MacK Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 I agree. It might be time for some conversations in private. Of course that poses its own set of dangers. At this stage in "life" it is unlikely that anyone can truly trust anyone . But any discussion would be good discussion.
Scubacarrot Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 Wow, hold on a second, and let's just call things as they are: Corobb, you are basically flat-out asking investigators to contact you? Yeah, I'm sure that is not scummy at all.
Flipz Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 Wow, hold on a second, and let's just call things as they are: Corobb, you are basically flat-out asking investigators to contact you? Yeah, I'm sure that is not scummy at all. "No, I am asking them to investigate me and then contact me. There's a world of difference."
Darth Nihilus Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 No, not on Day One. If we decided to set up a tie (nevermind how stupid it would be to do that or the technical problems that arise if you try to do that in a situation that doesn't require a majority vote, as you point out), the Scum wouldn't break it because to do so would cause all the suspicion to fall on them if the lynched being turned out to be Town the next Day. It's Day One; the Scum won't gain much by getting rid of just one Townie. (which is not to say that they wouldn't love to do so, but it doesn't help them that much at this point if they have to risk sacrificing one of their own to do it) They'll know to just leave us alone and laugh at our inaction and confusion. My point exactly. No need to correct something that already is logical, droid, though your elaboration on my otherwise crude point is welcome. So quick to jump on me, you're lucky I don't cut off your strange little pigtails right here, Aayla, and see whose side you're on. At least that'd get us somewhere. Now, I may be mistaken, and if I am, then I will retract my previous comment. However, I do believe I noted that, if we were to pursue that course of action, we should do so shy of a majority-split, so that, even with a tie, no one would have reached a clear majority-vote. Although, re-reading it now, I am confused by the existence of both a requirement of a majority vote, and simply "the one with the most votes", as the two seem to conflict. And I could make your face symmetrical with another scar, though that would hardly help the situation. Violence will get us nowhere fast. I do agree with your second point, though. D'oh, you're right, poorly written example. Change the numbers to 11-11-2, with the remaining vote being the supposed investigator, and two others, or whatever combination such that the illustrated point becomes: Whoever votes and tips the scales will likely be held accountable for their actions come tomorrow, either by the betrayed Order or weakened Sith, and it would be very difficult to present the results of a mid-day investigation today without marking yourself to the Sith, as it is. Yes, but in the case of a tie this early (Day 2-3, I should think), the investigator, if there is one, would be forced to break the tie, if only to prevent a Scum from surviving another night to kill/block/role cop/other action the Town. I do admit that your points hold a smidget of sense, but only on certain occasions. You still have much to learn. "I too read that story in the Archives, it is a happy fantasy but one I doubt we will see repeated, unfortunately." "And indeed, perhaps I am jumping to conclusions, but if you recall my history, I have always been prone to doing such. I learned from the best. *cough*Hinckley*cough* " "So, has anyone else observed any suspicious behavior today? I urge you, even if you have no specific suspicion, to step forth and make comment upon our dillemma. Any and all behavior is vital information, and until tomorrow will be our ONLY means of discerning the identities of the Sith scum." This seems to be a bit premature, considering the day is young yet and there has not been much chance to observe behavior. "Click chirpitychirp tweet, tweet click. Clickity tweet tweet chirp, screech screech click." (I do not have any concrete suspicions as of yet, but I shall leap into the discussion so others may observe my behavior. The ones I am going to keep an eye on to see if they do deserve the Finger of Suspicion and a possible vote are, at the moment, our resident Chosen One for his odd talk of ties and investigators and implying that giving the Sith a free night to kill another would be a good idea, and Master Corobb for his metagaming. As I have previously stated, Fear lead to anger. Anger leads to passion. Passion leads to jealousy. Jealousy leads to nurturing. Nurturing leads to weakness. Weakness leads to humility. Humility leads to injustice. Injustice leads to heroism. Heroism leads to pride. Pride leads to patriotism. Patriotism leads to totalitarianism. Totalitarianism leads to power. Power leads to authority. Authority leads to Appeal to Authority. Appeal to Authority leads to metagaming. And metagaming leads to SUFFERING! I have also been reminded that suffering is occasionally typed as "suffrage", which seems similar but is actually the entirely unrelated concept of equal voting rights for all, which leads to voting, which, depending on the situation, leads to a presidential election or the formation of a lynch mob.) In other words, "I agree with everyone else, and, look, I'm going to stick on a lot of stuff that doesn't help so that it looks like I have made a long statement, but half of my statement does really do anything to help you, and the last sentence is even off-topic." But I guess you did say something regarding your suspicions. I agree with the droid. This seems rather pointless, and somewhat like something I watched on the HoloNet entitled "Bedtime Story", where the person who said something similar was lynched Day one for being completely backwards and unhelpful. I still will keep my eye on you, but I am inclined to believe you are simply inexperienced.
Flipz Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 "All talk about setting up ties is pointless, as we already know that in case of a tie the first person to reach the total will be lynched. To be frank, there are VERY few circumstances in which a no-lynch would be helpful to anyone other than the Scum, and the rules laid down for us acknowledge that by making it virtually impossible." This seems to be a bit premature, considering the day is young yet and there has not been much chance to observe behavior. "If no one speaks, there will be no behavior to be analyzed. We need to talk as much as we can, so that the Sith are drawn into saying things they will later regret."
swils Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 And I could make your face symmetrical with another scar, though that would hardly help the situation. Violence will get us nowhere fast. But scars are manly! Yes, but in the case of a tie this early (Day 2-3, I should think), the investigator, if there is one, would be forced to break the tie, if only to prevent a Scum from surviving another night to kill/block/role cop/other action the Town. I do admit that your points hold a smidget of sense, but only on certain occasions. You still have much to learn. The original suggestion, and my amendments thereupon, pertained only to this first day. Regardless, it is a null point as I have already admitted my error. I agree with the droid. This seems rather pointless, and somewhat like something I watched on the HoloNet entitled "Bedtime Story", where the person who said something similar was lynched Day one for being completely backwards and unhelpful. I still will keep my eye on you, but I am inclined to believe you are simply inexperienced. With everyone so caught up in recalling events from old HoloVids, I fear we will miss that which is happening before our eyes. Come now, surely some of the rest of you have thoughts or opinions about what has transpired thus far? My padawan's poor suggestion and my own mistake in elaborating upon the former? Master Corobb's inquisitive and metagamey nature? How about some of the reactions and replies to the aforementioned, Aayla's haste to throw an accusation out? Master Moudama has thrown around lots of clicks and clacks, but how much of it was useful? Or, perhaps we could look to those who have spoken up, yet neglected to comment on anything that has transpired thus far? Or how about myself again, for laying out names so early on? Silence will not save our Order. Speak your minds!
Brickdoctor Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 Generally a commander would use day 1 to make stratagies and go over what people have been saying to deduce who's the infiltrators instead of throwing wild accusations. Without the wild accusations, people are just doing the roleplaying and chatting, and there's very little true (non-RP) behavior to observe, let alone discuss or base a lynch on. The accusations may be wild, but they give us a starting point. Sorry I was going to be late for work had other dutys. What I was doing was looking through possibiltys bases on actions so I am sorry if I caused confusion. I know this makes me a suspect on people list but I assure you I was just trying to analyse and look at how it could be. We have no solid evidence that anyone is scum so we must look at all the options and broaden our minds You didn't analyse anything. You just listed every single possible scenario for Roron's my alignment/alignments. That looks like it could be helpful, but all you really did is list what we all already know to be a fact: that we don't know for sure what those alignments are.
fhomess Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 ... 3-cpo ... 3-CPO ... 3-CPO ... 3-CPO ... Bleep bip screeeeuuw!!!!! "I also am rather annoyed that, even after I spoke to everyone about the need to speak up, R2-D2 rolled into the room, stayed here silently for quite a while, and rolled right back out without saying anything. Speak up, people! We need you, R2-D2!" Bip bip! I had no idea that droids had sarcasm programmed into them. But your point is a good one. Beeooooop bip boop. "To be frank, there are VERY few circumstances in which a no-lynch would be helpful to anyone other than the Scum ..."If no one speaks, there will be no behavior to be analyzed. We need to talk as much as we can, so that the Sith are drawn into saying things they will later regret." Bing bip bip! Bip bip bip bop bip bip! BoooooooOOOOOooooop.
Brickdoctor Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 Bleep bip screeeeuuw!!!!! Bip bip! Beeooooop bip boop. Bing bip bip! Bip bip bip bop bip bip! BoooooooOOOOOooooop. I'm hoping that something in your role requires you to do nothing but talk like this, otherwise this might very well be the most useless statement I have ever seen in one of these situations.
Darth Nihilus Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 "All talk about setting up ties is pointless, as we already know that in case of a tie the first person to reach the total will be lynched. To be frank, there are VERY few circumstances in which a no-lynch would be helpful to anyone other than the Scum, and the rules laid down for us acknowledge that by making it virtually impossible." "If no one speaks, there will be no behavior to be analyzed. We need to talk as much as we can, so that the Sith are drawn into saying things they will later regret." I agree, Master, we must stop discussing this matter to death. Talking does us good, but asking about suspicions when there had hardly been anything said was a bit suspicious in itself, if I may say so. With everyone so caught up in recalling events from old HoloVids, I fear we will miss that which is happening before our eyes. Come now, surely some of the rest of you have thoughts or opinions about what has transpired thus far? My padawan's poor suggestion and my own mistake in elaborating upon the former? Master Corobb's inquisitive and metagamey nature? How about some of the reactions and replies to the aforementioned, Aayla's haste to throw an accusation out? Master Moudama has thrown around lots of clicks and clacks, but how much of it was useful? Or, perhaps we could look to those who have spoken up, yet neglected to comment on anything that has transpired thus far? Or how about myself again, for laying out names so early on? Silence will not save our Order. Speak your minds! Remembrance of the past helps us to make connections and predict the future. It has been proven time after time. Your padawan was mistaken; but you only supported her mistake and let it grow. You elaborated on it and made a similarly useless countersuggestion. Not exactly stellar mentoring. You also seem to be open to suspicion, which is very pro-Temply activity. It could also be a scum move, but we'll see how everyone behaves in the near future. At this point, it's all we can do.
badboytje88 Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 Exactly my thoughts Master Corobb, and what I was doing. None of us can sit idly by and expect the sith to root themselves out; usually Day 1 is an easy day for most scum. As many people have yet to speak up, I hope they do soon and try to add something to this discussion as a whole. And if I might add I am in no way hesitant to vote for people who aren't contributing, so by saying nothing at all you are not helping. I know that this is day 1 so most of us don't have much to say (including myself) but there are also those who haven't spoken up yet...
Flipz Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 "Very well, Anakin, this is what I have observed so far that appears mildly suspicious." "First, the short contributions that say nothing and are fairly unhelpful:" This is indeed very disturbing to have the shroud of the dark side among us. We must work together to find out who is a Sith. Oh my! That poor Jedi... How could this happen? Master Yoda, even your training with the other younglings couldn't have prepared me for something like this... This is interesting. Anakin seems defensive and people are suggesting a no lynch. We should Lynch, as not may help the Sith. And this is why I hate Coruscant. It seems that there has already been much debate on whether we should vote or not. At this point we have to take everything seriously and be certain as to who to vote. Any ideas anyone? Generally a commander would use day 1 to make stratagies and go over what people have been saying to deduce who's the infiltrators instead of throwing wild accusations. Why are you asking me? Why would you doubt Master Yoda's judgement. May I also remind you guys that discussing tactics in public might not be the smartest move since everyone can hear what you say. "This last one I feel I should respond to directly. Master Ssiht, some tactic should be discussed privately. Others should be discussed in public. Unless someone has specifically role-claimed to you, the bulk of our conversations should be public, so as to provide patterns of behavior to be analyzed later. This by no means precludes private contact, but we must be vocal about our suspicions at all times. Until a core of trusted Jedi, with knowledge of our available Night Actions can be formed, our planning involves no secrets that must be kept in silence." "And on that note:" I had no idea that droids had sarcasm programmed into them. But your point is a good one. We can't randomly base accusations on just anyone based on discussion here, if not suspicous. "I strongly disagree. Until tomorrow morning, when (I hope) our investigator can turn up a Sith, accusations based on discussion are all we have to go on. If we have a daytime investigator among us, then of course, that would be a different story, but as of yet no one has claimed to have ANY actions they may use during the day, so it is safer to assume we will have to wait until tomorrow before we have concrete information on anything." "Next up, we have a few statements that are seemingly helpful but are not:" I for one think that we all should vote for whomever we all view as the most suspicious when the time comes, and we should all think hard before we act, for each of us only has one chance to vote and cannot take it back. We all should try to find someone we can vote for because if we do not use our one power to lynch, then we let the scum have a free night to kill more of us. "Forgive my disrespectful tone, but: Well, duh! " "Click chirpitychirp tweet, tweet click. Clickity tweet tweet chirp, screech screech click." (I do not have any concrete suspicions as of yet, but I shall leap into the discussion so others may observe my behavior. The ones I am going to keep an eye on to see if they do deserve the Finger of Suspicion and a possible vote are, at the moment, our resident Chosen One for his odd talk of ties and investigators and implying that giving the Sith a free night to kill another would be a good idea, and Master Corobb for his metagaming. As I have previously stated, Fear lead to anger. Anger leads to passion. Passion leads to jealousy. Jealousy leads to nurturing. Nurturing leads to weakness. Weakness leads to humility. Humility leads to injustice. Injustice leads to heroism. Heroism leads to pride. Pride leads to patriotism. Patriotism leads to totalitarianism. Totalitarianism leads to power. Power leads to authority. Authority leads to Appeal to Authority. Appeal to Authority leads to metagaming. And metagaming leads to SUFFERING! I have also been reminded that suffering is occasionally typed as "suffrage", which seems similar but is actually the entirely unrelated concept of equal voting rights for all, which leads to voting, which, depending on the situation, leads to a presidential election or the formation of a lynch mob.) "The droid C-3PO already covered this, but it's saying much without saying anything at all. Something to keep in mind." Sorry I am late to contribute in the discussion of this dreadful charity, I have been giving it much thought though. We must be quick and stay on target. Master Corobb ha been very quick to ask us minor jedi to tell him about ourselves, which 3-cpo say that may benefit the town. 3-cpo understood and helped. It could be Master Corobb is a sith and 3-CPO is also a sith trying to get master Corobb out of a sticky situation. It could be Master Corobb is sith and 3-CPO though his intentions were good. And it could be how 3-CPO say it is, Corobb is trying to start a dissuasion. Please not most of the above are just theorys and I am not making any serious accusations yet but we need to have our options clear to us "C-3PO also brought up why this is suspicious, but it bears repeating. I will say that I find this more helpful than Master Modanma's statement, however." "And of course, C-3PO's defense of me is somewhat suspicious. Forgive my metagaming paranoia, but I recall a certain Arab lad in a Bedtime Story who buddied up to a character not unlike myself. He indeed turned out to be a Scum in the end, but managed to hide under the radar because he had buddied up to a known Good Guy. Something to keep in mind as the day progresses."
Brickdoctor Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 It would appear that I spoke too soon. R2 says that this is not required by his role, and that he's just doing it as roleplaying, which seems like a bunch of distractions and an unnecessary hassle to me, but... I figure since R2 never actually speaks, and C-3PO translates/responds to him, I'll let you be my voice. ... 3-cpo ... 3-CPO ... 3-CPO ... 3-CPO ... It's C-3PO, not 3-CPO! "I also am rather annoyed that, even after I spoke to everyone about the need to speak up, R2-D2 rolled into the room, stayed here silently for quite a while, and rolled right back out without saying anything. Speak up, people! We need you, R2-D2!" Hi there! I had no idea that droids had sarcasm programmed into them. But your point is a good one. Our need to deal with sentient beings brings out the worst in us sometimes. "To be frank, there are VERY few circumstances in which a no-lynch would be helpful to anyone other than the Scum ..."If no one speaks, there will be no behavior to be analyzed. We need to talk as much as we can, so that the Sith are drawn into saying things they will later regret." This. Very much this! And if I might add I am in no way hesitant to vote for people who aren't contributing, so by saying nothing at all you are not helping. I know that this is day 1 so most of us don't have much to say (including myself) but there are also those who haven't spoken up yet... Just for reference, if my records are correct, Barriss, Shaak Ti, Luminara, and Obi-Wan haven't spoken, while Artoo, Ithra, Ili, Plo, Kit, Eeth, and Saesee have only spoken once.
fhomess Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 And if I might add I am in no way hesitant to vote for people who aren't contributing, so by saying nothing at all you are not helping. I know that this is day 1 so most of us don't have much to say (including myself) but there are also those who haven't spoken up yet... Bloop bip booooop bip dop doop. Doooooop dip dop.
badboytje88 Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 Just for reference, if my records are correct, Barriss, Shaak Ti, Luminara, and Obi-Wan haven't spoken, while Artoo, Ithra, Ili, Plo, Kit, Eeth, and Saesee have only spoken once. Thanks, I was just about to look the names up.
Jedi master Brick Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 Bloop bip booooop bip dop doop. Doooooop dip dop. Please can we stop this, it is not helping but causing confusion which is ideal for scum
Brickdoctor Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 "And of course, C-3PO's defense of me is somewhat suspicious. Forgive my metagaming paranoia, but I recall a certain Arab lad in a Bedtime Story who buddied up to a character not unlike myself. He indeed turned out to be a Scum in the end, but managed to hide under the radar because he had buddied up to a known Good Guy. Something to keep in mind as the day progresses." This is something I've never understood in these situations: suspecting someone for arguing in defense of another suspect. I have no idea if you are actually innocent, but if I think the accusations against you are flawed, of course I'm going to argue against them.Or would you rather that we all just said "I agree!" to each other and blindly followed the first person to throw out an accusation?
Dannylonglegs Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 This seems rather pointless, and somewhat like something I watched on the HoloNet entitled "Bedtime Story", where the person who said something similar was lynched Day one for being completely backwards and unhelpful. I still will keep my eye on you, but I am inclined to believe you are simply inexperienced. It's not just "Bedtime Story. Many Holonet programs have an inexperienced, semi-illogical new player as their first cast-off.
swils Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 This is something I've never understood in these situations: suspecting someone for arguing in defense of another suspect. I have no idea if you are actually innocent, but if I think the accusations against you are flawed, of course I'm going to argue against them. You've displayed this attitude throughout the day, pointing out mistakes by parties on either side of a discussion, and I must say, I am glad that we have at least one sensible droid who approaches all situations with calm logic, devoid of emotions that may cloud his own judgment. It is good to have a level head in all discussions. Or would you rather that we all just said "I agree!" to each other and blindly followed the first person to throw out an accusation? I, for one, would very much not like to see us take this route.
Brickdoctor Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 It's not just "Bedtime Story. Many Holonet programs have an inexperienced, semi-illogical new player as their first cast-off. And for good reason. Those players are often confusing and distracting, contributing nothing, and are not at all beneficial to the Town. Lynching one in the absence of any better suspect means that we're either lynching a Scum or a Townie who's helping the Scum, and that's not a bad pair of possible outcomes. Especially on Day One, where we usually don't have any investigative results to help us in our decision.Oh, and: Next post... And if I might add I am in no way hesitant to vote for people who aren't contributing, so by saying nothing at all you are not helping. I know that this is day 1 so most of us don't have much to say (including myself) but there are also those who haven't spoken up yet... I'd much prefer to vote for someone who was not quiet. The quiet people don't have any evidence against them to typically base future votes off of. To me, voting for a quiet person is anti-Templie because there isn't future evidence to look back on. I expect the Sith to target someone quiet in the night, too.
Tamamono Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 Okay, first off, so sorry I wasn't here during this very heated conversation! I was taking a short rest. While I was resting, I had a stroke of genius - a way to get around the no-unvotes rule. Instead of voting like we normally would, we can simply put our votes in this format: FoS: ____ (____) much like Master Clickity-Chirp has done. Once the majority has agreed on a FoS, we can simply pile our votes on like we would if we could unvote. This lets potential PRs (power roles) claim before their fate is sealed. So, what does everyone think? Yes? No? Also, I think it would be wise for us to all be very liberal with our FoSes and accusations - if you suspect somebody, call them out. The more interactions we have between people, the better chances we'll have of catching the scum. Of course right now it is too early to be deciding our final course of action for today. I would like to clarify that the intention of my previous posts was only to help lay out all of our options onto the table. Voting definitely is our best weapon against the scum, and I will surely vote if I feel that the evidence is sufficient enough against that party. However voting for someone based off of little to no evidence just seems silly to me. From the stories I’ve read lynches made with little evidence tend to result in innocent blood being split, with most of these lynches resulting from band wagons. You said before that you wanted to not lynch, but here you're saying that voting is our best weapon against the scum, yet you don't want to use it? A lightsaber is also a very useful weapon, but you don't just stand there waiting for your opponent to fall on your blade when you're fighting, do you? If you've read the archives, then you'd know that this 'to vote or not to vote' issue has been discussed to death. Why bring it up? You know it'll get shot down, and even if it doesn't, you know we'll end up lynching anyway. Nobody ever goes through with those plans of not lynching. FoS: Ahsoka (MacK). This is interesting. Anakin seems defensive and people are suggesting a no lynch. We should Lynch, as not may help the Sith. Your lack of new discussion is disturbing. Sorry I am late to contribute in the discussion of this dreadful charity, I have been giving it much thought though. We must be quick and stay on target. Master Corobb ha been very quick to ask us minor jedi to tell him about ourselves, which 3-cpo say that may benefit the town. 3-cpo understood and helped. It could be Master Corobb is a sith and 3-CPO is also a sith trying to get master Corobb out of a sticky situation. It could be Master Corobb is sith and 3-CPO though his intentions were good. And it could be how 3-CPO say it is, Corobb is trying to start a dissuasion. Please not most of the above are just theorys and I am not making any serious accusations yet but we need to have our options clear to us Yes, this is definitely possible. Master Corobb's initial suggestions were pretty ludicrous, but 3PO has been actively siding with him and defending him. However, I get the feeling that 3PO is loyal because of how proactive he's been, so that negates the theory of him defending his scumbuddie (if my reads are correct, that is). You're quick to dismiss the accusations on yourself by changing the topic. But at the same time you seem to be trying a very pro-town game, so I am still not sure about you. This statement isn't very 'pro-town'. Yes, we understand that Master Corobb threw out some weird theories and started metagaming began acting paranoid, but you (and several others including Nahdar) continue to push him. Surely you know that scum wouldn't put their necks on the line so early? No, I think it's very likely that Master Corobb is town who was simply trying to help. I too have read through the archives, and I've found a very interesting trend. Time after time, one loyalist puts his/her neck on the line by being too radical, and then the scum jump on him/her like a pack of rabid dogs. I believe this is what's going on here. Plus, your statement is incredibly fencesitty. "Well, this thing about you isn't very town... But you could still be town. I don't know." Scum like to stay fencesitty so they can jump to whichever side is the most convenient at the moment. FoS: Mace Windu (Nightshroud99) Yes, I cast a second FoS. Actually, if nothing else comes up, I would love a Master Windu lynch today. He has been tripping my scumdar all day. "Normally, yes, our insights from the Force would be limited to the nighttime hours, but in private the topic of day-time insights came up, and so I thought I'd address it. In any case, that was not the main point of that statement, the point is, if any of us can sense the motives of the others, I welcome their scrutiny, so that we may work together to root out the Sith in the days to come." Let's wait and worry about night actions after we've sorted out today's lynch, please. Of course that poses its own set of dangers. At this stage in "life" it is unlikely that anyone can truly trust anyone . But any discussion would be good discussion. This statement strengthens my FoS on Ahsoka. Wow, hold on a second, and let's just call things as they are: Corobb, you are basically flat-out asking investigators to contact you? Yeah, I'm sure that is not scummy at all. Nahdar, I find it disturbing how you and Master Windu seem to have teamed up on Master Corobb. Like I said above, scum doesn't put their neck on the line this early - nevermind ask for investigators to contact them. Why are you pushing this? Yes, but in the case of a tie this early (Day 2-3, I should think), the investigator, if there is one, would be forced to break the tie, if only to prevent a Scum from surviving another night to kill/block/role cop/other action the Town. I do admit that your points hold a smidget of sense, but only on certain occasions. You still have much to learn. Discussing hypothetical situations helps no one.
MacK Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 Thank you for the list C-3PO, but I think we should give everyone some more time before we do start questioning their absences. The temple was being cleaned for about 7 hours not too long ago, they may not have had a chance to speak yet.
Flipz Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 This is something I've never understood in these situations: suspecting someone for arguing in defense of another suspect. I have no idea if you are actually innocent, but if I think the accusations against you are flawed, of course I'm going to argue against them. Or would you rather that we all just said "I agree!" to each other and blindly followed the first person to throw out an accusation? "Of course not, I'm simply calling things out when I see them. You seem loyal to the Jedi and the Republic thus far, but it is my duty to point out any and all potentially scummy behavior when I see it. I am sure you would do the same thing for any suspicious behavior I exhibit. "
Piranha Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 After observing the discussions that have transpired, I do have a couple of possible suspects that should be watched, but I also don't think that those who have been conversing a lot should be immediately drawn out as suspects, for example Master Roron Corobb questioned some of us minor Jedi regarding his familiarity with our character bios past missions but in reality that has absolutely no bearing on whether or not we are Sith and would seem like a poor attempt at meta gaming useless conversation. Nonetheless I will still answer his question, I am a Master Jedi. I also don't like how Ahsoka came up with the idea to not lynch anyone because that would only benefit the Sith. Anakin and his conversation with Aayla, both seem quick to be defensive. Euna Iladru and Foul Moudama seem to have said nothing of substance and perhaps even trying to distract us. R2-D2 is also a possible suspect, for the various useless transmissions.
Jedi master Brick Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 Thank you for the list C-3PO, but I think we should give everyone some more time before we do start questioning their absences. The temple was being cleaned for about 7 hours not too long ago, they may not have had a chance to speak yet. I fear the scum may use this to cover up inactivity
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