Legends of Chima TV Series

[Garmadon]

So a friend (Dont know if I can trust him) said that episode three will have more emphasis on the Eagles. I couldn't get anymore out of him.

i also ran across an odd piece of trivia, Eris and Crooler are voiced by the same person. (Bethany brown.)

About the Eagle thing, I believe it, though I'm not sure if I believe your friend watched the episode (which, I suppose he didn't say)

And the trivia thing, there are a couple of other animals voiced by the same person, e.g., Crominus and Lagravis, and Laval and Worriz.

[Good Cragger Fan]

About the Eagle thing, I believe it, though I'm not sure if I believe your friend watched the episode (which, I suppose he didn't say)

And the trivia thing, there are a couple of other animals voiced by the same person, e.g., Crominus and Lagravis, and Laval and Worriz.

This is very interesting (about LaGravis and Crominus in being voiced by the same person (who are voiced acted by George Bill Courage, by the way, in case you didn't know this)). It is because, when Crominus first finds out that Cragger was arrested by the Lions and he said "He did what?!!" in the Croc Lair Hideout right up until just before he and Crunket fall down into that hole (or cave) in the Fangs, he sounds nothing like LaGravis, but when he said to Cragger right before he and Crunket fall into that hole, "You're in charge now, son. But what ever you do, don't..." (and then he and Crunket fall down the hole), he sounds a lot like LaGravis's voice but only deeper and a bit more raspy in sound -- and this continues after he and Crunket fall down that hole when he talks to Crunket about what he said to Cragger, since Crunket was worried about Cragger (and she should be worried about him, for obvious reasons for those people who've seen the first two episodes!). Therefore, I wonder if it is not one person but two different people had voiced Crominus in the first episode of the TV series. However can anyone confirm this?

Here is an edit: I've changed the name of the voice actor of Crominus from "George Courage" to "Bill Courage", since I made an error in the voice actor's name.

Edited March 19, 2013 by Good Cragger Fan

[krystalKING]

Another note, when the legend beasts are seen disappearing, only the good ones are seen, like the lion and eagle. among the beasts are the bear and rhino beasts. meaning the bears and rhinos might be good guys.

[Good Cragger Fan]

Another note, when the legend beasts are seen disappearing, only the good ones are seen, like the lion and eagle. among the beasts are the bear and rhino beasts. meaning the bears and rhinos might be good guys.

I thought I saw a Crocodile and a Gorilla Legend Beast, but I not sure about this. However, I've counted five or six Legend Beasts when they were seen disappearing from Chima. Moreover, how could there be no Wolf, Raven or Crocodile Legend Beasts?

On Mount Cavora, the mountain that is seen floating in the sky with waterfalls, which consist of Chi that are mixed with water, that are coming down from it, you can see a Lion, a Gorilla and a Crocodile head design that are shaped into the rock of the mountain itself, which take up about 1/4, or maybe 1/3, of the space that goes around the mountain, so this means that there could be up to 12 Legend Beasts and thus up to 12 animal tribes in the world of Chima.

[Garmadon]

This is very interesting (about LaGravis and Crominus in being voiced by the same person (who are voiced acted by George Courage, by the way, in case you didn't know this)). It is because, when Crominus first finds out that Cragger was arrested by the Lions and he said "He did what?!!" in the Croc Lair Hideout right up until just before he and Crunket fall down into that hole (or cave) in the Fangs, he sounds nothing like LaGravis, but when he said to Cragger right before he and Crunket fall into that hole, "You're in charge now, son. But what ever you do, don't..." (and then he and Crunket fall down the hole), he sounds a lot like LaGravis's voice but only deeper and a bit more raspy in sound -- and this continues after he and Crunket fall down that hole when he talks to Crunket about what he said to Cragger, since Crunket was worried about Cragger (and she should be worried about him, for obvious reasons for those people who've seen the first two episodes!). Therefore, I wonder if it is not one person but two different people had voiced Crominus in the first episode of the TV series. However can anyone confirm this?

No, I believe that Crominus is always voiced by the same person (I looked it up, BTW).

As to sounding different at diferent times, you know that people can twist their voices sometimes to sound very different,

or they could pass it through a program on the computer to change it.

[Good Cragger Fan]

No, I believe that Crominus is always voiced by the same person (I looked it up, BTW).As to sounding different at diferent times, you know that people can twist their voices sometimes to sound very different,or they could pass it through a program on the computer to change it.

Well, in that case, the voice acting that done by George Bill Courage is inconsistant when he voices Crominus, so it, towards the end of the second episode, sounds like a completely different character other than Crominus. Therefore, George Bill Courage should be more consistant with his voice acting of Crominus, though it does not bother me too much there. (However, I thought that I should point this out to everyone, just for their own information). As for when the show will air on TV again, at least for Canada (I will also post this in the "Canada Eh?" thread in the Community forum), it will be airing on Teletoon on Friday, March 29, 2013 at 6:30 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. (yay!! ), both Eastern Daylight Savings Time (for the Eastern Time Zone feed) and Pacific Daylight Savings Time (for the Pacific Time Zone feed), for a total of 90 minutes, with at least one new episode. (Hopefully all three episodes are new ones, however; but Teletoon may re-air the first two episodes again before them airing a new episode at 7:30 p.m. -- but this probably will depend on what episodes in which the US version (and possibly the Canadian version) of Cartoon Network will air on TV). I can't wait anymore, as the wait on what will happen to Cragger, Crominus and Crunket is figuratively killing me!!!! I got this information from the TV schedule that is on Teletoon's website.

Here is an edit: I changed the name "George Courage" to "Bill Courage", as it appears to be that, it according to Wikipedia, Crominus is voiced by Bill Courage, not George Courage (as I originally thought here), so I'm sorry for the mistake.

Edited March 19, 2013 by Good Cragger Fan

[Speedza-Demon]

Cartoon Network has also been playing commercials for the new episode. And yes, I said episode, because apparently it's just a marathon of the first two with a new one at the end. I don't have the proper equipment to record it, though it appears that this episode will have G'Loona in it.

[Good Cragger Fan]

Cartoon Network has also been playing commercials for the new episode. And yes, I said episode, because apparently it's just a marathon of the first two with a new one at the end. I don't have the proper equipment to record it, though it appears that this episode will have G'Loona in it.

If it is only one brand new episode that will be airing on Cartoon Network in the US (as well as on Teletoon, in Canada), then it better damn well have a proper ending to it, unlike the last episode -- with either Cragger turning good (via him being freed of Crooler's control from her orchid) and joining the Lions, Eagles and Gorillas to stop the Wolves, Ravens and the other Crocodlies (other than his parents Crominus and Crunket) in their evil plans, or Crominus (and/or Crunket) in helping the Lions, the Eagles and Gorillas in putting a stop to Worriz's, Rawzom's/Razar's, Crooler's (and Cragger's (while he is under his sister's control via her orchid)) evil plans to distroy the Lions and their allies (the Eagles and Gorillas) and steal their Chi orbs [once he and Crunket escape the clapsed cave in The Fangs region of the land of Chima]. (In this way, the first of the regular episodes of the Legends of Chima TV series can introduce a brand new villain, to replace (and/or accompany) the extisting villains, just like how Wil Films and LEGO did with the Ninjago: Masters of Spinjitzu TV series with the "Rise of the Snakes" story arc.) Alternatively, if neither one of these two things do happen in the new episode, then there better damn well be a brand new reptlian animal warrior tribe that will be introduced in that episode, that will be on the Lions', Eagles' and Gorillas' side of the war, or I will not be very happy at all here!!!

Here's an edit: Can someone please upload the commericial (or commercials) that are advertising the brand new episode of the Legends of Chima TV series to YouTube or a similar website to it, or at least provide a link to them on here, if it is possible to do so? It would be greatly appreciated by me (and many other people on here)!

Edited March 14, 2013 by Good Cragger Fan

[PenPlays]

The reason Ninjago had an entire new group of villains three episodes into the series is because it took them an entire year to continue the series. Getting a new villain just three episodes into the LoC series within the same set production window would rush the series extremely, unless of course that villain(ess) has already been introduced. Not to mention the fact that if these "supposed new villains" were revealed in early Summer, the hype for these villains would drop dramatically by the time the new wave of sets get released (Winter 2014).

I'm also curious how multiple reptile tribes would work. I think it would be too overwhelming. It's like having both a Lion and a Tiger tribe, a Gorilla and a Chimpanzee tribe, or a Wolf and a Coyote tribe. It'd be just too much!

[Good Cragger Fan]

The reason Ninjago had an entire new group of villains three episodes into the series is because it took them an entire year to continue the series. Getting a new villain just three episodes into the LoC series within the same set production window would rush the series extremely, unless of course that villain(ess) has already been introduced. Not to mention the fact that if these "supposed new villains" were revealed in early Summer, the hype for these villains would drop dramatically by the time the new wave of sets get released (Winter 2014).

I'm also curious how multiple reptile tribes would work. I think it would be too overwhelming. It's like having both a Lion and a Tiger tribe, a Gorilla and a Chimpanzee tribe, or a Wolf and a Coyote tribe. It'd be just too much!

Don't you forget that we already have two avian (bird-like) tribes (the Eagles and the Ravens) and two canine (dog-like) tribes (the Foxes and the Wolves), so it is certainly not "too overwhelming" to have two reptile tribes! Besides, on page two of the January 2013 (for the US) and the Issue 1 of 2013 (for Canada) LEGO Club Magazine, on the Mount Cavora image, there appears to be a different reptile image that is shaped into the moutainside of it, which is different from and does not look like the Crocodile image that is shaped into the mountainside of the Mount Cavora image on www.kingdomofchima.com, for your (and everybody else's information. (Could this animal shape that is shaped into the rocks of Mount Cavora in the LEGO Club Magazine be a Turtle, an alligator, or some other reptile? However I'm not sure what reptile it is suppossed to be there, but it definately is not a Crocodile!)

Here is an edit: I corrected the website link from www.chima.com to www.kingdomofchima.com. I'm sorry for any inconvience that this may caused here!

Edited March 18, 2013 by Good Cragger Fan

[PenPlays]

Eagles are big swooping preadators, Ravens are moderate sized birds after scraps. Check. Not alike.

Foxes are "every fox for himself" and stick to moderate size prey, Wolves travel in packs and bring down large sized targets. Check. Not alike.

Lions are large and are carnivores that feed on large prey, Tigers are large and are carnivores that feed on large prey. Check. Alike

Gorillas are a type of monkey, Chimpanzees are a type of monkey. Check. Alike.

Crocodiles are large, scaly amphibians, lizards are various in size, scaly amphibians, frogs, are various in size, slimy amphibians. Check Alike,

When something is like another, they both become uninteresting in the eyes of a child because they have seen "something like this" before. Lego can't afford that. Especially after the hard work done to promote this theme. Sometimes the business side of life is far stronger, and believe me, if there were a lizard tribe, I would definitely reconsider my choice of favorite tribe, but for now...

[Good Cragger Fan]

Eagles are big swooping preadators, Ravens are moderate sized birds after scraps. Check. Not alike.

Foxes are "every fox for himself" and stick to moderate size prey, Wolves travel in packs and bring down large sized targets. Check. Not alike.

Lions are large and are carnivores that feed on large prey, Tigers are large and are carnivores that feed on large prey. Check. Alike

Gorillas are a type of monkey, Chimpanzees are a type of monkey. Check. Alike.

Crocodiles are large, scaly amphibians, lizards are various in size, scaly amphibians, frogs, are various in size, slimy amphibians. Check Alike,

When something is like another, they both become uninteresting in the eyes of a child because they have seen "something like this" before. Lego can't afford that. Especially after the hard work done to promote this theme. Sometimes the business side of life is far stronger, and believe me, if there were a lizard tribe, I would definitely reconsider my choice of favorite tribe, but for now...

That may be the case, but Crocodiles are a type of aquatic reptile, with scales all over their bodies, so they are not amphibians, even though they live in the water as well as on land. On the other figurative hand -- frogs are amphibians because they do not have scales on their bodies, and they live in the water as well as on land. Therefore, there is a very important difference that is between the two animals.

As for you mentioning both crocodiles and frogs, in replying to one of my recent posts, I only mentioned crocodiles but not frogs in that particular post, but I did mention turtles and alligators as possible counterparts to the Crocodile tribe in the land of Chima. However, if you think that turtles and/or alligators are too similar to the Crocodile tribe in terms of attributes, me not counting their character and personality, to be one of the new additional tribes in the land of Chima, then what would be a suitable reptile and/or lizard animal that can be made into an additional tribe that is to be included by LEGO in the land of Chima (personally, I think that turtles and, especially, dragons and snakes are different enough from crocodlies that they can be included as one of the new addtional tribes in the land of Chima, without in them both being so similar to children that they can be confusing and/or boring to them!)?

Edited March 15, 2013 by Good Cragger Fan

[PenPlays]

Dragons fall into the mythical category. I kept them as a separate thought being that they could be captured completely different, being that they are not physically within an animal phylum. But, along with a panda in the bear faction, I'd love to see me some dragons!

By the way, I saw the new trailer today for the episodes airing on the 27th. First two episodes are the ones we've seen and then the third episode which we already knew would be new. Lots of calm scenes with Cragger and Laval. Maybe you were onto something GCF (a good cragger fan could use an abreviation ).

After seeing the trailer, the only thing I could think was... "Dude!"

[CM4Sci]

I typed a (somewhat decent) transcript for the first episode. If anyone needs it, feel free to PM me.

-Sci

[Good Cragger Fan]

The reason Ninjago had an entire new group of villains three episodes into the series is because it took them an entire year to continue the series. Getting a new villain just three episodes into the LoC series within the same set production window would rush the series extremely, unless of course that villain(ess) has already been introduced. Not to mention the fact that if these "supposed new villains" were revealed in early Summer, the hype for these villains would drop dramatically by the time the new wave of sets get released (Winter 2014).I'm also curious how multiple reptile tribes would work. I think it would be too overwhelming. It's like having both a Lion and a Tiger tribe, a Gorilla and a Chimpanzee tribe, or a Wolf and a Coyote tribe. It'd be just too much!

About the first paragraph, I believe that the two pilot episodes of Ninjago: Masters of Spinjitzu (which I considered them as "Season 0" of the TV series) were aired in mid-to-late May of 2011 on the US version of Cartoon Network, for the very first time (but someone can correct me if I'm wrong about this), and then the first two (or maybe three) episodes of the TV series proper (which are the first episodes of "Season 1" of the TV series) were aired in early December of 2011 on the US version of Cartoon Network, for the very first time, so it was only a little more than 6 months that is between the first airing of the pilot episodes of Ninjago: Masters of Spinjitzu and the first airing of the first two (or three) episodes of "Season 1" of the same TV series. In addition, a similar thing is likely to happen with the Legends of Chima TV series: with the first two pilot episodes that were aired in mid January of 2013 on the US version of Cartoon Network; the third (and probably the final) pilot episode (I think that it will be a pilot episode) of the TV series that will be aired in late March of 2013; and, finally, the TV series proper (which is the start of "Season 1") that will be aired in the summertime (this probably means that they will air in July, but I'm not too sure about this , so if anyone knows the answer, it would be greatly appreciated if they let us know here! ). Therefore, it is considered a separate set production (figurative) window, so I can very easliy see an entire new group of villains in being introduced to the Legends of Chima TV series, four episodes into the TV series, it starting in the first episode that will be airing in the summertime, as part of the TV series proper, in "Season 1". Besides, I really look forward to a new group of villains -- such as barbarian tribes that originally lured the Crocodiles, Ravens and Wolves to their side, but when the Crocodiles, Ravens and Wolves failed in the battle against the Lions, Eagles and Gorillas for the control of Chi, the barbarian tribes invade the land of Chima themselves and attack most if not all of the tribes of Chima, them including the Crocodiles and, perhaps, the Ravens and Wolves as well, and thus some of the current bad characters turn good in character and personality, especially Crominus, Crunket (once they escape the clasped cave) and Cragger!

Also, here on Eurobricks, you mentioned in your last post in this very thread that you saw the TV commerical that advertised the new episode that will be aired on March 27 on the US version of Cartoon Network, and you said that there are a lot of calm scenes that feature both Laval and Cragger; thus I really, really hope that this is true there so that their friendship gets saved there, and thus, they stop being enemies. I'm saying this, because, you need to come on there, since how much longer in time can Cragger possibly stay under the evil influence of Crooler's orchid -- since it keeps wearing off constantly there; Cragger needs to be re-hipnotised by it, as a result; and sooner or later, Laval and/or any of his allies will find out somehow, eventually, and stop crooler from hipnotising Cragger with that orchid? Because of these things, I'm hopeful that LEGO will do the following things: First, they will treat Cragger as the "Lloyd Garmadon" of the Legends of Chima story in terms of most of, if not all of, the aspects of his personality and character (from him being a villain, to become, shortly afterwards, one of the main heros -- in particular); second, they will treat Crooler as the "Lord Garmadon" of the Legends of Chima story in most of, if not all of, his personality and character traits (from him being (appearantly) the main villain, to become, though at the very end of "Season 2", good again, once the true main villain is defeated there -- in particular), and finally, they will treat the barbarian tribes, or whoever becomes the new villain or villainess (or villains or villainesses), as the "Serpentine" and/or the "Overlord" and the "Stone (Samurai) Warriors" of the Legends of Chima story.

Edited March 18, 2013 by Good Cragger Fan

[Good Cragger Fan]

About the Eagle thing, I believe it, though I'm not sure if I believe your friend watched the episode (which, I suppose he didn't say)

And the trivia thing, there are a couple of other animals voiced by the same person, e.g., Crominus and Lagravis, and Laval and Worriz.

I'm sorry for the double post, but do you have a source that you can link here that says that the voices of LaGravis and Crominus are, indeed, done by the same voice actor? I'm asking this because Crominus' voice sounds different towards the end of the first episode, which, in this case, is the only couple of times when his voice sounds a lot like LaGravis' voice.

[PenPlays]

From what I see, I think Cragger would grow an immunity from excessive use of the orchid. Crooler would then abandon her brother for the "good" tribes and take the Crocs under her wing...er paw... whatever. I can't see Cragger going full out Lloyd style, though. However, when a Russian (?) concept video popped up on the action theme forum for Chima, it featured a golden armored Laval, as well as caped Crooler.This same video was enforcing the fact that the series will be continuing through 2015... I don't want to get super excited on new villains yet, simply because I don't want to get disappointed (I like that barbarian animal tribe idea).

Also it appears you forgot about the production window. It would be foolish on Lego's part to advertise a new villain(s) nearly six months before their sets are released. If these villains were to be revealed, the Summer sets would have to include these villains. That's the reason why we didn't get the Ninjago Pirates as part of the 2013 wave as they were revealed in mid-July, and spotlighted in only one episode (I'm disappointed about that, as they would have been a nice addition to the series).

I'm also guessing that the Bears and Rhinos will be the advertising schtick for 2014 (or at least the start of the year). Something like the most brutish tribes are finally choosing sides and facing off sort of thing. Just an assumption, of course (we'll know in August what is officially planned).

[Garmadon]

I'm sorry for the double post, but do you have a source that you can link here that says that the voices of LaGravis and Crominus are, indeed, done by the same voice actor? I'm asking this because Crominus' voice sounds different towards the end of the first episode, which, in this case, is the only couple of times when his voice sounds a lot like LaGravis' voice.

Sure, I got it from Wikipedea. Not necesarily the most reliable source, but you can trust it most of the time.

[Good Cragger Fan]

I thank you for this information, "Garmadon", but now I have to edit a few of my posts that mention the name of the voice actor of Crominus and LaGravis.

"Penkid11", what do you mean by, "Crooler would then abandon her brother for the 'good tribes' and later take the Crocs under her wing..er paw.. whatever."? Are you saying that Crooler will become a "good" character and join the Lions, Eagles and Gorillas, or are you saying that Cragger will become a "good" character and join the Lions, Eagles and Gorillas (I'm confused here!)? (I strongly believe that the latter option will be much, much more likely to happen there (which is what I strongly prefer here anyway), rather than the former option!) However, I thank you for information in regarding the Russian concept video that showed up in the Action Themes forum for Legends of Chima on Eurobricks here, especially the fact that Crooler shows up there in a cape!

Edited March 19, 2013 by Good Cragger Fan

[CM4Sci]

A member PM'd me and told me that they've already seen up to episode 4. They live in Singapore. Apparently, the Crocs and Beavers have some sort of deal.

EDIT: Ah, yes. Click here, go to 3/21/13 > 4:00 PM - 7:00 PM > Okto, you'll see LEGO LEGENDS OF CHIMA, click it, and it says Episode 4.

-Sci

Edited March 19, 2013 by CM4S

[PenPlays]

The latter, GCF. Pardon my confusing-ness.

@CM4S

Interesting. I'm not completely surprised though, considering the same thing happened with Ninjago. It's nice to know that the Beavers weren't exclusive to the 4D movie, though.

Edited March 19, 2013 by Penkid11

[Good Cragger Fan]

A member PM'd me and told me that they've already seen up to episode 4. They live in Singapore. Apparently, the Crocs and Beavers have some sort of deal.

EDIT: Ah, yes. Click here, go to 3/21/13 > 4:00 PM - 7:00 PM > Okto, you'll see LEGO LEGENDS OF CHIMA, click it, and it says Episode 4.

-Sci

I checked on that website, and apparently on March 28, 2013 at 6:30 p.m., the Legends of Chima TV series is not airing then (and is being replaced by another show), nor at any other time during that week! Nevertheless, I thank you for this information, "CM4S"! It will be interesting to see how the Crocodiles and Beavers make a deal there -- but are Cragger, Crominus and/or Crunket involved in the deal-making process, or are they excluded from it; and, if they are involved in the deal-making process with the Beavers, are the other Crocodiles excluded from it, especially Crooler, and even Crug and Crawley?

The latter, GCF. Pardon my confusing-ness.

@CM4S

Interesting. I'm not completely surprised though, considering the same thing happened with Ninjago. It's nice to know that the Beavers weren't exclusive to the 4D movie, though.

Oh, I thought (and hope) that it would be the latter choice, since there is no way that Crooler would ever become a good character (she hates the Lions and hipnotised Cragger to distroy them for her, after all!), although it sounded confusing there, so I thank you for the clarification, "Penkid11"! I had seen some Season 1 Ninjago: Masters of Spinjitzu episodes on YouTube that had the Okto name mentioned there in advertisments, as well as right on the video in one of the corners when the cartoon was actually playing then. Therefore, the same thing could happen with the Legends of Chima TV series. However, I wonder if "Episode 4", that will be airing this Thursday on Okto in Singapore, of the TV series is going to be aired on March 27, 2013 on Cartoon Network in the US as part of the "pilot season", or is it actually part of "Season 1" of the TV series and therefore won't be airing until the summer; so can anyone find out about this?

Edited March 20, 2013 by Good Cragger Fan

[Good Cragger Fan]

I'm sorry for the double post -- but who here on Eurobricks thinks that Cragger will turn good sometime in the next few episodes of the TV series, and also, who thinks that Crominus and Crunket will escape the clasped cave and fight against their evil daughter, Crooler, sometime in the next few episodes?

[Speedza-Demon]

I'm sorry for the double post -- but who here on Eurobricks thinks that Cragger will turn good sometime in the next few episodes of the TV series, and also, who thinks that Crominus and Crunket will escape the clasped cave and fight against their evil daughter, Crooler, sometime in the next few episodes?

I highly doubt it. Ninjago didn't turn Garmadon good until the second season, resolving those two major plot points so early would really defeat the purpose of the entire show. I'd say we will have to wait atleast more than 10 episodes, especially the latter.

Edited March 24, 2013 by Speedza-Demon

[CM4Sci]

I saw a new commercial for the event today. Only new scenes included Laval jumping on the Croc boat and something else I forget.

-Sci