Heroica Theatre

[Lind Whisperer]

He'd have to spend a loooooooong time on the Fields to get a MoG. It took me almost a year, and that was before they renovated the Fields.

He might be able to loan the Anniversary Medal to someone in exchange for them loaning him their MoG.

And no offense, but if your're going to do a space RPG, I know I wouldn't be overly fond of it being a continuation of Heroica. Heroica was Sandy's creation, and I think it should stay that way.

None taken - my original plan was for it to be a completely separate game*, just using the same system, but the other contributors were leaning towards it being a Heroica continuation**.

*In my version, there would have been one or two hints that they existed in the same universe, since Olegia is a planet in canon, but that was it.

**We didn't really have much of a plot besides "Heroica: Journey to the Stars" - we were more focused on how the system would be adapted than we were on what the story would be.

[Yzalirk]

If the games only going to last two more years, I doubt you'll even get to Level 40.

It's disappointing to hear if that's the case but hey, I'd rather make the best of the two years.

[K-Nut]

Will the game last for 2 more years, or just the main storyline?

Sandy just said 2 more years.

[Zepher]

Honestly, play the game whatever way you'll have most fun. I don't know why it matters to anyone else if you keep restarting characters. I can tell you from experience sticking with characters is more rewarding, but I think you should enjoy it however you want. It's really not like it affects anyone else directly.

[Lind Whisperer]

Honestly, play the game whatever way you'll have most fun. I don't know why it matters to anyone else if you keep restarting characters. I can tell you from experience sticking with characters is more rewarding, but I think you should enjoy it however you want. It's really not like it affects anyone else directly.

I think one of the primary issues was that he wanted to transfer all of his gear from Mhinak to the new character, which does affect the other players a little bit, at least in terms of overall game balance.

[Sandy]

Will the game last for 2 more years, or just the main storyline?

I'm not clairvoyant, that's just my estimation. This game will end when the main story is done, but all options are still up in the air for a sequel.

[Zepher]

Well, there's a rule against that, apparently, so no dice. But otherwise, I don't see the trouble. Hell, MDM gave a bunch of items to his secondary character when he made him and no one cried about it, even though that was absurdly over powered for a level 1.

I'm not saying we shouldn't say that Goliath should stick with a character. That is absolutely my advice. I think you'll enjoy the game more that way, Goliath. But if you want to stick with the game and start a new character after every quest... maybe that's what's fun for you!

[UsernameMDM]

MDM gave a bunch of items to his secondary character when he made him and no one cried about it, even though that was absurdly over powered for a level 1.

& That was Ok'd by Sandy. Part of the REWARD for sticking with it long enough to have a second PC (although I miscalculated actually getting a second PC).

My 'contention' (if you can call it that), is that he seems to be fickle and unable to commit to anything, and if he continues this he absolutely will not ever see Wolfgnag rep OR level 30. This game is about the long strategy, not instant success.

Edited August 23, 2015 by UsernameMDM

[Khorne]

& That was Ok'd by Sandy. Part of the REWARD for sticking with it long enough to have a second PC (although I miscalculated actually getting a second PC).

Seconded. Stick with the game and get rewarded. Getting loot with a character, killing it off because you're bored and passing his loot on to a new character, well, that's just stupid, I think .

I'm on Zepher with the "beginning anew". If that's what you like, just go ahead and do so! I was merely trying to help solve some of the issues you seemed to have with your current character, this being the Theatre topic and all. I'd try and stick with Mhinak, but that's just my opinion . We've all been there, I think, wanting to start over again. I've been there many times with Eric, yet I somehow always found a way to stick with him, even though I have been really close to ending him in favor of something else.

Edited August 23, 2015 by Khorne

[Lind Whisperer]

I'm not clairvoyant, that's just my estimation. This game will end when the main story is done, but all options are still up in the air for a sequel.

Well, there's a rule against that, apparently, so no dice. But otherwise, I don't see the trouble. Hell, MDM gave a bunch of items to his secondary character when he made him and no one cried about it, even though that was absurdly over powered for a level 1.

I believe Sandy said(In PM to Goliath), that if the other players were fine with him transferring the Medal to his new character he could transfer that, at least.

& That was Ok'd by Sandy. Part of the REWARD for sticking with it long enough to have a second PC (although I miscalculated actually getting a second PC).

My 'contention' (if you can call it that), is that he seems to be fickle and unable to commit to anything, and if he continues this he absolutely will not ever see Wolfgnag rep OR level 30. This game is about the long strategy, not instant success.

I've been talking with him via PM, and I think that part of the issue was with his first character, he didn't like the species*, and with the second, he didn't put enough thought into the class. I'm not saying he should be excused for that, character is a central part of this game...but I can understand where he's coming from, at least.

*I'm not calling it a different race, it's a different species.

[Sandy]

I believe Sandy said(In PM to Goliath), that if the other players were fine with him transferring the Medal to his new character he could transfer that, at least.

No. I said it wouldn't be fair, and he kept nagging me about it, so I asked him to ask the other players if they felt it would be unfair.

I have told Goliath what I think about his wishy-washy attitude towards his characters, but he's not really listening. There's not much else I can do about it.

[Yzalirk]

No. I said it wouldn't be fair, and he kept nagging me about it, so I asked him to ask the other players if they felt it would be unfair.

I have told Goliath what I think about his wishy-washy attitude towards his characters, but he's not really listening. There's not much else I can do about it.

I promise this will be my last character.

[Lind Whisperer]

I promise this will be my last character.

I don't think this is the best moment for a winking emoticon...

Just sayin'...

Edited August 23, 2015 by Lind Whisperer

[Pyrovisionary]

I don't think this is the best moment for a winking emoticon...

Just sayin'...

:laugh:

[Yzalirk]

Alright, I'll keep Mhinak. Hopefully I his happy-go-lucky personality changes somewhere along Quest #136 to a more hardened character. I took a look at the Advanced Classes and I do think becoming a Warden should be on my agenda but my only problem with it is that it seems like there aren't many artefacts suitable for Wardens that would give me some Defense.

[Waterbrick Down]

I promise this will be my last character.

Like Zepher said, I don't think there's any issue with you restarting your character, but there is with transferring over your equipment, even if you did end up with a good piece of loot from the lottery. Speaking from experience of killing a relatively new character off, I can understand if something just isn't working and you want to start again, but you shouldn't expect special treatment. We all abide by the same rules, generally for the good of the game as a whole.

Alright, I'll keep Mhinak. Hopefully I his happy-go-lucky personality changes somewhere along Quest #136 to a more hardened character. I took a look at the Advanced Classes and I do think becoming a Warden should be on my agenda but my only problem with it is that it seems like there aren't many artefacts suitable for Wardens that would give me some Defense.

If it's a play style issue, understand that Rangers are actually as powerful (damage wise, high DPR) and survivable (health wise, back row = HPx2) as Barbarians for the most part. If you feel you aren't getting that, than wait for the advanced classes and take something like Hunter or Warden or start anew. Warden't have plenty of artifacts available to them as they're can use any artifacts suitable to knights which are the kings of SP. If you're looking for specific artifacts that help the survivablity of Wardens you want to look for elemental and effect immunities, things that do damage when you take damage, and damage reducers or evaders.

[Lind Whisperer]

Alright, I'll keep Mhinak. Hopefully I his happy-go-lucky personality changes somewhere along Quest #136 to a more hardened character. I took a look at the Advanced Classes and I do think becoming a Warden should be on my agenda but my only problem with it is that it seems like there aren't many artefacts suitable for Wardens that would give me some Defense.

Shields. Get a good shield, with a handy benefit or immunity/absorption, and heft it up at the Marketplace or via a Mystic Knight.

[Yzalirk]

Like Zepher said, I don't think there's any issue with you restarting your character, but there is with transferring over your equipment, even if you did end up with a good piece of loot from the lottery. Speaking from experience of killing a relatively new character off, I can understand if something just isn't working and you want to start again, but you shouldn't expect special treatment. We all abide by the same rules, generally for the good of the game as a whole.

If it's a play style issue, understand that Rangers are actually as powerful (damage wise, high DPR) and survivable (health wise, back row = HPx2) as Barbarians for the most part. If you feel you aren't getting that, than wait for the advanced classes and take something like Hunter or Warden or start anew. Warden't have plenty of artifacts available to them as they're can use any artifacts suitable to knights which are the kings of SP. If you're looking for specific artifacts that help the survivablity of Wardens you want to look for elemental and effect immunities, things that do damage when you take damage, and damage reducers or evaders.

If I really can't transfer something over to my new character, then what's the point? I got the medal and I definitely don't want to lose it. That's why if I was actually able to transfer one thing, that would be the only thing I would transfer. But you're right, if everyone else has to abide by the rules, that means I do to.

So as long as an artefact says that it's suitable for a Knight, I could use it if I become a Warden because a Warden requires to be a base Knight as well as a Ranger?

Shields. Get a good shield, with a handy benefit or immunity/absorption, and heft it up at the Marketplace or via a Mystic Knight.

Alright.

[Lind Whisperer]

So as long as an artefact says that it's suitable for a Knight, I could use it if I become a Warden because a Warden requires to be a base Knight as well as a Ranger?

Yep!

[Waterbrick Down]

If I really can't transfer something over to my new character, then what's the point? I got the medal and I definitely don't want to lose it. That's why if I was actually able to transfer one thing, that would be the only thing I would transfer. But you're right, if everyone else has to abide by the rules, that means I do to.

So as long as an artefact says that it's suitable for a Knight, I could use it if I become a Warden because a Warden requires to be a base Knight as well as a Ranger?

Warden advanced class is available to either starting rangers or starting knights and can use artifacts and weapons suitable for either base class. Concerning your medal, honestly it's useful but it's not as powerful as some people make them out to be, once you hit the higher levels, 4 extra health or 4 extra damage aren't really that important. And starting over with a new character is the trade-off for the time you've invested in Mhinak thus far, you don't get to benefit from the time you've put into Mhinak and the exact character you want, none of us have before.

Edited August 23, 2015 by Waterbrick Down

[Yzalirk]

Yep!

I'm at least glad to know that.

Part of me is regretting this decision though, to have to wait.

[Lind Whisperer]

Warden advanced class is available to either starting rangers or starting knights and can use artifacts and weapons suitable for either base class. Concerning your medal, honestly it's useful but it's not as powerful as some people make them out to be, once you hit the higher levels, 4 extra health or 4 extra damage aren't really that important.

True - it really depends on the build. Having +4 to everything isn't necessarily a bad thing(not to mention that it'll hit at least +6 before the game ends), but it really depends on what you want your build to be. (Hoke's sort of the model Dragoon at the moment, and if he wants one for his Dragoon build, well, there are worse character builds to model oneself after.)

[Flipz]

Concerning your medal, honestly it's useful but it's not as powerful as some people make them out to be, once you hit the higher levels, 4 extra health or 4 extra damage aren't really that important. And starting over with a new character is the trade-off for the time you've invested in Mhinak thus far, you don't get to benefit from the time you've put into Mhinak and the exact character you want, none of us have before.

It's SP in the Accessory slot. That's actually kinda rare, and SP:4 is nothing to sneeze at, either.

Also, it's universally-applicable SP. I realize that's becoming more and more common now (hell, Atramor made it his entire build), but it's still not half bad.

[Palathadric]

The main benefit of the Anniversary Medal is that it's an accessory and there are no other accessories that I know of that offer such high SP, not to mention other great bonuses as well. If Medals of Glory is your thing, then that's great, but otherwise the Anniversary Medal is one of the best accessories, if not the best, in the game.

It's SP in the Accessory slot. That's actually kinda rare, and SP:4 is nothing to sneeze at, either.

Also, it's universally-applicable SP. I realize that's becoming more and more common now (hell, Atramor made it his entire build), but it's still not half bad.

Have I had this page open for so long?

[UsernameMDM]

I would actually say the MoG is better at lower levels because it quickly translates into PERMANENT stat boosts via leveling. It's still great at any level, but the return starts to diminish when you have your PC at the spot you want it to be at, which would be 60 for Hoke in order to have an elder dragon. The Anniversary Medal is great at higher levels/once you get your PC leveled out because it's 4 stat boosts in 1 artefact slot, a slot which is almost a throw-away in most cases.