Marvel Cinematic Universe

[The Legonater]

It was made pretty clear in Iron Man 3 that the Mandarin wasn't really considered a large enough threat for SHIELD and the Avengers to face, and Stark only got involved when it became personal. I also believe it was mentioned that the US wanted to look strong after the Chitauri attack, and its hard to do that when superheroes are helping out all the time.

[Faefrost]

Now does anyone know if "Conspiracy-Girl" is in the comics? I swear she looks familar, but I can't place her.

And when is Wasp coming?

There really aren't that many distinctive female characters associated with SHIELD in the comics. And most of those are already tied to Captain America or the Avengers.

Maria Hill - already seen in Avengers

Black Widow - Already seen, IM2, Avengers, Cap 2

Sharon Carter / Agent 13.- Will be seen in Cap 2

Contessa - Nick Furies GF of sorts. Has not been seen yet, but conspiracy Chicky is not her.

If she is a previously seen character from the comics, I would bet one of these; (still a long shot)

Jessica Drew / Spider Woman - probably the most likely. Well known character visually. Long history with shield.

Carmella Black / Thasanee Rappaccini / Scorpion - fairly obscure character. And the lack of green hair probably rules her out.

Jessica Jones - Brian Bendis's main character from Marvel's Alias comic. If hoodie boy is Luke Cage then this is a strong possibility.

I figure we will see the Wasp in 2015 when Ant Man hits theaters.

[Zilcho]

Question: in Iron Man 1, in the cave when Stark is first using his armour, the other scientist goes and shoots the terrorists to buy time while something loads on the computer, what was of the computer that needed to be done before stark could use the suit?

[LuxorV]

This is just speculation on my part, as I never went in depth about it, but I suppose it was some program to route the power from the arc reactor to the suit plus, possibly, a proto-AI of sorts (quite like a modern car's engine control unit, I think) to activate/control the servos and such helping Tony use the suit.

[Tanma]

I guess if SHIELD didn't realize it was superhumans it makes sense why they didn't get involved. I guess I don't see why neither Rhodey or Tony told SHIELD about Extremist, they had plenty of chances. Although they might have been worried SHIELD would have just continued the experiments.

I'll going to be honest, when you suggested Jessica Drew my first thought was, "But how can they have her without confirming Spider-Man is in the MCU?" Oh Ultimate Universe, how you confuse me. (please let one SM movie be ultimate clone saga)

Now this is a little off topic, but about two months ago I started a short story taking place in the MCU. It's pretty much finished now, so I was wondering if anyone would want me to post it. I would make a different topic for it of course, I just want to know if people will check it out, or if they know of a better place to put it.

[RaincloudDustbin]

I'd like to read that if you have the time to post it.

Edited May 17, 2013 by RaincloudDustbin

[Spider-Man]

Yeah I would like to take a look at it as well if you posted somewhere on here

[Tanma]

Okay then. Just to let you know it is kind of long for a short story, so it might not fit on one post if there are limits. I took some liberties on it, which I will clarify in a foreward.

[Faefrost]

Question: in Iron Man 1, in the cave when Stark is first using his armour, the other scientist goes and shoots the terrorists to buy time while something loads on the computer, what was of the computer that needed to be done before stark could use the suit?

it was uploading and starting the suits control software. Its bios or if you will proto jarvis.

[Spider-Man]

New trailer for the Avengers cartoon replacing EMH.

From what it shows and the trailer on Marvel's website, I think they are trying too hard to make it like the movies. Disappointing that this is taking out EMH, which I thought was a very good show.

Edited May 21, 2013 by Spider-Man

[Faefrost]

I'll going to be honest, when you suggested Jessica Drew my first thought was, "But how can they have her without confirming Spider-Man is in the MCU?" Oh Ultimate Universe, how you confuse me. (please let one SM movie be ultimate clone saga)

One of those bizarre little bits of Marvel History. The Jessica Drew Spider Woman is not only not attached to the Marvel Spider-Man license. She was actually created as a strange counter to that license when it was held by TV producers. In the 70's The Marvel Characters She Hulk, Spider Woman and Ms. Marvel were created to block the then in production Hulk and Spider-Man Live action TV shows from creating said characters on screen themselves, and then holding partial or full rights to them. (Ms. Marvel was more to block DC from exploiting or expanding the Shazzam Captain Marvel characters when they bought out those licenses.) So Spider Woman was held completely separate from Spider-Man in the Marvel universe for quite awhile. That's why the Shield backstory.

[Tanma]

Interesting to know the original version of Jessica Drew was meant as a counter to Spider-Man, kind of funny given her nature as his clone in Earth-1610.

New trailer for the Avengers cartoon replacing EMH.

From what it shows and the trailer on Marvel's website, I think they are trying too hard to make it like the movies. Disappointing that this is taking out EMH, which I thought was a very good show.

Not sure if this belongs here, but I also have a lot of issues with AA. Ignoring that it's Loeb (which as an Ultimate Universe fan, is hard to ignore), I just can't get excited for it. This is in part because I loved EMH: Wasp, and issues regarding the timeline. And because I love EMH.

As the hip kids say, check it. I have been hearing conflicting rumors that AA is in the same universe of USM and/or EMH. It is of course impossible for it to be both because Luke Cage and Iron Fist are adults in A: EMH and teens in USM. (Spider-Man is a teen in both so it isn't a time skip.) So let's assume AA is a continuation of A: EMH, and that they disbanded in between the two. This at least is possible, given Iron Man's claim in one trailer, if we ignore Falcon's age and personality. Which is really hard. (compare him in A: EMH to his line in the trailer. Just...uh) But if we do ignore it, this still creates what I call the Wasp continuum.

Basically, Wasp would never quit the Avengers. Honestly if it was between Hank and the Avengers, she would get pissed at Hank and stay an Avenger. And not just because she has done it before. So she would not leave the team. And if the team fell apart beyond her control, she would sign back up as soon as the team reformed.

This brings me to the escape of the continuum, that Wasp's death in AA is what caused the Avengers to disband. This could work, and it won't be the first time Loeb killed Wasp, but it would be fridging. Honestly I would rather her be dead than her characterization derailed, but as my favorite Avenger I still want her alive.

So since going into this my favorite Avenger in my favorite adaptation/version of the team is dead or her characterization derailed, if it is a sequel like tv tropes and rumors are saying, I am pretty bummed out. If it isn't a sequel I will judge it less harshly, but I still will be wishing for Wasp and the old show. (Please tv movie about season three?) Not to mention the blatant commercialism of using the movie avengers and Falcon, who will be in Cap 2.

Edited May 21, 2013 by Tanma

[Sam892]

So Singer just revealed that Quicksilver will be in DOFP. So looks like we will get two versions of him in the space of a year. Word is Marvel is very, very angry about this.

[Clone OPatra]

Avengers 2 isn't actually in production, though. While Whedon announced his intention to have the characters in A2, he can also not do that. Nothing is set in stone, and lots of ideas for characters are always bandied about in the pre-production stage of these films.

[Tanma]

Avengers 2 isn't actually in production, though. While Whedon announced his intention to have the characters in A2, he can also not do that. Nothing is set in stone, and lots of ideas for characters are always bandied about in the pre-production stage of these films.

True, it could still change. I believe it was mentioned that on the chance that they couldn't get Black Widow for the first Avengers movie, Whedon made a second script featuring Wasp and a second villain. So a lot can change depending.

[Spider-Man]

If Quicksilver is in DoFP, then I highly doubt we would see him in Avengers 2. I'm fairly certain Marvel doesn't want to make the, sometimes confusing, superhero universe even more so by having two adaptations of one character in a year. There is still plenty of time for Avengers to be written and rewritten, so I don't see this as a big deal, however it seems silly that they wouldn't run the idea by Marvel before just throwing him into their movie. It does make me wonder though what exactly the X-Men license includes considering the fact Marvel was going to use Quicksilver, and now DoFP is going to have him?

[The Brigante]

It does make me wonder though what exactly the X-Men license includes considering the fact Marvel was going to use Quicksilver, and now DoFP is going to have him?

IIRC, FOX can only call then Pietro and Wanda, and obviously can't refer to Avenger stuff. Marvel can only call them Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch and can't refer to their mutant origins.

Makes me wonder if somehow FOX and Marvel are trying to merge it all together. That, or FOX just want to do a take that to Marvel

[def]

It's apparently established that Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch are game for both universes, due to their history.

While Fox holds the film rights to the X-Men characters in perpetuity, Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige revealed in April 2012 that

the mutant children of Magneto would be available to both studios

, saying, "It's a little complicated, but if they [Fox] want to use them in the X-Men movie they could, [but] if we want to use them in 'The Avengers' movie, we could."

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=45667

It kind of makes sense.

Quicksilver has always been more on the mutant side, while the Scarlet Witch on the Avengers side. I like them both, so I'm just happy to see them becoming mainstream characters

Makes me wonder if somehow FOX and Marvel are trying to merge it all together. That, or FOX just want to do a take that to Marvel

I think movie box office receipts will have to drop a lot more before they work together on their established properties. For now, they are all doing pretty well without sharing properties.

[Spider-Man]

Has anybody else taken a look at the second wave of Marvel Legends Iron Man 3 action figures from Hasbro? They are all pretty reasonable with a couple Iron Man variants, then the film version of Iron Patriot and comic version, and then it gets interesting with the inclusion of Ultron! With the announcement of Ant-Man in 2015 I really hope that this is a little sneak peak Marvel has thrown our way I'm sure they could find a way to tie Ultron in with extremis seeing as the two had a lot of run ins throughout different comic series.

Edited May 29, 2013 by Spider-Man

[Tanma]

I hadn't heard about that, sounds interesting. I only really know Ultron from EMH, where I think he has a different origin than the comics, so it will be interesting to see what they go with. I for one would like to see Ultron in action a little before he goes evil, like with the Kang saga.

So I heard through word of mouth that phase three would not only include Ant-Man, but Hulk and Dr. Strange. Anyone else heard of that?

[Spider-Man]

Dr. Strange has been thrown around for a while and the guys at Marvel really want to add an element of magic to the MCU so I definitely think that we will see that movie, and with Ruffalo signed on to do some ridiculous number of movies/appearances (I want to say 8?) it wouldn't surprise me at all to see him get a solo movie at some point.

[RaincloudDustbin]

So wait, is The Incredible Hulk not a phase 1 movie? I haven' seen it but do know that Ruffalo wasn't involved.

[Sam892]

So wait, is The Incredible Hulk not a phase 1 movie? I haven' seen it but do know that Ruffalo wasn't involved.

Ye it is. Ed Norton didn't want to come back for The Avengers so they recast him. They also reference Incredible Hulk in the Avengers, Banner says something about last time he was in Harlem. Which is where the final Act is set in the Hulk film.

[Leo604]

(I want to say 8?)

I believe it's 6, which includes The Avengers so he'll probably have a role in Avengers 2 and then a solo movie after that. A Rulk confrontation would be great.

[Faefrost]

If Quicksilver is in DoFP, then I highly doubt we would see him in Avengers 2. I'm fairly certain Marvel doesn't want to make the, sometimes confusing, superhero universe even more so by having two adaptations of one character in a year. There is still plenty of time for Avengers to be written and rewritten, so I don't see this as a big deal, however it seems silly that they wouldn't run the idea by Marvel before just throwing him into their movie. It does make me wonder though what exactly the X-Men license includes considering the fact Marvel was going to use Quicksilver, and now DoFP is going to have him?

I think it may be more serious than that. If I recall correctly the Fox X men license includes all of the main mutants, but specifically excluded Quicksilver and The Scarlett Witch as they were considered part of the Avengers license. This is why while Toad was used for the Brotherhood in Bryan Singers first X Men movie, the twins were not. The fact that Marvel is just finding out about this now reasonably would wind them up. It could go either way. Marvel may flex lawyer muscles, which would probably see Quicksilver magically change into Northstar in DOFP. Or if it is a minor appearance, the scene simply gets cut.

Ye it is. Ed Norton didn't want to come back for The Avengers so they recast him. They also reference Incredible Hulk in the Avengers, Banner says something about last time he was in Harlem. Which is where the final Act is set in the Hulk film.

Robert Downey also appears at the very end of the Hulk film. It is technically the 2nd film in what is considered Phase 1.