Darkdragon Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 I'm thinking that all this talk about the simulation is just as distracting as the talk of a possible second team (in the simulation). I'm not really sure about hair styles either...probably has no bearing on things like the Admiral has said before the pictures are worthless for investigation. The most important things to look at are the attitudes of the people today, that's all we have so far. I'll be looking at folks that seem overly defensive, that's for sure. I don't like the whole pre-day-one contact situation either, it seems really fishy even with the plausible explanation. For now, I think at least we have a some great conversation going and much better than the simulation had anyway (and that's the last I'll say about the simulation).
Scubacarrot Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 I'm not really sure about hair styles either...probably has no bearing on things like the Admiral has said before the pictures are worthless for investigation. Please tell me that is a joke.
CMP Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 I'm not really sure about hair styles either...probably has no bearing on things like the Admiral has said before the pictures are worthless for investigation. Someone needs to reread the rules. 12. Feel free to look for clues in the pictures. And secret messages on the bottoms of salt shakers. And shoes in your butt. And potatoes.
KotZ Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 Yes it was in jest. Lynching based on hair is probably one of the oddest ways to lynch. As for the investigator for the hair radio creature, not sure. Well have to find out who it is first. I think though we are getting distracted, and as said before, look for those who are overly defensive, and no, not about their hair either.
Darkdragon Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 Someone needs to reread the rules. I didn't say it was against the rules, just that he's said before that there weren't clues in the pictures. If we want to lynch based on pictures, i guess that's one way to do it...but I still don't think thats a good idea.
Peanuts Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 I didn't say it was against the rules, just that he's said before that there weren't clues in the pictures. If we want to lynch based on pictures, i guess that's one way to do it...but I still don't think thats a good idea. Lynching based on pictures is defiantly definitely not an option. Their They're There may be this new rule, but I'd assume it's just to avoid what happened in the simulation. I still think that there are no clues in the pics.
Darkdragon Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 I'm freaking kidding. I thought you might be, but I wouldn't want to be accused of not defending myself.
Tamamono Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 Why are we wasting our time talking about hairstyles and clues in the pictures? It's obvious that that rule was put there due to what happened in the training simulation - it's either the host trying to be fair and let us shoot ourselves in the foot if we want to or it's a joke.
CMP Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 Why are we wasting our time talking about hairstyles and clues in the pictures? It's obvious that that rule was put there due to what happened in the training simulation - it's either the host trying to be fair and let us shoot ourselves in the foot if we want to or it's a joke. Actually, Hornby seems to have hacked the Admiral's transmission.
Tamamono Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 Actually, Hornby seems to have hacked the Admiral's transmission. Yes, that's possible too. It seems Hornby's style as well, so I wouldn't be surprised.
Waterbrick Down Posted July 7, 2012 Posted July 7, 2012 Oh ... that's ... ... cool. I guess... Jerks are so much fun to play with. Can you word your accusation in one sentence, just for a summary? And use character name and screen name? I am still confused about the names. Who did who try to direct suspicion towards for doing something the same as they did to someone during the simulation? What? If I may, Ensign Mandel (Dannylonglegs) believes Commander Gordon (Scubacarrot) is a scum who is making Lieutenant Francis' (Awesomestar) "sheepish" behavior [Lieutenant Francis "agreed" with commander Gordon earlier today] sound "scummy" since that was the strategy that Ensign Mandel (Dannylonglegs) utilized in the first day of the training simulator. While I am grateful for Ensign Mandel's experience in the training simulator, I think his accusation seemed to quick. Commander Gordon made only one refer Lieutenant Francis' behavior and Mandel makes it sound like Gordon was all gun ho for making Francis look like either candidate for today's lynch or a vigilante's hit. If Gordon had continued his suggesting that Francis might be a scum, then I might look with more favor on Mandel's argument, however that opportunity has now past and we are still left in the dark as far as a suspect.
Dannylonglegs Posted July 7, 2012 Posted July 7, 2012 If I may, Ensign Mandel (Dannylonglegs) believes Commander Gordon (Scubacarrot) is a scum who is making Lieutenant Francis' (Awesomestar) "sheepish" behavior [Lieutenant Francis "agreed" with commander Gordon earlier today] sound "scummy" since that was the strategy that Ensign Mandel (Dannylonglegs) utilized in the first day of the training simulator. While I am grateful for Ensign Mandel's experience in the training simulator, I think his accusation seemed to quick. Commander Gordon made only one refer Lieutenant Francis' behavior and Mandel makes it sound like Gordon was all gun ho for making Francis look like either candidate for today's lynch or a vigilante's hit. If Gordon had continued his suggesting that Francis might be a scum, then I might look with more favor on Mandel's argument, however that opportunity has now past and we are still left in the dark as far as a suspect. I still think Commander Gordon (Scubacarrot)'s behavior is scummy, but you're right about how quick my accusation was. I've never honestly led a lynch (on my own or for the town), and while I think Gordon's the most scummy, I'm not sure what to do apart from vote when the time comes. I suppose this is my cue. I'll reiterate my argument, because all meaningful talk seems to have died down. I think Commander Gordon (Scubacarrot) is scum for the following reasons: 1. My previously mentioned argument in which Gordon pointed out the sheepy behavior of Lieutenant Francis (Awesomestar) which you mentioned. Furthermore, 2. Gordon (Scubacarrot) is usually more on the attack. From watching his behavior, he usually gets into messy arguments when he's suspected and acts very defensively, which usually makes some suspect him because "Scum act defensively." He hasn't done that. Instead he attempted to change the subject after addressing my concerns, starting the whole metagaming discussion. Frankly, I think, if he was Town, he'd have noticed how quick and unsubstantuated my argument was, and suspect I was scum for making that argument and 'trying to get rid of a potentially dangerous Townie.' This is now the meat of my argument. Since then he hasn't said a whole lot, and let the discussion drop. To top it off. 3. Please tell me that is a joke. He's calling out Ensign Toby Rockford (Darkdragon)'s confusing behavior, when during the simulation, I approached him in an attempt to convince him to Lynch "darkdragon" on the grounds that his behavior was sheepish and confusing/confused, and he (Gordon (Scubacarrot)) said: I coincidentally know she is let's say: quite new to mafia, I think that's where her slightly odd behaviour comes from. She responded very clearly and with a lot of reason when I asked her to elaborate her vote, I'm leaning slightly town on her. He brushed by her 'scummy' and confused behavior by saying "She's quite new to Mafia." Has that changed, or have you, Gordon?
Shadows Posted July 7, 2012 Posted July 7, 2012 Well, this is certainly more interesting than the simulation, though I'm not sure it's more helpful. Still, I do see a few potential patterns emerging. Carry on, folks, I'm just going to keep watching for now. Actually, Hornby seems to have hacked the Admiral's transmission. Nooo, really?
Dragonator Posted July 7, 2012 Posted July 7, 2012 Chief Security Officer Lieutenant George Harper yawns. Well this is all very interesting, and possibly helpful with further evidence later on. I can't say I really agree with any of the accusations made so far, but it is early in the day still. Lunch, anyone? I could do with something including potatoes. I'm defiantly confused about this. I'm defiantly going to do something violent in a minute.
CMP Posted July 7, 2012 Posted July 7, 2012 Lunch, anyone? I could do with something including potatoes. I thought you already ate?
Dannylonglegs Posted July 7, 2012 Posted July 7, 2012 I thought you already ate? Don't look for clues in the pictures!
Scubacarrot Posted July 7, 2012 Posted July 7, 2012 I still think Commander Gordon (Scubacarrot)'s behavior is scummy, but you're right about how quick my accusation was. I've never honestly led a lynch (on my own or for the town), and while I think Gordon's the most scummy, I'm not sure what to do apart from vote when the time comes. I suppose this is my cue. I'll reiterate my argument, because all meaningful talk seems to have died down. I think Commander Gordon (Scubacarrot) is scum for the following reasons: 1. My previously mentioned argument in which Gordon pointed out the sheepy behavior of Lieutenant Francis (Awesomestar) which you mentioned. Furthermore, 2. Gordon (Scubacarrot) is usually more on the attack. From watching his behavior, he usually gets into messy arguments when he's suspected and acts very defensively, which usually makes some suspect him because "Scum act defensively." He hasn't done that. Instead he attempted to change the subject after addressing my concerns, starting the whole metagaming discussion. Frankly, I think, if he was Town, he'd have noticed how quick and unsubstantuated my argument was, and suspect I was scum for making that argument and 'trying to get rid of a potentially dangerous Townie.' This is now the meat of my argument. Since then he hasn't said a whole lot, and let the discussion drop. To top it off. 3. He's calling out Ensign Toby Rockford (Darkdragon)'s confusing behavior, when during the simulation, I approached him in an attempt to convince him to Lynch "darkdragon" on the grounds that his behavior was sheepish and confusing/confused, and he (Gordon (Scubacarrot)) said: He brushed by her 'scummy' and confused behavior by saying "She's quite new to Mafia." Has that changed, or have you, Gordon? What. The. HELL. NOW you are wasting everyone's time. I change the subject? read my words back and see: There was nothing more to comment on, your whole first point is complete megablocks. I am not defending myself, because there is nothing to defend myself from, you did not bring in new points, and I responded and destroyed your previous points! I can NOT believe there are people saying your point is "fair", or something along those lines, it relies on just as many if's than the fact that I could be a space overlord from Mars that is here to give us all presents. I am "usually" more on the attack? What the hell is that supposed to mean? Who am I supposed to attack? You? Why? In the combat simulator I was on the attack when I could, and that has not changed, BARELY a third of a day has passed. Has it occured to you that it's possible there has not been anything I felt the need to press the attack on? And what the hell is your third point supposed to mean, her behaviour in the combat simulator was not scummish, but noobish, if you want to use such words. What I quoted however, is something completely different. I don't know if you have noticed, but the discussion about hair can be in no way be considered serious, along with the whole "clues in pictures" thing, and with the way Rockford said it, it was enough for my statement, don't you think? Now, if you want an argument, and not me responding to megablocks, do your freaking best. I don't know why you are being an megablock, that's the only reason I can think of for your behaviour, really. You have zero clues, everything you say is completely situational and with as many if's to fill a freaking mooncrater. Your second point is MORE megablocks with the point you added: "he'd have noticed how quick and unsubstantuated my argument was, and suspect I was scum for making that argument and 'trying to get rid of a potentially dangerous Townie." WHAT KIND OF megablocks IS THIS? I don't know if you have noticed, but "he is accusing me, so he must be scum" is the biggest megablocks to ever come up in every game. I think you are being an idiot, not scum. The last sentence said, if you were an idiot, I figure you would have seen the light when I called your megablocks. Now with your blind insistance... I hate to say it, but you know what it is starting to look like? That you are either pissed for catching your scum buddy in the simulator, or you believe me to be too dangerous to let live this time. Stop making up fake points, as well, it is not cute.
Hinckley Posted July 7, 2012 Posted July 7, 2012 I still think Commander Gordon (Scubacarrot)'s behavior is scummy, but you're right about how quick my accusation was. I've never honestly led a lyn...her 'scummy' and confused behavior by saying "She's quite new to Mafia." Has that changed, or have you, Gordon? I'd vote with you against him. Just because he's a dick. I'm defiantly going to do something violent in a minute. That is defiantly a bad idea. Violins defiantly only beget violins and they annoy the shit out of me. Can't we get a piano?
Scubacarrot Posted July 7, 2012 Posted July 7, 2012 I'd vote with you against him. Just because he's a dick. Okay. I am the dick now. That's fine. Have YOU actually said anything useful yet? There is enough chatting about haircuts (you should not say anything in that regard, really, yours is terrible) and other nonsense, the slight hint of seriousness when you raised suspicion over something trivial: namely the timepoint when someone send you a PM. Which you disregarded when it was explained right away. Can I ask what your actual problem with that thing was in the first place? And not seeing the point of made up accusations and pointless jokes that aren't funny is not being a dick. If the jokes were funny, maybe. But they are not. Just saying. You calling people out on being a dick, however...
Flare Posted July 7, 2012 Posted July 7, 2012 Personally, it seems to me that not much has happened today, besides Hincks Ensign Falcon making jokes and other people arguing about fashionable hair-styles. Perhaps Ensign Falcon is the scum... he definitely is making plenty of distracting noise! Let me answer your question with a question, Ensign. Why shouldn't I PM early in the game? Really, I'd like to know. If I PM too much, will be ears fall off? In my opinion, the only reason I wouldn't want to PM would be if I had something to hide. I've got nothing to hide, so I see no risk in PMing. How about you, Ensign? Have you got something to hide? Why didn't you send a PM to me? I thought you liked me! Maybe you're scum and you were sending PM's to the most influential members to gain their confidence?
Dakar A Posted July 7, 2012 Posted July 7, 2012 What. The. HELL. megablocks. What the hell is that supposed to mean? megablocks megablock and with as many if's to fill a freaking mooncrater. megablocks megablocks megablocks megablocks. [attorney]I think that's called Ad Hominem, Mr. Carrot. And although your ranting defense is nice, it sems somewhat different from your gameplay style in the simulator. I think, in the simulator, you would have called out Mr. LongLegs, AND accused him of being scum. But here, you seem to be content to just call him a "megablok".[/attorney] WHile it isn't enough to call him out as being scum, I think Scuba's defense has enough holes to be decidely different from the way I remeber him playing in the simulator. Can't we get a piano? You're ging to want a Piano Forte. Just a piano would be too quite on this big ship. [/musichumor]
Scubacarrot Posted July 7, 2012 Posted July 7, 2012 [attorney]I think that's called Ad Hominem, Mr. Carrot. And although your ranting defense is nice, it sems somewhat different from your gameplay style in the simulator. I think, in the simulator, you would have called out Mr. LongLegs, AND accused him of being scum. But here, you seem to be content to just call him a "megablok".[/attorney] WHile it isn't enough to call him out as being scum, I think Scuba's defense has enough holes to be decidely different from the way I remeber him playing in the simulator. Yeah right, read the bottom part of my statement. Smartass.
Bob Posted July 7, 2012 Author Posted July 7, 2012 Time to vote. You need 12 votes to convict. The day will go on for another 48 hours total.
Scubacarrot Posted July 7, 2012 Posted July 7, 2012 I see no reason to wait, we can unvote all we want, anyway, and there is enough time. I'm going to vote for Ensign Campbell, he has conviniently not read half my statement, and is (to me) quite obviously trying to form a bandwagon on me. He sees, with someone else, holes that don't exist. (repeated) Newsflash! How can you "know" someone's playstyle by a quarter of a game? Answer, you can't. I think there is a decent chance Campbell jumped on this oppertunity, unable to see how ridiculous the claim is, and misjudging Falcon, who is a veteran on this sort of thing, that he is supporting Mandel's accusation, while the truth is I hurt Falcon's feelings, which is why he will vote for me. Vote: Ensign Campbell (Dakar A)
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