Tamamono Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 Right, I forgot we had to take out all non-Jedi. Anyway, I'm glad the Sith ome first, but I wonder, can Sherlock use either shrink or investigation or does his night action do both at the same time? This sounds like he had to choose. I don't know, I'm just making silly assumptions. Don't mind me.
Dannylonglegs Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 Actually, if 3Po is scum, doesn't mean that Windu was right, and if he is town, there's still plenty of possibloe other lynchees for tomorrow. I came to think about the SK. Should the shrink be actively trying to heal them? Okay, they have killed two of us in a row, but we have definitely been dominating the Sith so far, so the SK would be stupid to work with them. They could try and help us by going for more scummy people which would be useful for both us and the SK, if we manage to kill the Sith faster. Yes, I'd also like to know about the win conditions of the Shrink. I believe, it would make sense, that he or she wins if he/she shrinks the SK, taking away his night kill, or making him a townie (and maybe the vigilante). In fact, that last idea makes some sense, and would explain this, " I have reason to believe there's no vig" stuff that's going on. It's possible that we can work with the neutral killer. It's not unheard of.
Brickdoctor Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 Well, thank you for your trust, but from your point of view, I must be scum. The fact that you're ignoring that means that you're not trying to find scum which means you are scum. Game, set, and match. Why must I think you're Scum? As far-fetched as the other possibilities might be, they're still possibilities. I don't think you're Scum, and I know I'm not Scum, so that leaves one of the other possibilities. Just because I'm not trying to prove that you're Scum doesn't mean that I'm not trying to find Scum. In fact, I started trying to find Scum at the very beginning of the Day, except you decided to assume that it was a distraction.
MacK Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 After all that has been said; it still seems most likely that either Coryn or C-3PO is a Sith. If Coryn is Sith I honestly doubt that he would try anything this bold, since he would have already lost two of his comrades, and this certainly could back-fire on him. Vote: C-3PO (Brickdoctor)
Scorpiox Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 Master Mundi makes a very good point, the logic behind the bandwagon against 3PO is deeply flawed. Surely anyway it is worth waiting anyway to investigate 3PO instead of lynch him straight away. If we are wrong on this lynch we lose a very helpful townie. It could be the case 3PO has been converted but it is worth checking first. I also think we should take a look at people like Plo Koon who have decided to turn up see there is a bandwagon forming and just voting not trying to look deeper into the claims. Yes, but we can't take that chance. If C-3PO is a Sith, which I think he is after night one, we can't risk him getting in deeper. We need to lynch him to be sure. The point is, Hugar shouldn't have known that he was investigated by a Shrink, and the fact that he did means that one of the three were leaking to the scum. C-3PO is too dangerous to keep alive. Indeed we should look at the unhelpful ones. I'm very suspicious of Master Tiin. He ignores all the accusations of C-3PO, doesn't give his opinion at all, then votes for Volviff. Why? The whole assualt on Volviff is a distraction to steer away from C-3PO, and the fact that Tiin blindly followed it without a word leads me to believe that he is one of C-3PO's Sith goons, trying to lead the lynch away. After all that has been said; it still seems most likely that either Coryn or C-3PO is a Sith. If Coryn is Sith I honestly doubt that he would try anything this bold, since he would have already lost two of his comrades, and this certainly could back-fire on him. Vote: C-3PO (Brickdoctor) Exactly, this plan is far too open and risky to orchestrate with two scum down. If Coryn were Sith, why would he sacrifice himself to take out one Jedi by leading a lynch on him. It would only lead to his downfall the next day, Sith can't affored those proportions.
Peanuts Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 Indeed we should look at the unhelpful ones. I'm very suspicious of Master Tiin. He ignores all the accusations of C-3PO, doesn't give his opinion at all, then votes for Volviff. Why? The whole assualt on Volviff is a distraction to steer away from C-3PO, and the fact that Tiin blindly followed it without a word leads me to believe that he is one of C-3PO's Sith goons, trying to lead the lynch away. I must disagree. I don't think the 'assault on Volviff Moon is a distraction'. Monn's strongest persecutor today was Vebb, who has a ppoint against Monn. I just think the case against 3PO is more urgent, but that doesn't mean that lynching Monn would be unjustified.
Darth Nihilus Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 Urgh, I can't figure out whether to spend my precious vote on C-3P0 or no! I do trust Coryn, though, for the most part. Hopefully we can keep up our Scum-hitting streak. I guess I just have to Vote: C-3P0 (Brckdoctor). God, I hope he's a Scum.
Dannylonglegs Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 I must disagree. I don't think the 'assault on Volviff Moon is a distraction'. Monn's strongest persecutor today was Vebb, who has a point against Monn. I just think the case against 3PO is more urgent, but that doesn't mean that lynching Monn would be unjustified. Well, it looks to me that they're on different sides if one's scum. C-3PO voted for him after all.
Peanuts Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 Well, it looks to me that they're on different sides if one's scum. C-3PO voted for him after all. It's not like scum never vote for scum, especially when one is likely to be lynched and the other is a main suspect as well.
Tamamono Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 It's not like scum never vote for scum, especially when one is likely to be lynched and the other is a main suspect as well. Exactly. I find it very likely that 3PO is performing a last-second bus to try and put Master Monn in the clear.
Dannylonglegs Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 It's not like scum never vote for scum, especially when one is likely to be lynched and the other is a main suspect as well. True, but the way it happened makes me believe it's either or. C-3PO voted him, followed instantly by Tiin, who gave no explanation. It looks like they were trying to start a bandwagon, but didn't play it well. I don't think the sith would try to start a bandwagon on one of their own, but I could be wrong. I just think it's one or the other. Exactly. I find it very likely that 3PO is performing a last-second bus to try and put Master Monn in the clear. Well, actually, that's reasonable.
Scubacarrot Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 Indeed we should look at the unhelpful ones. I'm very suspicious of Master Tiin. He ignores all the accusations of C-3PO, doesn't give his opinion at all, then votes for Volviff. Why? The whole assualt on Volviff is a distraction to steer away from C-3PO, and the fact that Tiin blindly followed it without a word leads me to believe that he is one of C-3PO's Sith goons, trying to lead the lynch away. It was me who today pointed out the slip-up (if you want to call it that) in Master Monn's statement, and I am one of the major advocates for lynching C-3PO, how is that reasoning working out for you.
Dannylonglegs Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 It was me who today pointed out the slip-up (if you want to call it that) in Master Monn's statement, and I am one of the major advocates for lynching C-3PO, how is that reasoning working out for you. I don't think he means to target you by this, I think he's talking about C-3PO and Tiin trying to turn the vote and attention off of C-3PO by accusing and voting for someone many of us think is scummy.
Scorpiox Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 It was me who today pointed out the slip-up (if you want to call it that) in Master Monn's statement, and I am one of the major advocates for lynching C-3PO, how is that reasoning working out for you. Huh. Shall I explain? You are one of the ones who accused Volviff, but my actuall point is that Tiin is blindly ignoring the scrutiny on C-3PO to vote for Volviff, when there are clearly more important matters. My reasoning, is that he is deliberatly not voting for C-3PO because he is a Sith too. He is desperatly trying to not lynch his buddy. Clear enough? I don't think he means to target you by this, I think he's talking about C-3PO and Tiin trying to turn the vote and attention off of C-3PO by accusing and voting for someone many of us think is scummy. You've hit the nail on the head. And excuse me, I'm quite clearly a she. How about you come over here and I can prove it to you.
Dannylonglegs Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 Huh. Shall I explain? You are one of the ones who accused Volviff, but my actuall point is that Tiin is blindly ignoring the scrutiny on C-3PO to vote for Volviff, when there are clearly more important matters. My reasoning, is that he is deliberatly not voting for C-3PO because he is a Sith too. He is desperatly trying to not lynch his buddy. Clear enough? You've hit the nail on the head. And excuse me, I'm quite clearly a she. How about you come over here and I can prove it to you. I was going to correct myself, but I heard you trying to speak up, so I hoped no-one would notice, but since you've offered....
Scubacarrot Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 I don't think he means to target you by this, I think he's talking about C-3PO and Tiin trying to turn the vote and attention off of C-3PO by accusing and voting for someone many of us think is scummy. Don't mean that he is going for me, but I'm saying the fact that he is stating that Monn's case is a distraction is not completely accurate . And Master Tiin: again, completely not contributing (as far as I can see). There are multiple people like that, it's really annoying, but because we keep having leads, dealing with the "under the radar" people is hard, and not priority. I hope they can see what they are doing is unhelpful in every respect, and if they are town, detrimental. I hope future hosts for games will consider their level of participation, when choosing players. Ah, I of course, also mean She.
JackJonespaw Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 C-3PO, the case against you is possibly stronger than the case against me. Coryn has been trustworthy on the last few days, and I think that he is a Jedi. This could all be a Sith plot of Coryn's, but there is only one way to find out. Vote: C-3PO (Brickdoctor)
Jedi master Brick Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 Thought I don't think 3PO is the godfather I do get a feeling he has been converted, since logic gives us no better option I have no real choice but to Vote: C 3PO (Brickdocter)
Palathadric Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 Yes, but we can't take that chance. If C-3PO is a Sith, which I think he is after night one, we can't risk him getting in deeper. We need to lynch him to be sure. The point is, Hugar shouldn't have known that he was investigated by a Shrink, and the fact that he did means that one of the three were leaking to the scum. C-3PO is too dangerous to keep alive. Indeed we should look at the unhelpful ones. I'm very suspicious of Master Tiin. He ignores all the accusations of C-3PO, doesn't give his opinion at all, then votes for Volviff. Why? The whole assualt on Volviff is a distraction to steer away from C-3PO, and the fact that Tiin blindly followed it without a word leads me to believe that he is one of C-3PO's Sith goons, trying to lead the lynch away. Exactly, this plan is far too open and risky to orchestrate with two scum down. If Coryn were Sith, why would he sacrifice himself to take out one Jedi by leading a lynch on him. It would only lead to his downfall the next day, Sith can't affored those proportions. Pardon me, but as far as I can tell there is absolutely no risk in keeping C-3PO alive. What's the big deal? We should be hunting down the scummiest person and that has got to be Voolvif Monn. C-3PO has at least defended himself decently. If both C-3PO and Voolvif are scum what is the difference if we keep one or the other alive, seriously? You seem to think that if we keep C-3PO alive Coryn will be trusting him as much as he has so far and sharing all his information with him. That is ridiculous! If they are both scum I doubt there is anything C-3PO knows that Monn doesn't. Surely he would share all information with him, right? Right? Either that or he's stupid, and I don't think he is. You also seem to be completely ignoring the possibility that both Coryn and C-3PO could possibly be town. Vote: Voolvif Monn (JackJonespaw) Although I don't see this doing much, it's purely symbolic. Besides, I'm Obi-Wan Kenobi.
ADHO15 Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 Alright, I'm not as confident about today's vote as the previous two, but I think I'll have to go with the majority and... Vote: C-3PO (Brickdoctor) The most likely explanation is that you are Scum, whether converted recently or somewhat protected by Windu's bluffing on Day One, and are responsible for the clues given to us by Hugar. You gave a decent defence, and I expected nothing less than that from you, but I think lynching you is the right thing to do today.
Palathadric Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 Come on, you last few fellows who haven't voted yet. Your votes mean nothing anyway. Get them on here, so we can move forward.
fhomess Posted May 20, 2012 Posted May 20, 2012 Dip ba deep blip bip beep beyooop. [some are saying that the case against C-3PO is severely flawed. I think it's got some holes in it, but I think the chances of those things being true aren't any more likely than them being untrue. I don't think the case against anyone else is as strong yet. Vote: C-3PO (Brickdoctor)]
Masked Builder Posted May 20, 2012 Author Posted May 20, 2012 Vote Tally: C-3PO (Brickdoctor) 16 Votes - Macoco, Tamamono, Kadabra, Peanuts, Dannylonglegs, Scorpiox, Scubacarrot, TheBoyWonder, VolcanicPanik, Flare, MacK, Darth Nihilus, JackJonespaw, Jedi master Brick, ADHO15, fhomess Voolvif Moon (JackJonespaw) 3 Votes - Brickdoctor, Zakura, palathadric Still to Vote: Sisco
Sisco Posted May 20, 2012 Posted May 20, 2012 I did say in the sign-ups that May 18-20th would be the days I couldn't be here, sorry guys. After reviewing the evidence, I think it's clear who to vote for. Vote: C-3P0/Brickdoctor
Dannylonglegs Posted May 20, 2012 Posted May 20, 2012 Vote Tally: C-3PO (Brickdoctor) 16 Votes - Macoco, Tamamono, Kadabra, Peanuts, Dannylonglegs, Scorpiox, Scubacarrot, TheBoyWonder, VolcanicPanik, Flare, MacK, Darth Nihilus, JackJonespaw, Jedi master Brick, ADHO15, fhomess Voolvif Moon (JackJonespaw) 3 Votes - Brickdoctor, Zakura, palathadric Still to Vote: Sisco After reviewing the evidence, I think it's clear who to vote for. Vote: C-3P0/Brickdoctor So I guess everybody's voted. Any last words before the night starts?/ Any last words in general C-3PO?
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