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I choose to focus on what we are getting which is a cool playable set that is recognisable what it portrays.... We get Gandalf the White, Mouth of Sauron, Aragorn in Gondor printing and 2 armoured orcs plus a cool looking gate tower. I swear if Lego produced a gazzilion peice minifig scale black gate most of the people here would be like (homer simpson voice) "yeah it's cool and everything but too expensive, I think I'll just bricklink the figures"......

A play set is fine and I'll pick it up even if it ends up with a tiny molded eagle. But for the record, I'd readily embrace a Black Gate model on the order of a Taj Mahal set (i.e. big ('gazillion peice'), detailed, no mini-figures) and wouldn't quibble about the price so long as they kept it under the 15 cents/part threshold.

An 'accurate' minifigure scale Morannon Set (Black Gate with both Towers of the Teeth) would be out of the question, however. According to the books, the wall stood 60 feet tall and filled a mountain pass 250 feet wide. Each gate was 90 feet long and the Towers of the Teeth were each roughly 250 feet tall. At mini-figure scale that makes the wall roughly 50 bricks tall, 240 studs wide with towers 208 bricks tall. Even if you were to just build a flat wall (no gate, no towers, no surface detail) to that scale out of a single thickness of 2x4 brick, you're talking about 3000 bricks. If you want something that resembles the gate in the film and can open (with the help of some cave trolls on a curved rampart) you could easily need ten times that many bricks (as a starting estimate)

Clearly, the Numenorians weren't thinking about LEGO or mini-figure scale when they build these things...

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But for the record, I'd readily embrace a Black Gate model on the order of a Taj Mahal set (i.e. big ('gazillion peice'), detailed, no mini-figures) and wouldn't quibble about the price so long as they kept it under the 15 cents/part threshold.

As would I. It just frustrates me - not only here but in life generally- when others fail to focus on the good and get bogged down trying to focus on the negative. I mean who here up until these images were released thought we would get a Mouth of Sauron fig for example?

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Where we will be able to see sets?

I presume they will be uploaded on numerous lego websites, there will also be pictures put up on eurobricks from a few members over on here, I have a very strong feeling that it will be the palace cinema (at least there will be a designer video for it), I guess time will tell, I'm personally hoping or orthanc buti doubt it :-(

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I choose to focus on what we are getting which is a cool playable set that is recognisable what it portrays.... We get Gandalf the White, Mouth of Sauron, Aragorn in Gondor printing and 2 armoured orcs plus a cool looking gate tower. I swear if Lego produced a gazzilion peice minifig scale black gate most of the people here would be like (homer simpson voice) "yeah it's cool and everything but too expensive, I think I'll just bricklink the figures"......

As an AFOL who's loved Lego for 20 years+ I just want to give the Lego group a massive hug for producing LoTR in the first place instead of whinging about how they didn't include old Gloin in the council of Elrond :hmpf:

(end of old man rant) :wink:

A voice of reason. I think people should get a bit of a grip here. Better to have an official set we can mod than no set at all. Don't forget this is aimed at parents who in the current climate have less disposable income and kids who are saving money from their paper rounds. I have no doubt that with a limitless budget the designers would've made us something astonishing but they are working to increasingly tight margins with a higher call for minifigs which takes costs away from set design.

I think this will be a great wave, long may it continue.

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Tonight at about 5pm (I think In the US) a new lego set will be revealed by Kevin hinkle at brick fair , this will be about 11pm in the UK.

Here is the schedule at brick fair: http://www.brickfair.com/images/events/9/ScheduleOfEvents.jpg

The safe bet is that set revealed will be the new Modular Building, the Palace Theater. The leaked pics from that were very obviously the primed and ready to go Lego.com web pages, and not preliminary boxes or catalogues. So I suspect that it is closest to public reveal. Plus the timing lines up with when they normally show the years new modular.

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The safe bet is that set revealed will be the new Modular Building, the Palace Theater. The leaked pics from that were very obviously the primed and ready to go Lego.com web pages, and not preliminary boxes or catalogues. So I suspect that it is closest to public reveal. Plus the timing lines up with when they normally show the years new modular.

Yep I totally agree with you, also I've just read in the modular cinema thread that GRogall has been saying/hinting that it will be the inseam, at least we get a designer video of it :classic:

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As would I. It just frustrates me - not only here but in life generally- when others fail to focus on the good and get bogged down trying to focus on the negative. I mean who here up until these images were released thought we would get a Mouth of Sauron fig for example?

Exactly. I'm sad there's no Gondorians too, but the Mouth of Sauron could only ever appear in this set, and it's a wonder that we are getting him at all. I love Gondorians, but I am patient: I highly doubt that Lego is going to release nothing in the Winter of 2014/2015 when every sane kid is going to be tweaking for more Tolkien legos. If we have to keep waiting for them, so be it. The major battles of Return of the King seem unlikely to be completely ignored before the license fades out - Gondorians can appear in any set pertaining to Osgiliath or Minas Tirith, and I find it very unlikely that we won't get the iconic Eowyn vs. Witch-king scene eventually. So for the time being, I am extremely glad they gave us the obscure King of the Dead and Oathbreaker pieces, as well as the King of the Dead, all in one wave. It's a wonder we have Lego LOTR at all - I'm an atheist and I'll be the first to say, count your blessings and stop whining about Old Gloin. :wink: If I have any complaint about Rivendell it's that we should have gotten Bruinen instead, for more mounted Nazgul and an action-mode Arwen. The only reason we didn't is because a ford is boring to build, and Lego can't put a hobbit and an elf on one horse - gotta acknowledge the limitations of Lego, unfortunately. I'll probably end up giving Arwen blue pants and be happy with that :tongue:

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We already know the sets we will get this summer for LOTR. Next winter's sets will most likely focus on the Hobbit and with the summer release of The Hobbit: There and Back Again on July 18, 2014 we will probably get Hobbit based sets then too. I, like many people on this forum, believe that the sets based on Peter Jackson's movies will only last as long as the movies themselves. That being said, it appears as if the next three waves have been spoken for. Could we be looking at this summer's sets as the last round for sets based on the LOTR trilogy ?

Summer 2013 LOTR: The Black Gate, Wizard's Duel...ext.

Winter 2013 The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug sets

Summer 2014 The Hobbit: There and Back Again sets

Winter 2014....end of Tolkien related sets? :( Or will we see the line continue in the winter and the summer of 2015?

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We already know the sets we will get this summer for LOTR. Next winter's sets will most likely focus on the Hobbit and with the summer release of The Hobbit: There and Back Again on July 18, 2014 we will probably get Hobbit based sets then too. I, like many people on this forum, believe that the sets based on Peter Jackson's movies will only last as long as the movies themselves. That being said, it appears as if the next three waves have been spoken for. Could we be looking at this summer's sets as the last round for sets based on the LOTR trilogy ?

Summer 2013 LOTR: The Black Gate, Wizard's Duel...ext.

Winter 2013 The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug sets

Summer 2014 The Hobbit: There and Back Again sets

Winter 2014....end of Tolkien related sets? :( Or will we see the line continue in the winter and the summer of 2015?

The momentum could carry into christmas 2014 with DVD releases etc.

June 2014 could see a mix of hobbit/LoTR sets seeing as hobbit sets will also be released christmas 2013. Either way we'll have Tolkien based sets for a while to come

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I believe winter 2014 will have some middle earth sets. the bluray/dvd release will provide some marketing.

They could also have some august/january release of 1 set similar to how the black pearl was released

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As would I. It just frustrates me - not only here but in life generally- when others fail to focus on the good and get bogged down trying to focus on the negative. I mean who here up until these images were released thought we would get a Mouth of Sauron fig for example?

Usually I expect the glass-half-empty attitude from Star Wars fans on other boards I read. Here it almost seems like the Tolkien fans are even more pessimistic. This is a license that has never seen Lego before this year, has always been one of the most demanded licenses, and has been a MOC favorite for years.

Personally, I'm thrilled with just about anything Lego decides to do for this license. Granted, it's not like Star Wars where we get multiple versions of the same thing - I'm happy we're just getting one shot.

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Think I am crazy,but I really do believe that LEGO LOTR and The Hobbit theme will access like Star wars.I really don't see the reason why wouldn't.I know that most of the themes are discontinued,but that's because in for example Indiana Jones,tey made every single minifigure they could,but in LOTR and The Hobbit,there is soo much scenes,characters,castles,and other stuff,which can't be made in 10 years,and it is soo huge trilogy what probably has the biggest fans in the world.

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As long as we'll still get to see the following figures:

- Witch-king of Angmar

- Gothmog

- Grima Wormtongue

- Éowyn

- Galadriel

- Gondorian soldier

- Denethor

- Faramir

- Ithilien Ranger

- Haradrim soldier

And so there are several others, such as Merry and Pippin in armor, weary versions of Sam and Frodo,

the bald Haradrim leader, old Bilbo, Gamling, Háma, etc...

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Ok guys I think that all of us should send very positive feedback about LOTR/Hobbit sets to TLG via email.

Because they have to know that they did good job with it.

I did it last year and I will do it again...

I REALLY want to see all of this amazing figures...

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