LOTR & The Hobbit 2013 Set Discussion

[WEREWOLF]

other than the 4 known sets for 2013, i think there will be another set only sold by LEGO.com and Toys"R"Us and maybe more polybags

[just2good]

other than the 4 known sets for 2013, i think there will be another set only sold by LEGO.com and Toys"R"Us and maybe more polybags

Hopefully more polybags, but it really doesn't seem likely. 79009 should be a Toys"R"Us exclusive, but I'm thinking six sets is a bit too much on a second year licensed theme.

[Mahtion]

I don't understand how do polybags not violate the no figurines or action figures stance being taken by TLG?

In essence are polybags okay but not a smaller set with just three army builder minifigs and some 50-100 bricks?

These sets look great but I would like to see more clear images. I like the quality of the Corsair ship and can't wait to see the other sets with this much clarity.

Though it's not needed I would just like to say that we have all demanded a lot of Lego as AFOLs. LordoftheBricks is passionate and excited and we should all try to keep civil. Another thread for speculation has been made and I hope the situation has rectified itself.

[Darth Caedus]

Leo, Narwhal, thanks for the posts. Lordof theBricks, nobody's "spreading hate" - the rampant wild mass guessing and bravado don't have any place in this thread. We're just here to reflect and speculate on the hard evidence - like the latest Corsair ship pics.

I reiterate the earlier sentiments about the big three being included in the Corsair ship - the iconic shot of them charging towards the Orcs can't really lose any of them. I still don't have a Legolas, and only one Aragorn and Gimli. Should it have an extra Oathbreaker/Corsair? Sure, but we'll survive.

[Deathleech]

I think the only figures we really need now are Faramir, Éowyn (although possible using existing parts), Galadriel, Grima Wormtongue, Gondorian soldiers, Gothmog and the Witch-king of Angmar.

I don't really get the fascination with Galadriel. While she is undoubtedly an important character, and moreso in the books, in the regular LotR movie versions she is barely even seen. She has what, like 5-10 minutes of air time total? My brother and wife who arn't hardcore Tolkien fans like I don't even know who she is. I think the only "must see" LotR characters now are Eowyn, Faramir, the Witch King, and maybe Sauron. I say maybe Sauron because he too is barely seen, though he is obviously the main antagonist throughout all the films and it would be a shame not to get the "main" bad guy. The next round of contenders would probably look something like Wormtongue, Galadriel, and Gothmog and then after that who knows, I am sure we will get some pretty obscure characters. In terms of factions I think the only one they still "have" to cover are Gondor soldiers. Haradrim and Easterlings would be great but I feel like Lego could easily pass both up, especially the Easterlings since they have no main part shown in the films other than marching at the Black Gates. The Haradrim would be easy enough to include in a Mumakil set.

Looking at what little has been creeping out in terms of pics from the next wave, I think I am in the minority but the Corsair ship is looking like my favorite. I like how different the ship looks, while it still looks like a good solid ship. (as opposed to the half ship that is the Ninjago Destiny's Bounty). I can live with another Gimli fig. While not my first choice, it at least forms the complete scene of the three mains taking the ship. I love the three ghosts. And A Peter Jackson minifig. Too cool. But I'm weird. I like when Lego goes outside the box and does a set that's a little unexpected and different. It makes it so LotR is not simply "Castle with fleshies".

The Corsair Ship is probably my second favorite set this wave. If the minifigure selection was a little better like I mentioned before it would probably be a contender for first. As it stands the Black Gate set is probably my favorite this wave. An eagle, Gandalf the White, and the Mouth of Sauron all make it good. Though, those undead and that one (yes, ONE! ) Corsair in the pirate ship make it pretty compelling....

I reiterate the earlier sentiments about the big three being included in the Corsair ship - the iconic shot of them charging towards the Orcs can't really lose any of them. I still don't have a Legolas, and only one Aragorn and Gimli. Should it have an extra Oathbreaker/Corsair? Sure, but we'll survive.

True, but that could be said for tons of scenes. Why weren't both Merry and Pippin included in the Attack on Weathertop set, or Legolas in Helm's Deep, or Bilbo in the Warg Attacks? Obviously they can only include select figures no matter how important they are to the scene, but even still they could of included 2 extra Corsairs instead of two more orcs. We already have those same orcs in multiple other sets, and I am sure we will see them plenty more, so why include them instead of say 2 Corsairs since it's the CORSAIR ship after all? The orcs arn't even on the ship, they are on the docks and we get no docks or harbor with this set, just the ship. I suspect it was just Lego trying to cover several scenes with one set, but it sucks a whole Corsair ship only has one friggen Corsair to pilot it. And it sucks more so that Gimli is already included this wave in a cheaper set, and was in 2 sets last wave and we are getting another one of him.

Edited January 24, 2013 by Deathleech

[Delta 38]

I think the legs are the same on both the soldiers atleast, the kings legs seem to have some red on them.

If you look at the waist/hip the printing on the soldiers are different. The one on the left has that robe thing printed on part of it. I can't tell whether the King's legs are identical (they look like it to me), but the hips on all of them are definitely different.

Possible exclusive figure for a "LEGO The Hobbit" game: King Thror.

Possible exclusive figure for a "LEGO The Lord of the Rings" encyclopedia: old Bilbo Baggins.

(And otherwise we could have old Bilbo in King Thror's place, can't think of much else for a Hobbit game exclusive, Thror isn't that likely)

It'd kind of be weird to get an old Bilbo with a Hobbit game since most of the story revolves around Bilbo earlier in life. However, he's not in the Council of Elrond so we might not see him anywhere else.

That said, I'd really like to get the ship seen at the Grey Havens which the ringbearers, Celeborn and Bilbo go on. But that would certainly be too obscure and unimpressive to be made into a set.

Edited January 24, 2013 by Delta 38

[The_Chosen_1]

It'd kind of be weird to get an old Bilbo with a Hobbit game since most of the story revolves around Bilbo earlier in life.

General Magma's suggestion was the Old Bilbo be included in a Lego LotR encyclopedia, not a Hobbit game.

At this point, though, I think it's a little early to be speculating on any kind of LotR encyclopedia. There haven't been nearly enough sets to fill a book.

[Delta 38]

General Magma's suggestion was the Old Bilbo be included in a Lego LotR encyclopedia, not a Hobbit game.

Ah right, though I was referring to the last bit (Thror probably wouldn't work or at least wouldn't be very interesting).

I don't really get the fascination with Galadriel. While she is undoubtedly an important character, and moreso in the books, in the regular LotR movie versions she is barely even seen.

I think the problem with Galadriel isn't about her appearance (Mouth of Sauron etc. etc.), but rather, she doesn't appear in any scenes with much action. There have been a few "peaceful" sets so far, but even those have some element of adventure to them. The Gandalf Arrives set is one of the first scenes of the films and it's kind of exciting, because there's Gandalf, he's coming to the Shire for some reason, and we know Frodo's one of the heroes of the story so something important's about to happen. Same thing with Bag End, four Dwarves and Gandalf have to signify something. The Council of Elrond set takes place where the Fellowship is formed and the quest officially begins.

The most "action" that can happen with Galadriel as far as I can think of is the Mirror scene, and it isn't really anything new. We get a glimpse of the Eye of Sauron, but we've seen him before, and the scene basically just reinforces stuff we already know rather than setting up a new part of the story (the Ring is evil, it can corrupt people, Sauron wants it, etc.). We'd probably only see Galadriel if they think she's necessary, and I'm hoping they do.

True, but that could be said for tons of scenes. Why weren't both Merry and Pippin included in the Attack on Weathertop set, or Legolas in Helm's Deep, or Bilbo in the Warg Attacks?

With the first wave of The Lord of the Rings, weren't the members of the Fellowship intentionally spaced-out so people would have to buy most of the sets in order to complete them? As for Bilbo, we've seen him a few times so if they included him the complaints of "too many Bilbos!" would quickly appear.

(Also, Merry was in Weathertop. It was Sam who was missing.)

[Rufus]

Please use this thread for discussion of the current range, or for new set releases. Speculation or other off-topic chit-chat will not be tolerated. Thank you.

[The_Chosen_1]

I think the problem with Galadriel isn't about her appearance (Mouth of Sauron etc. etc.), but rather, she doesn't appear in any scenes with much action.

Without going into potential spoilers, you'll definitely have second thoughts about this statement after the Hobbit trilogy. Assuming PJ and crew stay somewhat true to Tolkien, that is.

Edited January 24, 2013 by The_Chosen_1

[Faefrost]

I don't understand how do polybags not violate the no figurines or action figures stance being taken by TLG?

Short answer, because Polybags are technically considered "promotional materials" and therefore can get around some of the licensing issues. But even then the Polybags have some restrictions. There are mainly 2 types of Polybags, the pure figure Polybags, which are 100% promotional giveaways (ie minihfig hulk, lex Luther in armor, Shazam, Elrond, etc) or those that are minor builds but are pure store exclusives ( Gandalf at Dul Gulder, Mirkwood Elf, Frodo Cooking, etc). Notice that Lego stores do not carry those.

[Huntleyfx]

I am absolutely loving the Corsair ship, it is a true ship of a different type than the conventional square rigging. I also think it will go very well alongside the older Troll Warship.

[Darth Caedus]

I am absolutely loving the Corsair ship, it is a true ship of a different type than the conventional square rigging. I also think it will go very well alongside the older Troll Warship.

Agreed. And with the lack of Corsairs, I'll happy crew it with the various Orcs and Goblins we've gotten thus far - having the goblin scribe at the helm would be quite funny for some reason.

[deskp]

If you look at the waist/hip the printing on the soldiers are different. The one on the left has that robe thing printed on part of it. I can't tell whether the King's legs are identical (they look like it to me), but the hips on all of them are definitely different.

Thats just the image compression messing it up, similar to how the names of the each of the soldiers doesent look like it says the same thing, the black pixels havs gotten moved around and stuff.

im 95% sure they are using the same leg/hip.

[gundamz]

Please...no polybags unless they are distributed widely.

All too often I see a nice polybag set on these forums only to find out that none of the stores near where I live carry them. Very disappointing.

[deskp]

Please...no polybags unless they are distributed widely.

All too often I see a nice polybag set on these forums only to find out that none of the stores near where I live carry them. Very disappointing.

Do they not always do 2 or 3 polybags for each wave of lisenced themes?

[Vindice]

Yea,I know I sound boring,but I expect actually more Lotr sets this winter,because there are so many scenes for make really good sets,but never mind,we will see it this summer.Does anyone know how I can contact specified LEGO team?

Highly unlikely you will get put through to a designer, and even if you do they will not let any information slip regarding future sets. It is possible that your comments will have already been viewed by a designer from LEGO as this site is occasionally viewed by them.

i say occasionaly because the grumbling and unreasonable complaining of some has put some of them off for good now.

Why not take a loo on twitter. Quite a few lego employees are on there.

[pathas]

Team of adults designers really needs to know from 13 years old boy that in LOTR are so amazing scenes what they could do

[Lordof theBricks]

If You didn't know,I designed Armored Lothlorien Elf and they accept it from me,and used in video game,also as Mouth of Sauron,who we will also see in Black Gate set,soo...I don't say that they wanted for me to desing that,but I am,and I sent it to them,and they make exactly the same in video game,and also Mouth of Sauron what we will see in Battle at the Black Gate set,EXACTLY the same,and also Gloin form The Hobbit.I say that:

If they used my ideas

If we thinking the same how they shuld look

So I could get job there,because Steven from LEGO moderator team told me on a couple of my desing that they are good

Edited January 25, 2013 by Lordof theBricks

[ZCerberus]

Guys this thread is getting out of hand! Let's stop posting about speculations for future sets and only discuss what is actually being released.

I am going to start a new threads and what we would "like" to see going forward.

Also no personal attacks please. Report abusive behavior to moderators and they will take care of it.

[Lordof theBricks]

Guys this thread is getting out of hand! Let's stop posting about speculations for future sets and only discuss what is actually being released.

I am going to start a new threads and what we would "like" to see going forward.

Also no personal attacks please. Report abusive behavior to moderators and they will take care of it.

Let's talk about winter The Hobbit sets,there is no sence to talk about these summer LOTR wawe anymore when we already know what we get

[Leo604]

Let's talk about winter The Hobbit sets,there is no sence to talk about these summer LOTR wawe anymore when we already know what we get

Well we still don't know exactly (down to the lowest layer of that word) so there could still be some thoughts to throw around.

Plus no official message from TLG as far as I know so there could also be some changes in the next 4-5 months if deemed necessary.

[Lordof theBricks]

I believe it will be fair to see in second The Hobbit wawe 2 sets from first movie,because we saw in first wawe 2 sets from second movie.

It will be nice to see set with 3 trolls,and playability features like cooking corner,breaking big rock (what Gandalf did) but I don't know how LEGO will make set with 3 trolls :/ it will be too many big creatures for one set.

And I would really like to see AZOG with arm,or without

[ZCerberus]

These posts are speculative. Put this in the future sets thread please. Let's only talk about the sets we know about here.

[Kez]

Here's a clearer but smaller image of the battle at helms deep board game