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That's what I am Tolkien about,they include Mouth of Sauron in second wawe,but most of people don't know about him,because they didn't watch extended edition,and in this chase,he is not soo important character,which means,there is a time for more characters and more sets,which means,it will be continued throught many years

The minifigures that they include is no indication of how long a liscene will continue. In the Harry Potter line we never got a Kingsley Shackbolt, nor Cedric Diggory, but got comparatively minor characters such as Professor Sprout or Professor Flitwick. The fact they included the Mouth of Sauron (which is, as stated before me, a miracle in itself) is no indication of how long the sets will continue to be made.

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That's what I am Tolkien about,they include Mouth of Sauron in second wawe,but most of people don't know about him,because they didn't watch extended edition,and in this chase,he is not soo important character,which means,there is a time for more characters and more sets,which means,it will be continued throught many years

Yes, but there's no guarantee of that. It will ultimately depend on sales and relevency of the franchise. Other themes, such as Indiana Jones, saw some characters produced (Mola Ram, Short Round, etc.) while completely missing the boat on others (Sallah, Walter Donovan, etc.). The bottom line: selection of minifigures is not an indication of how long a theme will last.

Don't get me wrong, I'm firmly in the camp that hopes that this theme will last a good 5-6 years. Just pointing out the facts.

EDIT: Professor Flitwick beat me to it. :wink:

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Hmm... Games Workshop produces a number of Lord of the Rings figures for collectors or people who play the associated game. I think they're still being made, or at least being sold, and that's despite The Lord of the Rings having cooled down over recent years.

While Lego sets are primarily aimed at kids, I think there's a bit of a focus on the collectors too, particularly with minifigures (like how you needed to buy most of the sets to get the full Fellowship lineup in the first wave).

You could also look at the UCS Orthanc as evidence for this. While it might be a nice model, I don't know how many kids would want what appears to be a boring black tower when there are plenty of smaller, more colourful sets from other themes. So clearly they're targeting people who have been longer fans of the franchise.

I think Lego is one of the few things that can survive releasing and rereleasing products based on something that might not be as popular or recent any more because there's still some market for it, however large.

I'm also thinking of the current Superheroes line. Sure, there are movies which some sets are built around (The Dark Knight Rises, The Avengers, Iron Man 3 etc.), but after those releases pretty much anything can happen.

My guess would be that The Lord of the Rings/The Hobbit would have perhaps a maximum of three more years to live if we're basing it on how popular the franchise by itself is, though in terms of possible content it could go on for much longer than that.

Still, it's ultimately about what people will buy. Realistically there seem to be two reasons why the line will continue longer than that: if the sets are very popular and are selling well, or if they feel it necessary to release more iconic scenes before the license runs out. Those seem to already be happening (while releasing obscure characters or sets might not translate into more longevity of the line, it does mean that they're deliberately pushing back some of the major sets), but again, without the continued popularity of the original source material it might be stopped, even if it is doing extremely well.

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I think the best thing is just to wait and see. Ultimately we cannot do aught but buy the sets to make it go on for a longer time. And we have to be grateful for whatever comes out at all. I remember myself like nine years ago, my deepest wish was for LEGO to release LotR sets. It never happened. I stopped hoping for it. Then all of a sudden there was LotR LEGO. From nothing and no sign of it, to release of those sets... It was more than I could ever hope for. If the LotR trilogy were to be rereleased in the cinemas in 3D then I think they could definitely keep it going for some time after 2014. I haven't yet been able to afford (oh, I do afford to buy all the sets... But well... It's a hard blow) all of it. I still don't have a single Hobbit set, because they are so much more expensive than LotR. And I'm still missing all the polybags, since they aren't available in Sweden. I still miss the Shelob set. But I (and my brother) have 2 Helm's Deep x) Well... I'm thinking of getting Attack of the Wargs, Shelob and Goblin Town (don't know the name of the set). But I also feel I want to wait and see what we'll get for the new sets of LotR and Castle before I can decide.

My hopes for the future of LotR LEGO:

Éowyn + Witch King (preferably with brick-built Fell Beast, but I think they'd go with something similar to the game if it were to happen)

Edoras/Golden Hall of Meduseld

The White Tree maybe, since there probably won't be a whole Minas Tirith, and the tree, I think, though it is not my favourite, is so iconic that if there were a Minas Tirith set, the tree would have to be in it. Could come with the throne room or something. Or the beacon.

The Last Alliance... But for what the build to it would be, I do not have any ideas...

I'm not a fan of ents nor hobbits nor southrons and easterlings... But wouldn't some mûmakil (or one mûmak) be something? Preferably brick built. Such a large scale moulded animal would be impossible, I think. Those large moulds, for me, don't feel so LEGO-ish... Shelob looks great, and she is brick built. I think a fell beast and mûmak could be just as good.

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could this be the new ship for lotr ?

image was taken from a picture from lego offices.

That looks like a ship from POTC, mostly the Flying Dutchman. Or it could be a prototype for a ship from the Pirates theme.

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could this be the new ship for lotr ?

image was taken from a picture from lego offices.

Nope, Corsair ships from LotR have triangular sails and quite low build. That must be a prototype for an unreleased Pirate set if it's from Lego offices.

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could this be the new ship for lotr ?

image was taken from a picture from lego offices.

No that is a unused prototype for the Flying Dutchman from PotC. The LotR Corsair ship is sleeker with a narrower beam and as 3 ribbed triangular sails.

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No it's not.

Are you sure? I'm looking at the dark bley starting halfway up he bow, which seems to correspond to the front of the Dutchman, where the doors open and the triple guns come out?

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Are you sure? I'm looking at the dark bley starting halfway up he bow, which seems to correspond to the front of the Dutchman, where the doors open and the triple guns come out?

Definitelly not,because Corsair ship doesn't have sails like that,and it is lower

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My sister just showed me this video that appears to be legit of a previously unconfirmed LOTR set. Bilbo's birthday. Just thought I would post it and see what everyone thinks.

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Legit? Not in the slightest, I think that's pretty clear.

An Indiana Jones tent? No single new pieces? And not to mention that it's not interesting in the slightest?

Tough chance they'd do a "birthday party" set - especially not if it had to be one like this.

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It is very well done but it is fake, if you look closely the "set" is displayed on the bottom of an over turned plastic container and either side of the grey backing baseplate you can see what looks to be either carpet or a bedspread. The noises I recognized from a Toyfair video that was posted a while ago so the builder has obviously taken the sound from that video and used it here. The absence of new pieces is also a give away that it is fake, all those pieces and the poster and the backing base plate can be obtained easily. A very well done video but a fake none-the-less.

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It is very well done but it is fake, if you look closely the "set" is displayed on the bottom of an over turned plastic container and either side of the grey backing baseplate you can see what looks to be either carpet or a bedspread. The noises I recognized from a Toyfair video that was posted a while ago so the builder has obviously taken the sound from that video and used it here. The absence of new pieces is also a give away that it is fake, all those pieces and the poster and the backing base plate can be obtained easily. A very well done video but a fake none-the-less.

Interesting observation. Now you point it out, it does look like what you said.

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