Would you open a MISB SYSTEM Pirate set?

[Norro]

I was thinking....ESPG with MISB sets, hehee. "Stop blowing holes in ma box!"

LOL!

God Bless,

Nathan

[Mister Phes]

You know, money is a form of exchange :-P . That sounds like a good idea. I was thinking....ESPG with MISB sets, hehee. "Stop blowing holes in ma box!"

I don't get it. What happens in Evil Stevie's Pirate Game that involves MISB sets?

[Scouty]

It's ESPG, with, big MISB sets moving about. Big boxes moving about. In POTC, Jack says "Stop blowing holes in my ship!" Well, it's like that line< is used sets and "Stop blowing holes in ma ship!" is the line that is MISB sets.

Woo, over 100 posts in this thread.

[Mister Phes]

The bit I don't get is why are these moving MISB sets in Evil Stevie's Pirate Game?

[Scouty]

For die-hard collectors that keep all their sets MISB (Not refering to anybody here of course) Which all in all, is a joke.

[Mister Phes]

Ok... I'm the only one to vote No, they're now rare collectors items which need to be preserved but supposedly there are 100's of collectors who have MISB Pirate sets yet not one of them so much as lurks at the Pirate forum to see and vote in this thread?

Is this what's happening here?

[Scouty]

1. What?

2. I haven't even voted yet. But I may soon...maybe.

[oo7]

Ok... I'm the only one to vote No, they're now rare collectors items which need to be preserved but supposedly there are 100's of collectors who have MISB Pirate sets yet not one of them so much as lurks at the Pirate forum to see and vote in this thread?

Is this what's happening here?

Yes, that would make sense as someone who collects MISB sets spends a lot and usually wouldn't want to buy duplicate copies of everything as that is usually very expensive. Since these people don't open any pirate sets there is no point in them coming here and posting here about MOCs and minifigs and such since they have almost no knowledge of them. Thus, it only takes a die-hard Pirate fan with cash to spare like you Phes to do this, thus you are the only one to vote the way you did because to one else here is as obsessed as you (In a good way).

[Mister Phes]

But surely if there's that many MISB sets in existence there must be more Pirate fans like me and Jamft. And if there's that many MISB Pirate set collectors there also must be at least one that's interested in forums like this and MOCing.

I cannot believe they ALL just collect the MISB sets and don't have interests in other areas of Pirate LEGO.

[jamtf]

I did not cast a vote either. I think this should not be voted on. There is no such thing as being right in this case. Everyone has their own opinion and I would like to see it that way. A matter of personal taste and consideration. Do as you please so to say, open it or leave it as is and be happy with your choice. :-$

[snefroe]

Ok... I'm the only one to vote No, they're now rare collectors items which need to be preserved but supposedly there are 100's of collectors who have MISB Pirate sets yet not one of them so much as lurks at the Pirate forum to see and vote in this thread?

Is this what's happening here?

What is happening is that many collectors prefer anonymity; They don't post, maybe they don't even surf the internet for pirate forums... I also don't know how many collectors there are in the world who are interested in MISB sets.

[Mister Phes]

I did not cast a vote either. I think this should not be voted on. There is no such thing as being right in this case. Everyone has their own opinion and I would like to see it that way. A matter of personal taste and consideration. Do as you please so to say, open it or leave it as is and be happy with your choice. :-$

You're not voting to be right or for the correct answer, you're voting to share your opinion. There is no right or wrong answer to a question like that because like you said its a matter of personal taste and consideration. However, if you'd rather not share your personal taste and consideration that's another matter.

What is happening is that many collectors prefer anonymity; They don't post, maybe they don't even surf the internet for pirate forums... I also don't know how many collectors there are in the world who are interested in MISB sets.

Why do they prefer anonymity? And do you know any personally?

[jamtf]

You're not voting to be right or for the correct answer, you're voting to share your opinion. There is no right or wrong answer to a question like that because like you said its a matter of personal taste and consideration. However, if you'd rather not share your personal taste and consideration that's another matter.

Well, I can not choose between "need to be preserved" and "depends on the set". Opening up a sealed 6235 or 1747 would not be such a problem for me, opening up a sealed 6285 would however be out of the question. Fact is that I do not need to open any of the sealed sets I own, so I do not have to argue with myself about it. My opinion is therefore a bit "scattered". At least, now you know what my opinion is and it was not that hard to share.

[snefroe]

Why do they prefer anonymity? And do you know any personally?

I know a few. i'm certain that the number of Lego pirate fans on these boards is just a fraction of people who are buying pirate sets

Many collectors prefer not to communicate through the forums with others because they don't see the need or because they don't have Internet. They're not interested in a Lego community. They've stopped looking at it as "a toy", so may not feel comfortable being here, where Lego still is considered a toy... they most likely do not build stuff, they just collect MISB sets... they're involved in Lego sets but not in the same way as most people here...

[Mister Phes]

Well, I can not choose between "need to be preserved" and "depends on the set". Opening up a sealed 6235 or 1747 would not be such a problem for me, opening up a sealed 6285 would however be out of the question.

Why is opening a sealed 6285 out of the question while 6235 or 1747 is out of the question? Is it just because of the size of the sets?

I know a few. i'm certain that the number of Lego pirate fans on these boards is just a fraction of people who are buying pirate sets

Yes, I have been pondering ways to reach out to Pirate LEGO fans who aren't ware of communities like this. I remember I was in this category for a couple of years and the best I could find was those horrible LEGO.com message boards.

Many collectors prefer not to communicate through the forums with others because they don't see the need or because they don't have Internet. They're not interested in a Lego community. They've stopped looking at it as "a toy", so may not feel comfortable being here, where Lego still is considered a toy... they most likely do not build stuff, they just collect MISB sets... they're involved in Lego sets but not in the same way as most people here...

It would be interesting to talk to one (or some) of these collectors, are there any open enough to do that?

[snefroe]

Yes, I have been pondering ways to reach out to Pirate LEGO fans who aren't ware of communities like this. I remember I was in this category for a couple of years and the best I could find was those horrible LEGO.com message boards.

It would be interesting to talk to one (or some) of these collectors, are there any open enough to do that?

- don't forget, Lego's main market is Europe. Many pirate fans are between 10-15 years old but do not know enough English to step on board...

-i don't know if they're willing to talk. the fact that they are not here, gives you the answer i guess. The 3 guys i know have never shown any interest in doing so... They're also not dealing with Lego on a daily basis, they're buying sets when they feel like it, but they have a normal family life. In any case, I have never seen a moc of them...

[gylman]

I don't believe the general population on EB, fine group of people though it may be, represents the typical Lego collector.

Moreover, on eBay, at any given time there are dozens of MISB pirate sets being sold, and while most are crap sets, at any given time probably one BSB or SES is being sold MISB (right now there is one of each), not to mention the half dozen lesser ships, the Fort/Trading posts, etc.

I don't think MISB pirate sets are all that rare.

[Mister Phes]

- don't forget, Lego's main market is Europe. Many pirate fans are between 10-15 years old but do not know enough English to step on board...

But lets not forget that most 10-15 year olds were too young to remember when Pirate LEGO was still in production. So I'm not entirely convinced that many of the SYSTEM Pirate fans are within that age bracket because they don't get exposure to the Pirate theme like the have to Star Wars, Knights Kingdom, etc.

-i don't know if they're willing to talk. the fact that they are not here, gives you the answer i guess. The 3 guys i know have never shown any interest in doing so... They're also not dealing with Lego on a daily basis, they're buying sets when they feel like it, but they have a normal family life.

I don't necessarily mean post on a forum, maybe just Email me... I'm curious to know what things are like from their perspective and the only way I'm really going to find out is to ask.

In any case, I have never seen a moc of them...

Nobody saw a MOC out of me for a good 12 months after I registered here! X-D

[Norro]

On a similar vein: I often feel the preservation vs use debate with my lego poster collection (collection being too strong a word :-D ). I like to grab a lego poster every time I see one I don't have for a good price, and I hang them on my walls, they fade, are taped/blue tacked/ etc but I would rather enjoy them than store them...

God Bless,

Nathan

[Mister Phes]

You should really be framing them Mr Norro :-D

Do you have any pirate posters?

[Norrington]

so much as lurks at the Pirate forum to see and vote in this thread?

Is this what's happening here?

OH no lurkers! i'm scaed!

[jamtf]

Why is opening a sealed 6285 out of the question while 6235 or 1747 is out of the question? Is it just because of the size of the sets?

Size and value. An opened 1747 or 6235 for instance is not that much less worth than a sealed copy. We are talking less than $10-$15 price difference and that does not sound like destroying its value when you decide to open up the set.

Furthermore a smaller set can be easily replaced if necessary since there are still quite a few around I suppose. It will be more difficult to replace a sealed 6285 or 6277 for instance. 8-|

[Norro]

You should really be framing them Mr Norro :-D

Do you have any pirate posters?

I agree, but not only can I not afford to, it would also ruin some of the look slightly...

We discussed my most treasured pirate poster in this thread. But I also have the standard islander one...

God Bless,

Nathan

[Mister Phes]

What does the Islander poster look like? An opportunity has arisen for me procure one and I think I might take it.

[Norro]

What does the Islander poster look like? An opportunity has arisen for me procure one and I think I might take it.

I can't find a pic anywhere, which is odd considering it seems to be the most readily available of the old posters. Unfortunately there is no good database online... So here is a low quality pic I took to give the idea:

God Bless,

Nathan