Brickdoctor Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Agree with you, but that is why it is ridiculous to lynch somebody based on how active they have been. Scum could post a lot in an attempt to look like town, or they could post very little in an attempt to not look like a scum pretending to be town. Yes, exactly. I was saying that high activity isn't a Scum-tell.
Palathadric Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Corobb has helped the town, he has been the driving force, since when has that been scummy, Nahadar is a candiate for getting my vote. Nahadar, you have been arogant ignoring Corobb's help today and ignoring the case against Asoka and Mace windu. Asoka ingored us and kept on pushing for a no lynch scenario and Mace Windo changed his mind soon as he came under pressure and has been whishy washy. While they are not the best cases they are better than your case against Corobb The driving force? Really?!? I didn't see him being particularly helpful, I just see him as a loud mouth who wants all the attention on himself. No offence, Master Corobb. However, from what I can tell, three individuals: Corobb, Coryn, and C-3PO seem to be in some sort of "untouchable" group where there seems to be little doubt in anyone's mind that they are town through-and-through. I greatly admire Nahdar for stepping out and putting some pressure on Corobb who, in my opinion, has not taken too well to it. Nevertheless, I don't see Corobb getting lynched today, so instead of talking about him and Nahdar and trying to analyze their situation, I say we look more at those who came under suspicion earlier on, especially those who already have votes against them...you know, see if they'll snap.
ADHO15 Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Nahdar and Vebb working together... That seems... Highly possible . In all seriousness, I addressed this earlier, and don't feel like repeating myself, (again). And how am I being influential if I try to make people think for themselves and say people should not just do what the most prominent people say? Sorry, that should read 'Nahdar and Windu'. Well quotes like these... You guys are not listening, I don't know for sure if Windu is or is not scum, I said this clearly in the past, I just think Corobb is more likely to be scum, hence my actions, my reasoning and subsequently when I got no awnsers: my vote. Corobb has defended himself, and has failed to convince me as of yet. --- Vote for who you want, but think it over. Perhaps I have been too rash with voting so early, but I hoped it would spark some action from Corobb, which it did, but not to my satisfactory, and he instead got defended by others for no real reason (Or is there?). To me it is clear, but it is also clear to me I won't convince many of you. Which is a shame. If my judgement still means anything, perhaps you should think about lynching Master Mon, his only contribution was a load of garbage, and he voted for no reason, so yeah... Well, so far on the chopping board are Ashoka, Corobb and Windu. The first two are widely believed to be clear, and many seem to doubt Windu's case as well. But I think everyone can agree Master Mon's involvement has been suspicous and/or unhelpful. ... seem a little influential to me. You also defended Master Windu quite a bit, which you are free to do, but it just adds to the idea I have.
Palathadric Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Fair enough. You just seem to be everywhere with your suspicions Today, and not presenting much with most of them. Splitting the vote really doesn't matter much as far as I can see. There will be a lynch today, even if the person with the highest number of votes has only three against them, that's what I seem to understand from what Master Yoda told us. The only reason to be afraid of splitting the votes is that the votes will get so low that the scum will all be able to vote for one person and take him down with now issue. I don't think this should be a problem as if we lynch a townie today, naturally those who voted for him will be under suspicion, right?
Brickdoctor Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Splitting the vote really doesn't matter much as far as I can see. There will be a lynch today, even if the person with the highest number of votes has only three against them, that's what I seem to understand from what Master Yoda told us. The only reason to be afraid of splitting the votes is that the votes will get so low that the scum will all be able to vote for one person and take him down with now issue. I don't think this should be a problem as if we lynch a townie today, naturally those who voted for him will be under suspicion, right? That's not my exact fear. I observe that there are a lot of sheep (no names) in this situation, and my fear is that if the votes are split, the sheep will get confused with all these accusations being thrown out and bandwagon behind a few votes for those who are now looking less Scummy than some other suspects.
Scubacarrot Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Sorry, that should read 'Nahdar and Windu'. Well quotes like these... ... seem a little influential to me. You also defended Master Windu quite a bit, which you are free to do, but it just adds to the idea I have. Hmpf, If you see that as influential, I must disagree, I gave my views on how to continue, but I don't think I tried to influence anyone, or do you mean everyone else who has suggested targets for lynching is influencing people as well? If I am missing your point, please tell. I am reading back on what I said, and what I said COULD be interpretated as defending Master Windu, but its a stretch. A big stretch. Mostly I brought forth my own suspect, when the focus was on Windu, and yes, I already explained that one, and by that conjecture every person that brings forth new suspects must be working with the previous person in the spotlight...
Palathadric Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Yoda orCommander Gree could you inform us on the hours remaining in this day. With all that has been going on I totally lost track of time. I don't want to miss voting due to me losing track of time. I just don't know who to vote for. Discussion has been going from left to right and I am still debating on who I should vote for. Yes, I would really like to know this, also I have no idea how much time we have left, even without any additional hours being added. I don't want to go of to meditate for several hours and wake up to find I have been penalized for not voting as Hugar said.
Flipz Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Yes, I would really like to know this, also I have no idea how much time we have left, even without any additional hours being added. I don't want to go of to meditate for several hours and wake up to find I have been penalized for not voting as Hugar said. Relax, Master Kenobi, we have at least a full day. The announcement was made yesterday, and we were told we had 48 hours to vote. "After reviewing the holovids and performing the calculations, I calculate we have just over 27 hours to vote. So, no rush! "
Palathadric Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Relax, Master Kenobi, we have at least a full day. The announcement was made yesterday, and we were told we had 48 hours to vote. "After reviewing the holovids and performing the calculations, I calculate we have just over 27 hours to vote. So, no rush! " Thank you! I saw the opening time of the post and calculated 48 hours from then was disturbed in spirit. But obviously a day is 72 hours long. I suppose everyone's panicky attitudes and desire to vote affected me somewhat.
ADHO15 Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Hmpf, If you see that as influential, I must disagree, I gave my views on how to continue, but I don't think I tried to influence anyone, or do you mean everyone else who has suggested targets for lynching is influencing people as well? If I am missing your point, please tell. Well if I have to pick the very words out, what I find somewhat influential is: To me it is clear, but it is also clear to me I won't convince many of you. Which is a shame. If my judgement still means anything, perhaps you should think about lynching Master Mon, his only contribution was a load of garbage, and he voted for no reason, so yeah... But I think everyone can agree Master Mon's involvement has been suspicous and/or unhelpful. If you feel so inclined, why don't you vote, if that is what you think is the right thing? You seem to be trying to move the focus from Master Windu to Master Corobb first, and then Master Von, even though that is not where you placed your own vote. Obviously that is not what I mean or your actions would not have stood out to me. In any case, you are not the one I'm accusing, so this discussion doesn't really matter. It just makes you seem a little over-defensive to me. I am reading back on what I said, and what I said COULD be interpretated as defending Master Windu, but its a stretch. A big stretch. Mostly I brought forth my own suspect, when the focus was on Windu, and yes, I already explained that one, and by that conjecture every person that brings forth new suspects must be working with the previous person in the spotlight... Do not speak in that way. Like I said, this situation is not the same as whatever others you are comparing it to, or I would not be focused on your actions now and you would not be trying to deny defence of Master Windu. Maybe you know he'll be found to be Sith if he's lynched and then the spotlight will be on you? Windu could be wiped off as incompetence. - Clearly a defence. If you guys think I'm trying to stop the vote for Windu, you are mistaken, does it look like that? I don't think so. Why would I do that?? It makes no sense, at all. But know that if we lynch Windu, and he turns out innocent, we will have gotten almost nowhere, I fear. - This is a denial of defence, which has no weighting whatsoever as you give no reasoning. As I said in the past, there is no case for Ashoka, and I feel the case against Windu was too weak, I think his behaviour is more due to inexperience(Or incompetence, he has been in a few games, however you want to call it) than anything else. - Clearly a defence. and many seem to doubt Windu's case as well. - A quick addition to remind sheep not to consider voting Master Windu anymore. Okay, you know what, if you are damn set on lynching Windu, go ahead. I'll talk to you in the morning, bye. - This looks like your defence of Windu and attempts to sway the votes away from him have failed and you're giving up your argument. Like I said, my focus is really on voting for Master Windu, so if you do not wish to defend him, then stop. EDIT: 'Master Von' should read 'Master Mon'.
Flipz Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Well if I have to pick the very words out, what I find somewhat influential is: You seem to be trying to move the focus from Master Windu to Master Corobb first, and then Master Von, even though that is not where you placed your own vote. Obviously that is not what I mean or your actions would not have stood out to me. In any case, you are not the one I'm accusing, so this discussion doesn't really matter. It just makes you seem a little over-defensive to me. Do not speak in that way. Like I said, this situation is not the same as whatever others you are comparing it to, or I would not be focused on your actions now and you would not be trying to deny defence of Master Windu. Maybe you know he'll be found to be Sith if he's lynched and then the spotlight will be on you? - Clearly a defence. - This is a denial of defence, which has no weighting whatsoever as you give no reasoning. - Clearly a defence. - A quick addition to remind sheep not to consider voting Master Windu anymore. - This looks like your defence of Windu and attempts to sway the votes away from him have failed and you're giving up your argument. Like I said, my focus is really on voting for Master Windu, so if you do not wish to defend him, then stop. EDIT: 'Master Von' should read 'Master Mon'. "Hmm...interesting. Jedi Vebb's defense of Master Windu seems to have cast more suspicion on the latter than Master Windu's own statements." "Master Fisto, would you mind giving us your own analysis of Master Windu's exact statements? I know several others have already shared their own point-by-point analysis, but I'd like to hear your opinions. " "Also, Master Windu, PLEASE just SAY something already! I don't want to vote for you until you've had a chance to defend yourself, but if you don't show up, I may have to. "
Scubacarrot Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Well if I have to pick the very words out, what I find somewhat influential is: You seem to be trying to move the focus from Master Windu to Master Corobb first, and then Master Von, even though that is not where you placed your own vote. Obviously that is not what I mean or your actions would not have stood out to me. In any case, you are not the one I'm accusing, so this discussion doesn't really matter. It just makes you seem a little over-defensive to me. Do not speak in that way. Like I said, this situation is not the same as whatever others you are comparing it to, or I would not be focused on your actions now and you would not be trying to deny defence of Master Windu. Maybe you know he'll be found to be Sith if he's lynched and then the spotlight will be on you? - Clearly a defence. - This is a denial of defence, which has no weighting whatsoever as you give no reasoning. - Clearly a defence. - A quick addition to remind sheep not to consider voting Master Windu anymore. - This looks like your defence of Windu and attempts to sway the votes away from him have failed and you're giving up your argument. Like I said, my focus is really on voting for Master Windu, so if you do not wish to defend him, then stop. EDIT: 'Master Von' should read 'Master Mon'. You tell me not to speak to you "That way" while your whole post is useless? You have not read clearly what I have been saying, I am going to repeat myself and explain one last time, I hope it gets through your thick skull now. All these points I have dealt with, if you really think I have been defending him, you are wrong, I have been shifting the focus from Windu to Corobb, YES, that is what happens when you accuse someone. YES, I pointed out Master Mon's behaviour. Because both he and Ili displayed in my eyes more suspicious behaviour. Calling someone incompetent is hardly a defence, I might add, Hell, if there were no better options, hell yeah, I would lynch Windu, he has been useless to us so far, at least that is something we can all agree on. If you tell me to stop, then your whole point is useless, you want to have the last word, is that it? I am supposed to just take megablocks thrown at me? Your logic is flawed, your focus seems to be that I was defending Windu, which I was clearly not. I was making my case against Corobb, and guess what, you can't lynch two people at once. Any more megablocks?
Alex the Great Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Okay, I have meditated awhile longer and have come to some observations. The ones at the top of my suspect list right now are lil Seosty, Mace Windu, and Volvif Monn. Seosty and Windu have been accused of scummy acts and haven't defended themselves at all. But I find Volvif the most scummy. A few pages back he posted an extremely long summary of Ahsoka's posts, without really saying anything about it. To me the long post seemed to me acting like a helpful townie, when it was really just jibberish. Then he topped it off with a vote of Ahsoka who many of us decided that she was most likely town. Seemed like a scum trying to get the bandwagon going again and finishing her off. So I FoS: Volvif Monn (Jackjonespaw). Though seeing as many of us are looking to lynch Windu, then I will support that lynch also. Unless Windu speaks up and defends himself!
Piranha Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Quite a bit has transpired since I was last in the temple, this is what stood out to me. Seeing that there has been much debate on this, I cannot vote for anyone without any shred of proof. I think that Master(?) Corrob has been thinking over this and counterplotting counterplots for counterplots and thus I wish to: FoS: Roron Corobb (Flipz) This statement which was made by Quinlan Vos was incredibly unhelpful without much insight and appeared soon after Nahdar had cast his FoS. I also fail to see any logic whatsoever in in. You have just summed up about the whole day so far. Thank you, but we were all here, and those who weren't can listen to the holorecordings. You only said what others have discussed before and you didn't arrive at any conclusion at all, so, you have just done a long, but unhelpful statement. Congratulations, you have earned yourself an FoS: Ithra Srryn/Macoco That was my recap of the people who were on my suspect list, and I supported it with reasons of why. I thought that was evident to see? I am going to FoS three people: FoS: Mace Windu - Nightshroud99 Extremely unhelpful and has posted strange erratic defenses. FoS: Ili Seosty - Sisco The first to vote against Ahsoka and maybe trying to start a bandwagon based on all of the previous discussions. Very few helpful comments previously. I too was suspicious of Ahsoka but I do think that she was just trying to lay the options on the table. As I said before we can't punish those who try and spark the discussion. FoS: Quinlan Vos - VolanicPanik No real reason for him suspecting Roron Corobb and I do see it as trying to shift the discussion away from Mace Windu.
Scubacarrot Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 "Hmm...interesting. Jedi Vebb's defense of Master Windu seems to have cast more suspicion on the latter than Master Windu's own statements." Again it's not a defense, and even if I did cast more suspicion on Windu, I could not care less, all I care about is that we lynch a scum, and not an innocent. You know my views of this now, or you should. I don't see why people can't read what I am saying.
fhomess Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Bop dip dop dooop blip fsssss. [sorry to throw another name out there that has to this point flown under the radar, but I'd like to point at Hugar Ssiht. I've been sitting on this name for a bit to see if it moved particularly in one or the other direction for me. Bear with me to the end, please, as that's where the real meat is.] Why are you asking me? Why would you doubt Master Yoda's judgement.May I also remind you guys that discussing tactics in public might not be the smartest move since everyone can hear what you say. Bip bop bip bop beeep. [The first statement was an innocuous response. The second one can be seen either way. There are elements of towniness in hiding information from scum, but elements of scumminess in not wanting town to discuss. Not much here yet.] And if I might add I am in no way hesitant to vote for people who aren't contributing, so by saying nothing at all you are not helping. I know that this is day 1 so most of us don't have much to say (including myself) but there are also those who haven't spoken up yet... Blip blip baaup bup boop bip bip. [i ended up responding to this to argue that voting for a quiet person isn't a terrible strategy, but will help us templies less than voting out someone who had been outspoken but appeared scummy. My reasoning for this was that a quiet person is just as likely to be pro-Jedi as they are pro-Sith, and we'll have nothing to look back on later as evidence one way or another in terms of how other people reacted to that suggestion. To me, quiet people are who you vote out when you really don't know who to vote for. By this point, I think we've had enough conversation around people that we ought to have a suspicion on someone who has been active.] Thanks, I was just about to look the names up. Badeep. [Nothing to see here, really.] Wow, someone voted already... That is fast! A bit too fast of you look at the amount of time still left in this day. I do have to admit that it takes some guts to throw the frist stone. What really throws me off is how fast Foulard Moudama followed... Without adding a good reason I might add... Boop bip bop biiiilp doop bop beep. [This was just about everyone's reaction and would have been something very easy for a Sith to pounce on as a way to look like they're invested in helping the temple. The thing is, this response came several hours after these votes had been cast and several others had already made this exact comment. Yoda orCommander Gree could you inform us on the hours remaining in this day. With all that has been going on I totally lost track of time. I don't want to miss voting due to me losing track of time. I just don't know who to vote for. Discussion has been going from left to right and I am still debating on who I should vote for. Bip doop dip beeep [Maybe someone should make another list of quiet people so you can pick one out at random. Even after all this talking, you still don't have any inkling who looks suspicious?] Waaaaauuuuuuuup bip bip beep dip dop blip doop. Screeeeeeeeeuuuuuuwwwwww! Blip. [What I haven't mentioned yet is that shortly after my discussion with Hugar about the value of voting for quiet people versus active players, he suggested to me that we try to protect a particular player who had been outspoken to that point and appeared to be a good templie. The way it was phrased struck me as a Sith subversive, trying to find out my role or any information I might have about other people's power roles. Now it appears that Hugar hasn't suggested that just to me, but has also suggested the same idea to another member of the temple. Is he trying to find power roles so early, with no reason for us to trust him? Is he trying to distract a protector from his intended target? If you look at his comments to this point, none of them have been all that helpful, and there's very little of substance in terms of commenting on what's been happening either. It's mostly inane observations and what looks like waiting to see how things fall out before committing. FoS: Hugar Ssiht Hugar, please explain yourself.]
ADHO15 Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 "Hmm...interesting. Jedi Vebb's defense of Master Windu seems to have cast more suspicion on the latter than Master Windu's own statements." "Master Fisto, would you mind giving us your own analysis of Master Windu's exact statements? I know several others have already shared their own point-by-point analysis, but I'd like to hear your opinions. " "Also, Master Windu, PLEASE just SAY something already! I don't want to vote for you until you've had a chance to defend yourself, but if you don't show up, I may have to. " Very well. I shall gather my thoughts on Master Windu himself whilst keeping up with what's being said now. Don't forget that he may be busy for some parts of the day, so saying things like that to him when he can't see them doesn't influence his decision to post. If you've been tracking him and seen him come here since without speaking, then I retract my statement. You tell me not to speak to you "That way" while your whole post is useless? You have not read clearly what I have been saying, I am going to repeat myself and explain one last time, I hope it gets through your thick skull now. All these points I have dealt with, if you really think I have been defending him, you are wrong, I have been shifting the focus from Windu to Corobb, YES, that is what happens when you accuse someone. YES, I pointed out Master Mon's behaviour. Because both he and Ili displayed in my eyes more suspicious behaviour. Calling someone incompetent is hardly a defence, I might add, Hell, if there were no better options, hell yeah, I would lynch Windu, he has been useless to us so far, at least that is something we can all agree on. If you tell me to stop, then your whole point is useless, you want to have the last word, is that it? I am supposed to just take megablocks thrown at me? Your logic is flawed, your focus seems to be that I was defending Windu, which I was clearly not. I was making my case against Corobb, and guess what, you can't lynch two people at once. Any more megablocks? Hooray, he's getting angry... again! Surely I'm getting somewhere. What has your aggressive/defensive tone got to do with your perceived validity of my ideas? Alright, so instead of dealing with them now to back-up your claims and improve your defence, you'll simply tell me that I have ignored what you said and that you've already dealt with the points I just made? How odd! Very well. You're perfectly entitled to share new suspicions, but as I've displayed, moving the focus from Master Windu while defending him gives me the idea that you specifically do not want people to vote for him. I know you'll tell me that you weren't defending him, but I clearly think you were, so save your breath. Maybe it's not a very polite way of stating it, but you are excusing whatever scum-like behaviour occurred as inexperience, which is a form of defending that person from allegations of being a Sith. Fine, keep repeating yourself and get worked up all day. Like you said, it's useless. Well, like I said, I clearly think you were defending Master Windu, so saying 'my logic is flawed' without backing it up doesn't really help your case. I'm well aware of the rules, thank you. Evidently more than you if you have decided that your own vote was "rash" and have since found a more suitable candidate for lynching. FoS: Quinlan Vos - VolanicPanik No real reason for him suspecting Roron Corobb and I do see it as trying to shift the discussion away from Mace Windu. I shall have to look at this more, but this statement suggests he could be placed in the 'same airspeeder' as young Nahdar.
Flipz Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Very well. I shall gather my thoughts on Master Windu himself whilst keeping up with what's being said now. Don't forget that he may be busy for some parts of the day, so saying things like that to him when he can't see them doesn't influence his decision to post. If you've been tracking him and seen him come here since without speaking, then I retract my statement. "Master Windu retired to his chambers just before Padawan Offee placed her vote on him. By that point, he already had two votes against him, as well as several Fingers of Suspicion, and yet he did not speak. At all. " "And for the record, yes, I am stalking all of you. If that disturbs you, get over it. "
ADHO15 Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 "Master Fisto, would you mind giving us your own analysis of Master Windu's exact statements? I know several others have already shared their own point-by-point analysis, but I'd like to hear your opinions. " It seems Jedi Kelens and the protocol droid stated their reasons for suspecting Master Windu in recordings #166 and #176 respectively. I agree with their points and they state their arguments better than I could, so I urge you to re-read those. "Master Windu retired to his chambers just before Padawan Offee placed her vote on him. By that point, he already had two votes against him, as well as several Fingers of Suspicion, and yet he did not speak. At all. " "And for the record, yes, I am stalking all of you. If that disturbs you, get over it. " Ah, fair enough. In that case he should have an impressive defence formulated by the time he returns. And thank you, little droid, for bringing Jedi Ssiht's statements to our attention. I shall wait to hear what he has to say, but that could become an interesting case.
Palathadric Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 "Master Windu retired to his chambers just before Padawan Offee placed her vote on him. By that point, he already had two votes against him, as well as several Fingers of Suspicion, and yet he did not speak. At all. " Pardon me, what do you mean by "retired to his chambers?" Do you mean he went offline? In that case, how is he supposed to respond? And thank you, little droid, for bringing Jedi Ssiht's statements to our attention. I shall wait to hear what he has to say, but that could become an interesting case. Yes, I found it interesting, particularly as one or two other shared similar feelings with me personally before the droid commented. I am keeping an eye on you Ssiht.
Peanuts Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 You have just summed up about the whole day so far. Thank you, but we were all here, and those who weren't can listen to the holorecordings. You only said what others have discussed before and you didn't arrive at any conclusion at all, so, you have just done a long, but unhelpful statement. Congratulations, you have earned yourself an FoS: Ithra Srryn/Macoco That was my recap of the people who were on my suspect list, and I supported it with reasons of why. I thought that was evident to see? Seriously? Okay, let's have a look at your suspect list. Here is my recap: Useless metagame, although I do actually think he was just curious about our past missions. Useless metagame again, implying Anakin and having suspects before most Jedi even spoke, but he did explain later that he wasn't talking about his "real" suspicions yet. These first two were about Master Corobb. You said this post was about people who were on your suspect list, and these were the reasons why they are. But your first quote just reminds us he was metagaming, which is not per se scummy (and you said it wasn't scummy), while your second quote is about metagaming and his sentence about suspects, which had already been discussed. These are no reason to suspect anyone, and, in fact, are completely superfluous. I could understand it if something more concrete had been following, but no. You go on about Ahsoka. Suggesting to not lynch. This is the only thing you brought up against Ahsoka. It is a) not much and b) not much of an analysis. Actually, you just state the obvious. Suggesting a tie vote, useless. You go on about Anakin. And yet, no analysis, no opinion, nothing. Just what's there for everyone to read, which had been discussed before, too. Jumping on Anakin for bringing up the tie vote plan. Next to be quoted is Aayla. So, you suspect her because she jumps on Anakin after his voting plan? No reason to suspect anyone. And once again, nothing more than a summary of her post. Useless and somewhat distracting comment. Now comes Master Koon. I don't say Master Koon was trustworthy, but all you say is "Useless and somewhat distracting comment." That's no accusation either. Yes, his post has been usless, but you're just pointing that out, nothing more. Again. Going in circles of who is a Sith and who isn't, leading to nowhere. Here you simply say the same thing C-3PO had said before. Just in a far less helpful manner. Useless/distracting comment. By the way, just saying something is useless and distracting is also useless and distracting. Either you go the whole hog or you don't. Just pointing something out like that helps nobody, but it certainly looks helpful if you don't pay attention. That's why I suspect you. I do agree with Master Fisto that we shouldn't automatically jump on the ones who were trying to spark a conversation to try and expose the Sith. Except for the fact that you were simply agreeing with Master Fisto this sentence is more valuable than every other sentence in this post before. I would agree, the more we talk the better we can get a feel for who might be acting scummy. That should be self-evident, and you only agreed with master Corobb. But it's true, though. I would like to go back to this, I also think that Master Windu has not been of any help either, however I think that Nahdar was confused and Master Corobb explained to him that he wanted to be investigated then contacted as a trusted Jedi. Whereas Nahdar originally thought that Master Corobb was saying a scummy thing to suggest that the power roles contact him. Sounds like you simply agree and then sum up the argument of Master Corobb and Knight Vebb, which had been settled before. Can you clarify this statement please? Do you mean in the same air speeder as having only posted once? Or being suspicious of Ahsoka? Well, you ask a question, which should be allowed. Even though the answer was fairly obvious, as the most prominent members of the Anti-Ahsoka movement at this point had not been mentioned to be in said Speeder. So, not much of 'reasons' or a 'suspect list' there, but lots of 'evident to see'.
Tamamono Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Frankly, all these new suspects and this splitting of the vote is detrimental to the town. I have several suspects that haven't been brought up yet, but they can wait until tomorrow. If we split the vote any further, it's very likely that someone we don't want to be lynched will get lynched by accident. Master Ssiht has been pretty suspicious, yes, but I'd rather leave him to the night action Jedi than split the vote any more. The same goes for Master Monn.
Flipz Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Pardon me, what do you mean by "retired to his chambers?" Do you mean he went offline? In that case, how is he supposed to respond? "What I mean is, there were SEVERAL statements outstanding against Master Windu, and yet he decided to retire to his chambers to meditate rather than address them. He didn't even drop in with a short statement to say 'OK, I see I've become a suspect, I don't have time to defend myself now, but I'll be back in a couple of hours.' This does NOT help his credibility." "If I've missed some defense Master Windu has made since people voted for him, PLEASE tell me. I'm going to look over the holorecordings yet again, but I don't think I'll find anything along the lines of a defense. "
Palathadric Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Ah! Thanks for clarifying, I was rather confused. And no, there is no defense as far as I can see. Perhaps it was late and he did not want to tackle it in his sleepy state. I'm off to meditate myself now.
Flipz Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 "Confirmed: Master Windu has said nothing since Jedi Kellyns and Master Unduli cast their votes, even though he was awake for quite some time afterwards. "
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