Marvel Cinematic Universe

[samurai-turtle]

I was talking about screen time, not lines in AoU.

Sorry, I was thinking of Captain America for some reason. (Must of miss the part about AoU.)

[Starrocks923]

I don't know the exact screen time, but I did read something funny that Spider-Man had more lines in Civil War than Supes had in Bats Vs Supes. That's amazing.

In fairness, Spider-Man likes to talk and quip, and he's not used to seeing bionic arms.

[HawkLord]

This version isn't used to it, but Raimi's Spider-Man is! Hopefully this version will see them in larger quantity soon.

[Starrocks923]

This version isn't used to it, but Raimi's Spider-Man is! Hopefully this version will see them in larger quantity soon.

My thoughts exactly. This Spiderman still has plenty of stories to tell since he's so young. I personally think he'd be the best Avengers cameo candidate for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. or even Luke Cage.

[CM4Sci]

I just spent the last month watching Daredevil and Jessica Jones. Bring on the next seasons! These shows were awesome, Kilgrave was one of my favorite characters, David Tennant did an amazing job. I don't watch Doctor Who but Kilgrave is all he is to me!

[Ceroknight]

I just spent the last month watching Daredevil and Jessica Jones. Bring on the next seasons! These shows were awesome, Kilgrave was one of my favorite characters, David Tennant did an amazing job. I don't watch Doctor Who but Kilgrave is all he is to me!

Watching the Doctor play Kilgrave was really weird but awesome. I'm sure watching Kilgrave play the Doctor would be even weirder and more awesome

[xboxtravis7992]

My thoughts exactly. This Spiderman still has plenty of stories to tell since he's so young. I personally think he'd be the best Avengers cameo candidate for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. or even Luke Cage.

Good point! I'd love to see an episode with Spedy in MAoS.

Anyway, does anyone else want to see Coulson back in the MCU films? I know they'd have to briefly explain how he is alive for those who don't watch MAoS, but I want to see Tony's face when Phil walks up to him for the first time since his death.

[Khscarymovie4]

Good point! I'd love to see an episode with Spedy in MAoS.

Anyway, does anyone else want to see Coulson back in the MCU films? I know they'd have to briefly explain how he is alive for those who don't watch MAoS, but I want to see Tony's face when Phil walks up to him for the first time since his death.

I personally hate the fact that marvel keeps bringing back characters from the dead, I like the fact that I can watch the MCU movies and still think that Coulson is dead.

[HawkLord]

I've not paid much attention to MAoS, so I don't consider Coulson to be alive. I don't know what the MCU canon is on the subject.

Generally characters that are dead should stay dead, particularly when the character's death is what prompted the Avengers into action.

[NXS7]

I've not paid much attention to MAoS, so I don't consider Coulson to be alive. I don't know what the MCU canon is on the subject.

Generally characters that are dead should stay dead, particularly when the character's death is what prompted the Avengers into action.

I agree, although as long as Coulson stays put on the show I'm fine, cos he was a fan favourite character, keeping him alive, just in a different area of the MCU is fine with me

[LEGODalekbuster523]

I agree, although as long as Coulson stays put on the show I'm fine, cos he was a fan favourite character, keeping him alive, just in a different area of the MCU is fine with me

I disagree with him staying entirely on the show. I think there's a lot of dramatic potential in him returning in an MCU movie and the Avengers finding out he is still alive.

[xboxtravis7992]

Yeah for those who have watched the Agents of Shield; having Coulson return to the films would be a great moment after watching the series. I once read a critic saying it's strange every event in the films affect Agents if Shield, yet Agents of Shield has yet to have a big effect on the movies (for example, no mention of the growing Inhuman population during the events of Civil War). Eventually the movies need to take something from Agents of Shield to make it meaningful; even if Coulson doesn't return to film someone like Agent May or Quake should have a film role.

Besides with all these rumors that Daredevil and friends will show up in future films, why not Agents of Shield? While I don't know for sure it does seems Agents of Shield has a larger viewing base due to being on a main TV channel and having a TV-14 rating. The TV-MA rating and Netflix distribution probably restricts a bit of Daredevil's following. So if rumors be true Daredevil is coming to the films, why can't Agents of Shield follow suit?

Edited May 13, 2016 by xboxtravis7992

[LEGODalekbuster523]

Yeah for those who have watched the Agents of Shield; having Coulson return to the films would be a great moment after watching the series. I once read a critic saying it's strange every event in the films affect Agents if Shiels, yet Agents of Shield has yet to have a big effect on the movies (for example, no mention of the growing Inhuman population during the events of Civil War). Eventually the movies need to take something from Agents of Shield to make it meaningful; even if Coulson doesn't return to film someone like Agent May or Quake should have a film role.

Quake would be great for Spider-Man: Homecoming. I could easily imagine Peter Parker and Daisy Johnson being friends.

[dr jones]

If Coulson was ever to come back, this is the best time. With the avengers having some...err... team problems, finding out the guy who died to bring them together is alive still, is some nice extra fuel on the fire.

[Starrocks923]

If Coulson was ever to come back, this is the best time. With the avengers having some...err... team problems, finding out the guy who died to bring them together is alive still, is some nice extra fuel on the fire.

See, the MCU heads don't exactly like having Coulson back to life. It makes Avengers continuity feel...off. So they basically ignore Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. as much as possible in the movies, even though the MCU TV shows are directly tied into the movies.

Infinity War might shake up this status, though. They're going to be more "trippy" movies that wouldn't mesh well with the grounded shows like Daredevil, but 68 characters is still a lot of roles to fill. I feel like Infinity War is going to throw in a lot of curveball characters no one saw coming...

[LEGODalekbuster523]

See, the MCU heads don't exactly like having Coulson back to life. It makes Avengers continuity feel...off. So they basically ignore Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. as much as possible in the movies, even though the MCU TV shows are directly tied into the movies.

Infinity War might shake up this status, though. They're going to be more "trippy" movies that wouldn't mesh well with the grounded shows like Daredevil, but 68 characters is still a lot of roles to fill. I feel like Infinity War is going to throw in a lot of curveball characters no one saw coming...

I think Infinity War would be the perfect time for Coulson to appear alongside Nick Fury. It would make for a touching scene regarding the Avengers finding out Coulson is alive.

[PicnicBasketSam]

Maybe Coulson could be a supporting character in something like Captain Marvel, so the audience knows that he's alive, but the Avengers don't meet him until Infinity War. Just a thought.

[rodiziorobs]

I dunno. Coulson has been out long enough now that it seems like putting him back in would just be...out of place. He had his part as the 'mascot' of SHIELD in the early movies, to represent a common thread across the MCU.

However, one of the biggest gripes about those early movies (Thor, IM2 in particular) is how they tried to shoehorn SHIELD in too much. A similar complaint was made about AoU when the helicarrier showed up at the end; it didn't fit nor make much sense since SHIELD is basically a non-entity now in the MCU (ignoring AoS, which I haven't watched since S1E6 or so).

Bringing back a character who is essentially a stand-in for the organization at large, when that organization no longer exists in the movie seems redundant and pointless. If they had worked him in in CW:WS or AoU, they could have pulled it off, but now it kind of seems like that ship has sailed.

[xboxtravis7992]

Actually the Helicarrier is the only small nod that Agents of Shield exists from the movies:

After Hydra destroyed the original SHIELD, Fury ordered Coulson to clandestinely rebuild the group. Season two reveals that Coulson's intel had discovered the location of Loki's staff which he secretly gave to Maria Hill who then gave the info to The Avengers thus leading to Age of Ultron. It's very strange that Maria Hill knows Coulson lives, yet is hiding it from Tony Stark and the others.

Furthermore it appears Coulson's "New SHIELD" group has more resources than one might think (Panama papers? LOL). Coulson ordered a group to hide a mothballed Helicarrier and repair it and ready it to be manned at short notice. Then when the final battle with Ultron happened at Sokovia, the Helicarrier was ready to be manned by Nick Fury and a SHIELD loyal crew.

Thus the MCU's acknowledgement of Agents of Shield is when the Avengers question where the Helicarrier came from and Nick replies, "I had some friends take care of it for me." Friends = Coulson and Crew.

So yeah now it's really strange Coulson has yet to return to the films as his actions are having (small) repercussions on the MCU.

Edited May 14, 2016 by xboxtravis7992

[LEGODalekbuster523]

I dunno. Coulson has been out long enough now that it seems like putting him back in would just be...out of place. He had his part as the 'mascot' of SHIELD in the early movies, to represent a common thread across the MCU.

However, one of the biggest gripes about those early movies (Thor, IM2 in particular) is how they tried to shoehorn SHIELD in too much. A similar complaint was made about AoU when the helicarrier showed up at the end; it didn't fit nor make much sense since SHIELD is basically a non-entity now in the MCU (ignoring AoS, which I haven't watched since S1E6 or so).

Bringing back a character who is essentially a stand-in for the organization at large, when that organization no longer exists in the movie seems redundant and pointless. If they had worked him in in CW:WS or AoU, they could have pulled it off, but now it kind of seems like that ship has sailed.

I don't think it would because to them SHIELD doesn't exist but those of us who watch Agents of SHIELD knows it does, it's just off the radar. That wouldn't take much explaining to the audience. You could explain it along with Coulson being alive in 3 or 4 lines.

[Bricky Dee Williams]

So, the reveal of the fourth CA: CW set has me thinking: Roxxon wasn't directly in the movie. The only recent, straight-forward connection to Roxxon I can think of in the MCU was in Daredevil (Season 2), and even that was kind of a minor thing. Is the inclusion of the Roxxon bit on the truck just fan-treatment, like the numerous goodies in the Airport Battle?

[Khscarymovie4]

I think The guy The Mandarin shot worked at Roxxon.

[NXS7]

I think The guy The Mandarin shot worked at Roxxon.

I think he was the head of Roxxon. He wasn't actually shot though, it was as unreal as Trevor Slattery himself

Edited May 14, 2016 by Quicksilver838

[Ultron]

So, the reveal of the fourth CA: CW set has me thinking: Roxxon wasn't directly in the movie. The only recent, straight-forward connection to Roxxon I can think of in the MCU was in Daredevil (Season 2), and even that was kind of a minor thing. Is the inclusion of the Roxxon bit on the truck just fan-treatment, like the numerous goodies in the Airport Battle?

The Ironman 3 final battle took place at a Roxxon facility if I'm not mistaken.

[xboxtravis7992]

There is a long list of Roxxon cameos in the MCU according to Wikipedia. I guess it's just very subtle.

Although the funniest Roxxon cameo for me was the Agents of Shield episode with the man who became a ghost because of a partical accelerator. That was a funny episode to watch because the location "Batesville, Utah" threw my family of at first, then we Googled it and as it turns out Batesville was a pioneer name for one if the areas in our valley now known as Erda. We then spent the rest of the episode commenting how Batesville on Agents of Shield looked more like the street from Desperate Housewives than it looked like the real life Erda ;D