Zepher Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 Alright, fine, you're right. I'm dumb. Alright, let's look at her actual statement now, knowing that Jane was the Prince. Night 1 she blocks Jane. There happens to be know kill that night. Sounds like a random lucky break. However, what are the chances that Polly blocked the person who happens to attack her a number of days later? At that point... 1/11. Night 2 she doesn't block anyone, even with Ruben being lynched. She reasons that as Ruben was protected, she couldn't be sure that Jane was an assassin. But that doesn't hold water. By the end of the day, we were all pretty damn certain Ruben was scum. So him being protected does not stand as a reason to not block Jane. If the protection was not the reason for no kill, the blocking was. It would certainly be worth testing, right? If Jane was blocked two nights in a row, and there were no kills, well, you'd want to test that theory out asap, right? Night 3, she blocks Jane, and is unsuccessful. What are the chances of the scum blocking the blocker who is blocking their killer? 1/5. Possible... but still not likely. It is a pretty varied way to sell the story that Jane could be the killer. Night 1, Jane was blocked and there was no kill, the other two nights, for different reasons, Jane wasn't blocked and there was a kill. Very well told story... but I think there's too many lucky moments in it. Tell us, Polly, who'd you block last night?
Cecilie Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 I can't see how the evidence against Polly today is any better than it was yesterday . If anything, it seems pretty certain that she is the town blocker now. Think about it, there was no counter claim to the blocker yesterday. And we can be fairly certain now that Shanana was our investigator and that Meahon was our protector (he even told me so himself). They were both part of the Royal Court. It would not fit the pattern for any of the Royal Family to be the blocker, so it would have to be either the Jester, or a member of the Royal Guard. All of those were present yesterday when Polly claimed blocker, and could have counter claimed. Nobody did. And still, nobody has. Zerard on the other hand has been rubbing me the wrong way all day. Trying to get us to reveal our roles, which would serve the scum the King on a silver platter. And you can't even get your facts straight . So for now I will Vote: Zerard Wolfe (Zepher) unless something more substantial pops up. I really don't want to make a wrong decision today. We need to make a correct lynch, or we're going to lose for sure. Please, if anyone has any evidence at all, now's the time!
Bob Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 Vote: Polly Altamont (Pandora). Vote: Polly (Pandora) or: Vote: Zerard Wolfe (Zepher) Vote: Zerard Wolfe (Zepher) It's obvious by observation that either Charles and Zerard are the last two assassins or Cuthber and Clemence are. I know that I'm not an assassin and I can't speak for Polly (although by observation she would appear to be the prime candidate if you listen to Zerard). This is a serious breaking point for me in this game and it's based on who I feel is the most likely to be an assassin. It's between Zerard and Polly. I'll need to think about this, because if I do something wrong then it's likely to be all over.
CorneliusMurdock Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 Um, Bess, there are two assassins left. How can either of the sets of people you mention be scum as well as one of the lynch candidates? So, Zerard, now your accusation of Polly is based upon the fact that her claim fits the facts too well and that she's got some lucky/unlikely breaks? The truth is stranger than fiction and you're one odd duck.
Pandora Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 Let's get some things straight here, shall we? Yesterday, based on the weakest and most tenuous link of vague suspicion, hearsay and general lack of anything else to do, Jane tries to lynch me, and both Zerard and Charles jump at the chance to attempt to lynch me. You both suggested that, because it was such a ridiculously weak case and completely devoid of anything remotely related to evidence, you would consider another case. When all looked lost, I publish my entire actions for this ordeal, reveal that I am the town blocker (the only person who could prevent a scum kill, having lynched our protector), a claim that has gone entirely unopposed, and as a result I vote for the person who looks suspicious based on the only evidence I have. Look back, and re-read the glee with which you change your vote to Jane. I suspect that you had already investigated her and knew her to be the Prince, and so the opportunity for you to lynch her must have seemed like a dream for you. I wasn't about to vote for myself (remember that argument, Charles?) but you all chose to change your vote to Jane. And today you would be attempting to lynch Jane, our Prince, had you lynched me instead yesterday, after it was made clear that I am a Royalist. Meanwhile, I have a very interesting conversation with Fairon. Guess what Charles? Fairon tells me that Shanalon found your claim to her unbelievable, and she apparently found you yourself suspicious. Is that enough evidence for you, considering it's now you who has Shanalon's finger pointed at you? It was enough for you yesterday. Fair Fairon also raised his suspicions of Zerard, funnily enough. Polly claims blocker role that suddenly can't be used anymore I didn't claim I couldn't use it again. I told you all very clearly my action was three shot and that I had used two of those shots. I am the only one here who has made so much information public, and Zerard if you think I'm giving any more information to you and your scummy friend Charles here, you are mistaken. Others may feel free to approach me. I may or may not have used my block last night, however it appears someone out there trusted me enough to send me a little present last night, too. And no, I'm not about to tell you what it is. A few other reiterations, Barag wasn't blocked on night one, Shanalon investigated him and that is how she knew he was scum. I blocked Jane on night one. I stated quite plainly yesterday that I did not at any point claim to be any sort of protector to anyone, and I made that clear publicly with a few potatoes yesterday, too. There was no town block on night two because, as I made explicitly clear yesterday, I didn't block anyone on night two. Your attempts to confuse people are obvious, Zerard. One final point, at 4 to 2, if we lynch a Royalist (especially me) today, they will kill tonight leaving it 2 to 2 going into tomorrow. They will be unlynchable, and will essentially have won. Lynch an assassin today and they either have to kill me or risk being unsuccessful with their kill and also have to trust to chance to target the King. Either way, they've lost; they won't be able to kill the King, or kill me and then the King, at night, and we lynch the other one tomorrow. That's something I am willing to die for. So I Vote: Zerard Wolfe (Zepher). Damn it, damn it. Polly, you cross-eyed bitch, you're freaking dead today. I want the green bitch out today. P.S. Charles, while you may be trying your best to show how upset you are at lynching one of your targets, there's no need whatsoever to call me names.
Bob Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 Um, Bess, there are two assassins left. How can either of the sets of people you mention be scum as well as one of the lynch candidates? So, Zerard, now your accusation of Polly is based upon the fact that her claim fits the facts too well and that she's got some lucky/unlikely breaks? The truth is stranger than fiction and you're one odd duck. No-wait-sorry I'm dumb. Don't look at me, I'm stupid. It appears that the tide is against Zerard, so I'll: Vote: Zerard Wolfe (Zepher) I hate this. I feel conflicted and for some reason I feel sick. I hope I'm not wrong.
Zepher Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 Um, Bess, there are two assassins left. How can either of the sets of people you mention be scum as well as one of the lynch candidates? So, Zerard, now your accusation of Polly is based upon the fact that her claim fits the facts too well and that she's got some lucky/unlikely breaks? The truth is stranger than fiction and you're one odd duck. No. Her claim fits the lies that she fed us yesterday too well. She HAPPENED to block her ACCUSER on the ONE NIGHT with no kill, when there were 11 options of people to block? Doesn't that sound at all fishy? Doesn't that sound a little too perfect? And the reason she doesn't block anyone on Night Two doesn't make any sense. She claims that she thinks that there wasn't a kill NOT because of her block, but because Ruben, the target, was protected. But that doesn't make sense because we knew going into Night Two that Ruben was scum, and the protection on him was NOT the reason for no kill. So why wouldn't she block Jane again if she's the only blocker and blocking Jane was the thing that "prevented the kill" on Night One? Look at her story. There are nonsensical leaps everywhere. She was cornered and lied to save herself. But the holes in the story are apparent now. And don't you see why saying if you've blocked someone last night could be important. If you blocked someone and they step forward, we'll know your action claim to be true. "Luckily" for you, Jane is dead and your other attempt was unsuccessful, so no one can confirm your action to us. And final question: So, Zerard, now your accusation of Polly is based upon the fact that her claim fits the facts too well and that she's got some lucky/unlikely breaks? The truth is stranger than fiction and you're one odd duck. Who were they lucky for? Her? Do you realize that the evidence she presented saved her and lynched Jane, and that's it? It would be lucky if she by chance blocked Jane Night 1, and then we lynched Jane and she was the killer. But that's not what happened... her "lucky/unlikely" breaks didn't help anyone except herself... and her scum buddy.
Pandora Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 But that doesn't make sense because we knew going into Night Two that Ruben was scum, and the protection on him was NOT the reason for no kill. Actually we didn't. We were testing a theory to show whether or not Shanalon's claim was true. Only scum like you would have known that Ruben was scum going into night two. The case was tested and proved sound, but you knew that already, because you knew Ruben was scum.
CMP Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 Agh....Unvote: Polly Altamont (Pandora) in light of some new clues just now occurring to me. This is what I get for being so sure about a lynch target. And I had my response all typed up too.
Hinckley Posted May 18, 2012 Author Posted May 18, 2012 The remaining passengers of the HMS Brutal can't help but put on a little play to pass the time. "You came in this hunk of junk?" Bess Bulton asks, "You're braver than I thought." Charles Pleasance rolls his eyes. "Beep boop bop beep beep," Cuthber Neal Memlow says, "I am a Star Wars! Beep boop boop." ____________________ There are 22.5 hours left in the day ... or something like that. My posts have been late the last two days. Sorry.
Zepher Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 Well, since an appeal to logic seems to be failing me, I'll play the trump card. I am the King. Yes, yes, this is what a member of the scum would say, yata yata, go to town with that accusation. It is also, however, what the King would say. Now, I can only hope that there are action roles out there that can help protect me tonight. You've rather forced my hand. Need proof? Well, I can't really give it to you 100%. I can, however, prove that I'm not the killer. How do you know this? Luckily, unlike Polly, there is someone still alive who can confirm my action. During the first night, I invented and gifted Cuthber Neal Memlow with a one-shot blocking chain. He is the only person still alive I have gifted something to. Can you confirm this story, Cuthber? Please, please, let us move our votes off me and on to someone more productive. It doesn't have to be Polly if you all think that her story is true. That's who I think it is, but it doesn't have to be. We need to dig now and find ourselves an assassin.
Cecilie Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 Well, since an appeal to logic seems to be failing me, I'll play the trump card. I am the King. Yes, yes, this is what a member of the scum would say, yata yata, go to town with that accusation. It is also, however, what the King would say. Now, I can only hope that there are action roles out there that can help protect me tonight. You've rather forced my hand. That's a bold claim to make at this point. A bit too bold I would say. If you really are the King, you may have just lost us the game. You know we have lynched our protector, right? And you want to lynch the person most likely to be our town blocker, removing the last chance we have to chance on blocking the scum killer tonight. And the odds of blocking the right person aren't exactly 100% either... Need proof? Well, I can't really give it to you 100%. I can, however, prove that I'm not the killer. How do you know this? Luckily, unlike Polly, there is someone still alive who can confirm my action. During the first night, I invented and gifted Cuthber Neal Memlow with a one-shot blocking chain. He is the only person still alive I have gifted something to. Can you confirm this story, Cuthber? Proof? What kind of proof is that? Who says there can't be a scum inventor who can also share the scum kill? And you gifting your invention to a townie would be a smart move to make yourself seem trustworthy if you're scum. Please, please, let us move our votes off me and on to someone more productive. It doesn't have to be Polly if you all think that her story is true. That's who I think it is, but it doesn't have to be. We need to dig now and find ourselves an assassin. Sorry Zerard, but either you really are the King, and you're plain stupid and just lost us the game (there is no way you'll survive the night now), or you're scum who's just trying to save your own green skin . And who do you propose we vote for then? The blocker who may get lucky and save you tonight, or someone else at random?
Hinckley Posted May 18, 2012 Author Posted May 18, 2012 vote tally Zerard Wolfe (Zepher): 4 votes (CorneliusMurdock, Cecilie, Pandora, Bob) Polly Altamont (Pandora): 1 vote (Zepher)
CorneliusMurdock Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 I'm not sure what you expect at this point, Zerard. Clemence is right. If you are the King, we've lost tonight. I don't see how we could save you even if you were telling the truth. I did receive a chain the first night. I hadn't told anyone so either you did send it to me or the sender told you about it. And Clemence is right again, you could very well be a scum inventor. There's one thing that doesn't ring true to me. Most of us have agreed that our actions seem linked to our identities. An inventor doesn't seem like a very kingly ability. I'm inclined to believe that Zerard is playing us for time. There's one other reason for him to claim King if he's scum. The only way to disprove it is for the real king to come forward. And if the king were to fall for it, they'd know who to kill tonight. Zerard has been fishing for the king all day. Now it seems that he's willing to sacrifice his scummy self so that his final scum mate can get the win tonight. It's a brilliant plan. My vote's staying where it is.
CMP Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 Vote: Zerard Wolf (Zepher). It probably doesn't matter at this point, and depending on your allegiance I'm probably going to get lynched tomorrow, but what you're saying right now doesn't match up with anything we've discussed in private.
Zepher Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 You're really going to risk this? There is literally nothing I can do in that case. And don't worry, there won't be a tomorrow for you to get lynched during Charles. As for the inventor not sounding too Kingly, yes, I agree, which is why I was so confused with all this mumbo jumbo about our roles being tied to our action. You are all taking a huge risk and it will not pay off. It is my belief that Clemance and Cuthber are the two final assassins. Sorry Polly, it seems I was wrong about you. Please, Bess, Polly, Charles, I really think we need to turn this thing around. I can't ask another King to step up. You're right. But is this really how you want this game to end? Lynching your King? And there is a way for me to survive the night. It's not likely, but it's sure as hell more likely than surviving a lynch. Unvote: Polly (Pandora) Vote: Cuthber (CorneliusMurdock) Sorry if you happen to be a royal, Cuthber, but people won't lynch Polly, and I can't let you all lynch me, for both mine and your sake.
Zepher Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 It's hard to convince others when they aren't listening. There are only three people who understand the situation right now - the two assassins who are chuckling to themselves, and myself. We all know that I'm the real king. The other three people alive on this barge are running a terrible risk that will not pay off. I don't even get to wish you luck tomorrow, and pray that my death helps the town, because there won't be a tomorrow. Doesn't the lack of concern for my claim betray them? The fact that they refuse to consider the fact that I might be king. Only the assassins should have that conviction. Everyone else should back down and reassess the facts, because lynching the King would end the game for them. Please reconsider. This is my final plea.
CorneliusMurdock Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 It might make us reconsider if the claim was more than a last-ditch effort to save yourself and/or find the king. Based on the rest of your behavior today, it just doesn't add up. Then you turn around and accuse me without any evidence. Where's the "logic" in that?
Hinckley Posted May 19, 2012 Author Posted May 19, 2012 final vote tally Zerard Wolfe (Zepher): 5 votes (CorneliusMurdock, Cecilie, Pandora, Bob, CallMePieOrDie) Cuthber Neal Memlow (CorneliusMurdock): 1 vote (Zepher) ____________________ The day has now ended. With 5 votes, Zerard Wolfe (Zepher) will be lynched. A day conclusion will be posted shortly. Please get your Night Actions in ASAP. They are due 24 hours from this post. Late night actions will not be accepted.
Hinckley Posted May 19, 2012 Author Posted May 19, 2012 The remaining passengers of the HMS Brutal decide to lynch Zerard Wolfe (Zepher). "But I'm the King!" Zerard protests. "Only Scum would claim King to try to get the real King to come forward!" Cuthber Neal Memlow cries. "You're only asking for all of our info so you can make a clean sweep of the Royal Family!" Clemence chimes in, "You're shamefully transparent!" "You were the one who jumped so quickly to vote out our dear Prince!" Polly Altamont also chimes in, "All I did was present my evidence. Your vote turned frightfully quick! Was I taken off of your list as Royal Family when I claimed blocker? We've all been deceived!" "I've just remember something!" Charles cuts in, "It's some sort of clue I should've remembered earlier but have only remembered just now, but I won't be saying what it is!" "I'll take a ride on this bandwagon!" Bess Bulton adds cheerfully. "Fine, screw you guys." Zerard says as he stomps off onto the plank, "I'll walk my damn self onto the plank and get this megablocks over with." And as the sun sets, Zerard Wolfe stands on the silver plank...
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