Jedi master Brick Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Corobb has helped the town, he has been the driving force, since when has that been scummy, Nahadar is a candiate for getting my vote. Nahadar, you have been arogant ignoring Corobb's help today and ignoring the case against Asoka and Mace windu. Asoka ingored us and kept on pushing for a no lynch scenario and Mace Windo changed his mind soon as he came under pressure and has been whishy washy. While they are not the best cases they are better than your case against Corobb
Brickdoctor Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 If my judgement still means anything, perhaps you should think about lynching Master Mon, his only contribution was a load of garbage, and he voted for no reason, so yeah... It's not a bad idea, but do we really want to risk splitting the vote further? Corobb has helped the town, he has been the driving force, since when has that been scummy, Nahadar is a candiate for getting my vote. Nahadar, you have been arogant ignoring Corobb's help today and ignoring the case against Asoka and Mace windu. Asoka ingored us and kept on pushing for a no lynch scenario and Mace Windo changed his mind soon as he came under pressure and has been whishy washy. While they are not the best cases they are better than your case against Corobb "Driving force"? With all due respect to Roron, I have seen nothing to indicate that he has been a driving force.
Kadabra Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Okay, now you're just throwing out accusations left and right at whoever some of the rest of the Town seems to suspect. In a situation with only one vote allowed, I think the principle of Wishy-Washy Voting can be applied to your behavior. So your argument is that the Town will think that activity is Townie, but the Scum will know that the Town thinks that, so the Scum will be active, but the Town will know that the Scum will know that the Town thinks that activity is Townie, so the Scum will appear Townie, but that's just what the Scum wants the Town to think, so the Town should go after the active beings instead? Oh, this could go in circles for forever. Relentlessness is usually a Townie-tell. Scum prefer to agree with you, hide in the middle ground, and not draw attention by continuing to pursue one person. Clcickity chirp chirp chirp. (I'm throwing out accusations at who I think is suspect. Many seem to think that Vebb is a Townie for his relentlessness, I presented the idea he could be a Scum who's using the relentlessness tactic, which worked for Ahsoka, to appear Town himself. The other three were just plain obvious. If there was an obvious Scum, would you expect me not to accuse him solely because others were as well? )
TheBoyWonder Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 I thought only the gifted were accepted into the Jedi Temple, not the ones with the brain of a cockroach. Corobb has not done any Pro-Town things. Being rude about a potential Jedi. As I said in the past, there is no case for Ashoka, and I feel the case against Windu was too weak, I think his behaviour is more due to inexperience(Or incompetence, he has been in a few games, however you want to call it) than anything else. If my judgement still means anything, perhaps you should think about lynching Master Mon, his only contribution was a load of garbage, and he voted for no reason, so yeah... Yet again being rude to other players. That is not exactly fair what you said, as some people have probably thought what you wrote about Windu and Mon but about you. It Is distasteful and ultimately foolish behavior that adds nothing. You have said Windu may be incompetent twice now. Once is bad enough, but I feel twice is disgraceful?
Scubacarrot Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Corobb has helped the town, he has been the driving force, since when has that been scummy, Nahadar is a candiate for getting my vote. Nahadar, you have been arogant ignoring Corobb's help today and ignoring the case against Asoka and Mace windu. Asoka ingored us and kept on pushing for a no lynch scenario and Mace Windo changed his mind soon as he came under pressure and has been whishy washy. While they are not the best cases they are better than your case against Corobb With all due respect, your only reason you want to vote for me is that I accused someone you seem to revere? I fail to see your reasoning how exactly that makes me scum. Your view that Ashoka and Windu are better candidates than Corobb is something I don't share, but you are of course free to have that view... It's not a bad idea, but do we really want to risk splitting the vote further? Well, so far on the chopping board are Ashoka, Corobb and Windu. The first two are widely believed to be clear, and many seem to doubt Windu's case as well. But I think everyone can agree Master Mon's involvement has been suspicous and/or unhelpful. Being rude about a potential Jedi. Yet again being rude to other players. That is not exactly fair what you said, as some people have probably thought what you wrote about Windu and Mon but about you. It Is distasteful and ultimately foolish behavior that adds nothing. You have said Windu may be incompetent twice now. Once is bad enough, but I feel twice is disgraceful? How would you call their actions if they are not scum. Dumb? I say that is worse.
Scorpiox Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Finally, I awake to this. I am very sorry to appear this late, but yesterday the board was down I was in deep meditation. From my readings of this situation, I believe that Nahdar may be an idiot, but not necerssarily a scum. I personally believe Master Corobb has been fairly helpful for the Temple. I see the case on Master Windu, but obviously to cast my hand on my first speech without properly deciding would be stupid. I'm going to channel my meditation. Since you seem like such a good boy, Roron, how about I touch your lovely little head in a loving way? Don't worry, you can rub parts of my body simultaneously if you want.
Brickdoctor Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Clcickity chirp chirp chirp. (I'm throwing out accusations at who I think is suspect. Many seem to think that Vebb is a Townie for his relentlessness, I presented the idea he could be a Scum who's using the relentlessness tactic, which worked for Ahsoka, to appear Town himself. The other three were just plain obvious. If there was an obvious Scum, would you expect me not to accuse him solely because others were as well? ) Fair enough. You just seem to be everywhere with your suspicions Today, and not presenting much with most of them.
TheBoyWonder Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 No, you do not call them dumb. You say their actions are foolish or unhelpful. You dont say they are incompetent.
Brickdoctor Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Well, so far on the chopping board are Ashoka, Corobb and Windu. The first two are widely believed to be clear, and many seem to doubt Windu's case as well. But I think everyone can agree Master Mon's involvement has been suspicous and/or unhelpful. But even if we all agree on that, the votes are locked in once they're cast. Some of the more active have already cast their votes, and there's no guarantee that the sheep won't follow them instead.
Flare Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 I find it disturbing that Roron is so determined to announce that people shouldn't vote for Nahdar, when Nahdar has just finished having an argument with him and voting for him. Also that Coryn thinks that we shouldn't vote for Mace. And then Luminara says that we shouldn't vote for Roron. Overall I find that these rally calls to "vote for this guy, he's bad!!!!1!!" or "don't vote for this guy, I swear on my grammy's blanket he's fine!!11!11!" extremely annoying and something definitely below the level of Jedi Masters. We should make up our own minds by ourselves, and then give our opinions in an informative way instead of making rally calls and declaring people innocent. So yeah. Thats all I have to say. I will meditate on my decision for who I will vote for. Oh yeah. Nahdar has been insulting people, angry, and arguing a bunch - a sign that he is the scum?
Brickdoctor Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 No, you do not call them dumb. You say their actions are foolish or unhelpful. You dont say they are incompetent. Does it matter at this stage? Being rude and calling people incompetent might not be playing a courteous game, but it could really go either way as far as tells are concerned, and it doesn't really apply to the vote at hand.
Scubacarrot Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 No, you do not call them dumb. You say their actions are foolish or unhelpful. You dont say they are incompetent. Because calling someone foolish is less bad than dumb or incompetent. I don't share your views. In the context of the mafia game, they mean the same thing, again, keep in mind that it's a game, and don't take things personal. IRL, I would not try to lynch Flipz... And again, I am not angry, by any stretch, you would have to do a lot more than play a game with me to get me angry. The reason I used caps back then because it was a response to a post with caps in it.
Brickdoctor Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Oh yeah. Nahdar has been insulting people, angry, and arguing a bunch - a sign that he is the scum? Insulting people and being agree can be the mark of a Townie intensely frustrated by something. (or it could just be a playing style) Arguing a lot is good for the Town. It brings up plenty of discussion that we can analyze later. None of the three are really Scum-tells or Town-tells.
TheBoyWonder Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Because calling someone foolish is less bad than dumb or incompetent. I don't share your views. In the context of the mafia game, they mean the same thing, again, keep in mind that it's a game, and don't take things personal. IRL, I would not try to lynch Flipz... I don't feel you are getting my point. I was simply pointing out that it was not a good example and can be seen as a scum tell.
Flare Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Insulting people and being agree can be the mark of a Townie intensely frustrated by something. (or it could just be a playing style) Arguing a lot is good for the Town. It brings up plenty of discussion that we can analyze later. None of the three are really Scum-tells or Town-tells. Being agree? Maybe you mean "being angry", my dear mechanical friend. It seems that even droids can make errors. What makes you decide that they are "scum-tells"/"town-tells" or not? As we know that even droids make mistakes I don't understand why you state with such confidence that these people are neither scum nor townies.
Scubacarrot Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 I don't feel you are getting my point. I was simply pointing out that it was not a good example and can be seen as a scum tell. Good example? Again, it's a game, hell, I would not want anyone to take me as an example when I'm playing a game. I fail to see how choice of words can be a scum tell in this case, please explain?
TheBoyWonder Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Catwoman, lynched day 1 in Gotham Mafia on the holonet. She was overly rude, and in the end turned out as Scum.
Scubacarrot Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 But even if we all agree on that, the votes are locked in once they're cast. Some of the more active have already cast their votes, and there's no guarantee that the sheep won't follow them instead. I like to believe everyone reads the whole thread and can decide for themselves, and not do what prominent people tell them to, but that's probably just wishful thinking on my part.
Flipz Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 So your argument is that the Town will think that activity is Townie, but the Scum will know that the Town thinks that, so the Scum will be active, but the Town will know that the Scum will know that the Town thinks that activity is Townie, so the Scum will appear Townie, but that's just what the Scum wants the Town to think, so the Town should go after the active beings instead? Oh, this could go in circles for forever. "Ah, that's what's been bugging me about Master Vebb's argument. She's been making liberal use of Scum favorite WIFOM." It's not a bad idea, but do we really want to risk splitting the vote further? "Driving force"? With all due respect to Roron, I have seen nothing to indicate that he has been a driving force. "Right now, we could safely pick a new candidate for the lynch if all of us who have not yet voted agree on a candidate. However, if we are to pick a new candidate, we should do it soon. If we do pick a new candidate, I am more inclined to vote for Ili Seosty for her overly hasty and completely unjustified vote than for Jedi Monn. Monn, at least, had SOME reasoning behind him, even if it was rather flimsy." "And holy heck, no less than SIX statements appear while I try and finish mine?!"
TheBoyWonder Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 I was just raising a point. I do agree with you on the case of Mon, but I just felt the way it was worded was poor.
Flare Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 "Ah, that's what's been bugging me about Master Vebb's argument. She's been making liberal use of Scum favorite WIFOM." Why does everyone keep referring to Vebb as a she!?
Flipz Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 I find it disturbing that Roron is so determined to announce that people shouldn't vote for Nahdar, when Nahdar has just finished having an argument with him and voting for him. Also that Coryn thinks that we shouldn't vote for Mace. And then Luminara says that we shouldn't vote for Roron. "I noticed that several of my fellow Jedi had come to my defense, and I wanted to encourage them not to hastily vote for Master Vebb. Our votes are too valuable to waste in the heat of the moment, even if we do decide to lynch Vebb, we need to do it calmly and rationally. Without fear, without anger, solely with the good of the Temple in mind. "
Flare Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 "I noticed that several of my fellow Jedi had come to my defense, and I wanted to encourage them not to hastily vote for Master Vebb. Our votes are too valuable to waste in the heat of the moment, even if we do decide to lynch Vebb, we need to do it calmly and rationally. Without fear, without anger, solely with the good of the Temple in mind. " You should've said it this way earlier, instead of: "ATTENTION EVERYONE! I want to encourage you NOT to vote for Jedi Vebb. She may be rather aggressive and misguided, but we CANNOT afford to make rash, hasty decisions. If she continues her scummy behavior, then she may indeed be the best candidate, but we MUST give her every chance to redeem herself. Again, I say: DO NOT VOTE FOR NAHDAR VEBB!"
Flipz Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Why does everyone keep referring to Vebb as a she!? "Because I don't watch The Clone Wars and mistook him for a 'she.' Apologies, Master Vebb, I am notoriously bad at noticing gender differences among Mon Calamari."
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