Brickdoctor Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 Gee thanks father. Thank you for throwing me under the bus so easily without any discussion on our writeboard. I shot myself in the foot today, yes, but you could have at least tried to support me later on, without going behind my back and laying out my faults for the whole temple to see. No honor among sith it seems. I really don't care anymore about this temple and you worthless Jedi. I am going to Vote: C-3PO (Brickdoctor) You people want to do the same, then fine vote C-3PO my esteemed master out, because I’m the usurper you jerk. I’ve just done everybody a favor right now so how about you guys do me a favor so that I at least achieve my win condition, vote brickdoctor off and then the vig can come and kill me tonight. That's so hilarious and there are so many things wrong with that accusation that it doesn't even deserve enough of my attention for me to defend against it.Vote: Mace Windu (Nightshroud99)
Tamamono Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 I'd just like to make an anonymous shoutout to the vigilante to tell him/her to not kill 3PO tonight. If he's actually scum, which is doubful, he'll have protection tonight anyway. However, I honestly believe he's town. There's no need for you to waste your fire on a townie.
Flipz Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 "Well, I'm off to meditate for the next several hours. Good luck, Jedi! Do what you must, and hopefully I'll be able to speak with all of you one last time before Windu meets the firing squad. Good night!"
badboytje88 Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 At one point i really didn't know who to vote for, but this has made things that much more easy. Vote: Mace Windu (Nightshroud99)
Jedi master Brick Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 This is easy now, Mace windy has baasicly confessed and then said vote for 3 CPO, someone who has helped the town a lot today so the obvious choice is Vote: Mace Windu (Nightshroud99)
fhomess Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 Bleep bip boop dip dop. Weeeeeeeeeeeeyoup! [Well, that was certainly an unexpectedly convenient turn of events. Vote: Mace Windu (Nightshroud99)]
Darth Nihilus Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 Sorry, Mace, but you're not getting that win condition. Vote: Mace Windu (Nightshroud99)
TheBoyWonder Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 Okay, it seems a lot has happened. Windu has confessed to being scum, claims he is the usurper as well as saying C3PO is the godfather. C3PO should be investigated, but I also think he should be blocked. Although, If Windu is telling the truth, we should have an easy lynch.
Brickdoctor Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 C3PO is the godfather. C3PO should be investigated I welcome an investigation, but do you even know what a Godfather's abilities are?
TheBoyWonder Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 I am so stupid. Forgot that. But, there are other ways of investigating. I.E trackers, watchers and Role Cops.
Tachyon Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 Well it is inevitable that master Windu must die and the evidence ponts towards him so Vote: Mace Windu (Nightshroud99)
Scubacarrot Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 Seriously, I mean, seriously? Well, I'm stomped. I find it hard to believe the claim against C3PO, to be honest, I can imagine he wants to bring a townie with him, but with this guy, I'm not so sure.
Flare Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 Not much to say about this that hasn't already been said, I think this confession makes it pretty worthwhile to: Vote: Mace Windu (Nightshroud99)
TheBoyWonder Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 Well it is inevitable that master Windu must die and the evidence ponts towards him so Vote: Mace Windu (Nightshroud99) That was only your second post like Quinlan Vos. Earlier on you posted, adding nothing to the table. So, tomorrow, If windu is innocent we should look into these 'Jedi' . Quinlan Vos, Volvif Moon and Saeesee Tiin
Darth Nihilus Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 Seriously, I mean, seriously? Well, I'm stomped. I find it hard to believe the claim against C3PO, to be honest, I can imagine he wants to bring a townie with him, but with this guy, I'm not so sure. I know Master Corobb will gut me for this, but a character like me in a holovid I watched sold out the Scum to a character like him, and the Scum ended up losing. Maybe he's trying to replicate that situation? It's impossible to tell until we lynch him and find out his true alignment rather than his claim of being Scum, even though I don't see any reason for him to say he's Scum when he's really town. He could be a Jester, but I think that's pretty unlikely.
Scubacarrot Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 I know Master Corobb will gut me for this, but a character like me in a holovid I watched sold out the Scum to a character like him, and the Scum ended up losing. Maybe he's trying to replicate that situation? It's impossible to tell until we lynch him and find out his true alignment rather than his claim of being Scum, even though I don't see any reason for him to say he's Scum when he's really town. He could be a Jester, but I think that's pretty unlikely. I don't think I full understand what you mean. It is beyond obvious that Windu is scum, at least logic would suggest so. I don't think he would be a Jester, since he would have no reason to involve C-3PO, I think. The reason for that is: 1: he is genuine, and C-3PO is really the Godfather, or 2: he is lying to get a townie with him in his fall. Or the extremely unlikely 3: He is trying to use backwards psychology to make us think C-3PO is town, because it is him that accused him. As I said, I am leaning towards option 2. But nevertheless, it should be tested, and if the Godfather in this game follows traditional rules (Godfather has no nightaction) it will be hard for us to confirm or deny it.
TheBoyWonder Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 Huh, a lot of things have been going on since my internet stopped working I went to my chambers. Along with Master Corobb, I find it suspicious that Master Windu has not made some sort of defense against the accusations. I wonder what the future will bring. How long is there until the voting stops? Here, Volvif Moon appears and says nothing about my vote for him. I believe he goes on to post again, but also says nothing about my vote and accusation. He has added little today as well as voting for Ahsoka who had the suspicion removed from her earlier.
badboytje88 Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 Well since R2D2 wants me to explain, here goes Bop dip dop dooop blip fsssss. [sorry to throw another name out there that has to this point flown under the radar, but I'd like to point at Hugar Ssiht. I've been sitting on this name for a bit to see if it moved particularly in one or the other direction for me. Bear with me to the end, please, as that's where the real meat is.] It's your good right to be critical about what people are saying. It's day one, it's all we got to base our votes on. Bip bop bip bop beeep. [The first statement was an innocuous response. The second one can be seen either way. There are elements of towniness in hiding information from scum, but elements of scumminess in not wanting town to discuss. Not much here yet.] While I am all for having as much discussion as possible in this big public room, I felt the tactics which were spoken of at that point would benefit from being discussed in a more private location. But then again, we had no clue of who was scum so discussing something in private would not automatically mean the sith wouldn't hear about it since we don't know who the sith are. Blip blip baaup bup boop bip bip. [i ended up responding to this to argue that voting for a quiet person isn't a terrible strategy, but will help us templies less than voting out someone who had been outspoken but appeared scummy. My reasoning for this was that a quiet person is just as likely to be pro-Jedi as they are pro-Sith, and we'll have nothing to look back on later as evidence one way or another in terms of how other people reacted to that suggestion. To me, quiet people are who you vote out when you really don't know who to vote for. By this point, I think we've had enough conversation around people that we ought to have a suspicion on someone who has been active.] I still think lynching someone who isn't speaking, and thus isn't helping is an OK strategy. As R2D2 said at that time there was enough conversation around some people that it wasn't needed to vote for a silent guy. With my post I was just trying to point out that there were people who hadn't spoken up yet and I wanted to let them know that they to should contribute to the discussion. I wasn't suggesting to start a lynch mob on one of them. I was just trying to get them to speak up. Badeep. [Nothing to see here, really.] Boop bip bop biiiilp doop bop beep. [This was just about everyone's reaction and would have been something very easy for a Sith to pounce on as a way to look like they're invested in helping the temple. The thing is, this response came several hours after these votes had been cast and several others had already made this exact comment. Well I know that there already were several others who had already made a comment similar to mine. I was missing a reply to those comments. I thought, and still think, that Foul hopped a little bit fast on the bandwagon against Ahsoka, especially since we don't get to unvote. So I wanted him to elaborate his decision which he did. Bip doop dip beeep [Maybe someone should make another list of quiet people so you can pick one out at random. Even after all this talking, you still don't have any inkling who looks suspicious?] Oh I sure had a top 3 I was going to choose from, I just didn't know which one. I was just wondering how long we had till the day would close since we had that 7 hour nap during the afternoon. (site maintenance) Waaaaauuuuuuuup bip bip beep dip dop blip doop. Screeeeeeeeeuuuuuuwwwwww! Blip. [What I haven't mentioned yet is that shortly after my discussion with Hugar about the value of voting for quiet people versus active players, he suggested to me that we try to protect a particular player who had been outspoken to that point and appeared to be a good templie. The way it was phrased struck me as a Sith subversive, trying to find out my role or any information I might have about other people's power roles. Now it appears that Hugar hasn't suggested that just to me, but has also suggested the same idea to another member of the temple. Is he trying to find power roles so early, with no reason for us to trust him? Is he trying to distract a protector from his intended target? If you look at his comments to this point, none of them have been all that helpful, and there's very little of substance in terms of commenting on what's been happening either. It's mostly inane observations and what looks like waiting to see how things fall out before committing. FoS: Hugar Ssiht Hugar, please explain yourself.] I did contact you and several others, among those the people who I thought needed protection. I didn't ask for your role and I wasn't trying to find out about other peoples roles.I was just pointing out that it might be a wise idea to protect those people. By sending such a message to a few people I hoped my message would reach the protector eventually. I did this because I don't want to loose the most valuable members of this group in the beginning of the game. I can see how this could come across as a scum move to make sure their target isn't protected. That's not my motive, I was just trying to help.
Darth Nihilus Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 I don't think I full understand what you mean. It is beyond obvious that Windu is scum, at least logic would suggest so. I don't think he would be a Jester, since he would have no reason to involve C-3PO, I think. The reason for that is: 1: he is genuine, and C-3PO is really the Godfather, or 2: he is lying to get a townie with him in his fall. Or the extremely unlikely 3: He is trying to use backwards psychology to make us think C-3PO is town, because it is him that accused him. As I said, I am leaning towards option 2. But nevertheless, it should be tested, and if the Godfather in this game follows traditional rules (Godfather has no nightaction) it will be hard for us to confirm or deny it. Actually, if the game follows the traditional rules of mafia, then the Godfather will have the kill action (Or at least, that's how it's been in most games I've played in and read watched on holovids.) As I said, it's a long shot but he it could be in his win condition to get lynched. Unfortunately, as I also said, there's no way to tell until Tomorrow.
TheBoyWonder Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 As Windu is nearly confirmed lynch, we should tonight focus on clearing townies, allowing us to move forward tomorrow and the days to come.
Scubacarrot Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 As Windu is nearly confirmed lynch, we should tonight focus on clearing townies, allowing us to move forward tomorrow and the days to come. Uh, how about testing the claim Windu made? If, what I hope, Miss Secura is right and the Godfather indeed and indeed has the killing action, it should be possible. And the rest of your statement is obvious, isn't it?
swils Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 I listened to LordMaster Windu's claim again, and realized why people were talking about usurping this or that. I missed that little detail the first time through, and (assuming that there are a few ounces of truth in what he has said) that just about nulls my previous thoughts of not just lynching him forthright. So, before I, like many others, head off to meditate and rest, I shall Vote: Mace Windu (Nightshroud99)
ADHO15 Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 Wow, I was right! Thank you for confirming my suspicions, Master Windu! Vote: Mace Windu (Nightshroud99) I am so stupid. Forgot that. But, there are other ways of investigating. I.E trackers, watchers and Role Cops. This is true. All night actions should be focused, I feel, towards C-3PO and Nahdar Vebb tonight. Like Jedi Kelens said, the droid will probably have protection tonight, if he is the Godfather, and he is still a valuable contributor during the day, so the vigilante should not waste their kill there. If you think I was overreacting about Nahdar's connection to Windu, then fair enough, but I outlined all my points a few hours ago, and if people agree, we should keep a very close eye on my old Padawan. and if the Godfather in this game follows traditional rules (Godfather has no nightaction) it will be hard for us to confirm or deny it. If this is true, we do not really have anything to fear from Threepio. We can keep him alive to help the Jedi, and then kill him when we run out of suspects. If he gives up can confesses in the meantime, like Master Windu, then great! So blockers, investigators and vigilantes, you know who we've outlined as suspects today, so it is up to you to make a judgement call and decide where to direct your actions. Protectors, you have seen who has been valuable in today's discussion and I urge you to protect them (I am not including myself there).
Fred Daniel Yam Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 Ok, it seems that there is nothing left to be said from Windu so: Vote: Mace Windu (Nightshroud99)
TheBoyWonder Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 Vos, that was your third post. Care to join the discussion about Threepio, or voice your suspicions?
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