dviddy Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 I still think these are mostly prototypes. Considering how similar they look to the ones from that video with the super prototype minifigs, I think that the final sets will look a bit different from these. You know, as much as can be seen in these three-quarters of an inch tall photos. Quote
Aanchir Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 So if you think Breez looks like a female, then you must also think every other hero looks female. The literally have the same body form, so I don't see how Breez looks female... Breez may not look decidedly female (and that's probably deliberate), but she at least looks more gender-ambiguous than the other heroes in most forms. Her helmet in her original, Breakout, and Brain Attack incarnations helps considerably, with its feminine-looking eyes and overall shape, and in her Breakout form she has some nice considerations such as the use of a 1.0 foot piece to give her back a little more curvature than, say, Rocka, who uses a 2.0 foot piece in the same place. My problem with Eris isn't that she isn't feminine enough (the main problem in that respect, IMO, is her head, which can't be seen very clearly in this pic), but some parts of her design don't seem like they'd work whether she's male OR female-- chiefly her long upper limbs and short lower limbs, which confuse me a great deal. Quote
DraikNova Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 She looks a little sleeker. That and her equally-sleek head design helps too. Quote
Shakar Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 (edited) Oh lookie: http://www.flickr.co...157632677753378 http://www.flickr.co...157632677753378 http://www.flickr.co...157632677753378 http://www.flickr.co...157632677753378 http://www.flickr.co...157632677753378 http://www.flickr.co...157632677753378 http://www.flickr.co...157632677753378 I must say, Eris is the only really bad one, and even she has that awesome tr. blue axe and a few other tr. blue pieces. The others actually look good, and have great pieces. Razar looks cooler than most HF villains this year. There, I said it. Edited February 4, 2013 by Shakar Quote
BlueberryWaffles Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 Laval looks good but the rest look quite rushed. Quote
Aethersprite Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 Actually, Eris looks a lot better here. While her head is horrible as Eris' head as it doesn't look feminine at all, it's a good looking head nonetheless. Regardless, if these are final, I know I'll be getting them all. Quote
DOTM Shockwave Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 When will I learn not to jugde things base on a tiny image They all look nicer than what the small image made them look, now I'm not sure if I want to buy them to build them or buy them for their parts. Quote
Bfahome Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 I like these. They all look pretty decent, and they all have great parts. The birds, especially, have some nice-looking wing designs. Quote
Dorek Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 Lol, immense backtracking. Love it. I'm going to assume that they're relatively finalized. Some things I liked from the prototypes better, but this is still great. Quote
Bfahome Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 (edited) Lol, immense backtracking. Love it. Those preliminary pictures clearly showed that the sets' pieces were made of giant blurry squares, so it's understandable that the finalized versions are getting more praise. (I do not understand why ZOOM IN ENHANCE has become a normal tactic for divining the quality of future sets.) Edited February 4, 2013 by Bfahome Quote
Aanchir Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 Actually, Eris looks a lot better here. While her head is horrible as Eris' head as it doesn't look feminine at all, it's a good looking head nonetheless. Regardless, if these are final, I know I'll be getting them all. I wouldn't say Eris's head is bad. It doesn't look feminine, but it doesn't look masculine either. It just looks like a slightly cartoony eagle. All the sets and their weapons look pretty great in these pics. Not totally original like the prelim Laval we saw, but not all of those "original" builds really worked too well for him, so I can't say I really miss them. The heads look good, the weapons look good, the parts selection looks good... altogether, not a bad lineup. Quote
krystalKING Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 WTF IS THAT BIRD ON THE LEFT. seriously Lego, thats the best you can do? My Eris was better, and mine was mostly recolors. You know what, I made a mistake, sitting neglected on the shelves is an understatement. Quote
Bfahome Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 WTF IS THAT BIRD ON THE LEFT. seriously Lego, thats the best you can do? My Eris was better, and mine was mostly recolors. You know what, I made a mistake, sitting neglected on the shelves is an understatement. I don't know what sets you're looking at, but what I'm seeing is a pretty good-looking constraction set. Quote
Aethersprite Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 From these pictures plus the earlier ones we saw, I'm pretty sure at least Laval, Cragger and Worriz have HF shells as back armour, hopefully the other 3 are the same, though I doubt so for Eris and Razar. Aanchir, about the heads - not big on these simplified versions as compared to the earlier ones we saw, but I agree that they look good nonetheless. Quote
Aanchir Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 WTF IS THAT BIRD ON THE LEFT. seriously Lego, thats the best you can do? My Eris was better, and mine was mostly recolors. You know what, I made a mistake, sitting neglected on the shelves is an understatement. I don't know what you mean by "yours is better"... if you shared yours, I missed it, but I'd love to see your attempt. I think the Eris set is pretty decent, though I'm sure there are areas where it could be improved if you're not building to meet a price point. Quote
Vinyl Scratch Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 I would like to consider that Eris set as another eagle, really. But otherwise it doesn't look that bad. Personally Razar is the best, followed by Worriz and Gorzan. Quote
Aethersprite Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 Noticed that Worriz, like Laval, uses a 2.0 torso shell for back armour, but it's placed so high up his back until it looks like it's covering the back of his head, that I'm afraid it's connected like Core Hunter's back armour, rather than using the new Stormer XL piece. Razar's my favourite, followed by Worriz and Cragger. Cragger's neck is way too long, they should've stuck with the shorter version in the first image we saw of him. Easy fix though. Quote
krystalKING Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 I don't know what you mean by "yours is better"... if you shared yours, I missed it, but I'd love to see your attempt. I think the Eris set is pretty decent, though I'm sure there are areas where it could be improved if you're not building to meet a price point. Thats the problem, I don't know how to post LDD pictures, but the basic design is a hero factory-ish figure using a yellow head and white Eagle helmet. The rest is pretty simple. Quote
The Mugbearer Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 Eriss look bad because she looks non-feminine. But I like her head and overall build. Haters gonna hate. =P Also Razar is good, but Kragger still more ugly than others. Quote
Shakar Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 My problem with Eris isn't that she doesn't look feminine: that can be improved with some mods like with Breakout Breez (at least Eris uses the narrow torso!). Even if the set was called Equila, I'd still call it bad, because that head looks nowhere as sleek as the Eagle helmet. Look at Razar: his head is NEARLY IDENTICAL to the minifig's. Next time make Eglor, ok Lego? My life needs dark blue cladding. I'm surprised at how good the wings look. I was excepting some one piece stuff, or some half finished design: not because I think low of the designers, but due to the ever-present part count limit. But they look good, big, and non skeletal. Now that I finished my rant about birds and wings, my favourite part of these sets are the weapons (and their transparent goodness!). As I wrote in an earlier post, I really like Eris’s axe, but there’s also Gorzan with the BP mace halves in TWO new colours, Worriz with a tr. red* Rocka sword, and Razar reuses Eris’s axe halves as scythe-like weapons (clever!). *I know it looks like dark red, but Rocka’s sword is made of that translucent plastic, so I think it is supposed to be transparent red (which is surprisingly dark on its own). Same goes for Cragger’s blades. And if you look closely, the blades look slightly lighter than Worriz’s dark red shells. Why should energy-powered weapons be solid coloured, anyway? Quote
Aanchir Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 Thats the problem, I don't know how to post LDD pictures, but the basic design is a hero factory-ish figure using a yellow head and white Eagle helmet. The rest is pretty simple. Here's a guide to taking good-quality screenshots, here's a tutorial for hosting images on Brickshelf, and here's a topic on how to deeplink images you host on Brickshelf. I don't know what stage of the process you're having trouble with, but I believe at least one of those three tutorials will have the info you need. In the future if you are having trouble, you can check the Eurobricks Index of Tutorials or the LDD and Digital Tools Section Index-- and if the problem you're having doesn't seem to be answered by any of the topics in either index, don't be afraid to create a topic asking for help, because there are definitely lots of people here on Eurobricks who are happy to share their knowledge. Anyway, one thing I love about these models is how finished they look. The Ultrabuild Super Heroes sets already went above and beyond the average Hero Factory set in providing back armor and unique builds in many cases, but still some like Batman and the Joker took a lot of heat for details that looked spindly or irregular. Additionally, these Chima models typically have a very organic feel, using Hero Factory parts without a lot of mechanical-looking details. Overall, these sets show a lot of very thoughtful design IMO, and I hope we see either more sets in this series or new themes with some of the same design sensibilities in the years to come! Quote
MakutaDreadscythe Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 Worriz and Razar look pretty sweet, what with the Metru Red and the Purple. Quote
Cirkit Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 Glad to see the new images of these 'Chima' characters. I don't get why people are getting so cross about Eris. As a humanoid-bird warrior I think she looks alright. Color scheme (White, trans blue, and gold) is great in my book, love her axe and the chest decal. The head may not look very, erm, feminine, but it looks like a bird's head, and that's what matters to me. Wings are simple but I like 'em. I'm sad to see Gorzan lost his banana ammo belt.. what a shame. Still looks pretty cool, however- I really like the trans top to the spiked club-thing he's holding. I almost hope the chest decals are stickers- imagine what one could do with a large, gold Stormer XL chest piece like that.. Lots of black-part goodness in that set too. Laval looks exactly the same as before, but I don't mind that a bit. I see here he's got two trans blue blades instead of only one. I quite like the fur parts- wonder what color that is? Doesn't look like classic brown in that light.. The white claws are nice too. Cragger is a personal favorite of mine. That fierce-looking Crocodile head, those new, jagged blades forming a big staff for him to carry around(chain's a nice touch), and those delicious Olive-Green parts.. what's not to love? I assume the wolf-like guy is Worriz? Head looks way similar to the Werewolf minifig we've seen before.. bit square in shape if you get my meaning. The head and fur appear to be in 'Metru bley', that's a plus. It's always nice to see more 'Metru/Dark/Earth Red', especially in cladding, which we've only seen in Pyrox so far. The red blade is great, I can imagine people making all sorts of 'dark Chima warriors' already, or using that blade somehow some more in Hero Factory. To me, this guy is alright. Lastly, is Razar. To me, he looks like a giant, evil, purple lilac-and-black crow, and I'm okay with that, mostly because of the lilac parts. Head's pretty sleek, but looks mean. Not sure what the function of his blades are, but I like 'em. The rest is basically a rehash of Eris, unless there's something I'm missing? Pretty good looking collection of mega-sized minifigs There are some I'd definitely consider picking up, right after I find myself an XT4 and one of the new Breez's. Quote
DraikNova Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 Ugh. Laval's leg design, while bad, would still have looked better than the basic design. Apart from that a relatively decent set. Cragger, well... I would have preferred his old weapon design. He seems to use an extra dark green cladding piece on his back. I might decide to use all these different shades of green in one MOC. The addition of olive to the selection is a good one. Don't even get me started on Gorzan. His completely and utterly horrible gold Hulk chestplate, that ridiculous weapon (the only value is as parts and mace halves have very little MOCcing value anyway), those stubby legs and the removal of the extra armor and banana ammo belt which could have made it a GREAT set or, with the other changes I mentioned, have at the very least made it a decent parts pack. Then there's Eris. Her very male head isn't even so much of a complaint. Compared to her other problems, that is. Her wings, which I don't even like in her minifigure, look horribly skeletal and un-winglike made with those pieces. Then there's her axe. It looks very useless bent at that angle. The only reason I could imagine why someone would want to buy the set would be for the trans-blue. Now, Razar. Limiting it to purple and black gives him a much better colorscheme than most of the others. Purple is always a welcome color, anyway. His head mold looks better than the others too, evoking the feel of the original very well. The wings just work here. And I feel that Eris' axe parts seems to have been more designed for Razar's use. They work very well here. Last, Worriz. Slightly off head, less than, say, Eris or Laval. Nice silver fur add-on pieces and nice dark red armor. The simple weapon design, which I think was the original plan for Cragger's weapons works perfectly here. The saw-shield and paw hands work well as well. Sorry for the rant, but I'm very disappointed. Quote
ZORK64 Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 Finally a few better pictures. Since everybody else starts this list with Eris, I'll do so as well. I think the problem with Eris' head is simply the neck. The neck of her minifig isn't covered with feathers, and her beak is not as dominant as it seems to be on the Ultrabuild. But even if it doesn't look really like Eris, it's still a cool head design. Also, I like axes, blue, white and wings, so yeah, Eris is an Insta-Buy (so she won't sit neglected on the shelves - or if she should do so, I'll buy a whole bunch of these once they go on sales). Gorzan looks alright, and I agree it's a shame his banana belt was omitted. The pic there is too dark to judge him properly. But odds are still fair that I'll get him just to try pulling of an Optimus Primal MOC. Laval looks cool, and I don't mind the HF feet all that much (although his legs look very thin compared to his arms). Cragger looks also good. I consider him an almost sure buy just for the colours and the weapons. Worriz looks also cool. Is it possible that his armour is copper? Even if not, I like his design, altough it's similiar to Laval's. And Razar is basically a black and evil version of Eris. He looks interesting, but I'm not sooo excited about him. But odds are still good that I might end up owning him. In short, I'm curious about the final sets. Quote
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