Shadows Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Lynch the confirmed scum. We did. The one who I named to Oscar after using my investigations to open communication with people who ended up being able to help us. Keep up, please.
Piratedave84 Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Again. The scum result was on Matilda, who was kindly taken out by the day killer. If we had a scum result on Shadell, we would not be having this conversation, we'd have a lynch already. We did. The one who I named to Oscar after using my investigations to open communication with people who ended up being able to help us. Keep up, please. I know .... I read back after hitting "post" and realized that! (it was left over from a post I intended to make last night) I can't edit my posts and now fear using asterisks ... apologies
Scubacarrot Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Waiting with posting a pre-written thing? No that ain't suspicious at all!
PsyKater Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 I know .... I read back after hitting "post" and realized that! (it was left over from a post I intended to make last night) I can't edit my posts and now fear using asterisks ... apologies Say what?
Dannylonglegs Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Hm, there's a piece of the puzzle I feel is missing here. I'm not sure how important it is right now, but we know that Jimmy was blocked last night, and Shadell was attempted jailkept. We also know who was jailkept on the first night, but do we know who this other mysterious blocker who blocked Jimmy last night blocked on night 1? Why did nobody come forward with that information when someone was on the lynching block (hurr...) for having been blocked when there was no kill? Well, I think that Jimmy was blocked by a scum blocker. It'd make no sense for us to have as many blocks as that would give us. I think it's more likely that Oscar or Shadell was targetted by the scum kill. Both seem like priority targets (if Shadell's not scum) and both seem to have some form of protection. As for Oscar being the godfather, I kind of doubt that, as he lead the lynch on Walter yesterday... but not only lead it. He started it too. I think he'd have to be quite the meatshielder to use Walter that early. I don't know if I made this argument before, but the more I think about it, the more Shadell's action makes sense. The Jailkeeper was informed that his block didn't work, right? It'd be overpowered for that to work on a Godfather (and by killing Walter, their previous killer (assumedly) we know that it's not the Godfather that kills), and what would his action even be? Most of the Godfathers I've seen either don't have actions, or have ones that would be blocked (kill, watch) so that doesn't make sense. I'm pretty sure at this point that he's not the Godfather. So why would he be immune to blocks, which he's been proven to be? Obviously he has a really important role that we'd be somewhat defenseless without. It's possible that the Cult-Leader is immune to kills as well. But, I doubt the Cult leader would be immune to blocks, as that would give an unfair advantage to their side, which also benefits from being all but completely unknown. In that respect, I doubt our Day killer is on their side, as a kill and a conversion is also over-powered. The scum never have both, so neither should the Cult.
Piratedave84 Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Waiting with posting a pre-written thing? No that ain't suspicious at all! Not waiting, if you need to know; I had written a post yesterday in window "A" then I updated window "B", Matilda was already dead. My post was therefore invalid and I deleted it or at least I thought. This morning, I sat at my computer and refresh Window "A" to write my post and the sentence was still there. I am totally guilty of using 2 windows at the same time and of not having re-read what I wrote. Say what? Are you for real? This is not rocket science: 1) I cannot edit posts; God sais so, its in the rules, look it up 2) I fear using asterisks; earlier today Oscar aluded to the fact that using asterisks to quote a word is commonly used in writeboards which are themselves often used by scum, hence asterisks are bad. Aye!
Cecilie Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Are you for real? This is not rocket science: 1) I cannot edit posts; God sais so, its in the rules, look it up 2) I fear using asterisks; earlier today Oscar aluded to the fact that using asterisks to quote a word is commonly used in writeboards which are themselves often used by scum, hence asterisks are bad. Aye! No, it's not rocket science, so why is it seeming so difficult for you? 1) You can edit your post before you actually post it. So if it's left over from a post you didn't post yesterday, you could have edited it out BEFORE posting it. Duh... 2) Asterisks are used in writeboards to bold text, what does that have to do with quoting a word?
PsyKater Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Are you serious? I highlighted what I was surprised about. But hey. You have a super-duper explanation for prewriting your statements in your scumboard another window. Not. And I hope you were kidding about the *asterisks* as well. Otherwise I don't get what you wanted to say.
Scubacarrot Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Are you serious? I highlighted what I was surprised about. But hey. You have a super-duper explanation for prewriting your statements in your scumboard another window. Not. And I hope you were kidding about the *asterisks* as well. Otherwise I don't get what you wanted to say. I love how you are trying to divert my attention from you to Dave.
Piratedave84 Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 No, it's not rocket science, so why is it seeming so difficult for you? 1) You can edit your post before you actually post it. So if it's left over from a post you didn't post yesterday, you could have edited it out BEFORE posting it. Duh... 2) Asterisks are used in writeboards to bold text, what does that have to do with quoting a word? 1) I said I did not read back before posting, that I am guilty of; I did not know it was there in the first place. 2) I did not know that, I thought it was to emphasize, I only used boards once in another dream. My apologies if I am not a writeboard guru! Are you serious? I highlighted what I was surprised about. But hey. You have a super-duper explanation for prewriting your statements in your scumboard another window. Not. And I hope you were kidding about the *asterisks* as well. Otherwise I don't get what you wanted to say. This: 2) Asterisks are used in writeboards to bold text, what does that have to do with quoting a word? I find it funny and quite disconcerting that both yesterday and today I am being chopped to pieces for benign things when we clearly have bigger fishes to fry! I understand why Katie would want to divert attention from her after being under scrutiny for some time, but Cece I don't get. I love how you are trying to divert my attention from you to Dave. As I have just pointed out!
Cecilie Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 I find it funny and quite disconcerting that both yesterday and today I am being chopped to pieces for benign things when we clearly have bigger fishes to fry! I understand why Katie would want to divert attention from her after being under scrutiny for some time, but Cece I don't get. I'm not trying to chop anything to pieces, but you are making senseless posts, and not paying attention. That makes people focus on you. Me included.
Hinckley Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 As I've been napping I see three pages of new posts have popped up. I'm very busy with hedgheog business this morning so I'll go back over these post more thoroughly later. Let me ask one thing: Do you guys really think I need to be investigated again? We've received Town results from Fozzie and Bunsen. Not neutral, as a cult member should show up, but Town. Why would anyone think that the Cult would come up as Town in investigation. Shadell herself told me in private that the cult members would come up Town when lynched or killed, at least that's what she thinks. Why wouldn't they come up as Cult, Shadell?
def Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Hmmm. I have serious concerns with Dave's reactions here too. Both in thread and in private, he's exhibited traits that have been scum to me in my previous experience. I would be fine lynching him to test it, but if there are better, results based targets, I'm up to switching to them. I'll be out of town for much of the remainder of the day, and will have to catch up on things before the day ends.
Scubacarrot Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Why would anyone think that the Cult would come up as Town in investigation. Shadell herself told me in private that the cult members would come up Town when lynched or killed, at least that's what she thinks. Why wouldn't they come up as Cult, Shadell? I see no way how that is possible.
Shadows Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Why would anyone think that the Cult would come up as Town in investigation. Shadell herself told me in private that the cult members would come up Town when lynched or killed, at least that's what she thinks. Why wouldn't they come up as Cult, Shadell? Seems like everything has to be repeated today, now you? I did not say that cultists would come up as town if lynched or killed, I said they would come up town in investigations. Duh. And so I don't have to then answer the next obvious question, yet again, if cultists came up as cultists in normal investigations, why would I have to look for them and have an investigation specifically to do so? It's so simple, it makes me a little worried that you even have to ask it. The better question at this point is even simpler. If you're not the cult leader, what harm will it do? Everyone will be watching for the results and you're bulletproof from any attack, just like I am. You literally have nothing to lose here. Or do you? And let's face it, if you're scum, this won't even expose you, sadly. I don't actually think you are, but why don't we ask the hider to hide behind you and prove that one as well? They can hide behind me next, if you still have doubts. Fair enough? Does someone have a better idea that doesn't involve destroying a role that the town really needs?
Hinckley Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Sorry I was typing too fast. You said they'd come up as Neutral. So, if they do, and you think I'm the cult leader, why did Bunsen, just today, get a Town reading on me? You said in private that they'd come up neutral when lynched or killed. Why would they come up Town in investigations? Just so you would be the only way we could find Cultists. Shadell, you're either Scum running a crazy gambit, which you love to do, or you're the Cult Leader yourself. Focusing on me is tiring. So, we're going to let a potential cult leader live overnight so he can convert again? Maybe convert me so he can say he told you all so? Please don't fall for this people. It's full of holes...
Dannylonglegs Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 As I've been napping I see three pages of new posts have popped up. I'm very busy with hedgheog business this morning so I'll go back over these post more thoroughly later. Let me ask one thing: Do you guys really think I need to be investigated again? We've received Town results from Fozzie and Bunsen. Not neutral, as a cult member should show up, but Town. Why would anyone think that the Cult would come up as Town in investigation. Shadell herself told me in private that the cult members would come up Town when lynched or killed, at least that's what she thinks. Why wouldn't they come up as Cult, Shadell? I don't have much time to respond, but basically, it can't hurt. If you're not the cult leader then he won't get a result back saying "Cult." You're more efficient when you're cleared of everything but Godfather (on the basis that we can't know for sure--I strongly doubt it) anyways. That said, whatever the results, we should get Shadell investigated too. You know, so that we're all peachy keen adorable farm animals. Oh, wait, there are people here. Huh.
Hinckley Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 The better question at this point is even simpler. If you're not the cult leader, what harm will it do? Everyone will be watching for the results and you're bulletproof from any attack, just like I am. I'm not bulletproof from being converted! Why are you so keen on staying alive one more night, so you can convert the Town leader into the cult? I don't believe what you're telling us. I don't have much time to respond, but basically, it can't hurt. If you're not the cult leader then he won't get a result back saying "Cult." You're more efficient when you're cleared of everything but Godfather (on the basis that we can't know for sure--I strongly doubt it) anyways. That said, whatever the results, we should get Shadell investigated too. You know, so that we're all peachy keen adorable farm animals. Oh, wait, there are people here. Huh. He won't get a result of Cult, we all know that because two people have already gotten the result of "Town". You're taking his word that Town investigators would get Town results if they investigate a Cult member. I find that very hard to believe? Why would God give us only one way to find the Cult? Do we have a night investigator? Our Day Investigator investigated me today. How will we investigate Shadell tonight?
Dannylonglegs Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Sorry I was typing too fast. You said they'd come up as Neutral. So, if they do, and you think I'm the cult leader, why did Bunsen, just today, get a Town reading on me? You said in private that they'd come up neutral when lynched or killed. Why would they come up Town in investigations? Just so you would be the only way we could find Cultists. Shadell, you're either Scum running a crazy gambit, which you love to do, or you're the Cult Leader yourself. Focusing on me is tiring. So, we're going to let a potential cult leader live overnight so he can convert again? Maybe convert me so he can say he told you all so? Please don't fall for this people. It's full of holes... Why would a cult leader be immune to block? That's not fair. Why would the Cult Leader out himself so that the actual Psych can fix him now? That doesn't make sense.
Shadows Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 So, we're going to let a potential cult leader live overnight so he can convert again? Maybe convert me so he can say he told you all so? Mmmm, paranoia. Did you know that ever person here is a potential cult leader until proven otherwise? But wait, you don't even believe in the cult, as you've said before. Why the fear now? My advice, focus on the entire day instead of being so transparently stuck on me, the person who is the only reason the vig finally got a proper target. If it wasn't for my investigation and behind the scenes work to discover the truth, the vig would probably be 0 for 3, something you've defended in previous days. Now I'm offering a logical way to proceed without the town losing a valuable role, and you're looking desperate. Convert you to what? Again, you don't believe in the cult, or so you say, and in your imaginary world, if I could convert you, you'd suddenly become the cult leader, which is the only thing I'm hoping to disprove? You've lost it. Very telling.
Scubacarrot Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 There is no cult. Everyone repeat after me: I am calm, there is no cult. Shadell, really, there is no cult. Come on.
Dannylonglegs Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 He won't get a result of Cult, we all know that because two people have already gotten the result of "Town". You're taking his word that Town investigators would get Town results if they investigate a Cult member. I find that very hard to believe? Why would God give us only one way to find the Cult? Do we have a night investigator? Our Day Investigator investigated me today. How will we investigate Shadell tonight? I'm not running under that assumption, but the mere idea that it could be true in this situation may warrant investigation. I believe you're Town. I would be surprised if our investigations show Town instead of Cult, but I don't think you need to be as worried as you are right now. It would be completely unreasonable for the Cult Leader to be unblockable, and I'd be quite irate in heaven if that were the case, and you needn't fear he's trying to kill you either due to your vest, and if you want extra safety, enlist the protection of the Jail-keeper or the Jack of all Trades.
Shadows Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 the Town leader" Vanity, thy name is Jesus Oscar. He won't get a result of Cult, we all know that because two people have already gotten the result of "Town". You're taking his word that Town investigators would get Town results if they investigate a Cult member. I find that very hard to believe? Do we have a night investigator? Our Day Investigator investigated me today. How will we investigate Shadell tonight? Didn't you just say you've been investigated more than once by different people, (one of which is the day investigator that my work put you in contact with, by the way, the one who didn't think it was safe to contact "the town leader" but talked to me, leading to a successful day kill)? You don't know another way? Why would god not give us a way to investigate Shadell but multiple ways to prove you? I find that very hard to believe.
Piratedave84 Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Hmmm. I have serious concerns with Dave's reactions here too. Both in thread and in private, he's exhibited traits that have been scum to me in my previous experience. I would be fine lynching him to test it, but if there are better, results based targets, I'm up to switching to them. I'll be out of town for much of the remainder of the day, and will have to catch up on things before the day ends. please elaborate; In private I asked you about your beef with Daisy which you told me ( and here in thread) was because he was a dick, you also said you would like to see what your result on Daisy meant and that lynching her would be a good way to find out. I also asked what your thoughts were on Oscar; you said I could maybe ue my Banana on him as you, him and Shadell were likely targets for a night kill on night 2. (I used it on Oscar) We also discussed his take on Oscar being town, which you seem to think is legit and on someone looking for their borther and what it could mean. I fail to see where I went scummy here. In public I already explained why I was so rash yesterday; as for today, I fail to see what makes me scummy to your eyes seeing I explained everything I did/said.
Dannylonglegs Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 There is no cult. Everyone repeat after me: I am calm, there is no cult. Shadell, really, there is no cult. Come on. I am calm, but Shadell's unblockable. I am calm, but Shadell's unblockable.
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