JackJonespaw Posted May 23, 2012 Posted May 23, 2012 Ah, I must have dozed off for a long time after meditating. It seems like Euna has basically given up all defense after we accused her of scum. (Maybe it was a feeling on someone, but when a person just gives up like that, that's pretty weak.) I won't vote on her yet, but I will FoS: Euna (Jedi Master Brick).
Dannylonglegs Posted May 23, 2012 Posted May 23, 2012 Ok vote me off then, I am fine with it. It will prove Coryn is not always right about who to lynch and that some of you need to think for yourselves. Good luck catching the remaining sith tommorow. Note: This is not a defense becasue I can't defend myself. I will also Vote:Voolvif Monn(JackJonespaw) as to me his behaviour has not been any better than mine Well, I'm glad you're fine with it, that's awful kind of you to give us all permission to vote you off, but I'm not fine with it. There's still plenty of time to defend yourself and there's by no means a consensus on what to do yet. Why are you giving up!? It's like your asking to die! You've already told us to kill you. You would be able to defend yourself if you thought it was worth it I think. Chirp whistle whistle chirp chirp? (I believe the plan is to Vote: Euna (Jedi Master Brick), is it not?) Yes, that's the plan at the moment, but plans change. You really need to hold your horses buck-o. You seem to vote early every-time. That's what the Fos: Cheesecake(Baloney) system is for. There are more Jedi than Sith, so the statistical likelihood of the SK killing a Jedi are higher than the odds of him/her killing a Sith. All three of the SK's victims so far have been under-the-radar types who wouldn't be missed, and that's usually where SKs like to kill. HOWEVER, this time the droid showed up in the room with the ARF trooper (that's what it is, right? ) and was wielding a blaster as well. This leads me to believe that the SK could very well be working with the Sith now. I still don't think that the force would let the Sith get 2 kills. That would be the opposite of bringing balance to the force!
Piranha Posted May 23, 2012 Posted May 23, 2012 Ok vote me off then, I am fine with it. It will prove Coryn is not always right about who to lynch and that some of you need to think for yourselves. Good luck catcking the remaing sith tommorow. Note: This is not a defense becasue I can't defend myself. I will also Vote:Voolvif Monn(JackJonespaw) as to me his behaviour has not been any better than mine Is this the only thing you have to say? Didn't you learn that it is possible to successfully defend yourself like Ahsoka did on Day 1? We were able to get a Sith lynch after talking it out. So, you are not being town at all, in fact that is the opposite of town, scum. It seems awfully similar to the last few Sith's defenses, few direct replies to anyone, usually generalized, then apparently claiming town and that we will learn something or whatever. There are more Jedi than Sith, so the statistical likelihood of the SK killing a Jedi are higher than the odds of him/her killing a Sith. All three of the SK's victims so far have been under-the-radar types who wouldn't be missed, and that's usually where SKs like to kill. HOWEVER, this time the droid showed up in the room with the ARF trooper (that's what it is, right? ) and was wielding a blaster as well. This leads me to believe that the SK could very well be working with the Sith now. That is one thing that worries me, the weapon change from a Vibro sword to a blaster pistol. That, and showing up in the same scene with the ARF. Now that could be just a coincidence, but it doesn't explain the weapon change.
fhomess Posted May 23, 2012 Posted May 23, 2012 Blip beep. [Ok, we're not really getting anywhere today from a discussion standpoint, so I'll throw some more thoughts out there. We had the 3 C's (now just 1), but here are the 3 Q&U's (quiet and unhelpfuls). Blech, that's not catchy at all, is it? Droids are no good at this! FoS: Euna Iladru (Jedi master Brick - I think I already did this, but why not do it again! No defense has come forward. No effort. Just odd. Scum waiting to die. I believe that lynching Euna will actually reveal more than just a simple voting out of a quiet and unhelpful person. Before eventually casting a middle of the pack vote for Mace Windu on day 1, Euna attacked Foul Moudama for being so hasty to vote for Ahsoka Tano. This was strange considering Moudama voted second, after Ili Seosty, whose hasty vote came with less prior clarification of motive. I will vote for Euna later if nothing comes up to change my mind. I'm now fairly convinced that she has no desire to work together with the rest of us in the temple anyway. FoS: Ili Seosty (Sisco) - Ili has been tripping everyone's scumdar, but by being so absent hasn't warranted any haste in attacking with votes. I believe that if Euna is sith, then Ili is, too. Ili, you said you'd participate more previously... where have you been? Fos: Voolvif Monn (JackJonsepaw) - There's still the outstanding issue of Monn, who has looked scummy to someone every day so far. He's yet to garner any serious votes, but has a vote for each day. I'm also curious what people think of the spat between Kit Fisto and Nahdar Vebb. It seems to have died down now, but was pretty full bore near the end of day 3 for a little bit. I think many of us came away with the impression that they were just two zealous templies trying to get to the bottom of things, but I can't shake the feeling that one of them isn't a templie. Neither of tham has struck me as Sith, though, so perhaps one of them is the SK? We made good progress the first few days, and today has felt a bit like we've lost momentum. Maybe lynching Euna will change that again, but better to be active than simply to hope.]
Dannylonglegs Posted May 24, 2012 Posted May 24, 2012 FoS: Euna Iladru (Jedi master Brick - I think I already did this, but why not do it again! No defense has come forward. No effort. Just odd. Scum waiting to die. I believe that lynching Euna will actually reveal more than just a simple voting out of a quiet and unhelpful person. Before eventually casting a middle of the pack vote for Mace Windu on day 1, Euna attacked Foul Moudama for being so hasty to vote for Ahsoka Tano. This was strange considering Moudama voted second, after Ili Seosty, whose hasty vote came with less prior clarification of motive. I will vote for Euna later if nothing comes up to change my mind. I'm now fairly convinced that she has no desire to work together with the rest of us in the temple anyway. Yeah, it's really not a good strategy if she wants to live. Interesting connection you made between the two, Euna and lli. She's been crazy non-participatory, which has let her fly under the radar. Of course, she could just be uninterested, or busy, or maybe she "doesn't have anything to say." I'm more on the edge with her, and she may end up being a non-participatory town, but she is worthy of attention. I too intend to vote for Euna, but I voted too early yesterday and feared I made a mistake, so I won't do that again. FoS: Ili Seosty (Sisco) - Ili has been tripping everyone's scumdar, but by being so absent hasn't warranted any haste in attacking with votes. I believe that if Euna is sith, then Ili is, too. Ili, you said you'd participate more previously... where have you been? Fos: Voolvif Monn (JackJonsepaw) - There's still the outstanding issue of Monn, who has looked scummy to someone every day so far. He's yet to garner any serious votes, but has a vote for each day. At the moment, I'm not sure what to think of him. I've got two main lines of thought on him: If C-3PO and Euna are scum, then it seems odd that they would both target him, and he might be Town. Again, if C-3PO and Euna are scum, they might just, as Coryn, I believe, suggested yesterday, be trying to clear him by suspecting him (because nobody trusts a scum!) I don't really know what to think about him if both C-3Pops and Euna are Town, because I don't think they are, but if they are, he would seem very scummy to me. He's on my list of suspects too. I'm also curious what people think of the spat between Kit Fisto and Nahdar Vebb. It seems to have died down now, but was pretty full bore near the end of day 3 for a little bit. I think many of us came away with the impression that they were just two zealous templies trying to get to the bottom of things, but I can't shake the feeling that one of them isn't a templie. Neither of tham has struck me as Sith, though, so perhaps one of them is the SK? We made good progress the first few days, and today has felt a bit like we've lost momentum. Maybe lynching Euna will change that again, but better to be active than simply to hope. I'm not sure about that. I think the scummyness you interpreted from one or the other may just stem from Vebb's abrasive personality. It's hard to reply to someone who's "annoyed" and who can only see one way. Vebb's arguments have mostly seemed logical, and the tenacity with which he supports them make me inclined to think he's townie though.
Jedi master Brick Posted May 24, 2012 Posted May 24, 2012 Ok, this is my defence. I defended 3PO because. Honestly failed to see the case against him, it was Coryn saying "Corobb said he thinks either me or 3PO is scum. That was just a hunch from Corobb. My insistence against master Vos was because he did fly under the radar and did not contribute, how was I meant to know if he was the cop? No one has gave me any infomation, I have been left in the dark on most things. I know this defence is not great but I hope you believe me when I say I am town.
Peanuts Posted May 24, 2012 Posted May 24, 2012 Ok, this is my defence. I defended 3PO because. Honestly failed to see the case against him, it was Coryn saying "Corobb said he thinks either me or 3PO is scum. That was just a hunch from Corobb. My insistence against master Vos was because he did fly under the radar and did not contribute, how was I meant to know if he was the cop? No one has gave me any infomation, I have been left in the dark on most things. I know this defence is not great but I hope you believe me when I say I am town. Well, only three people knew about the investigator, and obviously, that was too many. So no reason to feel left out. And about the case against C-3PO, it was more than just Corobb saying so. Haven't you read the play Coryn wrote? The case wasn't solid, but it was more than just a hunch.
TheBoyWonder Posted May 24, 2012 Posted May 24, 2012 Euna has not defended herself, like the Sith, behaving like the Sith, trying to turn it away from her like the Sith have. All seems very scummy. Let's hope she comes up sith....
Tamamono Posted May 24, 2012 Posted May 24, 2012 Ok, this is my defence. I defended 3PO because. Honestly failed to see the case against him, it was Coryn saying "Corobb said he thinks either me or 3PO is scum. That was just a hunch from Corobb. My insistence against master Vos was because he did fly under the radar and did not contribute, how was I meant to know if he was the cop? No one has gave me any infomation, I have been left in the dark on most things. I know this defence is not great but I hope you believe me when I say I am town. Did you even read the play I wrote? Due to PoE (Process of Elimination), it was either me or 3PO who was scum. It wasn't a 'hunch from Corobb'. Don't you understand why we voted for him? And then, when it looked bad for him, you too jumped on the bandwagon. If you didn't like the case against him, then why vote him? I see no reason to delay this any longer: Vote: Euna Iladru (Jedi master Brick)
fhomess Posted May 24, 2012 Posted May 24, 2012 Beeooop bip blip doooop. [i have tried to give Euna the benefit of the doubt, and tried to spur on some additional discussion while waiting for a solid response. Euna was just as reluctant in private to tell me anything as she's been here in public, so I'm convinced that Euna is the best candidate for today. Vote: Euna Iladru (Jedi master Brick)]
Dannylonglegs Posted May 24, 2012 Posted May 24, 2012 Euna has not defended herself, like the Sith, behaving like the Sith, trying to turn it away from her like the Sith have. All seems very scummy. Let's hope she comes up sith.... Please pay attention, even though it's a weak defence, she did finally come up with one. I gotta say, this is a very suspicious post which adds utterly nothing to the discussion at hand. Ok, this is my defence. I defended 3PO because. Honestly failed to see the case against him, it was Coryn saying "Corobb said he thinks either me or 3PO is scum. That was just a hunch from Corobb. My insistence against master Vos was because he did fly under the radar and did not contribute, how was I meant to know if he was the cop? No one has gave me any infomation, I have been left in the dark on most things. I know this defence is not great but I hope you believe me when I say I am town. Thanks for showing up in your defence. Finally. If you paid attention in the thread, you'd have heard Coryn explain his theory numerous times to me and others. Let's take a look at exactly what you said yesterday. Master Mundi makes a very good point, the logic behind the bandwagon against 3PO is deeply flawed. Surely anyway it is worth waiting anyway to investigate 3PO instead of lynch him straight away. If we are wrong on this lynch we lose a very helpful townie. It could be the case 3PO has been converted but it is worth checking first. I also think we should take a look at people like Plo Koon who have decided to turn up see there is a bandwagon forming and just voting not trying to look deeper into the claims. I believe at this point Coryn or someone else had already clarified the point I was questioning. Also: 1.) You suggest, rather vehemently, that we investigate him instead of Lynch him, when the scum know who the investigator is. 2.) You try to suggest other people for Lynching/suspicion, namely Plo here, and Saecy Tinn and Vos before this. Now, I will admitt, Plo's actions have been semi-scummy, but we all know what happened to Saecy... and Vos. Thought I don't think 3PO is the godfather I do get a feeling he has been converted, since logic gives us no better option I have no real choice but to Vote: C 3PO (Brickdocter) This is your very next post. You jump on the bandwagon that has formed now that it's a sure thing, but provide very little reason as to why, and it sounds like you're still not convinced. If you don't think he's scum, don't vote for him! Clearly you are just going along with what everyone else says to avoid suspicion.
Peanuts Posted May 24, 2012 Posted May 24, 2012 This is your very next post. You jump on the bandwagon that has formed now that it's a sure thing, but provide very little reason as to why, and it sounds like you're still not convinced. If you don't think he's scum, don't vote for him! Clearly you are just going along with what everyone else says to avoid suspicion. Yes, I think that post is especially important. Even though she voted at that point for C-3PO, today she showed us that she had no idea what the case against C-3PO was all about. That kind of inconsistent behavior is quite scummy.
Scorpiox Posted May 24, 2012 Posted May 24, 2012 Ok, this is my defence. I defended 3PO because. Honestly failed to see the case against him, it was Coryn saying "Corobb said he thinks either me or 3PO is scum. That was just a hunch from Corobb. My insistence against master Vos was because he did fly under the radar and did not contribute, how was I meant to know if he was the cop? No one has gave me any infomation, I have been left in the dark on most things. I know this defence is not great but I hope you believe me when I say I am town. You'll have to do better than that. You should read things before making a statement, yesterday Coryn clearly explained that it wasn't a 'hunch', as there was only the posibility that either C-3PO or him were Sith to have leaked to the other scummies. Your apparent inability to read anything and a reluctance to help on the basis 'that I have been left in the dark' pretty much to confirms to me of your Sith loyalties. If you really wanted to aid the Jedi, you would have honestly tried. You say you didn't see the case against C-3PO relentlessly, you say it wasn't strong enough, yet you still vote for him to try and blend in? Nice avoiding voting for your Sith partner until the last minute. I can't think who would be a likely Sith. Vote: Euna Iladru (Jedi master Brick) Wait! It's day four, but I still haven't done anything naughty with anyone's head-growths, besides chasing Aayla, anyone care to help me out here?
MacK Posted May 24, 2012 Posted May 24, 2012 Well I can't say that I'm all that impressed by Euna's defence. She basically confirms that she has absolutely no clue as to what has been happening throughout the temple. Even if she was to turns out to be a Jedi, I won’t miss her. Vote: Euna Iladru (Jedi master Brick)
ADHO15 Posted May 24, 2012 Posted May 24, 2012 Well I can't say that I'm all that impressed by Euna's defence. She basically confirms that she has absolutely no clue as to what has been happening throughout the temple. Even if she was to turns out to be a Jedi, I won’t miss her. My thoughts exactly! You really aren't behaving in a pro-Jedi way, Euna, and you definitely seem to be the best lynch choice today. I guess we will see how it turns out tomorrow. Vote: Euna Iladru (Jedi master Brick)
TheBoyWonder Posted May 24, 2012 Posted May 24, 2012 Vote: Euna Iladru (JediMasterBrick) for her scummy behavior, bad defense and total lack of understanding of yesterdays events.
Palathadric Posted May 24, 2012 Posted May 24, 2012 I vote: Euna Iladru (Jedi Master Brick) Need I explain why? I think not.
Dannylonglegs Posted May 24, 2012 Posted May 24, 2012 Well, I guess it is time to vote. Having heard her meager excuse for a defense, I really have no choice but to vote: Euna Iladru (Jedi Master Brick) This will help us decide the alignment of both C-3PO and subsequently, Coryn. That's not the only reason either. In addition to serving as an alignment test, she has been acting scummy from day one. Her voting records, and past behavior have convinced me that she is scum, and I'd be very surprised tomorrow if her allegiance was to the temple. If you need more evidence as to her scummyness, well, you really haven't been reading my previous posts, have you? She now has 9 votes, which is a majority.
Peanuts Posted May 24, 2012 Posted May 24, 2012 Well, according to Ki-Adi Mundi my vote won't change anything anymore, but I'll vote: Euna (Jedi Master Brick) anyway. I think I already stated why I think this is the best course of action, and she hasn't been of any use at all.
Piranha Posted May 24, 2012 Posted May 24, 2012 Sorry Euna, but your explanations have done nothing to convince me otherwise. You bus C-3PO and didn't even fully understand why you did? Vote: Euna Iladru (Jedi master Brick)
JackJonespaw Posted May 24, 2012 Posted May 24, 2012 I Vote: Euna Iladru (Jedi master Brick) for pretty obvious reasons. I think that the result, be she scum or Jedi, we'll still be glad to have her gone.
Masked Builder Posted May 25, 2012 Author Posted May 25, 2012 Vote Tally: Euna Iladru (Jedi Master Brick) 12 Votes - Kadabra, Tamamono, Fhomess, Scorpiox, MacK, ADHO15, TheBoyWonder, Palathadric, Dannylonglegs, Peanuts, Macoco, JackJonespaw Voolvif Monn (JackJonespaw) 1 Vote - Jedi Master Brick There are about 24 hours left in the day...
Sisco Posted May 25, 2012 Posted May 25, 2012 I don't think I really have to explain why. Vote: Euna Iladru (Jedi master Brick)
Dannylonglegs Posted May 25, 2012 Posted May 25, 2012 I don't think I really have to explain why. Vote: Euna Iladru (Jedi master Brick) You don't have to, but it would be nice if you have the time. Just so its clear that you actually do suspect her, and aren't just jumping on the bandwagon now that it's inevitable.
Sisco Posted May 25, 2012 Posted May 25, 2012 You don't have to, but it would be nice if you have the time. Just so its clear that you actually do suspect her, and aren't just jumping on the bandwagon now that it's inevitable. Alright. She folded way too quickly. When she started getting a little pressure on her, she snapped. She gave up very early in the day. I believe that a true towny would defend themselves to their dying breath. Her behavior just screams "okay, you got me".
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