Darth Punk Posted December 18, 2013 Posted December 18, 2013 There was a huge battle at Dol Guldar, a boat chase across Laketown and an elf-flinging catapult in the book? Apparently in the book Peter jackson read. Quote
Alcarin Posted December 18, 2013 Posted December 18, 2013 The Sad part about the sets is that once all were revealed Lake-Town Chase looks the best and when it was first revealed I thought it will be the WORST! ..... How disappointing .... Not sure if i even want to see the movie lol all the mixed reviews and tons of unneeded material.... Quote
Dr.Cogg Posted December 18, 2013 Posted December 18, 2013 (edited) To me it seems like Dol Guldur battle was meant for the first wave ( because it matches more with what Radagast saw at Dol Guldur) , then PJ split the 2 movies into 3 movie and they pushed the set to D O S and added some Gundabad Orcs. Edited December 19, 2013 by Dr.Cogg Quote
Leo604 Posted December 18, 2013 Posted December 18, 2013 The Sad part about the sets is that once all were revealed Lake-Town Chase looks the best and when it was first revealed I thought it will be the WORST! ..... How disappointing .... Not sure if i even want to see the movie lol all the mixed reviews and tons of unneeded material.... Then don't see it. Quote
Darth Caedus Posted December 18, 2013 Posted December 18, 2013 The Sad part about the sets is that once all were revealed Lake-Town Chase looks the best and when it was first revealed I thought it will be the WORST! ..... How disappointing .... Not sure if i even want to see the movie lol all the mixed reviews and tons of unneeded material.... See the movie, don't believe the haters. It's great, sure they go off the rails but it's been over the top since Goblintown. Enjoy the ride. There's a lot of cool little canon nuggets in there. Ered Luin. Rhudaur. More references to the Nauglamir. And all the new characters are excellent - Bard plays it perfectly, as does Thranduil. Quote
Flieger Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 I have been a fan of all the last Tolkien-themed waves, but this one is just a let-down for me. Maybe it changes when I see the movie (Friday), but so far there is very little appeal to me. Only the brown warg is cute, but then I love wargs - so it is a must-buy anyway. Foremost I miss a low priced two figure set like "Riddles" or the excellent "Wizard Battle". Since there are so many dwarves and collecting them is very expansive, such a set would have come in handy. I have a large Lego budget but at times these little sets are what I need. Quote
Ultron Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 (edited) The Sad part about the sets is that once all were revealed Lake-Town Chase looks the best and when it was first revealed I thought it will be the WORST! ..... How disappointing .... Not sure if i even want to see the movie lol all the mixed reviews and tons of unneeded material.... I'd say see it, but set your expectations very very low. The last movie I saw before DoS was catching fire which was unbelievably accurate so my expectations were set extremely high which led to me being sorely let down because of how far DoS strayed from the real story. I approved of many changes peter jackson made with the lotr movies but a lot of the choices in this movie were very unnecessary. Try and pretend it's not based on a book at all and you might end up liking it more than I did. Now this sounds very negative and probably doesn't lighten your hopes any, but I did really really enjoy what little there was of mirkwood and smaug is just truly magnificent. So I think you should see it and decide for yourself if you like it or not. Edited December 19, 2013 by Luna Lovegood Quote
Alcarin Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 I'd say see it, but set your expectations very very low. The last movie I saw before DoS was catching fire which was unbelievably accurate so my expectations were set extremely high which led to me being sorely let down because of how far DoS strayed from the real story. I approved of many changes peter jackson made with the lotr movies but a lot of the choices in this movie were very unnecessary. Try and pretend it's not based on a book at all and you might end up liking it more than I did. Now this sounds very negative and probably doesn't lighten your hopes any, but I did really really enjoy what little there was of mirkwood and smaug is just truly magnificent. So I think you should see it and decide for yourself if you like it or not. Dont you love the Goblin King talking and getting chopped down... how juvenile he was.... Ill go see it anyway because we already bought tickets for Monday.... LOTR changes were ok, even if i did not like many of them (give me Glorfindel!) I could see them reasonable for most parts.... ok except the damn undead saving Minas Tirith.... that was too much and kinda screwed the third part for me.... We shall see on Monday... Quote
Dragonfire Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 I was at Hamleys in London yesterday and there was a massive display of all the new Hobbit sets (fully built). DGA and DGB were connected and the figures mixed (all the orcs were grouped together with Azog in front, attacking the good guys. The sets themselves were overpriced though- DGA was £26, MEA was £40 and LTC was £65. DGB was already sold out. Quote
TheBrickDaddy Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 I'd say see it, but set your expectations very very low. The last movie I saw before DoS was catching fire which was unbelievably accurate so my expectations were set extremely high which led to me being sorely let down because of how far DoS strayed from the real story. I approved of many changes peter jackson made with the lotr movies but a lot of the choices in this movie were very unnecessary. Try and pretend it's not based on a book at all and you might end up liking it more than I did. Now this sounds very negative and probably doesn't lighten your hopes any, but I did really really enjoy what little there was of mirkwood and smaug is just truly magnificent. So I think you should see it and decide for yourself if you like it or not. Smaug was absolutely incredible. Hands down the best dragon ever put to film. Cumberbatch as Smaug and the Erebor set pieces are worth the ticket price alone. I happened to love the rest of the film- Bard and Thranduil were highlights for me- despite that it sometimes strayed into cartoony antics and, of course, away from the source material. But it was enjoyable and certainly not bad! Well, bad meaning not as slow-moving as the first one Plus, critics are much more friendly toward this one than the first, if that helps sway anyone. As far as that relates to the sets, I think it's an absolute shame that there were no Smaug or Erebor-inclusive sets in this wave, because that was by far the best part of the film. Does anyone else think it's strange that there were only four sets in this wave? Not sure if this has been addressed before, but I suspect that it's missing the smallest and largest sets in the wave, and I have a feeling that the largest set would have been the battle with Smaug. Perhaps Lego didn't do the design exactly right and pulled it? Or since Smaug will still be in the second film, perhaps they moved it to the next line-up? Quote
TheLegoDr Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 ^I haven't seen the movie yet, but I'm glad there are changes to the source material because that book was dreadful..I could hardly make it through it was so boring. The movies are at least incorporating some action and suspense. Granted, it does seem the CGI is lackluster, which is odd this day and age. Maybe some of the actors are getting paid too high compared to the animators? The Lake-town guard is slowly cropping up in TRUs I guess. I still haven't found one near me, but in another town (~3 hours away) they mentioned they had some. So I'm assuming soon, they may come here. Either way, I ended up just ordering them online since they are back in stock there to guarantee I don't miss out again. These are way better than the Mirkwood Elf polybag. Now I wonder if I can find the Legolas poly for a reasonable price... Quote
Blakstone Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 I liked the Mirkwood Elf Guard polybag more just because of the bricks that came with it. Still the Mirkwood Elf Army (which I bought today) makes my 10 elf polybags seem overwhelming. The helmet of the Laketown Guard is great and it is very easy to swap out faces with other licensed minifigs to make them look like unique people. Quote
Deathleech Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 I liked the Mirkwood Elf Guard polybag more just because of the bricks that came with it. Still the Mirkwood Elf Army (which I bought today) makes my 10 elf polybags seem overwhelming. I feel the same. The Laketown Guard polybag had brick pieces that were kinda meh imo. Nothing terribly useful but the minifigure was fantastic! The Mirkwood Elf poly had better bricks but I really regret getting the 20 I bought. Had I known Lego was doing the Mirkwood Elf Army set I would of gotten maybe 5-10 of the polybags tops. The MEA elves look so much better imo than the polybag version. They look really good with the dark green capes especially. Now I just hope next year there isn't a better Laketown Guard minifigure making all of them I bought this year seem like a colossal waste. Quote
MikeyB Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Lake Town guard polybags are back available online at Toys r us. Limit 4 per order. http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=28737556&csm=514978891&csc=3125498&csa=522594531&csu=3125500 havent seen it at my local Toys r Us yet and been checking about every other day. I got four online but plan on picking up a couple more if I can find them in the store. Mikey Quote
Gryphon Ink Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 I'd say see it, but set your expectations very very low. The last movie I saw before DoS was catching fire which was unbelievably accurate so my expectations were set extremely high which led to me being sorely let down because of how far DoS strayed from the real story. I approved of many changes peter jackson made with the lotr movies but a lot of the choices in this movie were very unnecessary. Try and pretend it's not based on a book at all and you might end up liking it more than I did. Now this sounds very negative and probably doesn't lighten your hopes any, but I did really really enjoy what little there was of mirkwood and smaug is just truly magnificent. So I think you should see it and decide for yourself if you like it or not. You're one of the very few people I've found who felt the same way as I did about this movie. I feel like there was a good movie in there, but I couldn't enjoy it at all because it was NOT the Hobbit. It was like the movie version of a well-written Middle-Earth fan-fic, complete with name-dropping obscure ancient kingdoms and the author writing himself into the story. If my emotional atachment to the Hobbit hadn't been so strong, I might have liked the movie a lot more. I do think the Lego sets are a lot better than some people are giving them credit for. I'm really pleased with this wave, especially considering the difficulties TLG was facing with two movies turning into three, characters changing appearance and turning into other characters, the high level of secrecy and the ongoing tinkering with set designs. I like the Dol Guldur design, the fact that it came as two separate sets and captures several different scenes, and the fact that it's not supersized and is therefore affordable. It could have had more levels and looked more like the complete fortress, but then it would have been significantly more expensive. As it is, it will look good on the shelf, my kids can play with it, and it has a really nice range of characters. The only significant characters we're still missing from the Hobbit movies are Bolg and Smaug, and I have no doubt that they're being saved for TABA. The same goes for the armored Elves who will undoubtedly show up in force at the Battle of Five Armies, and do more than stand around Thranduil's front gate. Quote
Deathleech Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 (edited) I like the Dol Guldur design, the fact that it came as two separate sets and captures several different scenes, and the fact that it's not supersized and is therefore affordable. It could have had more levels and looked more like the complete fortress, but then it would have been significantly more expensive. As it is, it will look good on the shelf, my kids can play with it, and it has a really nice range of characters. The only significant characters we're still missing from the Hobbit movies are Bolg and Smaug, and I have no doubt that they're being saved for TABA. The same goes for the armored Elves who will undoubtedly show up in force at the Battle of Five Armies, and do more than stand around Thranduil's front gate. I generally would agree with you, but this wave was just so small with only 4 sets. Add to that the biggest set is only $70 and the wave feels very unfinished and pathetically tiny. The first LotR wave had 7 sets and cost $373 total. The first Hobbit wave had 6 sets and cost $300 total. The second LotR wave had 4 sets and cost $203 total (5 sets and $403 if you include Orthanc as part of the wave). The second Hobbit wave? Only 4 sets which end up costing $170 total. That's almost half the LotR waves and a little over half what the second Hobbit wave had in terms of price. I think combining the DGA and DGB sets into one $90 set and then giving us another 13 or $20 set would of really helped round out the wave. Honestly though, I am not sure what they could of been made to fill this gap. It feels like other than Smaug Lego covered all the main scenes in the movie, or attempted to. Beorn's house was hardly featured in the film so I can't see them justifying making a Bag End style set out of it, and even if they did it would have to be pretty big at around $70-80 to do his house justice. Edited December 20, 2013 by Deathleech Quote
Doctor_ocks Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 They didn't miss the boat on smaug on all he has a huge scene in the next movie. Same thing goes with bear Beorn. You're right. Miss the boat was probably the wrong phrase to use. Quote
Durins Bane Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 yea i just purchased 40 lake town guards at my local tru. 50.00 off! Quote
Darth Caedus Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 yea i just purchased 40 lake town guards at my local tru. 50.00 off! Woah, what? How'd you get $50 off? Quote
The_Chosen_1 Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 ^ TRU has a $25 off $100 promotion going on right now for Lego. Quote
LegoThomas Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 yea i just purchased 40 lake town guards at my local tru. 50.00 off! Yeah. I just looked up on ebay. Minimum 20 usd for laketown guard poly plus shipping. What a shame. Why are they only available for selling in the u.s. ? Thanks lego. Quote
legomonk Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 My local TRU store in idaho has the lake town guard poly bag in. I bought 3 with the cash on hand. Quote
Alcarin Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 Yeah. I just looked up on ebay. Minimum 20 usd for laketown guard poly plus shipping. What a shame. Why are they only available for selling in the u.s. ? Thanks lego. A US fellow shipped 5 of them to me for 6.50$ ...... happy for that! Quote
Blazej_Holen Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 You´re lucky, pitty that I dont have some fellow like that :) But in here i can BL some of those soldiers for around 7-8 bucks each... Quote
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