Wolvarie Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 They could make UCS of Minas Tirinth with assorted battle packs of Gondor, Rohan. Dead, Orcs, Uruks, Easterlings, Haradrim, Trolls of various descriptions, siege engines for both sides, Towers with trolls, armoured trolls, Grond, and then there's the Charge of the Rohirrim and the counter attack from the Harad and their Mumakil. Just in that one scene there is enough sets to last a couple of years. With the Hobbit would like to see a couple of sets to do justice to the Battle of the 5 Armies. Dwarf, elf, men of Dale and then orcs, wargs, eagles, bats, the mountain itself could be another UCS. Laketown and Smaug should be another or maybe a option for something that could come in a couple of sets. I just cannot see this line finishing in 2014/15 there is plenty to be milked out of this theme. As long as we'll still get to see the following figures: - Witch-king of Angmar - Gothmog - Grima Wormtongue - Éowyn - Galadriel - Gondorian soldier - Denethor - Faramir - Ithilien Ranger - Haradrim soldier And so there are several others, such as Merry and Pippin in armor, weary versions of Sam and Frodo, the bald Haradrim leader, old Bilbo, Gamling, Háma, etc... This is something that has really surprised me about the LOTR/Hobbit line so far....the lack of battle packs for army building. Surely LEGO know that they would sell like absolute hot cakes and make them a packet. It borders on stupidity that they haven't done so yet. But what about the Helm's deep wall set? I hear you ask. Well even at $30 in the states and $49 here I can't class that as a set the average fan is going to be able to go out and buy lots of multiples. I bought 3, but that was over $100 AU via BL. Make battlepacks now please LEGO! Quote
deskp Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 I think maybe they'll wait to make battle packs uintill they are somewhat sure they wont make more sets including the same minifigures. Quote
Lordof theBricks Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 (edited) There is soo many sets they shuld make,and it is inpossible to we will see just 2-3 wawes more: The Fellowship of the Ring -The last alliance-Elrond (armored) Isildur,Elrond,2x Numonorians,2x High elves,Mordor orc,Sauron -Shire (Bilbo's birthday) it would be really nice set with old Bilbo,3x Hobbits,desks,chairs,some animals,sheeps,goats....and maybe one Hobbit house -Escape from Nazguls-Nazgul,horse,Frodo,place under the tree,or Bucklebury raft -Bree- Barliman Butterbur,Prancing Pony (desks,chairs),2x,peasant,Blacksmith forge,Blacksmith,and Peter Jackson minifig with carrots :) (I am desinging this set on LDD right now) -Rivendell-some elves (not armored),houses,Aragorn,Arwen -Gates of Moria: Boromir,Legolas,The watcher in the water -The Bridge of Khazad Dum-Balrog,Gandalf (hair piece) 2x Moria Goblins archers with helmets -Lothlorien-Celeborn,Galadriel,big tree,Lothlorien elf,Haldir assumed,Frodo -Amon-Hen-small tower,some trees,Boromir with horn,sword and green cape,Lurtz armored (I would like to see him with tail hair) 2x Uruk-hais with different helmets,Merry,Pippin The Two Towers -Following Uruk-hais-Merry,Pippin,Ugluk,3x Uruk-hais -Catch Gollum-Gollum,Sam (elven rope),Frodo,some rock pieces -Edoras king's house-Big house,Theoden possessed,Grima,,2x Rohan guardians,Gandalf the White,Shadowfax -Edoras,some houses,wooden wall,emale peasant,2x male peasants,Eowyn assumed,Theoden assumed,Aragorn,death Theodred -Rohirrim horse masters-Eomer (hair piece),3x Rohirrim soldiers (all different printings or helmets) Aragorn,Legolas,Gimli. All Rohirriams on horses -Fangorn forest-Treebeard,Merry,Pippin,Grusnakh -Passing death-Frodo,Sam,Gollum,some lakes -Throught Mordor-Falling dawn rock piece,Sam,3x Easterings (no Black Gate,because we will get it in this wawe) -Harad attacks-2X Ranger archers,Faramir (with hood),Mumakil,3x Harad soldiers -Attack of the wargs-Sharku,Warg rider,2x Wargs,Gamling,Hama,Rohan soldier,3x horses -Treebeard encounter-Treebeard,2x ents -Helm's deep battle pack-2X armored Lothlorien elves (one with elvish long sword) small wall,ladder,Berserker (double-sided scimitar),Uruk-hai soldier (only chance to see Lothlorien elves) -Helm's deep building under the mountain: some peasants,Theoden assumed,Aragorn -Osgiliath wall-Fell beast,Nazgul,Frodo,Faramir -Fall of Isengard (battle pack)-Ent,isengard wooden tower,2x Mordor orcs The Return of the King -Death of Saruman-Saruman,Gandalf the White,Shadowfax,Theoden (hair piece,armored),Grima,Legolas,Palantir -Minas Morgul-4x Morgul orcs,Frodo,Gollum -Osgiliath battle pack-Orc boat,3x orcs,2x small walls,Ranger,2x Gondorian soldier (I desinged it and show to You a couple days ago) -Signal to Rohan-2x Gondorian soldiers (one with hair piece),Pippin,and thing he burned to give signal -Defendse of Osgiliath-Some ruined towers,Faramir,Madril,Gondorian soldier,Ranger,Gothmog,2x Morgul orcs -Escape from Osgiliath-Fell beast,Nazgul,Gondorian soldier,2x Rangers 3x Horses,Gandalf the white,Shadowfax -Return Osgiliath-Faramir (gondor armor) 2x Gondor soldiers,Ranger,4x Horses,3x Orc archers,Osgiliath ruined walls -Gates of Minas Tirith-Gates,and towers and walls around them,Gandalf the White,Shadowfax,3x Gondorian soldiers,Grond,Great beast,Troll,Gothmog,2x Mordor orcs ( I just desinging it) -Minas tirith battle pack-Wall of Minas Tirith,Orc moving tower,Troll,3x Gondorian soldiers,Pippin (Gondor armor),3x Mordor orcs (can be continued on the gates of Minas Tirith) -Throught Death place-Undead king,Aragorn with Anduril,2x Death soldiers -Corsair pirates-Peter Jackson minifigure (like pirate) regullar pirate,Pirate leader,3x death soldiers -Preparing Rohan army-some tents,3x Rohan soldiers -Tent,Elrond,Aragorn (scene where Elrond giving to Aragorn Anduril) -Rest of Minas Tirith- 2 more floors will be enough,not 7 of course,Citadel,Gondor white tree,place where Denethor falls,Faramir enjured,2x Citadel guards -Pelennor fields battle pack-Catapult,2x Rohirrim soldiers (all different) Rohan commander,2x Mordor orcs (all different) Guritz and 3 horses of course -Death of Theoden-Theoden,white horse,Merry (armor),Eowyn (armor),Witch King,Fell beast -Harad attack-Mumakil (red printings) Harad leader,2x Harad soldiers,Legolas -Mount Doom-Frodo,Sam,Gollum -Throught Mordor-Sam,Frodo (both in orc armor) 2X Orc soldiers,orc inspection,orc line breaker -Cirith Ungol-Shagrat,Sam,Frodo (neaked) Mithril,Shagrat,Gorbag -Barad Dur-shuld be exclusive set,just some orcs,maybe 4 of them -Return of the King-Aragorn armor with crown,Peasants,Arwen These are just examples what sets can we get in the future,and these is just Lotr sets,not and The Hobbit,now imagine how many sets can we get,of course we will not get soo many Osgiliath sets and others,but I showed just example what can we get And why LEGO Lotr team doesn't make battle packs only with minifigs? People will buy it like crazy,it will be selling as well,and it will be good for us and huge profit for them,let's say for example: Battle at the Black Gate battle pack: 2X Gondorian soldiers,Rohan soldier 3c Mordor orcs for 25$.Amazing,right? It will be great,because everybody will buy at least 2-3 these battle packs,and it is huge profit for them Edited January 20, 2013 by Lordof theBricks Quote
Wolvarie Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 (edited) Answer to the only minifig line is that is classified as an action figure and it steps on other brand lines...apparently I'm happy for the odd tree or rock or even a horse or warg as long as there are at least 4 minifigs in the box I will buy it like the Mayans just got the year wrong. BTW that is the most up to date ideas list I have seen LOTB! Please send that post haste to LEGO!! The LOTR trilogy has so many possibilities for sets that really if LEGO play their cards right it could be another 10+ year theme like Star Wars. Thought of another one that Disco86 put up on Flickr of the Fords of Bruinen for FOTR. Edited January 19, 2013 by Wolvarie Quote
deskp Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 Alot of those sets are mostly minfigiures collections without something good to be buildt. And a fair amount of them overlap excisting sets, for example Death of Saruman, we are already getting an Orthanc set, and we have orc forge. Quote
Lordof theBricks Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 (edited) Alot of those sets are mostly minfigiures collections without something good to be buildt. And a fair amount of them overlap excisting sets, for example Death of Saruman, we are already getting an Orthanc set, and we have orc forge. These are just examples,when You dimention,we can get in these set thing where Saruman droped and stabbed by,kind of mill Edited January 19, 2013 by Lordof theBricks Quote
General Magma Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 Quite a while ago, I created a very large list of set possibilities as well: http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=70395entry1151472 Quote
deskp Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 These are just examples,when You dimention,we can get in these set thing where Saruman droped and stabbed by,kind of mill It would make for a rather uninteresting set. Quote
Lordof theBricks Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 It would make for a rather uninteresting set. No affence,but why are You so pessimistic? I made over 50 possible sets,and You always look at the bad one? Quote
deskp Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 No affence,but why are You so pessimistic? I made over 50 possible sets,and You always look at the bad one? It was an example that showed how some of your possible set ideas wouldn't really work as real sets. It would be better boiling the 50 ideas down to fewer ones that were more realistic. Quote
-Carson Haupt- Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 I really doubt they will make a naked Frodo, even if he is in the book. Quote
deskp Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 I really doubt they will make a naked Frodo, even if he is in the book. Think he meant just shirtless. Quote
-Carson Haupt- Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 Think he meant just shirtless. Oh, yeah, that would be a lot more likely! Quote
The Joker1 Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 (edited) I persume this has been sen already, But I really love it! http://www.flickr.co...N04/8394136645/ edit-On second looks it seems quite MOC like :/ Edited January 19, 2013 by The Joker1 Quote
Lordof theBricks Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 I really doubt they will make a naked Frodo, even if he is in the book. Why not,from scene when Sam saved him in Cirith Ungol Quote
Darth Caedus Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 Think I am crazy,but I really do believe that LEGO LOTR and The Hobbit theme will access like Star wars.I really don't see the reason why wouldn't.I know that most of the themes are discontinued,but that's because in for example Indiana Jones,tey made every single minifigure they could,but in LOTR and The Hobbit,there is soo much scenes,characters,castles,and other stuff,which can't be made in 10 years,and it is soo huge trilogy what probably has the biggest fans in the world. Don't get your hopes up. We'll get what we get, but by the end of 2015 at the latest, this line will be out of steam. Star Wars has a tv show and countless new movies coming out. Tolkien will be out of theaters in a year and a half. Quote
Lordof theBricks Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 (edited) Don't get your hopes up. We'll get what we get, but by the end of 2015 at the latest, this line will be out of steam. Star Wars has a tv show and countless new movies coming out. Tolkien will be out of theaters in a year and a half. But Star wars don't make these years only from Clone wars sets,they make also from the movies,soo many years after Edited January 19, 2013 by Lordof theBricks Quote
Darth Caedus Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 (edited) But Star wars don't make these years only from Clone wars sets,they make also from the movies,soo many years after Star Wars is full of iconic vehicles that they can keep re-hashing for kids year after year after year. X-Wing, Tie fighters, the Falcon, Jedi starfighters, Slave I... LOTR has locations which are iconic and epic for the hardcore fans - Minas Tirith, Helm's Deep, etc. - but don't have the same power to fly off the shelves in the way Star Wars stuff can do. Case in point: let's say they release a rework of Helm's Deep in 2015. The hardcore fans rage, and the kids largely skip it, because there are no movies out to support interest. There are no more exclusive or attractive minifigs to make the hardcore base be interested. We do underestimate the intelligence of kids, but not their attention spans - for the vast majority, those are short as a goldfish. But contrast - they release a Slave I in 2006 and then in 2010. There's a price bloat, the first set was perfectly satisfactory - but kids gotta have that awesome ship, and the hardcores often will take the plunge because with Star Wars, Lego can toss in some attractive new minifigures and snare the collectors. Furthermore, at least half the line or more since 2008 has been powered by the Clone Wars. This will continue for 2 more years. The new movies will sustain it, starting in 2015. Now, LOTR is a powerful brand. I think the doomsayers who claim the line with the Summer '14 wave are overly pessimistic. We could see two more full waves after that, and then some exclusives and UCS the year after that - maybe even into 2016. But saying that it'll last for 10 years is supremely unrealistic. Let's focus on what priorities remain for the line: Fellbeast, Eowyn, Gondorians, Faramir, Haradrim, etc. Hope for the important stuff, and nothing beyond that. Worst case scenario - you're pleasantly surprised when we get something awesome and obscure like The Mouth Of Sauron. Edited January 19, 2013 by Darth Caedus Quote
-Carson Haupt- Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 Why not,from scene when Sam saved him in Cirith Ungol Probably because that would violate Lego's family-friendly policy. Quote
Darth Caedus Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 Probably because that would violate Lego's family-friendly policy. Agreed. Why would we even waste a set on that? We already have several Frodos and a great Sam. Gorbag and Shagrat are really not necessary. Quote
-Carson Haupt- Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 - for the vast majority those are short as a goldfish. Actually, Mythbusters proved that goldfish have enough memory to navigate a maze consistently. Quote
The Legonater Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 Probably because that would violate Lego's family-friendly policy. We've had quite a few shirtless figs in LEGO's time. There is soo many sets they shuld make,and it is inpossible to we will see just 2-3 wawes more: Again, Indiana Jones had dozens of potential sets - most more action-packed than your ideas - and it was still cancelled after a few waves. Quote
The_Chosen_1 Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 Star Wars is full of iconic vehicles that they can keep re-hashing for kids year after year after year...........Worst case scenario - you're pleasantly surprised when we get something awesome and obscure like The Mouth Of Sauron. Thank you for saying what needed to be said, Darth Caedus. I was just about to post something very similar after reading LordoftheBrick's comments, which I think were a bit misplaced. I think the best case scenario for Middle-earth sets is that they will continue into 2015 (i.e., approximately one year after the 'The Hobbit:TABA' hits theaters). The worst-case scenario, of course, being that the final wave is released in Summer 2014; this would leave little room for more LotR sets beyond what we already have coming this year. I tend to think that the line will continue for at least 1-2 waves beyond 'The Hobbit: TABA'. While Tolkien does have a very large and vocal fan base (myself included), it's nowhere near as large as those of Lego's other licensed properties (Star Wars, of course, but I also believe that Harry Potter had a much larger fan base, at least among the Lego target market). In the end, only time will tell how long we'll get Middle-earth sets. All we can do is throw our full support behind it, and be grateful for the awesome surprises along the way (Mouth of Sauron!!!!! ). Quote
Lordof theBricks Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 Thank you for saying what needed to be said, Darth Caedus. I was just about to post something very similar after reading LordoftheBrick's comments, which I think were a bit misplaced. I think the best case scenario for Middle-earth sets is that they will continue into 2015 (i.e., approximately one year after the 'The Hobbit:TABA' hits theaters). The worst-case scenario, of course, being that the final wave is released in Summer 2014; this would leave little room for more LotR sets beyond what we already have coming this year. I tend to think that the line will continue for at least 1-2 waves beyond 'The Hobbit: TABA'. While Tolkien does have a very large and vocal fan base (myself included), it's nowhere near as large as those of Lego's other licensed properties (Star Wars, of course, but I also believe that Harry Potter had a much larger fan base, at least among the Lego target market). In the end, only time will tell how long we'll get Middle-earth sets. All we can do is throw our full support behind it, and be grateful for the awesome surprises along the way (Mouth of Sauron!!!!! ). That's what I am Tolkien about,they include Mouth of Sauron in second wawe,but most of people don't know about him,because they didn't watch extended edition,and in this chase,he is not soo important character,which means,there is a time for more characters and more sets,which means,it will be continued throught many years Quote
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