Lego Superheroes 2013 Rumours & Discussion

[coolguy2323]

I never understood why those movies didn't get sets, especially The Dark Knight.

[DJ Bricks]

I never understood why those movies didn't get sets, especially The Dark Knight.

TDK did get a very loosely based set, like the TDKR set we got this year. But those movies are long and not kid friendly at all.

[Capt. Redblade]

I never understood why those movies didn't get sets, especially The Dark Knight.

Go and rewatch the scene in TDK where Joker kills Gamble. Or the scene in Batman Begins where Scarecrow and Falcone meet in the asylum. Then tell me if you still think that way.

[eldiano]

I hate the TDK batman either way I can't stand they way they painted his suit gray rather than black.

[CommishGordon]

Figures based on "Batman Begins" or "The Dark Knight" would be fantastic - and I agree that the movies are not for younger kids, but that includes TDKR and yet we still got figures based on their movie counterparts. And I'm not sure there is a worse scene in any of those movies than when Bane breaks the Bat. I'm all for sets based around The Dark Knight Trilogy.

[305Bats]

I hate the TDK batman either way I can't stand they way they painted his suit gray rather than black.

That's exactly why I still haven't gotten it,I wanted it to go alongside the MoS Superman but it isn't even close to being movie accurate!

[Navy Trooper Fenson]

So why can't we get sets on X-Men again? And Fantastic Four? And the like?

-Omi

I don´t understand why you are so defiant of the obvious plan of LEGO only to release sets tying in with current movies or shows. Looking at all the releases every set on Marvels side is a tie-in except for Deadpools chopper which was made because of Wolverines, Magnetos and Deadpools general popularity and because the only movie released that year was Avengers. Looking at Marvels plan to do two movies every year and seeing how there won´t be Thor 2 based sets this year (even if it is an August released exclusive, we would at least know the name and set number by now) LEGO either has to produce more sets (which there is no indication right now they want to do or even are able to do).

I am not saying this is how I want it to be, this is just the system how they are choosing set choices.

And anyway, the inevitable S@H exclusive 100+ set Marvel is owed for the release of DCs Arkham Asylum Breakout will probably be X-Men related to tie in with the new film and because something based on their current movies would probably have to be available in every store, not just exclusive to LEGOs internet shop.

Also, the contracts with Marvel and DC are for a three year period. I am certain when the contracts will be renewed we will see more than just 6 set per company each year. Maybe even a separate line for comic based sets without the movie likenesses. But certainly some Fantastic Four set for their movie in 2015.

I would buy ANY DC minifigs LEGO is willing to make!

I would buy ANY DC minifigs that aren´t different versions of Batman and his villains we already got in the last few sets and lines.

[BlueberryWaffles]

I think the reason we aren't getting FF sets and the like is that unlike DC, who gave them everything, Marvel only gave TLG the rights to:

Make X-men comic sets.

Make Ultimate Spider-Man sets.

Make MCU sets.

and that's it. X-men are the only ones who get comic sets.

[Sam892]

I think the reason we aren't getting FF sets and the like is that unlike DC, who gave them everything, Marvel only gave TLG the rights to:

Make X-men comic sets.

Make Ultimate Spider-Man sets.

Make MCU sets.

and that's it. X-men are the only ones who get comic sets.

We can still techically get the FF characters. We already have Doctor Doom as a Minifigure and The Thing just appeared in most recent Ultimate Spider-Man episode. So just because we most likely wont get FF sets, we still get the characters as a compromise.

[kermit]

I think they will have a new super hero set at comic con since the ewok village was already revealed. Hopefully it will be the x-men stealth jet.

[Omicron]

Again, I believe we'll be getting some movie based minifigs as CC exclusives this year since it's something unique that would never come in a set. Here are a couple ideas...

DC:

-TDK Joker

-TDK Two Face

-BB Scarecrow

-BB Ras al Ghul

Marvel:

-IM2 Whiplash

-IM2 War Machine

-IM Iron Man Mark 1

-CA Captain America

-CA Red Skull

-TIH The Amboination

I guess we'll just have to wait another month to know

I see no point in releasing special figures to promote old movies. The point in things like are to promote upcoming or current media. They could, however, make variants of said characters if they came from upcoming media or the comics.

I don´t understand why you are so defiant of the obvious plan of LEGO only to release sets tying in with current movies or shows.

I was under the impression, like many were, that Lego would be branching out into the comics and others heroes, and not just focusing on just Batman for 2 years and the MCU (which BTW doesn't include Fantastic Four and X-Men) and Spiderman show. They said so in the press release.

I don't understand why you are so defiant of me hoping Lego would branch out.

-Omi

Edited June 25, 2013 by Omicron

[SoupOrFishOil]

I think the reason we aren't getting FF sets and the like is that unlike DC, who gave them everything, Marvel only gave TLG the rights to:

Make X-men comic sets.

Make Ultimate Spider-Man sets.

Make MCU sets.

and that's it. X-men are the only ones who get comic sets.

Did we ever have a confirmation of this? It just seems kind of odd, since the Fantastic Four are going to be in the video game.

[wesker]

Did we ever have a confirmation of this? It just seems kind of odd, since the Fantastic Four are going to be in the video game.

I'm sure Lego has the rights to everything Marvel/Disney own. The press release from when the line was first announced only mentions the brands they were focusing the first wave on. Note it mentions the Avengers movie (not MCU or Iron Man 3) and Spider-Man comics (not show)

http://www.stitchkin...oes-2012-17025/

Two of the world’s most iconic brands are joining forces as The LEGO Group, world leader in high quality construction toys, and Marvel Entertainment, LLC, a global character -based entertainment company, announced a wide ranging strategic licensing deal. Through the multi-year agreement starting as of January 1st, 2012, Marvel has granted LEGO Group the rights to develop a distinct Marvel branded construction toy collection — LEGO SUPER HEROES — which will bring the characters, vehicles and action of Marvel’s renowned universe to the world of LEGO® build-and-play adventure. The LEGO SUPER HEROES Marvel collection’s initial construction sets, minifigures and buildable characters are scheduled to launch in May of 2012.

The LEGO SUPER HEROES Marvel collection will spotlight three Marvel franchises – Marvel’s The Avengers movie, and X-Men and Spider-Man classic characters. The LEGO Marvel’s The Avengers movie line brings such ever popular Marvel characters as Iron Man, The Hulk, Captain America, Thor, Hawkeye, Loki and Black Widow to LEGO minifigure form. The LEGO X-Men collection includes minifigure comic versions of Wolverine, Magneto, Nick Fury and Deadpool, while the LEGO Spider-Man sets offer minifigure comic versions of Spider-Man, and Doctor Octopus. The first buildable characters in the LEGO SUPER HEROES collection are highlighted by Captain America, The Hulk and Iron Man. Select figures will be unveiled in the LEGO booth (#2829) during Comic-Con International at the San Diego Convention Center July 21-24.

“Our partnership with Marvel helps us continue to deliver some of the best and most constructible Super Hero stories of all time,” said Jill Wilfert, vice president, licensing and entertainment for The LEGO Group. “We’re thrilled to partner with Marvel to create creative, constructive play sets for builders, fans and collectors alike.”

Joann Mclaughlin, Executive Vice President Toys & Hardlines, Marvel Entertainment, commented, “The partnership with LEGO Group furthers Marvel’s strategy to align our brand with the best in class leaders across various industries who have the global marketing expertise and distribution clout to stand out in the retail environment. This deal solidifies the already robust presence of our characters and the overall Marvel brand in the ever important toy category.”

The retail debut of the Marvel-inspired LEGO SUPER HEROES collection is timed to coincide with the highly anticipated Summer 2012 blockbuster movie release of Marvel Studios and Walt Disney Pictures feature film Marvel’s The Avengers.

[CorneliusMurdock]

I think it might be better for the two of you to agree to disagree at this point, Omi and NTF.

I think we all pretty much hope that TLG will realize that their consumers want them to branch out with different characters in the future. Whether they have to restructure their current business model to do so remains to be seen.

Overall, I think we've got a good start for the Marvel side and I think they have many directions they could go with in the future.

For DC, though, we need more than Batman rehashes. Even if we got a set with Batgirl and/or Nightwing next year, we need some Justice League players as well. I've waited longer than I ever expected to for an affordable Green Lantern. Seriously, TLG, I don't care which Lantern you give us at this point, just give us one.

[Omicron]

I've waited longer than I ever expected to for an affordable Green Lantern. Seriously, TLG, I don't care which Lantern you give us at this point, just give us one.

There is always the custom route, if you're into that. I can refer to you a few good customs. :P

-Omi

[CorneliusMurdock]

There is always the custom route, if you're into that. I can refer to you a few good customs. :P

-Omi

I don't intend on buying a finished one, though I'm sure there are some good ones out there if I'm willing to pay. I plan on trying my hand at decaling soon. If I get good enough at it, I may look into getting a good decal for a Lantern or two.

I'd rather that TLG recognizes that fans want an official fig and only have to fill out supporting cast myself as necessary. I can accept that TLG will never make an official set of Wonder Twins but I do expect a Lantern or two. And Flash.

[Another Brick In The Wall]

I think the reason we aren't getting FF sets and the like is that unlike DC, who gave them everything, Marvel only gave TLG the rights to:

Make X-men comic sets.

Make Ultimate Spider-Man sets.

Make MCU sets.

and that's it. X-men are the only ones who get comic sets.

False.

Fox has a non-exclusive license to make FF motion pictures and associated merchandise. The lego deal is separate.

There are no FF sets for the same reason there are no Green Lantern, Flash, Shazam, Black Panther, Cyclops, Punisher sets.

Edited June 26, 2013 by Another Brick In The Wall

[Omicron]

Fox has a non-exclusive license to make FF motion pictures and associated merchandise. The lego deal is separate.

Fox actually owns the movie rights to FF. Marvel/Disney cannot make a Fantastic Four movie at all.

-Omi

[Another Brick In The Wall]

Fox actually owns the movie rights to FF. Marvel/Disney cannot make a Fantastic Four movie at all.

-Omi

So what did i say?

[Omicron]

So what did i say?

Non-exclusive.

What Fox has is exclusive to them. :P

-Omi

[Another Brick In The Wall]

Non-exclusive.

What Fox has is exclusive to them. :P

-Omi

Fox has a non-exclusive license with respect to the FF intellectual property. If Fox had an exclusive license with respect to the FF IP, FF characters couldn't appear in other media. Fox's rights are limited to making motion pictures, hence why it is non-exclusive. Non-exclusive in IP law means limited.

Edited June 27, 2013 by Another Brick In The Wall

[Omicron]

Fox has a non-exclusive license with respect to the FF intellectual property. If Fox had an exclusive license with respect to the FF IP, FF characters couldn't appear in other media. Fox's rights are limited to making motion pictures, hence why it is non-exclusive. Non-exclusive in IP law means limited.

You're misconstruing what I am saying. Fox has exclusive movie rights. They own that media. It's theirs, and has been since the 80s.

-Omi

[eldiano]

But what I don't get if Fox owns everything, why would the marvel video game have lego versions of them?

[Omicron]

But what I don't get if Fox owns everything, why would the marvel video game have lego versions of them?

Just the movie rights. Marvel has everything else, including video games. The only main issue Marvel really had with a character in video games was the Hulk in Marvel Ultimate Alliance (he was left out initially but was later added as DLC for 360), which at the time Universal had rights to the Hulk for movie and game.

-Omi

[Navy Trooper Fenson]

I think they will have a new super hero set at comic con since the ewok village was already revealed. Hopefully it will be the x-men stealth jet.

Besides that we already have the maximum of S@H sets for this year announced and the earliest time to get to know S@H sets for next year would be around October, LEGO never announced a S@H exclusive at Comic-Con. Or any set at all beside the Rancor Pit and Hobbit set last year and the TIE Fighter the year before.

We will probably get the figs for the Winter wave sets like the last two years, no more no less.

We can still techically get the FF characters. We already have Doctor Doom as a Minifigure and The Thing just appeared in most recent Ultimate Spider-Man episode. So just because we most likely wont get FF sets, we still get the characters as a compromise.

Implying it makes a difference if they are parted out or sold as a single set.

If we don´t get them in a tie-in set for the 2015 reboot film it will probably never happen anyway. For casuals and children the Fantastic Four are probably the least interesting heroes, I can only see them do a comic based set when the movie is in cinema and even then I would find it weird of them to do it as the Thing needs a whole new body (supposing LEGO doesn´t see that they could just do molds for a regular LEGO fig only bigger and use that for every somewhat bigger characters that may come up instead of doing highly specialized molds for every single giant), Human Torch would have to be two figures (flame on and off mode) which is very rare in todays sets to see the same named character twice in a kit even with different costumes and I have no idea how they could do Reed Richards with his deformable body since that would require new parts that can barely be posed differently.

I was under the impression, like many were, that Lego would be branching out into the comics and others heroes, and not just focusing on just Batman for 2 years and the MCU (which BTW doesn't include Fantastic Four and X-Men) and Spiderman show. They said so in the press release.

I don't understand why you are so defiant of me hoping Lego would branch out.

-Omi

I said they will probably branch out in 2015 because of contracts or whatever is keeping them from doing it.

Or how well does the Super Heroes line do? The line went from S@H exclusive in Germany for 2012 to available everywhere this year (in relation, the last waves of Spider-Man and Batman became also S@H exclusive because the first sets were shelf-warmers). There is a yearly promo fig like with the Star Wars line. It seems like the line is going very well. Either LEGO is forced to the six sets limit by the contract or were planning the sets too far in advance that their first chance to adapt to the popularity is in 2014 or 2015.

I don't intend on buying a finished one, though I'm sure there are some good ones out there if I'm willing to pay. I plan on trying my hand at decaling soon. If I get good enough at it, I may look into getting a good decal for a Lantern or two.

I'd rather that TLG recognizes that fans want an official fig and only have to fill out supporting cast myself as necessary. I can accept that TLG will never make an official set of Wonder Twins but I do expect a Lantern or two. And Flash.

This, so much.

Main characters are a must and characters that aren´t easy to make without modifications or new pieces like Power Armor Lex and big figs should be a priority.

False.

Fox has a non-exclusive license to make FF motion pictures and associated merchandise. The lego deal is separate.

There are no FF sets for the same reason there are no Green Lantern, Flash, Shazam, Black Panther, Cyclops, Punisher sets.

LEGO can make sets based on everything except the movie versions of Spider-Man, X-Men, Fantastic Four and all the movies that came before and were made by a different company than Disney (for example all Hulk films and the MCU films before Avengers).

Also LEGO can make sets based on all DC movies as DC and WB are part of the same company and had no rights sold to other people, which would mean they could do Green Lantern, Flash and Shazam sets if the last two had actually movies made about them and Green Lantern would have been a success.