LOTR & The Hobbit 2013 Set Discussion

[legofreak86]

I'm thinking more along the lines of Thranduil's Halls, the vast subterranean kingdom of the Mirkwood Elves. Include Azog and some orcs, and you've got yourself the flagship set of the wave, or at least the second biggest set.

I really hope the smallest set has something to do with Radagast, but they could also do Gandalf's fight with an insane Thrain.

On the contrary I think Dol Guldur would be quite a large set considering what McCoy has said happens there in book two involving our dear friend the necromancer and all of the wizards.... I also read empire's big bit on dos and apparently the final action bit towards the end of the film is the largest action set piece pj has ever attempted (according to Fran Walsh). Involving fire, artillery, dwarves and "one really pissed off dragon". Jackson said because in the book the dwarves never had a definitive final showdown with their dragon nemesis and he always felt that was lacking. He said he has fixed that as mentioned above and it is spectacular! There will be a lot of lake town, elf kingdoms, orcs azog and his son and the necromancer confrontation. he said the 3rd film would be spectacular and involve a certain battle with an undeterminable number of armies. Read the interview he has some killer stuff planned. personally the main flagship set I reckon will be this final confrontation he talks of.

[Fives]

On the contrary I think Dol Guldur would be quite a large set considering what McCoy has said happens there in book two involving our dear friend the necromancer and all of the wizards.... I also read empire's big bit on dos and apparently the final action bit towards the end of the film is the largest action set piece pj has ever attempted (according to Fran Walsh). Involving fire, artillery, dwarves and "one really pissed off dragon". Jackson said because in the book the dwarves never had a definitive final showdown with their dragon nemesis and he always felt that was lacking. He said he has fixed that as mentioned above and it is spectacular! There will be a lot of lake town, elf kingdoms, orcs azog and his son and the necromancer confrontation. he said the 3rd film would be spectacular and involve a certain battle with an undeterminable number of armies. Read the interview he has some killer stuff planned. personally the main flagship set I reckon will be this final confrontation he talks of.

From what you say, LEGO may have a tough time covering it all with 6 sets. I hope this wave is bigger, maybe 8 sets, so they can really do justice to everything.

However, I doubt we'll get any sort of look at LEGO Smaug at Comic-Con. With PJ and Warner Bros working hard to keep him under wraps (we have seen his head, but that's it), I doubt they would allow LEGO to reveal their Smaug. It'd be like the early action figure release of Tauriel. Kinda spoiled the anticipation and surprise of her character.

Honestly, I'd be happy to just see new figs at Comic-Con. Give me pics of Azog, Thranduil and Bard, and I'm good.

[deskp]

From what you say, LEGO may have a tough time covering it all with 6 sets. I hope this wave is bigger, maybe 8 sets, so they can really do justice to everything.

However, I doubt we'll get any sort of look at LEGO Smaug at Comic-Con. With PJ and Warner Bros working hard to keep him under wraps (we have seen his head, but that's it), I doubt they would allow LEGO to reveal their Smaug. It'd be like the early action figure release of Tauriel. Kinda spoiled the anticipation and surprise of her character.

Honestly, I'd be happy to just see new figs at Comic-Con. Give me pics of Azog, Thranduil and Bard, and I'm good.

We also saw his legs and tail.

My most wanted minifigs:

1 Thranduil

2 Bolg

3 Radagast

[Fives]

I just rewatched the new DOS video blog, and there is a shot with some Elf extras with one handed Elven blades. Does anyone think that we could be in for a new Elf sword with these new sets?

[deskp]

I just rewatched the new DOS video blog, and there is a shot with some Elf extras with one handed Elven blades. Does anyone think that we could be in for a new Elf sword with these new sets?

I really hope so, the current one has been a waste, it's not been appropriate in any of the sets it's been in. And why on earth is it gold..

I have a feeling lego won't bother with a new one though.

Edited July 11, 2013 by deskp

[Fives]

I really hope so, the current one has been a waste, it's not been appropriate in any of the sets it's been in. And why on earth is it gold..

I have a feeling lego won't bother with a new one though.

Unless they used it as Orcrist as well. A single handed silver Elf sword would be perfect.

[deskp]

Unless they used it as Orcrist as well. A single handed silver Elf sword would be perfect.

Oh yes, the new sword really looks related to Orcrist in design. I really hope lego Nails the mirkwood elf army when time comes for them to make those. It would be really good to see new unique breastplates and helmets.

[Fives]

Oh yes, the new sword really looks related to Orcrist in design. I really hope lego Nails the mirkwood elf army when time comes for them to make those. It would be really good to see new unique breastplates and helmets.

I think any armour will be printed (Haldir is an example of that), but new helmets are definitely needed. I really hope that the DOS wave has some sort of army builder, be it for Elves, Dalemen, or orcs. Maybe this wave can focus on Elf army building potential, and the TABA wave can be for Dwarves and Dalemen.

That's another thing I can't wait for: Dwarf warriors. Generic Dwarf soldiers in the fantastic armour seen in the prologue of AUJ.

[deskp]

I think any armour will be printed (Haldir is an example of that), but new helmets are definitely needed. I really hope that the DOS wave has some sort of army builder, be it for Elves, Dalemen, or orcs. Maybe this wave can focus on Elf army building potential, and the TABA wave can be for Dwarves and Dalemen.

I don't think the army elves will be in DOS though. But their breastplate in the movie is solid one piece, unlike the Haldir wich is multiple parts. I too think they will be printed, but imagine the gloriousness of a new mold.

New helmet, new sword, and molded breastplate, they'd be a cool as the uruk hai!

[Fives]

I don't think the army elves will be in DOS though. But their breastplate in the movie is solid one piece, unlike the Haldir wich is multiple parts. I too think they will be printed, but imagine the gloriousness of a new mold.

New helmet, new sword, and molded breastplate, they'd be a cool as the uruk hai!

Absolutely! I've always felt like Elves are the only real army who could defeat Uruk-hai in an open field of battle. That's why Elves decked out at the same level as the Uruks would be flippin great!

[TheLegoDr]

I am excited to see what we may get. But I will constantly hope for some sort of army builder at a reasonable price. Uruk-Hai army was great, but a tad expensive for an impulse purchase. Now a battle pack of sorts like the SW sets, they'd be sold out all the time. Four figures for 12.99$... Especially if they were elf related.

Time will tell...

[Fives]

I am excited to see what we may get. But I will constantly hope for some sort of army builder at a reasonable price. Uruk-Hai army was great, but a tad expensive for an impulse purchase. Now a battle pack of sorts like the SW sets, they'd be sold out all the time. Four figures for 12.99$... Especially if they were elf related.

Time will tell...

Like I have said many times before (along with many others), LEGO would be silly to not release reasonably priced army builder sets. Uruk-Hai Army was an amazing set, and I bought 7 of them, but while the price was ok, I really hate the fact that I have 7 Isengard ballistas that I have no use for. Those bricks could have so easily be substituted for a couple Elven warriors, a Uruk Berserker, and another Uruk swordsman.

But, alas, that did not happen. I believe that LEGO fully understands the immense army building potential that LOTR has, and that plenty of fans would buy battle packs like crazy. I just believe that they haven't had the courage to make small sets with generic figures. Every $12.99 set we've gotten has had two main characters, because LEGO seems to be playing it safe with easily recognizable scenes that any LOTR fan, AFOL or not, can look at and think 'Hey, that would look great on my desk', or something. Plus, look at how long it took SW to get battle packs. LEGO SW had been around for nearly a decade before the battle packs started. I'm not saying that we won't see BPs, but I think LEGO is more likely to do BPs for non-licensed themes, or themes that have had the time to prove themselves as successful.

Then again, they had that strange POTC battle pack, although it had mostly main characters.

[legofreak86]

From what you say, LEGO may have a tough time covering it all with 6 sets. I hope this wave is bigger, maybe 8 sets, so they can really do justice to everything.

However, I doubt we'll get any sort of look at LEGO Smaug at Comic-Con. With PJ and Warner Bros working hard to keep him under wraps (we have seen his head, but that's it), I doubt they would allow LEGO to reveal their Smaug. It'd be like the early action figure release of Tauriel. Kinda spoiled the anticipation and surprise of her character.

Honestly, I'd be happy to just see new figs at Comic-Con. Give me pics of Azog, Thranduil and Bard, and I'm good.

Yeah 8 is probably best! The biggest ones probably being: Dol Guldur and this huge epic showdown pj has mentioned.

We also saw his legs and tail.

My most wanted minifigs:

1 Thranduil

2 Bolg

3 Radagast

If we don't get azog this time it will be such a shame! He looks to be a key part of the hobbit franchise. I reckon we'll see: azog and bolg, some orcs, radagast, Gandalf(yet again), Bilbo (blue jacket from dos trailer or maybe red but with webs). The dwarves in different costumes to unexpected journey, elves and thrandruil, The necromancer and bard as he seems to have a larger part than just the book says judging by the video blog of peter Jackson for the film.

Edited July 11, 2013 by legofreak86

[Fives]

Yeah 8 is probably best! The biggest ones probably being: Dol Guldur and this huge epic showdown pj has mentioned.

If we don't get azog this time it will be such a shame! He looks to be a key part of the hobbit franchise. I reckon we'll see: azog and bolg, some orcs, radagast, Gandalf(yet again), Bilbo (blue jacket from dos trailer or maybe red but with webs). The dwarves in different costumes to unexpected journey, elves and thrandruil, The necromancer and bard as he seems to have a larger part than just the book says judging by the video blog of peter Jackson for the film.

I would gladly forgo new versions of the Dwarves and instead get more new characters. It would be ridiculous for LEGO to try to fit all 13 Dwarves into one wave again. Much like the second LOTR wave, LEGO needs to focus on the secondary characters who get major screen time in DOS.

[Artanis I]

I hope nothing or very little is revealed at Comic Con, the sets won't be out for another 4-5 months anyway.

[Leo604]

I hope nothing or very little is revealed at Comic Con, the sets won't be out for another 4-5 months anyway.

At least we'll have something concrete to discuss here, albeit for 4-5 months.

[Darth Caedus]

I hope nothing or very little is revealed at Comic Con, the sets won't be out for another 4-5 months anyway.

Why would you hope that? It'd be much better if we knew what was coming well ahead of time. All the better to plan purchases in advance, and to get an idea of what's to come in future waves.

[Deathleech]

Why would you hope that? It'd be much better if we knew what was coming well ahead of time. All the better to plan purchases in advance, and to get an idea of what's to come in future waves.

Exactly! I want to know what's coming ASAP so I can start saving my money and planning my purchases. The first LotR wave and the second were roughly similar in price for the entire waves, but I will be spending WAY more on the first due to the sets that better lend themselves to repeat buys like the Orc Forge and Uruk-hai Army.

Plus the history forums have been pretty dead lately. It will be nice to have something new to talk about and stir up some conversation. Sure it will suck seeing the new sets and having to wait so long for them, but the price is worth it.

[Artanis I]

At least we'll have something concrete to discuss here, albeit for 4-5 months.

Why would you hope that? It'd be much better if we knew what was coming well ahead of time. All the better to plan purchases in advance, and to get an idea of what's to come in future waves.

1, 2 maybe 3 months I'm okay with, but 4-5 months (especially for a movie that isn't released yet) is too long. Also, some places haven't seen the newly released TLOTR sets yet. Surely we can still talk about those? The earlier that things are revealed, the less patient I get to build them. We saw the new Castle sets way back in January or February, they aren't out here until September. I hate that. My Fantasy Era dragons are still out waiting to be photographed next to the new one.

I know I'm most likely going to be buying the whole lot anyway, the only question for me is "when?". You can plan ahead for purchases after they've been released too. It's the extended wait until release that I don't like. A few months is fine for me, but 4 is too long, by the time it's out it's old news and I know it back to front already. Make sense?

[Leo604]

Well in that case I suppose you could just avoid this thread for a month or so, but I do kind of see your point. Plus I get the feeling we've exhausted talk on just about everything in the second LOTR wave with the possible exception of Orthanc.

[N7LEGO]

^{For the next Hobbit wave, I dream about a Lake-Town in the Medieval Market Village style for the big set and a Radagast with his rabbit sled for the smallest set.}

Edited July 12, 2013 by N7LEGO

[Almaras22]

^{For the next Hobbit wave, I dream about a Lake-Town in the Medieval Market Village style for the big set and a Radagast with his rabbit sled for the smallest set.}

A large laketown set with Smaug would be fantastic! I would love to see more elves too.

[Eurolock]

As much as I would love to see 8 DOS sets....I suspect it is rather unlikely.

What we will get largely depends upon how quickly Lego has been able to react to the switch to 3 films. I think it is relatively safe to say that because we already have the 'Barrels' set already that there wouldn't (originally) have been any plans in place for Beorn's house or Thranduil's halls (since these locations would have been in AUJ). However, since some of the sets/ideas originally planned for film2 will now appear in film3, I suspect there may be some 'back-filling' required to flesh out the DOS line - which might bring these previously overlooked locations back into play.

With regards the 'flagship' set - I would be very surprised if that wasn't either a Smaug/Bilbo/Erebor set-up or a Smaug/Bard/Laketown set-up. Smaug's was always going to be a major component of Film2 (back in the original 2 movie plan) and so Lego would definitely have some sort of plan.......presumably with laketown because of the 'action' that takes place there. The only question really is whether the laketown attack is now in DOS or TABA. If it is in TABA then presumably Smaug/Erebor is the most likely big set....

As for Dol-Guldor, again it seems likely that Lego had some plans in place for this already and it is clear that this location does feature in DOS. i suspect however that any plans that were in place probably originally centred around the White Council/Sauron showdown.....which I suspect may also now be part of TABA.

[BlueberryWaffles]

8 sets guys? After the latest LOTR wave, I expect 4 sets. I think the Laketown-Smaug thing is in TABA, and the finale is at Dol Guldor.

So:

small set- Radagast's bunny sled?

small-medium set- Thranduil's hall with Azog

big-medium set- Beorn's Hall ^ (these two could be switched around)

flagship- Dol Guldor battle with falling walls and catapults and cranes and missiles and rolling boulders and................................................I think I'll go sit down.

[Fives]

The second film is called THE DESOLATION OF SMAUG! This refers directly to his attack on Laketown. The film will end with Smaug getting killed.

And it's been over a year (at least its felt like it) since PJ announced the trilogy, so LEGO, if they were smart in reacting, should have made quick arrangements for new sets.