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I just can't understand how someone would think this film is 'awful', unless they didn't like Lord of the Rings in the first place. I can understand it not being some people's cup of tea, but I tend to think that those who think The Hobbit is awful has no clue what an awful film really is.

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Well, most of the family found lord of the rings cheesy at most parts. They love the Hobbit books and lotr books, as do I. Im pretty sure they can tell if some movies are awful. Well not all of them disliked it. My sister said she enjoyed it, but also said it wasn't very interesting. She wouldn't mind watching it again.

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I went and saw The Hobbit for a third time last weekend in HFR. It was definitely better. It's really hard to explain how it was better, I can say that the CG was clearer and it just looked better in general.

Well, most of the family found lord of the rings cheesy at most parts. They love the Hobbit books and lotr books, as do I. Im pretty sure they can tell if some movies are awful. Well not all of them disliked it. My sister said she enjoyed it, but also said it wasn't very interesting. She wouldn't mind watching it again.

No offense to you or your family, but you have a strange family. :tongue:

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I went and saw The Hobbit for a third time last weekend in HFR. It was definitely better. It's really hard to explain how it was better, I can say that the CG was clearer and it just looked better in general.

No offense to you or your family, but you have a strange family. :tongue:

No offense taken. I really do have a strange family, and I dont really know how to explain it all.

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Oops, I'm a bit late here. I saw The Hobbit Boxing Day last year (when it came out in Australia), and I thought it was quite good. I didn't really notice any difference with the 48 FPS.

As with The Lord of the Rings, I thought the changes (primarily the inclusion of Galadriel, the introduction with Frodo and Bilbo writing in his book) worked well.

Am I crazy, or did they use the Nazgûl theme...

...when Thorin charges at Azog in the last few scenes?

I wanted to compare themes from the original Trilogy to reprised music in The Hobbit, but I can't seem to find this one anywhere. I'm almost certain that was in the film. :wacko:

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Am I crazy, or did they use the Nazgûl theme...

...when Thorin charges at Azog in the last few scenes?

I wanted to compare themes from the original Trilogy to reprised music in The Hobbit, but I can't seem to find this one anywhere. I'm almost certain that was in the film. :wacko:

Yes it was. Other scores, such as 'Concerning Hobbits' and 'The One Ring' where in the Hobbit, but they made sense. The Nazgûl theme would have made more sense in Dol Gudour.

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I liked the movie a lot. Im usually a stickler for faithful adaptations, and thus rarely satisfied, but in this case I think PJ did a great job with his adaptation. Maybe apart from the Azog arc, which I thought redundant, but even that wasnt too bad. My other gripes are making Saruman into a pompous fool, and making the goblins a pretty pathetic threat.

As for the "long" intro, I actually expected more backstory, such as the Dwarves being driven out of Moria by the Balrog and out of the Grey Mountains by dragons, something about Dain of the Iron Hills and the rise of Sauron...

Otherwise, the visuals of "Middle Earth" were stunning, the appendices were worked in very well, and I had no issues with the pacing - I wouldnt have minded staying there an hour longer!

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As for the "long" intro, I actually expected more backstory, such as the Dwarves being driven out of Moria by the Balrog and out of the Grey Mountains by dragons, something about Dain of the Iron Hills and the rise of Sauron...

Then you've got some stuff to expect from the next films.

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Yes it was. Other scores, such as 'Concerning Hobbits' and 'The One Ring' where in the Hobbit, but they made sense. The Nazgûl theme would have made more sense in Dol Gudour.

Yeah. As I've said before, I applauded a lot of the music they brought back. A lot of it helped with foreshadowing to those who knew the films (like the use of the Nature theme and Lothlorien). But that instance made no sense at all.

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Yes it was. Other scores, such as 'Concerning Hobbits' and 'The One Ring' where in the Hobbit, but they made sense. The Nazgûl theme would have made more sense in Dol Gudour.

Ah, good. I'm still sane. :classic:

The music of The Lord of the Rings was great because it had instantly-recognisable themes and motifs, usually used for specific areas or groups of people. So bringing back those themes where they're most prominent in makes sense for familiarity. Same with the characters, too. But that particular use was weird, especially considering how it's pretty much the sole theme of the Ringwraiths (and I think Sauron, in the prologue).

On a similar topic, there seems to be a general complaint that there weren't any major themes in the film apart from the main theme, though I think that's just because there are few major characters introduced that can have a theme.

I remember distinctly that there was a theme that played whenever Wargs appeared, for example.

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On a similar topic, there seems to be a general complaint that there weren't any major themes in the film apart from the main theme, though I think that's just because there are few major characters introduced that can have a theme.

I remember distinctly that there was a theme that played whenever Wargs appeared, for example.

Exactly. A lot of the main groups (Rivendell, Lothlorien, Isengard, etc.) had their themes done up in the Lord of the Rings, and thus it's hard to work in new ones. I do believe the Radagast had his own theme, though, and I wouldn't be surprised if Beorn, the Mirkwood Elves, Lake-Town and Smaug receive theme work in the next two movies.

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I see that this tidbit of information has yet to be posted here:

There and Back Again has had its release date pushed back to December 2014 (the 17th of December if I remember correctly). Also, I wonder what UK store will supply the triple-pack with the exclusive Bilbo Baggins minifigure.

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Also, I wonder what UK store will supply the triple-pack with the exclusive Bilbo Baggins minifigure.

Barnes and Noble, maybe? Worse comes to worst you could just get it shipped from 'Murica or someplace online.

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I just got the Hobbit soundtrack, and inside there's a brief run-through of a lot of the major themes. Suffice to say, there's more than the casual listener might pick up the first time through.

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8 months, 7 pages and nobody really discussed the original subject of the topic :laugh:

I'll be blunt: do you think Fili & Kili will die at the battle of the five armies.

Knowing Peter Jackson, their survival is plausible. After all, Azog lives, and in his LOTR movies Haldir dies.

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I'll be disappointed if they do. There was reasoning for both Azog living and Haldir dying. (They needed a main villain for the first movie, and I guess they didn't want any leftover elves at Helm's Deep. :laugh: ) Fili and Kili dying would really add a deeper feel to the movie.

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They'll die. Hope we aren't spoiling it for people though. :/ Azog (sp?) hasn't died yet but I bet he does at the battle of five armies. Haldir was already way outside of his place in the books. Considering his presence at Helmsdeep, I don't find it surprising he died. Plus, he was not really a significant character in the books. Changing Fili and Kili's fate would be taking a much greater liberty in my opinion. I'm just glad I won't be seeing that wretched goblin king in the rest of the trilogy.

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