Lego Superheroes 2013 Rumours & Discussion

[DJ Bricks]

What about Elrond? I know we're getting him in a set this year, but for now he's an exclusive character. And they wouldn't need any new molds for characters like GL or MM. But maybe you're right that they're saving the new characters for sets. I'm just bummed that the only new DC super hero and villain that we're getting this year are Aquaman and Zod.

Can you think of a set Clark could come, people don't like Supes as it is, so yeah. What about Faora and Tor-An, they be part of Zod's army, but they're villians in their own right, at least Faora, i believe there are some comics where Supes just faces her. I'm excited to get them plus Lois and col. Hardy

[Sam892]

I'm not massively excited for MOS stuff but, I'm looking forward to some military figures? At least that's what I imagine after seeing the trailer and, mention of Col Hardy.

That blog disappointed me a bit. They glossed over the Superheroes stuff very quickly.

Also with the whole Exculsive Figures thing. I think that asking as no new Molds are needed then LEGO wouldn't have a problem producing it. After all if it means their going to sell more DVDs why wouldn't they.

I can see why they chose Clark Kent as the LEGO Batman 2 story revolved around Supes a lot more than any other DC heroes. And although the Fig is useable for really one one thing it's still great to get a new face print.

[Oky]

Can you think of a set Clark could come

Uhm, yeah, a Daily Planet set. It would basically be like the Daily Bugle Showdown, but with DC characters and some kind of transformation feature for Superman.

And no, I don't count Faora and Tor-an as major villains.

[TheLegoDr]

I do like that Clark Kent figure, so I will ultimately get it. I don't plan on buying it right away like I did with Elrond though. But we'll see what prices are like and availability.

[Mr Spielbrick]

A few more details on the Superheroes sets, courtesy of the brilliant British film magazine Empire: http://www.empireonline.com/empireblogs/empire-states/post/p1335

[Bobstapwns]

On my phone, can't find the games topic, so I apologize, but here's the Batman game!

http://www.flickr.co...N07/8412011631/

I'm not sure if my eyes are deceiving me or not, but is that a mini-Joker's fun house on the board? :P The game already has me interested.

As for the movie, I'm glad to hear there is finally a release date for the movie. I'm also glad we didn't get a new-suited Robin or Batman and we got the first Clark Kent. I wonder if he has a double-sided face...hmm...

Both - the game and the movie - look great and I'm ready to buy them when they come out.

Edited January 25, 2013 by Bobstapwns

[Kez]

I'm not sure if my eyes are deceiving me or not, but is that a mini-Joker's fun house on the board? :P The game already has me interested.

Yep I agree with you, it looks to be the funhouse because you can make out the joker face in the middle of it.

[strangely]

What about Elrond? I know we're getting him in a set this year, but for now he's an exclusive character. And they wouldn't need any new molds for characters like GL or MM. But maybe you're right that they're saving the new characters for sets. I'm just bummed that the only new DC super hero and villain that we're getting this year are Aquaman and Zod.

Elrond is different. He's not a headlining character like Green Lantern or Hawkgirl. Elrond exists as one of a large group of characters that add to a larger narratives. With Superheroes each hero is the main character of their own story. Logically introducing new big heroes like the Flash or Green Lantern as exclusives on something they play little part in is ultimately a waste. Instead Lego can have them headline their own sets and make more money. In time that $24.99 Blur-ray will sit in the five dollar bin, meanwhile that Lego set featuring the Green Lantern will still be worth that retail price (Even on sale Lego's are still expensive). Lego ultimately will profit more by having them in a set rather than as a cheap throw-away exclusive the Blu-ray.

Plus look at how the exclusives operate, they mostly create variations with a very limited use. Think of the Star Wars exclusives, they are pretty much useless outside of the last two minutes of A new Hope. The Harry Potter exclusive if I recall is basically based off of one scene in one movie. And now we have a Clark Kent fig which is seen in any movie or show for a few seconds. Granted there are exceptions to that rule like Lex's power suit, but for the most part Lego's tries hard to make variations that have limited uses (Saving the most wanted variations for sets (Expensive sets at that)). I am betting we'll see a normal Clark Kent in the future and they'll be able to put that little "New" tag on it because this one won't have a ripped shirt.

Also with the whole Exculsive Figures thing. I think that asking as no new Molds are needed then LEGO wouldn't have a problem producing it. After all if it means their going to sell more DVDs why wouldn't they.

I can see why they chose Clark Kent as the LEGO Batman 2 story revolved around Supes a lot more than any other DC heroes. And although the Fig is useable for really one one thing it's still great to get a new face print.

There's one thing you need to consider though, Profit. With any Lego brand movies or games that are licensed Lego is splitting the profit three ways (Lego, the owner of the property and the game/movie makers). Meanwhile they can charge $50 dollars a set just to get that one hero and their only splitting that profit with themselves and the owner of that property. Lego isn't going to waste an important money-making character on being a thrown in exclusive. So instead they put in a variation of an existing character so that they can save other new characters for sets. Again Elrond being the exception. Ultimately Lego is going to care about selling the sets more than the DVD's. Sure they'll add a gimmicky little figure in to sweeten the deal but ultimately they want to save the good stuff for their main product.

[Navy Trooper Fenson]

Nice looking fig!

Edit: Ah, it's a movie! Even better than another book!

Not really. It´s the same story as the LEGO Batman 2 game. It´s redone with better graphics but really, this is just silly. The story wasn´t that great already and now they do it as a direct-to-DVD movie.

I'm not massively excited for MOS stuff but, I'm looking forward to some military figures? At least that's what I imagine after seeing the trailer and, mention of Col Hardy.

That blog disappointed me a bit. They glossed over the Superheroes stuff very quickly.

There will be Colonel Hardy who is supposed to command his army of imaginary soldiers and maybe Africa Corp Nazis if some kid is old enough to have been around in 2008.

The whole coverage about this Toy Fair was extremely crappy. Brickset and Fbtb were there personally and couldn´t care enough to memorize more than just the figs names. Random sites that I never heard of that are not directly linked to LEGO had better coverage about the themes.

But then, maybe the sets were so crappy that they wanted the memory to fade out of their head. Like the prelim-pics of 2008s Kingdom of the Crystal Skull sets. In that case I wouldn´t blame them for memorizing the shapes but basic stuff like "spaceship" should have been there at the very least.

A few more details on the Superheroes sets, courtesy of the brilliant British film magazine Empire: http://www.empireonl...ates/post/p1335

That´s more like it!

Sounds boring for now. Nah, boring would be too harsh. Just incomplete. Supermans sets are a pod, a spaceship and a car and the spaceship and the pod seem to be the one set with Lois. It is missing a bit too much for my liking. When they can only display the figs and then the displayed figs are cardboard cutouts it seems a bit pointless to display anything from the movies on the Toy Fair. It´s not really helpful for the sellers, they could have send pictures of the sets to the sellers in the first place and even the stuff that wasn´t simply left out seems rather spoilery. I would have preferred to just find them on the shelves than this easter egg hunt that is going on here.

Elrond is different. He's not a headlining character like Green Lantern or Hawkgirl. Elrond exists as one of a large group of characters that add to a larger narratives. With Superheroes each hero is the main character of their own story. Logically introducing new big heroes like the Flash or Green Lantern as exclusives on something they play little part in is ultimately a waste.

Which is exactly what they did with Green Lantern on Comic-Con 2011.

LEGO Marvel is based on movies and shows except for one set and LEGO DC is Batman and his four sad friends. It´s as if the monkeys with typewriters from DCs movie division are also writing the list of set suggestions for LEGO.

The point of the story is: Throw logic out of the window and wait until they give out Flash figures to Toy Fair attendees.

[strangely]

Not really. It´s the same story as the LEGO Batman 2 game. It´s redone with better graphics but really, this is just silly. The story wasn´t that great already and now they do it as a direct-to-DVD movie.

I have to agree that the story wasn't that great. The deconstructor was a stupid and illogical idea. At the same time though it does seem like something you might have seen in the Adam West days of Batman. But it at least was better than whatever the supposed story of the first Lego Batman was (I had such an unpleasant time with that game). Crappy plot aside it is at least a fun ride (I'm a sucker for the Lego brand of humor).

It does make me wonder if perhaps the Lego Batman movie was in production before the game (Several of the levels really felt like they were forced into the story).

Which is exactly what they did with Green Lantern on Comic-Con 2011.

LEGO Marvel is based on movies and shows except for one set and LEGO DC is Batman and his four sad friends. It´s as if the monkeys with typewriters from DCs movie division are also writing the list of set suggestions for LEGO.

I really don't count comic con exclusives just because there's such a small handful of them they're just a joke at that point. Also I could care less about that Green Lantern just because it was based on that flop of a movie (I might never look at Green Lantern the same ).

And you might be right about who's writing those set suggestions (I hardly think it's a coincidence that Cyborg was included right after he joined the team in Justice League Doom). Also I am sick and tired of Batman in every DC set. I have way too many Batman's right now.

[Oakenmold]

Might I point out that the Lego Batman 2 game was aimed at children. Yes as an adult I loved playing it and all the cool could be mini figures. But the film is also aimed at children, yes to cash in, but the whole plot cannot be to complicated.

I am super excited for Iron Man 3 sets, I might get a couple of superman sets as the superman will be different. As the whole suit is different in the film. I highly doubt that we will see any new super hero sets this year, apart from 1 exclusive later on, just like Spiderman/Doc Ock set last year. Which might co-inside with the Lego Marvel game release to maximise exposure. Im just looking forward to see what mini figure they will include with the game.

Edited January 26, 2013 by Oakenmold

[Navy Trooper Fenson]

I really don't count comic con exclusives just because there's such a small handful of them they're just a joke at that point. Also I could care less about that Green Lantern just because it was based on that flop of a movie (I might never look at Green Lantern the same ).

You are right, he was based on the movie. I always thought he was based on the comics or the animated show but I never memorized the color shades of his undies because I too don´t like Green Lantern. But at the moment it looks like they don´t want to give out the Comic-Con exclusives in other sets which is a shame for the black Nolan-Man and Phoenix that are now wasted.

Might I point out that the Lego Batman 2 game was aimed at children. Yes as an adult I loved playing it and all the cool could be mini figures. But the film is also aimed at children, yes to cash in, but the whole plot cannot be to complicated.

MOST OF EVERYTHING about Batman is aimed at children and still managed to have better writing!

The story kinda worked for the game and TT can be excused for it´s mistakes because it was their first real LEGO story but now they are taking this mediocre to bad piece, reanimate it with darker lighting and better looking rain? That´s the most naked cash grabbing I have ever seen and should in no way be defensed. If people are still mourning because of the Star Wars Special Editions I can´t understand why this is acceptable.

If they would have at least reworked the story a little to incorporate the Justice League better into the plot I would have forgiven but Shot-for-shot remakes are the most pointless kind of remakes in existence and this pointlessness is only exaggerated when the only thing they manage to improve are graphics. Because they are so important in a movie where every character is made out of squares.

Edited January 26, 2013 by Navy Trooper Fenson

[RaincloudDustbin]

Has it actually been confirmed that it's just cutscenes because last I heard, it was just a rumour.

[Sam892]

You are right, he was based on the movie. I always thought he was based on the comics or the animated show but I never memorized the color shades of his undies because I too don´t like Green Lantern. But at the moment it looks like they don´t want to give out the Comic-Con exclusives in other sets which is a shame for the black Nolan-Man and Phoenix that are now wasted

It doesn't mean we won't get other versions of the character. There's six Comic Con figs three of which all have other variations. Jean grey has tons of costumes and I believe we will eventually see her in a set.

I'm lucky enough to have gotten Phoenix and Black suit Spidey as a suprise Birthday present. However I still believe that we will see her as Marvel girl or some other outfit in the future.

I'm hoping they do a similar thing with the Marvel video game and make a movie out of it. For another Exculsive figure I would happily buy it. Perhaps Peter Parker with a ripped shirt and his Spider tee under Neath? Haha.

[CorneliusMurdock]

Let's keep on topic, people. Actual sets and minifigs please. Movie and video game discussion does not belong here.

[DJ Bricks]

It doesn't mean we won't get other versions of the character. There's six Comic Con figs three of which all have other variations. Jean grey has tons of costumes and I believe we will eventually see her in a set.

I'm lucky enough to have gotten Phoenix and Black suit Spidey as a suprise Birthday present. However I still believe that we will see her as Marvel girl or some other outfit in the future.

I'm hoping they do a similar thing with the Marvel video game and make a movie out of it. For another Exculsive figure I would happily buy it.Perhaps Peter Parker with a ripped shirt and his Spider tee under Neath? Haha.

Oh god no! Those Superman ripoff moments are one of the many reasons why i hated the Toby Spidey movies. Perhaps a Bruce Banner minifig or Steve Rogers(we might get him in some possible CA2:TWS sets) ?

We could get Jean in her Dark Phoenix or X-Men outfits, they could reuse the face though, that's the perfect Jean face.

FYI: Green Lantern's costume in normally black green and white.

Edited January 26, 2013 by daniel gourhan22

[Vindicare]

...Jean grey has tons of costumes and I believe we will eventually see her in a set...

True. As a kid who watched the X-Men cartoon religiously, if someone told me we were getting Jean Grey, I'd be hoping for either her X-Men outfit, or her green Phoenix outfit. Had the Comic Con exclusive been the red outfit, would've made me feel a bit better. As a non book reader, I don't connect to the red suit as I do the green. I guess I'll just keep an eye on prices and hope for the best.

[wesker]

True. As a kid who watched the X-Men cartoon religiously, if someone told me we were getting Jean Grey, I'd be hoping for either her X-Men outfit, or her green Phoenix outfit. Had the Comic Con exclusive been the red outfit, would've made me feel a bit better. As a non book reader, I don't connect to the red suit as I do the green. I guess I'll just keep an eye on prices and hope for the best.

I'm still holding hope for a Phoenix Jean to appear in a set one day. Remember the Dark Knight Batman was also exclusive to Comic Con and not to be found in any sets. Now Lego has released the Tumbler set with a Batman that is based on the exact same costume, but is a completely different figure to the Comic Con one. If Batman can get away with it no reason Jean Grey can't either, especially when the green Phoenix costume is by far her most iconic look.

[Pumpkin Pie]

Wow, I love that Clark kent/Superman fig!

[TheLegoDr]

As many people who are upset about multiple Batmans, he is the main person I would want to collect. Having multiple of him is the only way I can get his rogue gallery. I do want a lot of other main characters too. I like these little variations too. but I like collecting minifigures.

[Sam892]

I personally think the reason that nearly all the DC sets are Batman based is very simple, Batman sells. Not only that but DC doesn't have the luxury that marvel has in terms of characters. With DC the majority of the public really only know three heroes. Sure they may know the names of Aquaman, Green Lantern and Flash but they really know very little about their, back grounds, rogues and even powers.

Marvel has had lots of success with their characters compared to this, everyone knows Spider-man, Hulk, the X-men and The Avengers. Sure the movies help and DC have really only stuck with Superman and Batman.

At the moment shows like Green Lantern and Young Justice are helping the younger generation, find out about these characters. However its hard to compete with Marvel who have had success in the 60's, 80's, 90's and especially the 00's with their less known characters.

LEGO obviously know this, if they made a set with just Aquaman and Black manta it wouldn't sell very well. Especially when up against other sets in the Superheroes theme. If I saw a shelf with Batman vs joker, Wolverine vs Magneto, spider-man vs Venom and Aquaman vs Black manta, the last one I would pick would be the Aquaman set. These sets are obviously a compromise for everyone, we get Aquaman but he has too piggyback on Batman. Which to me is fine we're only a year into this theme and hopefully in three years time we can get other heroes and their villains in their own sets. However DC have to play their part and continue to promote their characters like what their currently doing.

Edited January 27, 2013 by Sam892

[RaincloudDustbin]

Well said, as is that timeless argument of the LEGO target age group.

[Spider-Man]

...we're only a year into this theme and hopefully in three years time we can get other heroes and their villains in their own sets.

Very well put statement. This excerpt is what I think is the most important thing to look at. This theme is still incredibly young, and we need to give LEGO the time to feel out the market and see what does and does not sell well. There is not a doubt in my mind that LEGO won't be releasing more heroes and villains as time goes on.

[Im a brickmaster.]

Well put Spidey, anyhow all the news about the Iron Man sets seems to have

raised more questions! Apparently it's a speed boat, not a helicopter in the

mansion set....

[Kez]

I guess we'll find out most info on the new sets in a few days time at Nuremberg toyfair