn't post much, guilty of overcomplicating things early on. Has it in for Lizzy. Undecided.

Norio (Def)

Perhaps not quite the Towniest Town that there ever was, but certainly the talisman of the Yakuza and instrumental in a lot of the good work we have seen. Almost certainly Yakuza.

Daisuke (Scorpiox/NPC)

Has not said much of any note. Now played as an NPC means we cannot lynch them.

So, if you got this far:

Setsuku is the obvious choice to lynch today. After that, perhaps it would be interesting to see what happens with the Emi + Maniko versus Lizzy versus Shiro dynamic. I'm sure that lynching one of those off, and finding out the subsequent alignment, would put the remaining three in greater context for the rest of us.

[Capt. Redblade]

And for your own defense? Yet again you are being hypocritical, neglecting to answer my carefully laid-out concerns, and your one statement so far today hasn't been, if you don't mind me saying, particularly helpful. You're under suspicion, just like a few of us, and if you choose not to give any reason why you shouldn't be, well, that's your choice, but I think it's a damned stupid one, if you're a true templie.

Forgive me for my shyness, but the internet connection where I currently am is incredibly spotty and prone to disappearing entirely every 15 minutes I have been very tired these past few days, being unable to sleep at night with all these horrible killings within the family. However, since the connection currently appears to be working I am currently well-rested, I shall address your concerns now.

*snip*

First, indeed you are correct, I did criticize Shiro. Why did I criticize him? Because I firmly believe his quiet behaviour is suspicious, and I felt I was raising a valid point in saying so. It is true, some of what I have said has been less than helpful, but I believe my Shiro-accusing statements were quite the opposite. Norio asked us to each throw out the name of one person who was suspicious to us, and I did just that, taking the time to outline why he's in my crosshairs. I fail to see how that is not helpful.

Second, regarding my "'I'm throwing this out there, except I'm not really throwing it out there'" scene" (your words, not mine), I suspect my words were not as clear as they could have been. (You must remember, I'm a freaking lizard. It's a miracle I can speak at all. ) I was meaning to say that it would be useless to waste time looking over the votes against Tamiko, though it seems commonplace to do so in situations like that presented to us on Day Five, and it would be useless specifically because her behaviour clouded our collective vision. I merely assumed that some of the less experienced and more impulsive of us would suggest such a thing, and because it was (and is) useless, I was attempting to dissuade them preemptively.

Understand also that I did not mean to imply we vote against Tamiko's accusers, because that would imply I supported gathering evidence from the Tamiko-lynch tally, when, again, I meant quite the opposite.

The fact that you saw an accusation against Saburo and my own sainted mother where there was, in fact, none is the fault of your own paranoid mind playing tricks on you, as is the idea that I am somehow trying to lure people into a revenge vote against them without taking a direct stand on anything. Neither Saburo nor Emi-chan has crossed my radar thus far. (Okay, the latter did somewhat after my attempts to communicate with her in private were unsuccessful thanks to her callous brush-off of me, but that's neither here nor there.) My only true accusations (Day One foolishness notwithstanding) have been against Shiro, and I don't think I've been very wishy-washy in that respect. So it appears that, no, I am not afraid that making my own accusations would make me stand out too much, nor would I prefer someone else to take the reins.

I am as harmless as poor Manga's kitty. (Ooh, speaking of kitties, I'm kinda hungry right now... )

[badboytje88]

You may start voting.

[Brickdoctor]

Forgive me for my shyness, but the internet connection where I currently am is incredibly spotty and prone to disappearing entirely every 15 minutes I have been very tired these past few days, being unable to sleep at night with all these horrible killings within the family. However, since the connection currently appears to be working I am currently well-rested, I shall address your concerns now.

That doesn't change the fact that you ignored the accusations. You made a previous statement, so, evidently, you were awake enough to state that while ignoring what you've been accused of. Hoping that ignoring it would make people forget about it, or ignoring it because you couldn't think of a lie fast enough?

In any case, I Vote: Setsuku (fhomess).

[MetroiD]

Well obviously, I am going to

Vote: Setsuku (fhomess).

Trust is based on an element of uncertainty. Once something is known for certain, there's no trust required anymore. Everyone else already trusts your result. I would, too, if I were them.

While I agree with the observation regarding trust, that combined with the "there's obviously nothing I can say to change your mind" part pretty much sounds like a confession of sorts to me.

[Rick]

While I agree with the observation regarding trust, that combined with the "there's obviously nothing I can say to change your mind" part pretty much sounds like a confession of sorts to me.

Yup, giving up and not trying to give away your remaining team mate(s) in your defence definitely looks scummy.

Vote: Setsuku (fhomess)

[def]

Just for the sake of it, I'm going to Vote: Emi (masked builder brickdoctor). I fully expect Setsuko to be lynched, and will switch my vote if that somehow seems to not be happening, but I want to express my deep discomfort at the contumacious behavior shown today. We'll collectively cross our fingers that something comes up more suspicious than you tomorrow

[Rumble Strike]

As I have said before, I trust Norio and therefore will be voting as per the investigation result.

Vote: Setsuku (fhomess)

[Professor Flitwick]

This is just like day four. Vote: Setsuku (fhomess)

[Bob]

Vote: Setsuku / fhomess

I trust Norio's results since he was able to nab Hiroki for us.

[fhomess]

While I agree with the observation regarding trust, that combined with the "there's obviously nothing I can say to change your mind" part pretty much sounds like a confession of sorts to me.

No. There is a logical explanation for a scum result on me, but you will likely lynch me for it regardless. The fact is, that I am a miller. I think if you look back through my contributions, you'll see that I have been decidedly pro-Yakuza, however I have been wary to take on a larger contribution due to the fact that were I to be investigated, I would be outed as scum even though I am not. Norio now has his scum result on me, and as such I expect that most everyone will go through with the lynch.

As a miller, I have no ability beyond my own reasoning with which to catch mutineers and agents, leaving me with very little defense in light of a scum investigation result. If I were scum, I would most certainly claim something more powerful and verifiable. At this point, it's unlikely either rogue faction has goons remaining, so I would have something to claim which I could actually show my results from. Look through the day threads and you'll see that this is all consistent with all that has happened to this point.

[CMP]

Vote: Setsuku (Fhomess)

Maybe if you had told somebody earlier we wouldn't be lynching you? Miller isn't something you claim only on the chopping block.

Cherry's managed to help us even though death, God rest her blackened, ash-riddled bones. Manga will also be missed. At least a bastard from each team got nailed last night, let's hope Setsuku adds to the count.

[fhomess]

Ok, I'm going to Vote: Shizuko (CallMePieOrDie)

For the following reasons:

1. She was quick to cast suspicion on Emi's argument against Yasu on day 1, calling it vague when it was anything but.

2. She followed the bandwagon on Ichirou in an agressive manner. After others had begun accusations against Ichirou, Shizuko agressively pursued the case. This was in stark contrast to her handling of Yasu.

3. On day 3, Norio revealed Minoru as the second blocker. Shizuko then responded with a list of reasons why Minoru was suspicious, quoting Minoru several times from day 1. This is all well and good except... Shizuko did this VERY quickly after Norio revealed Minoru. So quickly in fact that I think it's highly unlikely she could have found all this and composed that reply unless she already knew Minoru was suspect.

4. She was fairly quiet on day 4, but given the result on Hiroki, that's not surprising. Hardly anyone had much to analyze after Hiroki's ineffective defense.

5. She didn't contribute really anything on day 5 other than to cast her vote.

6. After what appeared to be agressive pursuit of leads on days 1-3, Shizuko has very much become passive. Here on day 6 again, she has shown up merely to vote and join in on a seemingly easy lynch.

Maybe if you had told somebody earlier we wouldn't be lynching you?

There are different ways to approach being a miller. Claiming early to the wrong person is a very easy way to get lynch. I had no expectation earlier that there was an ability to confirm me through Tamiko, and even if there was, I'm not sure I would have been able to find that person. Had I been able to find a Yakuza role cop, they probably would have had to put their life on the line to save me. Probably not worth it, and I'd rather we have our role cop around than me anyway.

Miller isn't something you claim only on the chopping block.

Not unless it's true.

[CMP]

Ok, I'm going to Vote: Shizuko (CallMePieOrDie)

Understandable, my contributions the past 2 or 3 days have been mostly private, and even then rather lacking. But I've been confirmed townie in more ways than you could possibly imagine. But just for some closure here....

1. I've been through this repeatedly. I misused a word. Funny that Norio thinks she's scum now.

2. Yeah, this one you can put on me. At the least it led us to the lynch of Minoru, though the cost in the process was unfortunate. Also, isn't it rather townie to have a screw-up this big in public?

3. ...Okay. And I guess you forgot Minoru turned up Secret Agent?

4. Pretty much.

5. Same deal as Day 4.

6. There's not much to discuss in public with scummies present.

I know claiming to the wrong person is an easy way to get lynched. If you're Miller, though, it's completely worth the risk, since you're probably going to end up wasting one of our lynches anyway.

Bottom line is that I trust Norio and his results far more than your word.

[fhomess]

I've been confirmed townie in more ways than you could possibly imagine.

You may be right, but I haven't been privy to that information. I don't imagine my suspicions will affect you much if what you say is true.

If you're Miller, though, it's completely worth the risk, since you're probably going to end up wasting one of our lynches anyway.

Maybe, although it's also possible that we are able to hunt down the scum without getting to that point. My mistake was in how I approached Norio to try to begin working with him more when it became clear that he was most likely a true Yakuza, but hopefully I can learn from that in the future. I can still be useful to our Family as a dead-man walking, so to speak. Once we get to a point where no more unconfirmed Yakuza are around, lynch me then.

Bottom line is that I trust Norio and his results far more than your word.

This is exactly the sort of thinking that I simply cannot agree with!

[Capt. Redblade]

This is exactly the sort of thinking that I simply cannot agree with!

Wait... you can't agree with the thinking that it's better to trust an investigation result when said investigator has already proved his/her worth than it is to trust a great load of heresay and conjecture from one desperate, scummy Mutineer?

Even if there were no result, I'd be compelled to vote for you on that statement alone. But, since there is a result...

Vote: Setsuku (Fhomess)

[fhomess]

Wait... you can't agree with the thinking that it's better not to trust an investigation result when said investigator has already proved his/her worth than it is to trust a great load of heresay and conjecture from one desperate, scummy Mutineer you?

Fixed that for you.