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Wait, Dom De La Whoosh is SPANISH?! I as expecting a french accent for some reason. Overall, I kind of liked, for now, I think inserting some rampant speculation is good, deeper thoughts later.

Thoughts on who Shadow Wind is:

An elephant

Lavertus from the 2014 set lineup.

Either of the spider or scorpion tribe.

Some new, unknown wanderer or tribe.

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Wait, Dom De La Whoosh is SPANISH?! I as expecting a french accent for some reason. Overall, I kind of liked, for now, I think inserting some rampant speculation is good, deeper thoughts later.

Thoughts on who Shadow Wind is:

An elephant

Lavertus from the 2014 set lineup.

Either of the spider or scorpion tribe.

Some new, unknown wanderer or tribe.

Laval did mention elephants in the first or second episode, and we haven't seen any yet.

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Ok, in alphabetical order: WARNING SPOILERS

Bears: no comment, they barley appeared, but they were there.

Crocs: Ok, Cragger has become (in terms of character at least.) A walking train wreck, he seems to have been compltely derailed. Crooler laughed way too much, enough to get on my nerves, in fact. The only saving grace, and I only do this for Cragger, Crooler is annoying now, is when he choked on Plovar.

Dom De La Whoosh: Ok, I think that he was an interesting character, though I was expecting a french accent for some reason. His Charisma really showed, and he truley did steal the show.

Eagles: Ewald and the other one were funny, completly missing the earthquake, and instead focusing on their reading.

Eris: She gets a special mention for this episode. First of all, I would like to say that her backside is nude. This can't be passed as laziness either, she has a small patch of blue directly underneath her hip area. I'm not sure why they did that, but I found it to be quite obnoxius, combined with her clucking after saying she wanted to be friends with Dom De La Whoosh, she is actually the most 'adult' character right now. (In case you're wondering, some birds make a clucking like that before or during mating.) Alright, back to her personality, she has stayed mostly on track, which I'm enjoying.

Shadow Wind: Ok, I hate mysterys, I have a tenency to think about them in my spare time, and Shadow Wind is no exception. Evidence (AKA The 2014 set list) Suggests that he could possibly be Lavertus, this theory is backed up by the fact that Shadow Wind uses a Lion Speedor, or the tusks could mean he's an elephant, but I doubt it.

Overall, this was a full race episode, and a well made one at that.

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Gorillas Gone Wild is probably the first episode to air without some really childish joke! Really liked it, and shined some light on the Gorillas' need for "mellow-ness."

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Gorillas Gone Wild is probably the first episode to air without some really childish joke! Really liked it, and shined some light on the Gorillas' need for "mellow-ness."

I agree! and Crooler seemed very, hm, harsh.

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While I know this show is primarily a medium to sell toys, and is therefore understandably childish, I've always tried to look at the series deeper, asking why the tribes do the things they do.

For example, why are the vast majority of Eagles scholars, while their vehicles have some military weapons? Did there use to be other Eagles (or Hawks as I call them) who were more military/expansionist leaning and were banished for the general peace of the rest of the major tribes?

Same with Lions that were more vicious and didn't hold back in fighting (i.e. Tigers)

Gorillas who refused to be mellow and calm (Chimps or other monkeys)

Ravens that either weren't mercantile enough or too shady in their dealings (I like Vultures)

Crocodiles that refused to live in the tough life of the Crocs (Turtles)

Wolves who refused to join the pack mind and were individualistic (Foxes)

I mean, it's obvious with their superior air force the Eagles could have easily pushed the Lions from their home and take all the Chi for themselves, so why haven't they? Simple- through successive generations and banishments Eagles who had the capability to think this way disappeared from the main Chima area. Same with the other tribes, which eventually caused the tribes to condense into the stereotypes they are today, as tribe members who rubbed against the grain upset the balance and were thus exiled.

What really upsets me are the war crimes committed in Episode 9. I mean, I know the "tower flower" was very important for Gorilla culture and mythology, but after clearly seeing only one Croc was responsible, and then taking the fight to the currently innocent Croc village is just wrong. When G'Loona (the female Gorilla) goes to warn the Lions about the rampage of revenge, I expected them to go in to either hold back the Gorillas or protect the Crocs. Instead we are treated to a three tribe witch hunt on the Crocs.

And of course when the fighting dies down and the "good guys" are victorious, are the Gorillas punished or even mildly scolded for picking a fight on an innocent people and getting their megablocks handed to them until help arrived? No! They congratulate themselves and cry out how they can team up to defeat the "evil Crocs!" It's just sick, personally.

I understand the status quo and the fact the L-E-G tribes are supposed to be the good guys, and the R-C-W tribes are meant to be the bad guys, but really? I'd expect better for a show aimed mostly at preteen boys. But teaching kids it's okay to stereotype the entire "bad guy" tribe and attack them for the actions of one is not right. Especially when they find themselves in a mostly fair fight and need to call in friends to do nearly half the real fighting.

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What really upsets me are the war crimes committed in Episode 9. I mean, I know the "tower flower" was very important for Gorilla culture and mythology, but after clearly seeing only one Croc was responsible, and then taking the fight to the currently innocent Croc village is just wrong. When G'Loona (the female Gorilla) goes to warn the Lions about the rampage of revenge, I expected them to go in to either hold back the Gorillas or protect the Crocs. Instead we are treated to a three tribe witch hunt on the Crocs.

And of course when the fighting dies down and the "good guys" are victorious, are the Gorillas punished or even mildly scolded for picking a fight on an innocent people and getting their megablocks handed to them until help arrived? No! They congratulate themselves and cry out how they can team up to defeat the "evil Crocs!" It's just sick, personally.

I understand the status quo and the fact the L-E-G tribes are supposed to be the good guys, and the R-C-W tribes are meant to be the bad guys, but really? I'd expect better for a show aimed mostly at preteen boys. But teaching kids it's okay to stereotype the entire "bad guy" tribe and attack them for the actions of one is not right. Especially when they find themselves in a mostly fair fight and need to call in friends to do nearly half the real fighting.

I haven't watched the episode, but that sounds really awful.

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Look, I understand that was wrong, but in war, letting the enemy see a moment of peace during a fight while bickering amongest yourselves is worse. What I didn't like was how the Crocs lost on their home ground. I think that all that did was establish the wolves as the only capaple fighters on the bad guy group. I think attacking the whole Croc tribe was wrong, but some of the lines in the beginning mentioned how Gorillas work towards 'greatmellowness' their whole lives, and they were almost there. I would be angry too.

EDIT: I believe that the 'hawks' as you call them, (Chi can't turn Eagles into hawks.) are simply Eagles possibly surviving in the outlands, its possbile to do it, just look at the 2014 set list.

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Look, I understand that was wrong, but in war, letting the enemy see a moment of peace during a fight while bickering amongest yourselves is worse. What I didn't like was how the Crocs lost on their home ground. I think that all that did was establish the wolves as the only capaple fighters on the bad guy group. I think attacking the whole Croc tribe was wrong, but some of the lines in the beginning mentioned how Gorillas work towards 'greatmellowness' their whole lives, and they were almost there. I would be angry too.

EDIT: I believe that the 'hawks' as you call them, (Chi can't turn Eagles into hawks.) are simply Eagles possibly surviving in the outlands, its possbile to do it, just look at the 2014 set list.

I'm just calling them Hawks (and the other tribe/race names) to reflect their likely ideology (Hawks coming from the Doves vs Hawks war thing in U.S. past.) (It also would make them easier to distinguish as sets hypothetically.)

And on the whole "Great Mellow" and "Tower Flower", I understand how difficult it was to create such a flower. I understand that they probably won't be able to create another one for a long time. But even if the flower wasn't immediately destroyed (as it looked finished growing to me) there is only so long a flower can last, no matter how big. The Gorillas could (unlikely) have taken this in stride and strived to make another flower.

But what do the Gorillas do after chasing off Cragger? They run back to their village, arm up themselves, and charge towards the Croc Village. And what do they do when they reach the fort? Do they call out for the perpetrator to reveal themselves? Do they even announce their intentions? No! They start attacking and destroying any Croc they see with wordless roars of anger!

The Crocs try to defend themselves and close up their fort, but when they're being outmatched at their own fort they try to run away on their boats to somewhere the Gorillas can't follow. And how do the Gorillas respond when there's no more Crocs to beat up? Give chase to them! And when the Gorillas can't give chase anymore (because they're stuck on a boggy island with no nearby trees to jump to) what do the surrounding Crocs do? Set up a barricade and fire on them, but mostly keep back.

And when the Eagles and Lions come to save the Gorillas, do they carry the mechs off to dryer land so they can get away? No! They fly around carrying the mechs to pummel the Croc boats! And what really ticks me off is how Lagravis does not even think to mention the folly in bringing land based, top-heavy mechs to attack a swamp (almost) unprovoked.

I am also really disturbed about the vehicles the Gorillas use compared to other tribes. Namely:

The Lions have variants of motorcycles, jeeps, ATVs, tanks, and some small watercraft. There's a relatively clean line between military vehicles and sport/scout vehicles

The Eagles have mostly entirely aircraft, with a few motorbikes and a tank or two for land forces. The majority of Eagle vehicles have escape pods. Very few of their vehicles are equipped with weapons.

The Ravens are pretty much entirely small-to-medium, slow, junked flyers designed to haul large amounts of cargo, with the ideal amount of weapons needed to defend their loot.

The Wolves, as a nomadic major tribe, have to be able to pick up everything they own and move out. Thus, they have a large variety of small to large land vehicles with random degrees of weapons because of the Wolves' need to have any part of the pack be interchangeable with another.

The Crocs vary between land and water craft, with a partial focus on more industrial vehicles (The Claw Ripper as a logger, for example), but also with their fair share of weapons to match the other tribes.

But the Gorillas, as we've seen, really only have two different kinds of vehicles- Speedors and their big mechs. And the Gorilla Speedors have only been used for the major races, so really they only use their mechs. But with no weapons besides a removable shoulder mounted "banana cannon" it becomes very difficult to classify their mechs as military or utilitarian, so the Gorillas and their dangerous mechs are given a pass by the other tribes.

I'm really sick of the hypocritical "peace loving" Gorillas, who half the time seem to bait the other tribes into giving the Gorillas an excuse to attack them. The Gorillas, who call for peace and mellowness, yet only carry blunt weapons (weapons not designed to kill, but designed to injure and be easy to argue as harmless). At least the Wolves' have their honor, the Crocs' their rugged truthlike nature, the Ravens' worship of value, the Lions' compulsion to guard and equally distribute the Chi, and the Eagles' strong inner control against aggression.

Finally, I understand this is a children's show designed to market toys to children. I understand completely why each different tribe is stereotyped into one mold. I understand the need for conflict in Chima to make a story.

But I can't accept the Gorillas, who are designated as "good guys", yet seem much closer to a Lego equivalent to the Westboro Baptist Church.

Sorry for the (sort of) rant. I'm just really ticked off that this kind of stuff is on television for children. (Even though I wouldn't accept this on television for teenagers and older as well.)

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Just finished watching episode 9 and I can't believe we are this far into the series and the closest thing we have to a solid plot line is this Shadow-Wind guy, and I already have a good idea who he is.

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The next episode's name is 'Foxtrot'. I don't have any other info.

-Sci

Oh, so maybe we'll see a lot of Furty?

I still haven't seen a single episode of the show since the third one... :hmpf_bad:

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Watched the latest episode. Man I LIKED it.

Really? You liked all that racism in a children's cartoon?

...

I'm joking, but you actually LIKED that episode with the Gorillas? Where they attacked every single Croc they could find with no warning? Really?

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Just finished episode 10, Foxtrot, on a site called watchcartoononline.com. Here are my thoughts, spoilers, yada yada yada:

I'm liking Furtivo, he seems like a useful if evil character.

The entire Roggan/Eris thing was cute but ultimately pointless and annoying.

Shadowwind being a cool guy is still awesome, and we've just confirmed (unless we already knew) that Golden Chi Races happen once a month.

With the Wolfpact- it basically says that wolves were once nearly feral within living memory.

I didn't like was how easily the wolves jumped in on the plot. I thought that one of the wolves' few redeeming qualities was their honor, but I guess we can throw that out the window.

The Gorillas have proven again how hypocritical and near the breaking point of rage they are. I like the Bears actually doing something instead of sleeping.

Cragger and Laval teaming up is awesome, and FINALLY Cragger pushes that goddamn flower away.From what I've seen, I'm guessing Lions and Crocs are gonna be allies for the time being.

And if the scales between "good" and "evil" are tipped, then they must be turned back. Ideally, I'd go with these sides for now:

Good: Lions, Crocs, Eagles

Bad: Wolves, Gorillas, Ravens

Neutral: Beavers, Bears, Rhinos

(I really don't like Gorillas after episode 9)

And I LOVE that final scene with the shadowy Croc picking up the Wolf deal. Most likely it's Crominus that picked it up, but the possibility that Crooler or Cragger picked it up is also possible.

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*snip*

First off, spoiler tags.

And second, a link to the site would be nice as well.

It was the same site I reported to have the Biggest Race Ever a few weeks ago, but to be helpful, you can find it right here.

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Wow, that was... an interesting episode.

Rogon liking Eris. Not sure how I feel about that.

I like Furty's part in the episode. I don't get why he's neutral in the LEGO sets, along with Skinnet.

I was really hoping for a Crominus/Crunket cameo at the end, but instead we got Cragger. e_e

Looks like Crooler is turning into the villain. Like where this is heading.

And that wraps up my thoughts on the new episode!

Oh, and the new episode is called 'Chi Jackers' !

-Sci

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And second, a link to the site would be nice as well.

It was the same site I reported to have the Biggest Race Ever a few weeks ago, but to be helpful, you can find it right here.

And, I always come here late. Video isn't up anymore. :laugh:

I guess I'll wait 'til next week. :grin:

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